Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 07:02 AM

I notice that my post back there on 12 Aug at 09:28 AM was my 3000th! This is my 3020th. Sorry for disrupting your precious thread to impart this irrelevance but my wife is working a weekend shift and all plans for a wander have been scuppered by the rain; my right hand is aching with Black Sea Fiddle RSI and I have an important rehearsal at 5.30pm. On the plus side, I am optimistic that the postman will be delivering the copy of Bob Pegg's still-controversial book Folk I bought off Ebay earlier in the week (when he gets here) and my wife has just rang to say she's coming for dinner with sarnies from Subway. Do we have a Subway in the re-Imagined Village? Hold on - wrong thread, but do feel free to pop over and tell us about your lovely week in Sidmouth! Maybe next year I might join you...

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Surreysinger
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 09:46 PM

Although sadly Rhiannon, I think that the other thread's title gave a bit more of a clue to what the intent of the thread was about, so I doubt that Kev would have realised that there was any duplication... although in fact I don't really think there is - he actually asks for an evaluation of the event, rather than reports (slight difference, I realise, but a difference nevertheless) :-)

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 05:48 PM

Yes,Sal, it is - but my thread was first! lol

Blessings
Rhiannon

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 05:06 PM

Isn't this here the same thing?

Sal

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 04:59 PM

I was expecting to read of some the experiences of some of those who were able to attend Sidmouth Folk Week (unfortunately I wasn't), instead I see yet again, a few, who would disrupt any or all of the many music threads, with their views on "English nationalism", which, personally, I have absolutely no interest in. I want to know about this years Sidmouth Folk Week and that's the topic of this thread, is it not?

Stand and Be Counted!

Olivia Beak (Ms)

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: The Barden of England
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 04:35 PM

The only problem I see with that Rhiannon is that the people who wish to disrupt a thread will get what they want. WAV and others continually do this to get noticed. Would that Joe could delete the thread creep rather than close what is essentially a good thread.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 04:27 PM

Joe. I started this thread thinking it would provoke lots of stories from Sidders. Sadly it seems the threa has "gone to the bad"

Can you simply close it please?

Blessings
Rhiannon

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 04:21 PM

Not bad so far! Not been well this week, so not posted as I promised.

A touch of Thread Creep here I think? A suggestion would be to TOTALLY ignore any comments by WAV and continue with the evaluation of Sidmouth 2009 as it was intended to be :-)

Keep going Folkies :-)

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: dj bass
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 12:55 PM

I was at Sidmouth. I loved it, again. The Silent Disco was on my list of highlights too, so I understand how it could be on Ruth's or anyone else's. I could not physically fit in all the things I would have liked to attend, truly we were spoilt for choice.

I have heard Jim Moray sing unaccomapnied and play without PA in Totnes folk club in Feb 2009 - it was a fabulous evening - I've also seen him dancing out with Bristol Morris.

Finally, starting an argument with Eliza Carthy and Jim Moray about English traditional music: that's not normal behaviour is it? I mean, you wouldn't explain the offside rule to a pair of professional footballers...

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 06:25 AM

frankly, it is a struggle to keep that many in my memory/get through them all once per week.

To me, Folk Singing has always been a process of exploration and constant learning leading to exciting new discoveries and unexpected experiences - and as such it never ends. One should always be developing new material, even if it means forgetting some of the old stuff along the way. It is the Traddy Way that when one has forgotten more songs than one currently has in one's repertoire that you might have made a start!

I say this by way of encouragement, WAV. You are Walkaboutsverse, for goodness sake get out and Walk.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 05:47 AM

If it's of any comfort, S., I try to remember to have my hymn atop my myspace player on weekends only. And it's true that I've put a limit on my repertoire of 50-60 songs/tunes - frankly, it is a struggle to keep that many in my memory/get through them all once per week.

Mr Red - the founders of what became the EFDSS were more-or-less positive English nationalists, also - concerned with maintaining aspects of our own cultural heritage; and I doubt if they would have liked discos and American pop/rock at English folk festivals, either.

Around the same time as the just-abovementioned BBC documentary, Tony Blair, born in Scotland, said: "We don't want a return of English nationalism". Oh yes we do, in my opinion - WITHOUT imperialism this time.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 05:17 AM

Sadly in listening to WAV's tracks I have increased his listening figures hence upped his own approval rating...

