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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Richard Bridge Date: 13 Jun 09 - 01:30 AM No jeddy. My point is this. Thinking folkies above have said that they respected MBSGeorge's singing before they knew of her loathsome politics, and that her politics cannot affect the impression they had had of her singing. I have given a real life example of a well-known man (a vile bully and wife-beater but not as far as I know a racist) who was widely respected for his skills (while alive) as a barrister. Since the facts have, since his death, emerged, I have ceased to hold the same respect for the very skills for which he was respected. That is the extent of the analogy.
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: jeddy Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:40 PM richard, thankyou, i assume he was into race purity then or something similar? i still don't understand the link between him and the bnp. is this something i should know or does it matterv if i don't ? anyway, i think it is entirely possible to be sucked in by the BNP as happened to that woman who after knowing what she had gotten herself into said "DON'T VOTE FOR ME"if this was the case with GEORGE then why not just admit it? so i am assuming tht because she hassn't she is still in there with the party line. how can she sing any sort of protest song with any integraty(?) it just wouldn't work would it? anyway i am off to read then sleep. i am sorryb if this has made no sense i will come back tommorrow to check. night night take care jade x |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Richard Bridge Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:10 PM Carman was until his fairly recent death possibly the best known English barrister. His cross-examination was much feared. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Nick Date: 12 Jun 09 - 09:23 PM From: Peter K (Fionn) - PM Little Hawk is no part of the problem here. The BNP are. Don't get sidetracked. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Lox Date: 12 Jun 09 - 07:19 PM Ringer, You seem to be suggesting that by having a problem with the BNP we are hypocrites. On what basis? Well, our reason for disliking Nazis is that we are horrified by the thought of Nazism returning to Europe. Ah right ... so how are we hypocrites? Well ... if you compare hitler to Mao and Stalin, you find that they were respponsible for huge numbers of deaths too. er .. ok ... still don't get it ... *sigh* Well if you disagree with the BNP then you are obviously left wing ... ... really? ... oh ... ok ... and therefore you support Mao and Stalin ... ... do I ... gosh ... news to me ... which makes you a hypocrite as the only reason you are slating Hitler and not them is because it is trendy ... My dear Ringer. Let me make this clear. There wasn't a Neo-Stalinist party participating in the Euro elections. There wasn't a Maoist party in the EU elections. There are no Stalinist or Maoist MEP's from the UK. phew ... don't have to worry about that then. HANG ON!!! you know wht? ... duh ... what ... there was a Neo Nazi party represented at the EU elections. ... duh ... oh ... was there ... Yes - they claim that they are becoming trendier these days (not actually true, just that everyone would rather stay hone this year) They are called the BNP and they are about as trendy as a pair of sackcloth Y-Fronts. ... uh huh ... Yeah - so (concentrate) as though we don't have a Stalinist or a Maoist party to worry about, we do have a Neo-Nazi party to worry about. That is why we are talking about Nazi's and not Mao or Stalin. see? ... uh ... no ... i fink ... uh ... what? Never mind. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: jeddy Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:44 PM ok, another thick moment ....who is george carmen? has he been talked about and i have missed the posting? I'M CONFUSED. please explain. j x x |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Richard Bridge Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:19 PM That's interesting, Sue. Most folksong singers I know seek to develop an individual repertoire. As to admiring a skill without regard to background, any admiration I might have had for Geroge Carman as a barrister in court (which was guarded in any event because of his habit of bullying witnesses)vanished when I found out how he behaved in private. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: greensue Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:03 PM The same songs as anyone else |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:02 PM Apologies that I haven't read past halfway in this thread. I did get far enough however to see that Little Hawk is way, way out of his depth. He says, for instance, "Evidently they equate to modern day "Nazis" in people's minds," and yet in the same breath admits that he has no basis for that opinion. The BNP are NOT Nazis merely in people's minds. Many of their leading members have convictions for crimes involving violence and incitement to hatred. A significant proportion of Nazis went through WW2 without ever comprehending how the Third Reich went about resolving the Jewish problem in Poland etc. No such excuse is available to the BNP. Those in its leadership who admire Hitler do so specifically specifically because of his anti-semitism, his loathing of gays and the disabled, etc. If Little Hawk is loyal to the principles he has expressed in this thread then in a bygone age he would have been happy to debate the rights and wrongs of lynchings with KKK members. And if any of his friends are violent paedophiles he would presumably look for common ground rather than jeopardise the friendship. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: greg stephens Date: 12 Jun 09 - 05:40 PM An interesting feature od this thread is that quite a few posters actually seem to be acquainted with the fascist singer at Sidmouth sessions. So, what songs does she perform/like? I am intrigued. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: GUEST,English Jon Date: 12 Jun 09 - 05:39 PM Nothing much to add, except my name to the very long list of people who are opposed to the BNP/NF/C18 crowd. A sad day. Cheers, Jon Loomes |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: The Barden of England Date: 12 Jun 09 - 01:38 PM Why do we not excoriate Stalin's and Mao's latter-day followers (communists, socialists) and label them with their fathers' genocides as we do with Hitler's? Because we're unthinkingly fashion-led, that's why. What an Idiot!!!! Stalin was no more communist than Hitler. Both were dictators you fool. And as for Mao being socialist - well thanks for that one, I've not had such a good laugh in ages. Dictators the lot. John Barden |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Stu Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:42 PM Good idea - time for a pint! Have a good one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Ringer Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:12 PM Bye to you, too. Enjoy your pint, as I hope to enjoy mine (but mine will be after ringing practice - it's called the thirst after righteousness). |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: theleveller Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:02 PM "Because your post came nowhere near to doing that. And what you say would have more impact if you learned the basic difference between "you're" and "your" " No? Ah well, that's a matter of opinion. As to the typing error, well, after spending the last 9 hours in front of a PC writing a 5000 word guide to people with hearing problems, I'm suffering from a bit of eye strain. (Why is the type on Mudcat so small?) I feel the need of liquid refreshment. Bye for now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: GUEST,Jackdaw Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:53 AM And why wouldn't she Crow sister, half of Europe is enjoying the health service and education system we British built and paid for. Welcome to soft touch Britain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:49 AM There was something that caught my eye on a television programme recently, just one of those antiques programmes burbling in the background, as they tend to do... And a very elegent well-spoken elderly lady, from Austria originally I believe, was extolling the virtues of Britian. She said with emphasis: "I'm more pro-British than the British!" Her story was, that as a young child, she along with her parents had managed to escape from the Nazi's. The other seventeen members of her family had died in the death camps. I found it remarkable and inspiring, that to this very day, multiple decades after her relocation here, she retains such a great pride in, and admiration of, Britain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Nick Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:48 AM Yorgos Similarly I'm agreeing. When I stand in a room and listen to someone play or sing or perform their politics and views are irrelevant UP TO THE POINT when I know them. I dare say that's why people walk out when I play - it's because of my political beliefs. I'll be starting another thread by the way with an Essay Competition (with perhaps a free ticket to Sidmouth as prize?). The tie break question will be along the lines of (answer in 20 words or less) - "I had absolutely no idea what the BNP stood for when I became their candidate because..." The competition will be to write an essay called "I became a candidate for the BNP naively" The winning entry will demonstrate convincingly that they became a member of the party and a candidate for election with absolutely no idea about any of the party's aims, aspirations, history or background of any of the members or their convictions (in all senses of the word). Judges decision is final. (I am the judge) |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Ringer Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:47 AM "We of the left," theleveller, often seem to be fatally blinkered, as I point out on another current thread. I didn't ask whether we "espouse or condone the actions of Stalin or Mao," I asked why we didn't excoriate their followers. And from what you say above, that they dress up in brown shirts is not the biggest thing that you hold against the BNP. Condescendingly, you say, "you're arguments just don't hold water." Why don't you try addressing them, then? Because your post came nowhere near to doing that. And what you say would have more impact