BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010

Subject: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 09:47 AM

Every dumbass commentator is calling this 09-oh10, so what the f*ck. I may as well.

I'm suggesting a different focus this year for our all-year hockey thread. The tone (for those of you new to Mudcat-style hockey threads) has always been to respect one another's teams while still calling it as we see it for our own teams. We don't usually go much for the trash-talk of denigrating each other's teams. We DO bemoan our OWN teams' foibles.

And that is why I feel perfectly comfortable focusing this year on the many ways in which our Penguins SUCK. Yes, there is all the skill, talent, great coaching, great organization, etc. But I still see the places where they need to grow.

And THAT is why I can easily say, after seeing two RS games, that there is NO WAY they could have beaten the Wings last year if the Wings had been equally healthy (or the Pens equally banged up). Because the Pens I'm seeing in THIS game (we're a few behind on our DVR due to MIL visit) are more in love with having lucked into the Cup last year than with being able to win the Cup. They are not as focused as they SAY they are, on winning it again. They're still coasting too much (as individual players) on the heady magic of their talent. They don't yet see it as a JOB.

[rant off]

So there! How does YOUR team suck this year (or habitually)?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 01:07 PM

Well, it's about damned time, Susan. I've been waiting to get going and I assure you that I will refresh this thread prn in order to keep it in our faces and quickly accessable to comments.

The first thing to write is that I agree with your assessment of the Pens winning the cup, in part, because the Wings were so banged up - we Winged folk didn't even know how much the team was damaged until it was all over and the truth of the injuries came out. But, hey, being healthy and/or injured is part of the game and you just have to deal with it - win or lose.

As for my guys,...hmmm, well, as far as I'm concerned we are in trouble for this year; but, again, I'm not maintaining a locker at The Joe, and Babcock still doesn't call me, so...

But, I do think that we have a big problem in the net. Ozzy will be fine, but I'm in the camp that does not think that Jimmy Howard will get it done, and, I'm also very disappointed that they were not able to find a way to keep Ty Conklin - I really like him.

Our penalty killing has been especially bad going back to last year and that needs to be addressed BIG TIME. I've seen all three of their games this year and the two that were played in Sweden left me wondering if there were "fake" Wings on the ice - I just didn't see that crisp puck-control and they seemed so slow; however, game #3, last night at The Joe saw the guys emerge a-new and they beat Chicago in a very good game, so...

Hey! Life's good - hockey is back. GO RED WING!............mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 08:59 PM

LOL, where the hell have YOU been then? :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 10 Oct 09 - 12:52 AM

...well, I've been hanging around, but last year I started a hockey thread because I couldn't find the other one, and as I recall, I was sort of called to the carpet for it - so this year I thought it wise to just wait it out with certainty that it would show up.

More bad news for my Wings - Franzen has a torn ACL and will be out until mid-January and that is going to really hurt. Enjoy the weekend hockey and we'll chat down the road. Cheers,.........mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 10 Oct 09 - 08:35 AM

Hay Michael, just finished reading on the Franzen injury. That is some blow. There is no one in the organization that they can bring up to replace this quality player. But it will give management time to have a good look at whoever they insert in the vacant spot than get rid of. Abdelkader has never impressed me. I hope I'm wrong.
"Go Wings GO".
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Oct 09 - 10:27 PM

Pens are vulnerable in ways they do not even begin to realize. One way is for opponents not only yo draw penalties on them, but draw 'em intentionally on our penalty killers. We're already vulnerable on PP, so if our best P-killer is in the box, it might as well be a 5 on 3.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 10 Oct 09 - 10:39 PM

Beer - nice to hear from a fellow Wing-nut! I'm not sure about Abdelkader either, but he did score a couple of needed goals in the finals last year; we'll have to wait and see. There's a nice little bit in today's on-line Freep about May and his new Red Wing number -
and the one he would like to have. Cheers,..............mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Oct 09 - 10:55 PM

Ah, it's time for Fighting On Skates again!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 08:28 AM

Even though the "Broad Street Bullies" have moved to Toronto and become the "Bay St Bullies", the Leafs still suck.