As I say, Stu, in the contexts of singarounds & such like I have frequently put up with a lot worse than WAV, thus must I view the idiosyncrasies of his musicality within the wider parameters of untutored / outsider Folk Singing so much of which carries it's own naive charm - such as the singing of Sydney Carter which I heard for the first time only recently. The same might be said of a lot of so-called source singers whose musicality is often seen as secondary to the songs they sing & the social contexts within which they sang it - not by me though; give me a field-recorded traditional singer to studio recorded revivalist any day!

WAV's Hymns I'm not sold on in the slightest, but then again I only listen to hymns in the context of Holy Mass where they belong. When I Survey the Wondrous Cross is a particular favourite of mine, something to be sung on Good Friday during the Veneration where the power of the words might move even a cynical old atheistic heart like my own. Yeah, even as a cynical old atheist I find WAVs adoption of this hymn as part of his relentless scheme of self-promotional glory disrespectful and sacrilegious in the extreme - and excruciatingly non-musical to boot.

My advice to WAV has always been to explore the cultural intricacies of English Traditional Song that mirror the migrations of his own life - i.e. the richness of English Folk Song one finds in The Australian Tradition. However, as in most things in life, WAV has decided that having learned 17 E.Trads he will not trouble himself to learn any more, thus arresting himself somewhat prematurely in the understanding of a subject he nevertheless feels himself qualified to pontificate upon. He has barely dipped his toe in the waters of this vast and wondrous ocean; WAV is a child with a plastic boat advising seasoned shellbacks on their seamanship.

So - WAV's all right for a singaround, as I say, which on one level must operate as a sanctuary for those who feel the need to sing (for whatever reason) but who wouldn't otherwise get a chance. That said, I'd still give him a 15-minute slot in the re-Imagined Village Folk Festival Open Mic Tent (2 E. Trads, 1 Walkabout; AND NO F*CKING HYMNS) and I'm sure if he ever came to Fylde he'd give our Ron a run for his money in The Worst Singer in the World competition...

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 05:50 AM

Derek Schofield was, as ever, so correct without giving offence to anyone. A diplomat worthy of his role within EFDSS.
I intend to move on - and Towersey is looming, but first the White Horse FF (see my festival list) and Stomp.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 05:23 AM

To Richd: "as a Welshman!" within our United Nations, you, culturally, show me yours and I, as an Englishman within our United Nations, will show you mine - yes, perhaps after more play-a-line/sing-a-line intonation training.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: s&r
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 04:34 AM

Never heard him live Sean, so that qualifies my opinion about as much as listening to the radio gives one a valid opinion on Sidmouth.

However, intrigued by yur comments and respecting your judgment I listened to some of WAV's tracks.

IMO and as available on his site: the voice quality is not in itself unpleasant, nor is his native accent.

His reciting is hypnotic and expressionless, it is however well articulated and easy to hear.

"When I survey": the voice is flat on at least half the notes, and this is more evident when accompanied with the keyboard.

At that I lost the will to live, however I believe that with some vocal coaching a massive improvement would be possible. Finding a good coach is the secret, but there must be competent tutors in the NE folk world who would give a couple of freebies.

Sadly in listening to WAV's tracks I have increased his listening figures hence upped his own approval rating...


Stu

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 13 Aug 09 - 03:17 AM

I think WAV is a perfectly respectable singer of E. Trads, his Aussie brogue bringing out some interesting & often endearing qualities, as in his cover of Cob a Coaling which takes on a quite poignant elegance in WAV's hands. He's certainly more than adequate as a floor singer and his self-composed chants are quite unlike anything else you're likely to hear in a singaround. He is a charming and appreciative participant; a thoroughly good-egg as I'm sure anyone here who has actually met him will agree. My main complaint (the on-line persona notwithstanding) is that his policy is to sing a WAV-chant first, and an E. Trad second. I think perhaps he ought to reverse this, as it might be expecting a lot of any audience (even in most tolerant of singarounds) to travel from Lands End to John O'Groats on a first acquaintance. Also - I really think he should put that voice to better use and explore the Australian legacy of the English Folk Song tradition, which is vast and wonderful.

I did not get into Folk to listen to professionals; I came in via the back door with field-recordings, floor-singers and singarounds. Over the years I've heard a lot worse than WAV (even on field-recordings) which is hardly the point as Folk Music is suggestive of an inclusiveness that might engender a certain notion of sanctuary to those who might not otherwise have any other place to sing.

For that reason alone - Come-All-Ye - WAV included!

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Effsee
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 10:13 PM

Having visited and listened to WAV's efforts on Myspace, the phrase "delusions of adequacy" springs to mind.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: The Barden of England
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 06:49 PM

Derek Schofield got it so right.