if you learned the basic difference between "you're" and "your" (this is where I spot a grammatical error in my post just as I hit submit *grin*). No offence taken, Sugarfoot Jack. But if you present no arguments, would anyone blame me for thinking that you had none? |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Rifleman (inactive) Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:27 AM "Why don't you stop shouting and try a little light reading?" sorry, sunshine, I don't shout when I'm angry, don't even break a sweat, and light reading? your posts on various threads are good for that. Very calm very collected and staying that way |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Rifleman (inactive) Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:21 AM "George has been courageous in clarifying the speculation disingeniously started by Cllr and dignified in not responding to the accusatory and hysterical postings of the witch-hunters. The personal abuse, the attempt to incite and organise social ostracism, and the hints of physical confrontation and violence are ugly. I am disappointed that Dave Earl withdrew his original support. Did the witch-finders show him the instruments of torture? I don't know if our paths will cross any time soon, but I would very much like to hear George's singing." Good Day to you Daily Mail Reader old girl/boy. Sorry I don't like the new outfit, it clashes with your beliefs |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Stu Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:09 AM "Why do we not excoriate Stalin's and Mao's latter-day followers (communists, socialists) and label them with their fathers' genocides as we do with Hitler's? Because we're unthinkingly fashion-led, that's why." No offence, but this is one of the most ignorant and downright thick statements I've ever read on MudCat. I'm not going to, point out why, because if you actually believe what you're written it's probably way beyond your understanding anyway. Christ on a bike. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: theleveller Date: 12 Jun 09 - 11:05 AM No it isn't, it's because we of the left do not necessarily espouse or condone the actions of Stalin or Mao - nor do we dress up in their uniforms and parade around under their symbols, as do the fascist thugs of the BNP and other right wing groups. Fashion has nothing to do with it - what a stupid statement. Sorry, Ringer, you're arguments just don't hold water - yet again!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Ringer Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:53 AM It's not fashionable to say so, but -isms of the left (Stalin, Mao) killed far more people in the 20th century than the -ism of the right (Hitler) did. Why do we not excoriate Stalin's and Mao's latter-day followers (communists, socialists) and label them with their fathers' genocides as we do with Hitler's? Because we're unthinkingly fashion-led, that's why. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Dudfoot Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:15 AM It's a subjective thing - I couldn't agree more - and a very subtle thing too. I doubt that many of us could hear a performance and unerringly detect all the ways in which the performer's personality is couched within it. We just don't have the tools to do that. But (and I freely admit that I'm talking somewhat hypothetically here, never knowingly having heard the singer in question) this is a rather exeptional case. For one thing, these are not just predispositions. To put yourself forward as a candidate for election for a particular set of principles is to make a conscious decision to make these principles a significant, defining part of you as a person. So these parts of the personality are likely to be among the most influential. And secondly folk song is especially susceptible to manipulation by ultra-nationalists. If someone sings a traditional song - and not one explicitly making the point - I think I generally get a good idea if that performer has a rose-tinted view of the past, whether they find a connection with the singers who have passed the song along (or, conversely, detatch themselves from that), whether they think of the originators of the song (or the characters withing it) as primitive or sophisticated (or as equals). And many more things besides. And all of these nuances come from the performer's personal make-up. Moreover, in this particular case, we know the vile matrix through which the song is being filtered. Ultimately the conclusion about the content of the performance may well be subjective and my own, but it's real. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: George Papavgeris Date: 12 Jun 09 - 10:09 AM To help us rationalise the complexities of the world around us, we often look for 'handles' on which to base assumptions. It's human, we all do it to some extent, the difference between us is only in the degree of assumptions we are prepared to make. So we can deduce certain things from one's membership of, or candidacy for, a party. But how far are we prepared to carry these assumptions? We can safely deduce that George supports the BNP policies, including their racism, the totalitarianism of their political thinking and their preparedness to resort to violence. But how much more can we deduce safely? Would she be a bad mother? Would she steal? Would she give to charity? Would she be a bad driver? Would she be a bad singer? Our own differing tolerance levels to some of these acts, and our different thresholds of acceptable assumptions, is what makes us different from each other. I remember my parents (Greek Liberals, i.e. Centre-Right) often marvelling at the 'wonder' that their best friend was a staunch Communist. But that incongruity led them - and me - to beware of too many assumptions and generalisations. There is such a thing as Totalitarian Thinking, to which even the most democratic and liberal-minded people can be prone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: MBSLynne Date: 12 Jun 09 - 09:58 AM Damn it! Sorry, that last post was me. My computer is being funny with cookies or something. Lynne |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: GUEST Date: 12 Jun 09 - 09:56 AM Like several others, I avoided this thread at first. I expected the sort of awful vitriol which has become part of Mudcat in recent times, but, having felt I needed to see exactly what George had to say, I came on here and am relieved to find (in the main) rational, civilized and reasonable comment. Firstly, I too would like to see George change her Mudcat identity. If she continues to call hersel MBS I will have to change mine, and I was MBSLynne long before she was MBSGeorge. Besides, I don't think she will really be able to call herself a Middle Bar Singer any more. As I've thought and thought about all this the one thing that comes up in my mind is that I MUST ask George one question......"WHY?" I've known her for many years and I was taken aback (to understate it) when I read about this on the Middle Bar group. I think a lot of people who support BNP are naive to say the least (And in my experience, not often intelligent, thinking people) but as has been pointed out by a number of people, to support the party may be due to naievety (How the bloody hell do you spell that??) but actually to stand for the party can hardly be excused on those grounds. I considered George a friend but I find that this cannot be the case now I know her views. To be my friend and to support a party of racists and bigots....the two are mutually exclusive. No friend of mine could possibly endorse this party and it's views. However I would still like to hear George's reasons. Any chance? Lynne |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: George Papavgeris Date: 12 Jun 09 - 09:39 AM Nick, I agree fully - 'naive' does not cut it, not for membership of any party and certainly not for standing for office on behalf of it. Sadly, we have to assume that George made a conscious choice in standing for BNP, which in turn leads us to deduce certain characteristis of her personality and thinking. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: George Papavgeris Date: 12 Jun 09 - 09:35 AM Dudfoot, I agree abhout the performance of a song being more than the song itself, but has it happened to you to have listened several times to someone's passionate and sensitive singing, and liked them for it, only to find out accidentally years later that at the time the singer you admired had been a wife-beater? Or an embezzler? Or that they had repeatedly beaten their step-son to the point of hospitalisation? Because I have - all three cases I mention. And of course, any friendship that existed between me and them ceased to be once I found out those things. But I could not deny having enjoyed their singing when I knew none of those things. This led me to think: Had my enjoyment been false at the time? (Answer: No, I had genuinely enjoyed them). Had their singing changed once I learnt what they had done? (Answer: No, it was just as good). What had undoubtedly changed was my perception of them as people. In the interests of objectivity I resolved therefore to always try to dissociate the singer's personality from the performance, with the one exception when their performance is in support of a cause I disagree with - what I call a 'militant' or 'militarised' performance. Which is why I would not give Michael Jackson the time of day, but I will listen to his songs, especially the early ones, with pleasure. So while your argument is logical, I would argue that it leaves too much room for subjectivity and is therefore impractical in the real world, as exemplified by the three cases I mentioned above. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Nick Date: 12 Jun 09 - 09:31 AM >>How can all of you spitting fire and disgust hope to persuade a nieve girl that she is wrong. A naive girl? What a sweet thought. I could understand that someone might have some support for the BNP naively. I could perhaps understand someone voting for the BNP naively. Joining the BNP naively - no that's getting hard. Getting involved in the BNP naively - nope. Becoming a candidate and standing in an election naively - there is no hope of that. As this naif goes from door to door campaigning for the first time and encounters some conflict to the BNPs standpoints and views - what does she say? "I am standing as a candidate but I don't actually believe in any of the policies I just became a candidate naively". There's a vote puller... There is noone in this country with the smallest bit of functional brain that could naively become a candidate for a political party - ESPECIALLY the BNP. Read about their selection process. Be like someone standing as a candidate for the Green Party and being surprised at the reaction they get when they announce that, as usual, they'll be driving to Canada in the 4x4 to enjoy their annual seal clubbing holiday. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Dave Earl Date: 12 Jun 09 - 09:16 AM Er scuse me Fairplay where do you know me from? What I said was :- 1 Until George did..... I still regard her as a friend. 2 Suggested that it be best not to spoil the Middle Bar sessions - (Cos others feel more grieved than I - I just feel a friend is mistaken in her choice). I don't feel that I have supported the BNP (I'd dislike myself if I had) so there was no support to withdraw. I don't to politics (left,right,middle of the road or any other direction) butI do care about people I know even if I disagree with them from time to time. Dave |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Dudfoot Date: 12 Jun 09 - 08:59 AM Ralphie: "As for the singing of George, I've never knowingly heard her sing. And now I don't wish too." Yorgos: "As long as she's not singing from the wrong hymnbook, that's fine by me." I have to stand with Ralphie here. A performance of a song is about much more than the song itself. No singer is really worth listening to unless they own the song - they make that song part of their person. You choose a song because of the way it resonates with you and the nuances of performance embody the character of the performer. A good performance is impossible unless there's something of the performer in it. And the little I know about George as a person, the things that she condones and approves of, makes me pretty sure that the character that is expressed in this way is not one that I want to have anything to do with. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Jack Campin Date: 12 Jun 09 - 08:55 AM Three posts from "fairplay" within minutes, all supporting the BNP, and she's never posted here before. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: theleveller Date: 12 Jun 09 - 08:29 AM "the hints of physical confrontation and violence are ugly." I agree, but it's always been a part of how the BNP and its bootboys operate. I was looking at a photo yesterday in the Manchester Evening News of the uniformed fascist thugs preventing people from entering the pub where Griffin was holding court. Never have I seen such an ugly bunch. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: George Papavgeris Date: 12 Jun 09 - 08:05 AM I have heard George sing, Ralphie - she is good, no denying that. As long as she's not singing from the wrong hymnbook, that's fine by me. I don't know who fairplay is, and it doesn't really matter to me, I just judge posters from their postings taking them at face value and I'm too thick to wrap my brain around conspiracy theories. My position on the subject of BNP should be clear enough by now anyway. As for identity theft, I fear we are too small fry for the Benighted Nationalist Pillocks to bother us - to save honour you and I may have to steal each other's identity... :-) Ake, Jeddy, well done for piping downand agreeing to shed the extras - it upset me a little to see two reasonable people losing their arguments in a sea of abuse. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: GUEST,Ralphie Date: 12 Jun 09 - 07:51 AM Ah Mr fairplay.... Have you changed your name again? Weren't you Daily Mail Reader the other day? Come on. You are a BNP apologist aren't you? As for the singing of George, I've never knowingly heard her sing. And now I don't wish too. (Mind you she would probably appreciate one person listening) Looking forward to having my identity stolen along with those that it's already happened to. Bring it on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: fairplay Date: 12 Jun 09 - 07:41 AM George has been courageous in clarifying the speculation disingeniously started by Cllr and dignified in not responding to the accusatory and hysterical postings of the witch-hunters. The personal abuse, the attempt to incite and organise social ostracism, and the hints of physical confrontation and violence are ugly. I am disappointed that Dave Earl withdrew his original support. Did the witch-finders show him the instruments of torture? I don't know if our paths will cross any time soon, but I would very much like to hear George's singing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: jeddy Date: 12 Jun 09 - 07:22 AM AKE, i'm sorry too, i think we both got caught up in the spirit of arguement. i hope work for you isn't too bad and you are one of the lucky ones who enjoy what you do. i am looking forward to some debating with you later, i promise i will leave the insults out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Ruth Archer Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:08 AM To everyone who's told me about the identity theft - ta. It's been reported to Facebook. Yes, they've done a "Hoff Bridge" on me, too. Sad, really, but at least it exposes the BNP and their grubby little tactics to anyone who thinks they've "changed". |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 