I read an article recently that selected the top 100 sports team logos. They were chosen from all sports including the professional ranks, as well as amature, high school, college and university teams. 3 N.H.L. teams made the top 10 list. Some of you will be happy to know your team was #2, with Chicago Black Hawks being #1.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 09:41 AM

I have written several really good posts over the years here about fighting in hockey, but I'm tired or re-stating them. This year, the first thing I noticed about the fighting in hockey (courtesy of one of our rivals' behavior in their own building) was that with a hockey ticket-- YOU GET TWO SPORTS IN ONE EVENING with one ticket, one dinner out, one babysitter, etc etc etc.

And fans like it. Tough! :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 11 Oct 09 - 10:06 AM

Michael, my thoughts on number 24 is that yes it should be hoisted to the rafters. Chris Chelios hated by many, including myself when he played for the Canadians turned his game completely around when he went to the Wings. His contribution should never be forgotten.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 12 Oct 09 - 12:14 AM

Beer - I, too, would be happy to see Chelly up in the rafters; after all, he spent ten years with the Wings, and frankly, I just love the guy. According to what I read on the Freep page this morning - May called and asked Chelly if it would be o.k. if he (May) wore #24 and Chelios said it would be fine, no problem.

Just an observation here: the family has switched from cable to the
AT&T "U-Verse" set-up for t.v. and internet and we've found that we can get several hockey games a week - including the Red Wings. The other day I was cruising to see what was on and I found a "Classic
Hockey" game on one of the channels - Chicago Blackhawks were playing the Red Wings at the old Olympia. WOW! Howe, Lindsay, Delvecchio(sp), Hull, Hall, Mikita were all playing and the year was 1965. There were several interesting things to observe about the game but the stand-out feature was the complete lack of helmets and/or face masks except for one player - and he was a very young forward.

Kelly and I noticed that there was not a lot of fighting and what fighting did occur was brief and not so intense as it can be today.
We discussed it and concluded that if the players of today didn't have so much body protection they may not play quite as aggressively and might just be not so quick to start a fight; but, then again?

Cheers from Hockeytown South,...............................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Oct 09 - 11:32 AM

We grew up with those Hawks! Oh man.....

Not only the body armor, but the beefed-up muscles and the big bones of today's huge players-- just like a handgun built on a large frame absorbs a lot of kick, so too the larger bodies handle impact differently than small bodies.

I don't doubt the glass/boards systems' technology has changed a lot since the old days, too, to absorb some of the shock. See the way the glass waves around the arena when there's a hit.

In the game we saw last night, we wanted to know the answer to the joking question of the commentators-- when your guy is hit on accident by a TEAMMATE, does the hit register in the stats, and can there be a penalty? :~)

Or, didja ever see 2 current teammates drop the gloves on each other? I'd think the goalie might occasionally like to nail one of his own guys, and vice versa.

~Susan

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Oct 09 - 02:05 PM

Heck, I'll just wait until the streets ice up and go watch the fights outside the Green Tee or the Hi-Ho Bar.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 09:46 AM

"We discussed it and concluded that if the players of today didn't have so much body protection they may not play quite as aggressively and might just be not so quick to start a fight; but, then again?"

"Or, didja ever see 2 current teammates drop the gloves on each other?" Yes! During practice, lots of them! And one of the worst offenders I ever had as a team mate was a goalie!

It's body armor period! I've preached this for years(to those who listen)!

Although I haven't rid myself of my golfing weight(255lbs), I'm still dwarfed by players who weight 100lbs lighter than me because of the equipment they wear.

This past weekend, I officiated in a tourny here in Orillia. Bantam aged players, 15-16 yrs old. They have no fear of injuring their opponents and no respect for the officials. At the end of the Championship game(Orillia vs Fort Erie), there was a two separated fights that started. As officials, we are not to break up fights alone. "Wait for your partner". As two of the players were getting pummeled, I stepped in to separate one fight and my oldest son took the other. BIG MISTAKE! A third man jumped into my fight and then a fourth jumped on him. Now I'm trying to separate four players who are all throwing hay makers with their gloves still on. I probably got punched in the head 6-8 times. Now in cases such as this one, the Referee's job is to stand back, with his riot pad in hand, and start taking numbers. He was too busy holding back the benches, because we were very close to a bench clearing battle. So, those that should have had the rule book shoved up their asses got away with most of what they did on the ice. Now we get one team off the ice and they remain outside their dressing room waiting for the other team. "Get in your room", was met with F-this, F-that, Suck my ----, F-you. In all my years of hockey, 45+, I'm not sure I was ever so close to loosing it!
Welcome to another season of minor hockey!(maybe my last)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 10:22 AM

[hysterical laffing]

OK-- trying to get serious-- Are you saying that some of the fighting in hockey stems from TEENAGE HORMONES????