You weren't there WAV, so why the hell are you pontificating??

Oh yes - I realise now, you expect me to appreciate you. Believe me, I don't.
John Barden

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: greg stephens
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 06:12 PM

My Granny used to say"Don't mock the afflicted".

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 06:00 PM

Anyone willing to spend their hard earned to see WAV?

Anyone ever booked him? Come on Dave, tell us what bookings you have done and how often you have been invited back.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: richd
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 05:40 PM

There are but two steps to Fascism. Nationalism then apartheid. I like to think that I am amongst people who oppose all three, speaking as a Welshman!

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 04:57 PM

...and, it would be a lot better if the BBC showed the whole documentary again, but "English don't know who they are; most English people are unaware that they have given up their identity, and were sold an idea of Britain" ("Martin Carthy: English Roots" documentary).

And, as I answered you above Jim M., I, too, am a positive English (NOT British) nationalist.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: s&r
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 03:45 PM

Sometimes I think you wind us up for fun WAV. Most times I fear you don't.

You're not the only thread-wrecker on Mudcat, but you're the most consistent.


Stu

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 03:31 PM

Oh, WAV's just (mis)quoting from Roots, a lyric with which I cannot wholly concur because of its ambiguity which led, inevitably, to misappropriation. I found this transcription
http://www.allthelyrics.com/lyrics/show_of_hands/roots-lyrics-1259096.html , worthy of an entire chapter of its own in The Book Of Mondegreens.

I do know what Steve Knightley was trying to say, but this does illustrate the crucial importance of being absolutely clear.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: GUEST,Jim Moray
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 03:16 PM

No WAV - name names. Which well known, pro-folkie has said those things? That "we may never know how much we English have lost, and how we don't seem to know who we are any more, etc."

I can assure you that nobody I know would say those things, much less mean the things you are implying here.

These are words straight out of a BNP leaflet. This kind of language is very very dangerous, and you have to be clear about your meaning.

Of course, this is a circular argument and we are all tired of it, but it's more important than ever that this kind of thing doesn't go unchallenged.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: s&r
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 03:16 PM

When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.

Apply this test WAV and you are no Englishman


Stu

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 02:31 PM

BUT, Surreysinger, this modern English trend goes far beyond replacing "English country dance" with "ceilidh," or an English football manager with an Italian, of course. And I'm not, of course, alone in feeling the urge to speak/sing out, despite the flak. Without naming names/quoting, well-known pro folkies have recently stated how we may never know how much we English have lost, and how we don't seem to know who we are any more, etc.

Our past imperialism WAS wrong, but that doesn't mean we should keep shooting ourselves, culturally, in the foot.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 02:16 PM

"Ceilidh" was a term in use at Cecil # House from the very early 1960s to my knowledge, if not sooner. It referred to a dance event with some form of alternative interval spot, usually song or Morris and was thus closer in meaning to the original Scottish visiting custom. During the 70s and 80s, dance at the House became progressively insular, exclusive and slow until a "Committee" of disgruntled dancers and players staged a revolution, a sort of ceilidh revival wherein the emphasis was clearly on stepping rather than on complex moves. The "kneesup" origin of eceilidh was born. This newish tradition is prevalent at Sidmouth LNEs, at Towersey and at certain largely southern England venues at which enthusiasts muster from near and far.

The last time I was at Sidmouth, eceilidh, country dancing, D4D, contra and Playford all co-existed at different venues and probably still do.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Surreysinger
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 01:34 PM

WAV - I too went to "English Country Dancing" lessons when at primary school (and learned Scottish country dancing at my Surrey grammar school - hated it!). But that was in the late 1950's - half a century ago - when the term ceilidh wasn't in use on the English scene. It's hardly surprising that your late godmother wouldn't have heard the term - it didn't exist then!! It's a term which has been used in more recent times to refer to particular types of English dances.By suggesting that the term "English country dance" should be used you are yet again displaying your lack of knowledge of the traditonal music and dance scene. If you care to peruse the Wikipedia entry for ceilidhs, and specifically the section on English ceilidhs, you will find more detail regarding the nature of e-ceilidhs.

The following extract gives some details regarding the type of music "At English ceilidh events you'll find bands making the most of the English tradition (Old Swan Band for example) but also many bands picking up strong influences from other forms of music, for example ska for Whapweasel, French traditional for Token Women, Welsh traditional for Twm Twp, Jazz for Chalktown, Funk Fusion for Ceilidhography, Rock for Peeping Tom, Aardvark Ceilidh Band and Tickled Pink, West African and Indian for Boka Halat and self-penned material for Climax Ceilidh Band."