12 Jun 09 - 06:06 AM I don't know if this is a bit off topic or could even be a thread in its own right, but as Gordon Brown has spoken about reforming the electoral system for MPs this raises some concerns. I hope that parliament will never be determined by a vote carve-up as in the GLA and Euro-elections. In first past the post constituents vote for an individual to represent them. In turn that individual may (most likely) belong to a political party, and, again, most likely the voter makes their choice on the basis of the party the individual belongs to. The European PR method has some set-backs: If the number of MPs was 500, then a repugnant party could gain a seat with as little as .2% of the vote, so if they got 2 seats, it means that 99.4% of those who voted would not touch them with a bargepole. How would MPs be allocated to constituencies? It would not be viable for a party with one elected candidate to hold surgeries in all 500 constituences. Thirdly, the personaility of the MP may cross party boudaries. Someone may for example vote lib-dem on the basis of the MPs track record in representing his or her constituents rather than the support for his/her party. Personally I favour the transferrable vote method where the person elected has the support of the majority of those who voted in any given constituency. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: eddie1 Date: 12 Jun 09 - 03:07 AM Have a look at this My Britain and I'm proud of it! Thanks to mg on another thread for this link. Eddie |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: akenaton Date: 12 Jun 09 - 02:58 AM Hello Jeddy,I'm sorry, you are obviously not an "idiot", tho' I was also supposed to be having a joke. I was responding in kind to others on the "gay marriage" thread and must have carried over to this one. I will respond to you later, but have to get out to work right now. Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: GUEST,Ralphie Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:42 AM As always Sir jOhn from Hull has hit the nail on the head. Well said. (You can leave out the expletives next time!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 12 Jun 09 - 12:24 AM bnp people =you are rubbish, so fuck off, thats my opinion. Sir jOhn Evans from Hull. anyay=waht if yuo get ill and a coloured person, =ie= a doctor saves your life, maybe you are rubbish, and think he should be sent to back to india,or werever he comes from. anyway=if you get in an accident, i hope all the foreign people go on strike, anmd just leave you to die, and serve you right , becae you are shit and racist, and i don't think there be any religo waht suppport rasist views, so just think about that then,stupif. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: jeddy Date: 11 Jun 09 - 09:11 PM AKE, this is what you said about the similarities between gays and lesbisns and insest and pedophilia( alright i can't spell it but i know what it means) " If anyone wants to fuck their sister, their auntie,or another man, I say good luck to them let, them get on with it as long as the sister, auntie, or other man wants the same as they do. What they do in private is their business, but there is no bastard in the world going to tell me, Mudcat, or society at large, that their business is normal human behaviour and we must give up our long held traditional beliefs to accomodate it,or hand over very young children in a bizarre social experiment......Ake " you accuse me of being an idiot PMSL as a gay woman i dispise your' ignorance. nut it is okay for me but if i were a man? no, not acceptable . please get back to me about this and my original post to you as i would like to see just how stupid you really can be x x x " |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: jeddy Date: 11 Jun 09 - 08:48 PM AKE, stop taking the piss, NEVER, you thought i was an idiot, fine that is your' right to think so.however that reads fine to me, tell me which bit you thought was idiotic and i will reason it out to you. it was you who were saying that the lib dems, conservatives and loubour were in fact worse than the BNP not me. it seems obvious to me that you are the idiot if you cannot understand humour. i was asking what you thought light reading was and since your' only answer has been to try and make me look stupid( ican do that well enough on my own ta, and do quite alot of the time, but not in this instance i feel)i can only assume you do not actually read any books. this kind of thing is exactly what AZIZI was talking about when she was saying about misunderstandings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: akenaton Date: 11 Jun 09 - 06:51 PM Jeddy..I didn't respond because I thought you were an idiot, If I was wrong, compose a sensible post and prove it. If I was right, stop takin' the piss :0)..Ake |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: Liz the Squeak Date: 11 Jun 09 - 06:35 PM "so you didn't sit in class and learn English then?" No. I sat in a classroom. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: I am the BNP candidate in Chippenham From: greensue Date: 11 Jun 09 - 06:33 PM Oh yes I think the egg joke thing should have been: Someone threw an egg at Nick Griffin, had they seperated the white from the coloured? |