(And thus is it possible that some of the lack of respect mirrors the societal trend to treat kids as adults?????)

And then when they grow up to play in the NHL they fight!?!?!?!? THERE's a shock, eh.

(I actually never thought of that!)


Hardi will LOVE LOVE LOVE your description above.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 10:37 AM

Well I'm not laughing at all and I don't think that 3refs meant it to be as a laughing matter. My grand son of 10 took a deliberate slash behind the knee on Saturday. Yes the kid got two minutes but it should have went further in that the child who did the deliberate slash should have met with both coaches and my grand son(grand son aside.) after the game.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 12:09 PM

What's funny about it is-- if you have raised boys, this kind of stuff goes on all the time.

Of course it's NOT funny as hockey ed, or for 3refs to have had a hard time.

What else is funny about it (to me) is that with strokebrain, I had forgotten some of the more memorable boy-romps at my house when I added a new stepbrother to a houseful of boys and their rowdy uncles. Who one day tossed a wayward lad into the shower to cool him down, all in good, rowdy fun which changed incipient REAL violence to comedy.

In strokebrain, the post above drew me a quick picture of Jarkko Ruutu tossing a wayward lad into a shower. It cracked me up before I could take it apart to articulate it HERE. (So sue me)

I like to define for myself what is funny-- don't we all? :~)

Unrepentantly busy,

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 12:24 PM

... or for a kid to get HURT. NOt funny.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 13 Oct 09 - 09:59 PM

We sure took a shit kicking tonight Michael.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 01:44 PM

You know, Beer, I think we're in for a long season - they looked so bad last night that the Griffins might have kicked their ass. Yeah, that was terrible and disgusting and rotten and sickening all wrapped up in one and very hard to swallow; but, I took a moment out to recall the drubbing we handed Patrick Roy and the Avalanche in the playoffs a few years back 7-0 - Wings! I guess anyone can do anything on any given night, but still, I don't like the looks of this team right now at all. One of my favorite Irish bands is a group called, Three Men and a Dog, and last night that's what our guys looked like - even Lids stunk up the ice, and that's rare.
We'll get 'em next time. GO RED WINGS! Cheers,.............mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 11:50 PM

Stars beat the Preds tonight and that's a good thing for the Wings because they live on our block - any time someone from out block loses it's a good thing, but 6-0? Seems to be a lot of goals scored early on this year; I've not kept track over the years, but is this a normal thing for early in the season or are the goalies napping? Cheers,....mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: meself
Date: 14 Oct 09 - 11:53 PM

Okay, to cheer everybody up - I'm not much of a hockey fan, but check out this nine-year-old from Maine.

That's right: nine years old. Keep your eye on him.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 15 Oct 09 - 07:24 AM

The Leafs still suck!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 18 Oct 09 - 10:56 PM

Wasn't a shit kicking last night but the wings sure did blow one.
"Go Wings", in the right direction.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 21 Oct 09 - 12:45 AM

Just thought I'd refresh this thing before it disappears.
Beer - yeah, you are right, that was a tough one to lose, unfortunately, I'd bet that there will be many of those this year that will end up able to go either way. Hold on to your horses - could be a bouncy ride this year. Cheers,................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 01:42 AM

Well, here's a refreshing thought - the Red Wings finally won a road game and Datsyuk got two goals tonight. Wings win 5-4 over Luongo and company. YAAAAAY! Go Red Wings. Cheers,..............Michael

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 08:51 AM

They never truly disappear. I'll tend it more closely, too, as soon as the dogfencing and funerals here end.

GO PENS!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 12:43 AM

Funerals here, too - not a happy thing, for sure. Love to all, sometimes we really need it. GO RED WINGS! Cheers,............mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 10:47 AM

Aw, nice. Hardi's out doing two today (masked, with swine flu), while others are taking the weekend's scheduled services. That means the two patients here will be able to watch a game, live, tonight, for a change.