The tradition - either song,music or dance - moves on ... things are not "set in aspic" ...

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 12:52 PM

Reality is brought about through lack of alcohol.

100

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: s&r
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 12:39 PM

How can you deny your flagrant xenophobia and then come out with such rubbish.

Spend more effort on assimilating the culture of our good country and less on the nightmare scenario of your dreams and everyone else's nightmares

Stu

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 12:16 PM

To Surreysinger, re. the "ceilidh": my late godmother told me that she did learn one or two Scottish county dances at school in England, but at least 90% was English country dance; and, when I mentioned ceilidh, I swear to God she'd never heard of it. Please, please let the Scots have their ceilidhs, and the Irish their ceilis - in England should be held English country dances.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 12:08 PM

so, in conclusion. The general verdict on Sidmouth 2009 on this thread is that ... all the people who weren't there didn't like it, and all the people who were there did like it ... except no-one liked the rain and resulting mud.
let's move on...
Derek

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: PaulF
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 11:55 AM

Is it true there was a hostile takeover bid at Sidmouth this year?
Paul

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Folkiedave
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 11:00 AM

I have listened to WAV on MySpace too.

Ruth, it's what people call "Interesting" when they are being polite.

As Surreysinger points out one of the highlights of the week at Whitby is always the Shagpile "Bop Till You Drop" session.

And if you want to hear what Shagpile sound like (after all by definition you can't hear the Silent Disco!) By all means listen to "Thank Goodness It's Folk" on SheffieldLive.org 10.00 am Friday. Not sure whether to play "High School Confidential" or "Money Honey"!!

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Surreysinger
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 10:18 AM

Ruth, I rather suspect that there can be _no_ English folk festival that meets WAV's rather peculiar standards and definitions . After all, Whitby, which is more traditionally based than Sidmouth in it's outlook, has already been found lacking in view of it's one fun ceilidh of the week (heaven knows what he'd think of Mr Burland and Shagpile, as I think I said). I'm pretty sure that the now sadly defunct Traditions Festival would not have come up to scratch either - good old Sid Calderbank and his Lancashire parlour concert wouldn't have met his criteria at all! (I do wonder if John Heydon's lamented National would even have hacked it).

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 10:11 AM

"but, if I put in about an hour a day, I get as much or more interest on the web than many who have been given such slots"

Morbid curiosity, perhaps? I have listened to your efforts on your Myspace, WAV. Your "playing" is barely up to grade 1 standard and has no phrasing at all. Your singing is frequently out of tune. You tend to play and sing in different keys. Your whole approach is amateurish and distinctly odd. Normally I wouldn't make such a public judgement if an artist is genuinely asking me for a slot, but as you insist on pressing the point on a public forum, these are the reasons I will not be booking you. I'm sorry.

Yes, the Silent Disco was one of the highlights of the festival for me. Again, I apologise if this offends your sensibilities. As you were not at the event, how do you lknow how much of the music played at the disco was actually folk? A lot of it was. Of course, a lot of it wasn't. But it was a great event - not one you would appreciate, I grant, but as you were not there, and are unlikely to attend in future, I won't lose too much sleep over that. Sidmouth is not an "English" folk festival by your definition (thank god). It has always contained a broad and healthy international element. This year, it included a breadth of artists like Edward II, the Dhol Foundation, the London Bulgarian Choir, Tanec Bulgarian Dancers, the Destroyers...all British artists, but presenting music and dance with roots in Bulgaria, Hungary, the Caribbean and the Punjab. And then of course there were the actual international artists: Genticorum, Riccardo Tesi, Hotel Palindrone, the Spooky Men...

Not your vision of an English folk festival at all I'm afraid, WAV. Sidmouth doesn't have a border patrol.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:57 AM

Jim Moray

Don't waste time on trolls who probably haven't seen you and don't intened to. For me your reputation preceeded you and what I heard on Radio4 was more than enough to confirm the reputation. I don't do concerts so I know Cheltenham Town Hall Barn Dance will be everything I expect. I get my tickets tomorrow!

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:52 AM

S: you've just contradicted yourself, yet again

How? When? Where? Who? What? Why?

and, if the mods hadn't stopped you, no doubt we would have had to cope with another hand-full of name changes, as well, by now.