Last night the Pens tried to give a game to the Blue Jackets but the BJs declined and handed it back. Could not believe we won it in the last 5 minutes of the game/SO. With many best-players missing. They will have to do it all over again tonight.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 01:16 PM

"Hello, Canada, and hockey fans in the United States and Newfoundland."

Tonight is a Canadian Classic!

The Leafs still suck!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 04:13 PM

Does anyone know where Mike Zigomanis went? Google fails me.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 11:09 AM

Well, here's another refresher - Wings beat Sharks at the Joe 2-1 in a shootout with Datsyuk and Zetterberg both scoring on Nabby to win it. Wings played well for the entire game.

My birthday is coming up and I've got a Red Wing sweater coming with name and number on it just in time for the December and January games with the Stars at the A2C in Dallas. Much fun. GO RED WINGS!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 11:49 AM

Watched the game thanks to bobad who sent me a web site that I can get the Wings every time they play. Helm was something in that game eh! What speed and he is just getting healthy.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 07:07 PM

Beer - thanks for the tip on the website, you never know when it'll come in handy. We've got this AT&T thing down here called, U-Verse and we get FSD (Fox Sports Detroit) but we don't get the games. We get the pre/post game shows but not the actual game; which, would stink if not for the fact that they rebroadcast the game later that night, so I tape it and watch it in the morning with all of the ability to rewind, replay, pause, etc.

You're right, Helm played very well. I'm not as worried as some of the Freep readers up north - I think the guys are going to be just fine; it's a new and different team from last year and they are working the kinks out while sticking to the system that has kept this ship sailing so well for so long.

GO RED WINGS - RAKE THOSE LEAVES TONIGHT! Cheers,..........mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 07:25 PM

Pens have really looked lackluster without Malkin, Gonchar, Kennedy, and Talbot. The scoring is there, but not the sparkle.

Lucky they're doiong as well as they are with no POWER PLAY! I suppose I should be grateful there haven' been a slew of shorties....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,3refs
Date: 08 Nov 09 - 07:01 AM

The Leafs don't suck quite as much today!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 08 Nov 09 - 07:49 AM

That's because they played a junior team last night. What a disgrace for the wings. Plus another serious injury.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 08 Nov 09 - 10:36 AM

Having completely given up on the Ottawa Senators, I decided to give two teams a chance, Carolina and Pittsburgh. Carolina because they play 120 miles away in Raleigh. Pittsburgh because they are the most exciting team with the most exciting young players.

Carolina is dead last in the league. Pittsburgh is tied for first in the conference. Rumors of Penguin demise seem exaggerated.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 08 Nov 09 - 10:38 AM

Leafs fans should cheer long and hard every time they beat the Wings. After all, how many chances will they get to do that?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 08 Nov 09 - 12:16 PM

If what I'm reading is correct, the Leafs and Wings are finished playing each other for this regular season.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 08 Nov 09 - 11:16 PM

Personally, I think that it is just criminal that the "Original Six" teams do not play each other with frequency - much frequency.

Beer - I'm beginning to think that the Wings are this year's Dallas Stars who went from injury to injury to injury last year and then turned around and fired the coach. No, no implication here that Mike will be fired. Dallas brought in a new GM and he appointed his "guy" to the head coaching spot.

~S~ your guys will be o.k., but like the Wings, if "injuryitis" sets in, why it just erodes everything for a year. Cheers,.........mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Nov 09 - 09:23 AM

Thanks, MWH, but the suckification is well under way.

Condolences,

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 09 Nov 09 - 11:45 AM

Are the Wings still among the oldest teams in the league? (average player age)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 10 Nov 09 - 12:51 AM

GUEST,jts - I do believe that the Wings are one of the oldest teams in the league, but, with young guys like Helm, Abdelkader, Ericksson, Leino and some others, I think we'll be in the hunt for quite a while yet to come. On the other side, Datsyuk and Zetterberg are not exactly in wheelchairs, nor is Cleary. I like our mixture of youth and age (experience) and believe that maintaining that balance is part of keeping a winning tradition going,...we'll see. GO RED WINGS!.........................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 17 Nov 09 - 10:37 PM

Had to refresh this before it got lost.
~S~ I read today that the Pens lost another player to injury - seems like "injury" is like a virus going around the NHL these days. Well, let's all keep our collective chins up for fewer injuries and some great hockey. Cheers,...GO RED WINGS!.....................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 18 Nov 09 - 12:28 PM

Thanks, MWH. We get one back though. After getting another one back last couple of games-- which got us back on the woin and off the PP schneid.

ALL the guys coming back are the sparkle players.

Look out now!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 19 Nov 09 - 04:22 PM

We get another coupla sparklers back tonight (Talbot, Gonchar), but another two are freshly down and out. Farm team D's are doing great, fortunately.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 19 Nov 09 - 10:35 PM

Well i came close. I picked the Sens as a 6-4 winner against the Pens.

Here is a question which I'm sure has a simple answer but i do not know it.

If I score on my own goaltender, do i get a point for that terrible afford? Or does it go to the last player on the other team who touched the puck? I'm not kidding, I really don't know the answer. Who gets the point??
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:52 AM

Are they F....ing blind in Toronto where they review goals?????
What a terrible call. The score was 2-1 at the time for Dallas. This goal would have tied the game and the end results could very well have been different. I will never again trust their decision.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 09:09 AM

LOL, Ad. Pore ole Pens.

Re: Points, I think we will have to wait for a ruling from 3refs, but he's tied up now with his mother's situation. I THINK the point goes to the last opponent to touch puck, because that would make sense, but-- ???

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 09:12 AM

You're right there Ad, they was robbed. Do you think that the fact that the video reviews are done in Toronto had anything to do with that decision?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 09:25 AM

Totally Bobad(do you hear someone talking about me!!. I'm not paranoid.). Not really though. Your right about 3refs Susan.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 12:17 PM

Ad,

'lessen somebuddy wants to check the NHL Rulebook-- no time, here today.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:02 PM

"If I score on my own goaltender, do i get a point for that terrible afford? Or does it go to the last player on the other team who touched the puck? I'm not kidding, I really don't know the answer. Who gets the point??"



If you are talking about points in the the NHL statistics it is the last player to touch the puck that gets credit for the goal. If the last player to touch the puck on either team got credit I'd bet that the goalie of most teams would be the leading scorer. Remember when Gretzky used to bank it in off the goalies' butts?

If you score on your own net the only stat you get is a negative point on your plus/minus.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 03:19 PM

Jack, you mean the last player on the other team that touches the puck, right?
Makes sense to me.
Thanks jack
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 04:54 PM

Yes, its the last player on the opposing team that gets credit.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 11:13 PM

Well, Happy Birthday to me! What a cool surprize; I opened up an envelope today and found that my brother had sent me down a bunch of stuff from the Free Press on Ernie Harwell - the grand voice of the Detroit Tigers from my childhood. Not to elaborate here, but I got to meet Ernie on his farewell tour some years ago and it was just a thrill of a life-time. I just love the man.

Oh, yes, lest I forget, also included in the envelope was a Detroit Red Wings jersey shirt with the #5 and Lidstrom on the back. My wife wears 40-Zetterberg and I wear 13-Datsyuk and we both have voiced that if we got another one it would be Lidstrom. Way to go Tim - great stuff!

Beer - you're right - stinking, stupid call. Cheers,.......mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 08:23 AM

Well a very Big Happy Birthday to you Michael. Those gifts sound great and very appropriate for a Wing Nut.
Many more to come.
Adrien

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 09:56 AM

HB, MWH!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 12:25 AM

O.k., enough is enough; let's cease with all this nonsese and horse shit. A cheap shot by a gutless Hab up in Montreal and now Nicklas Kronwell is out for at least two or three weeks with one of his knee ligaments damaged. Thanks a lot bucky - you s.o.b.

Any more injuries and I will write Mike Babcock and suggest that we send the Wings over to Grand Rapids and bring the Griffins here; what the hell, everyone with a winged-wheel is going on the injured list any way - one by one.

~S~ and Beer - thanks for the B-day wishes.

GO RED WINGS! Cheers,.........................mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 08:40 AM

Has to start with coaches defining what kinds of hits make them smile and what kind don't. It's all about ice time and who gets it. GMs can send that message too, at contract talks time, and by who they keep and don't keep. ALL of our teams have done the same type of hit for which we are now castigating a Hab-- if we admit it, we know this is true at some point in our teams' histories (if not now).