Petty stuff, WAV! But in the common law a man may go by whatever name he so chooses; this one is my preferred folk handle - going back some 20 years but first appearing in print in the letters page of the Jan / Feb 1991 Folk Roots double issue #91/92. Yup, I was bitching on about the same stuff then as I do now; plus ca change! But at least I got a sentence in mentioning both Sun Ra and Jim Eldon. Smart stuff I'd say. Twenty years on they're both still dear to my loving heart, so again I say plus ca change!

S O'P

PS - And that should be handful...

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:40 AM

Everything I've done thus far, Stu, has been as an amateur.

S: you've just contradicted yourself, yet again; and, if the mods hadn't stopped you, no doubt we would have had to cope with another hand-full of name changes, as well, by now.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Old Vermin
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:29 AM

Seeing that this thread is clearly no longer about Sidmouth, can anyone suggest an objective means of ranking posters by tendentiousness?

If computers can calculate a fog index for a text, would it be possible to similarly parse, say, for disproportionate use of block capitals, question and exclamation marks, the words 'English', 'you' and 'I'.

Other suggestions welcome.

Sorry to have missed you at the Volly, SurreySinger - just didn't manage to get there.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:28 AM

if I put in about an hour a day, I get as much or more interest on the web than many who have been given such slots - check around myspace, e.g.

Myspace is mainly mutual sycophancy, WAV - people only say nice things about you if / so you'll say nice things about them. The more you do, the more praise you'll get. An hour a day though? That's - er - 365 hours a year - which is - er - two fecking weeks a year, WAV! Just to have smoke blown up your ass? Not good - not good at all. That said, I have had a few good deals out of myspace & it serves as a handy on-line CV for other non-myspace types to tune into if they're interested...

One thing we can agree on is that repatriation is the opposite of immigration

I've been giving you the benefit of a lot of doubt recently, WAV but statements like that make me wonder where your head is at.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: s&r
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:26 AM

An hour a day of cut and paste
I have to say of time a waste
Fill the forum fill the blog
'til the www becomes a-clog
Find someone to irritate
with verse or prosy prate
tell us of your foreign degree
Oh no - I'm English see.


In sincere imitation

Stu

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: s&r
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:17 AM

Have you ever had a paid booking WAV?

If so have you ever been rebooked?


in curiosity

Stu

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:11 AM

"If you are actually asking me (publicly, twice) for a programmed slot, I'm afraid I will have to (publicly) reply that your work is simply not of a high enough standard to be considered, but thank you for your interest." (Ruth Archer)...but, if I put in about an hour a day, I get as much or more interest on the web than many who have been given such slots - check around myspace, e.g. One thing we can agree on is that repatriation is the opposite of immigration - yes, Ruth (for whom a "disco" was a "highlight" of an English folk festival)?

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 08:09 AM

I wish I hadn't started this thread now!

Rhiannon

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 07:32 AM

""come down some time and see for yourself"...thanks, Ruth - and may I do a gig, or at least a set, of WalkaboutsVerse plus E. trads, with English-flute/tenor-recorder intros, please?"

As Crow Sister says, WAV, and I said earlier, there are lots of open mics and sessions. Fill yer boots. If you are actually asking me (publicly, twice) for a programmed slot, I'm afraid I will have to (publicly) reply that your work is simply not of a high enough standard to be considered, but thank you for your interest.

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 07:28 AM

Sean - I love mythconception!

Not mine, alas, Stu! I nabbed it from a old myth-demolishing feature in Fortean Times...

"xenophobia" (S) is a fear of strangers - it's me, not you, who has enjoyed travelling through about 40 countries on a shoe-string.

You're avoiding the point as usual. Besides which, you've come to a total standstill now - in your thinking, writing, learning, and travelling. Time you got out again - go Walkabout, WAV - see the world afresh!

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: s&r
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 07:11 AM

Born in England, 'educated' and 'grew up' in Australia. Fled your adopted country but retained your passport/citizenship?

Learned about English Folk music in four or five years. Speaks/sings Australian.

in the year of your birth many immigrants had children. Are they English? Or should they be sent elsewhere where they can enjoy music from their own culture?

Enjoying travel is a good way of spending time. Says nothing for your attitudes. What did you learn?

Stu

Subject: RE: Expecting Sidders folk to flood the Cat?
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 07:11 AM

You were answered WaV, earlier down the thread. Loads of sessions and open mics for any amateur wishing to perform, to choose from. You just show up and join in.