There has never been a team called the "Lady Byngs." If there were a whole team that played THAT clean, there'd be an award for it I am sure.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 06:29 PM

Do y'all'ses teams do this stuff?

http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=507096&navid=DL|PIT|home

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Nov 09 - 09:24 AM

Folks, I think our hockey-buddy could use a PM or two:

(((3refs)))

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,Bobert in Charlotte
Date: 26 Nov 09 - 11:45 AM

Here we go again...

Caps tear thru the regular season, amass the best record in the NHL and then lose to the friggin' Penguins in the playoffs... This is alot like Lucy snatching the football away as Charlie Brown tries to kick it... No, it's more like watchin' a snake eat a mouse...

Ya'll try being a DC sports fan fir a decade 'er so an' you will have some insight into why we all expect the worst... It's because we've had a 2 decade diet of the worst...

(But, Boberdz... Didn't DC United win a championship about 10 years ago???)

I donno... Did they???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 10:04 PM

Hey, Caps' Varlamov knocked out by team-mate's frustrated attack on crossbar?

What do we know about THIS?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 10:11 PM

Sorry, our guy gave us a bum steer. VOKOUN.

Vokoun OK after scary moment
Tuesday, 12.01.2009 / 1:00 PM / News
By Dan Rosen - NHL.com Staff Writer
The video is just about everywhere now, but the only thing that matters is Florida Panthers goalie Tomas Vokoun is OK after getting whacked in the head by teammate Keith Ballard's stick in the first period of Monday's 4-3 loss to the Atlanta Thrashers.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/newsindex.htm#?navid=nav-nws-hdlines

Video, with commentary.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 10:12 PM

More:

Ballard swung his stick in frustration after Ilya Kovalchuk scored 8:54 into the first period to give the Thrashers a 2-1 lead. Using a baseball-type swing, he was trying to break his stick over the goal in frustration but instead caught Vokoun in the side of the head.

Neither the Panthers nor the NHL will discipline Ballard for his actions.

"It's a non-factor," DeBoer said. "This guy was visibly shaken and upset by the incident in the game. When we found out that Tomas was going to be fine I think he gutted it out and played the rest of the night for us. Tomas got on the plane and they had a chance to chat and sit together and there were no hard feelings.

"It's unfortunate. We don't condone it. I think organization's biggest issue now is getting the message out to the kids watching the game that it was a heat-of-the-moment play and it's not how you want to handle your frustrations. I'm sure Keith won't do it again and we're moving forward."

Ballard's night got worse as Maxim Afinogenov's game-winning goal deflected off his stick and into the net with only 5.5 seconds left in the contest.

"Obviously Keith has had some tough games the last few and the team has been losing and you see that frustration boil over in all different ways, whether it's guys taking penalties, whether it's yelling on the bench, yelling in the dressing room or whether it's slamming his stick after a goal," DeBoer said. "This one had some consequences."

DeBoer said no one on the Panthers' bench immediately realized what happened after Kovalchuk scored.

"Our trainers had to be called a couple of times because I don't think anybody on the bench realized what happened," DeBoer said. "I don't even think Keith realized he hit him. If you watch the video, he proceeded to hit his stick one more time after he hit Tomas and that tells me he didn't know."

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Dec 09 - 12:34 PM

Yah hey dere, eh.

3refs might be back with us, eh.

Pens got D-pairings back now that injuries are better, eh.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 19 Dec 09 - 10:27 AM

David was in his 5th grade class when the teacher asked the
children what their fathers did for a living.

All the typical answers?came up - fireman, policeman, salesman, etc.

David was being uncharacteristically quiet and so the teacher asked
him about his father. 'My father's an exotic dancer in a gay bar and takes off all his clothes in front of other men.

Sometimes, if the offer's really good, he'll go out to the alley with some guy and make love with him for money.'

The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the
other children to work on some colouring, and took little David aside to ask him, 'Is that really true about your father?'

'No,' said David, 'He plays for the Toronto Maple Leafs but I was
too embarrassed to say that in front of the other kids.'

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 09:05 AM

That was a deep cut!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 09:09 AM

2-0 against Boston last night and 4 points out of a playoff spot.
Things are looking much better for the Buds!

Back on the ice myself tonight. Can't remember the last time I reffed.

Go Leafs Go!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 01:34 PM

Oh, I wish I had heard The Cherry!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 08:53 PM

Welcome back Refferoonie!

GO PENS!

(LOL at that joke. Any team name will do!)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 21 Dec 09 - 12:21 AM

O.k., so now Zetterberg is out and the count is now EIGHT starters out of the line-up for the Red Wings. Sounds like the Dallas Stars of last year. Oh, well,...Merry Christmas everyone.........mwh

oh, yeah, nice joke, gnu!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 10:45 AM

Friends, I know some of you were aware when our hockey-pal 3refs had some recent troubles, and I'm refreshing this now to be sure none of you missed this thread up in the music section:

Michael Harrison - Singer and Cancer.

Go MWH! Go Wings! (I'm sorry I didn't get to this sooner. Yer been in my prayers.)

===

Also, damn my Pens for pissing away ydy's lead (Caps, aaaargh!)! But Faulkner is now learning to WATCH TV and is learning the scorer's names. He reminded me ydy that he may be getting creakey-- but that he can still use his MIND and he's BORED!

===

Does anyone agree with me that sometimes, there may be some WWF-type theatrics involved in NHL games?

===

3refs, we have a new "juniors" question here at home for you. Are you ready for a new Q&A thread on hockey, if I start one, or would you rather field such questions here?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:31 AM

3refs, we have a new "juniors" question here at home for you. Are you ready for a new Q&A thread on hockey, if I start one, or would you rather field such questions here?

~Susan
(refresh)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:16 AM

You can post it here.
Remember that referees don't like the idea of too many people knowing "all" the rules. Too much of the right information, in the wrong hands, can be a dangerous thing!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:21 AM

:~)

The question isn't so much a rules thing, more of a systemic/structure thing. I gotta collect my thoughts....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:30 AM

I'll put my seatbelt on!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:59 AM

Naw it'll be easy for YOU, ref, it will only be hard for ME: srokebrain, lack of growing up in Canadian hockey culture, lack of vocab to cover question.....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 01:37 PM

OK. I'll take a stab at drafting "a question." This would go SO MUCH BETTER during a game intermission with a coupla beers! Or Beers! :~)


When NHLers say "juniors" do they mean all one league/age group/country?

Is WHL at the same level as Rimouskie? (Is Rimouskie also St. Mary's? I'm thinking Crosby thoughts there, have I got it right?)

Are under-18 players in "juniors"?

Is college hockey equal in any way to any level of juniors?

Is one's playing slot due to age or skill? Or is there a tiered system like NHL fed by AHL fed by ECHL, inside the juniors system? Do they compete into those slots?

Do NHL-drafted players get sent back to "juniors" likek Jordan Staal was maybe going to be, but then sent back up or do they have to then rise up thru the ranks of the pro leagues, and if so what determines at what level they start-- do they have to go to the ECHL first and then get sucked upwards to fill an open AHL slot for a game or two, or can they just be plucked out of juniors and signed for whatever level suddently scouts them as "ready?"

Is there a time or age limit on how long they can be in juniors before whatever NHL rights or contracts expire-- I'm remembering something from the Malkin thing where I think I recall he had to be in his draft team's NHL uniform by such and such date or his something would expire-- his draft status maybe?

My head hurts.


Is it really just as simple as "training camp" invites from scouting reports? Maybe it is, but then what are the contract implications, limitations, expectations?

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 07:25 PM

I wish you guys would stop rubbing it in. Five stopped showing NHL live halfway through last season, and hasn't shown anything this season. At least the Beeb will be showing Norway v Canada during the Winter Olympics (and hopefully a few more games later on)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 08:59 PM

1-When they refer to Jr's, they usually mean the "Canadian Hockey League" which is the Ontario Hockey League, Western Hockey League and Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. It does have teams that play out of the U.S.A. They also have Tier 2 Jr A(with some U.S. teams), Jr B and Jr C. They are all stepping stones to Major Jr. Some kids go right from Midget(usually AAA)to Major Jr. Lots of scouts at Bantam AAA games because that's when they get drafted to Major Jr.

2-Yes there are under 18's in Major Jr.

3-Very very few go directly from Jr to the N.H.L.

4-I would say University and College hockey is on par with Tier 2 Jr A. Age difference though. Up to 21 for Jr, and I think it's 25-30 for school hockey. But if you can make it to Major Jr, you go(almost without exception.

5- At the minor-pro level, if your not under contract to anyone, you can try and get a tryout in just about any league anywhere on the planet. If your under contract, you go where your told.

6-When drafted out of Jr, the team has two years to sign you to a contract, or you go back into the draft. Many players go undrafted, but still make it to the N.H.L. signed as free agents.

I coached a kid who was John Taveres' center in his last year of Jr with the Oshawa Generals. He's now playing in Texas.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:46 PM

I understood about 80% of that. I'll sleep on it. I hope nobody elbows me in the bed tho.

Thanks!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 09:56 PM

Good to see you back ref.
and Tex, if your vewing this thread i hope to hear from you soon as well.
Adrien

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 15 Mar 10 - 11:40 PM

I was going to start a separate thread on what I have to say but than thought differently on it.
I am disgusted, disgusted, disgusted, on the powers that be of handing out suspensions. Ovenschin(sp.) deserved a hell of a lot more than two game. I love the player but this is a pure money thing(star players get off easy.).
The situation with the Cooke incident the same thing. Excuse me , but un fucking acceptable.

I love hockey and it would hurt it Zenburg(no time to check spelling .) or Paval were out for awhile for a hit, but it has to be done to star players and in big time fashion. A game suspension here or game there to set an example is completely out of context. It fucking doesn't work.
Here is the answer in my opinion.
If it is viewed to be a hit with intent(viewed by camera's,control center, ref's, players,coaches or whatever.), than it should be an eye for an eye. If Campbell is out for the season than Ov., on his deliberate push/hit should also be out for the rest of the season. There are very few star players but Ovenchin is one. However if the league wants to set an example than let it start now. If not, than I guess i can always turn off the telly.
What a f....f.... mess. What are these so call intellects doing. Are their heads up a camel ass?
Adrien( a die hard hockey up set fan.)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 03:56 PM

Soooo... what's the scoop on the blind side hit rule change? I refuse to watch Talkboutssportsfortenhoursandnotshowanygames on This Sucks Now network.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 10:24 PM

Just thought I'd drop in and make a formal announcement to the effect that the RED WINGS ARE BACK! Wings 3 / Pens 1. Not just because of tonight, but the last few weeks it's been coming on slowly but surely as the team has gotten healthy and started to recognize each other as a TEAM again - and it is beautiful to watch. My man - Datsyuk, the Prince of Thieves. Great game tonight - better because we won - but a great game was played, sharp and intense.

I'm glad this game was tonight because I start another chemo session soon and will probably miss the next one. Hello to all my hockey friends! Great game, isn't it? GO RED WINGS!...........Harrison

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 10:37 PM

Hi Micheal. What a game indeed. Man did they look great. I agree they are finally getting it together and certainly hope the push continues. Good luck with the Chemo shit. Just remember that when your real down to type in "Red Wings" and it will lift you up. Nothing in the mail as yet???
Adrien

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 22 Mar 10 - 11:14 PM

Gnu,
Not sure what the final ruling was.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 23 Mar 10 - 08:42 AM

There's one very simple reason and one somewhat more complicated, as to why you see all the cheap-shots and head-shots in all of hockey, not just the N.H.L. No fighting and they dress them up like gladiators! Most days through the hockey season I see "bone-skinny" kids walk through the doors of an arena, only to see them 1/2 later looking more like a Bradley Tank!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 24 Mar 10 - 08:20 AM

You make a very good point Ref. As to children all done up, I have a grand child of 11 that is just skin and bones but when in his armor, he looks like a Charles Atlas.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Mar 10 - 11:40 AM

I doubt that it is the armor that is teaching them bad sportsmanship.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 08:38 AM

I've dealt with literally hundreds...thousands of coaches/bench staff, players, officials and fans for over 50+ years in many sports, in many capacities and I can honestly say I don't think you can teach bad sportsmanship to someone who doesn't have it in them. I do however think you can nurture it in those who do.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 25 Mar 10 - 02:01 PM

Since it's short, here is the press...

TORONTO - The NHL's modified rule on blindsided hits to the head has finally received approval.

The NHL Players' Association released a statement Thursday saying that its executive board supported the endorsement of the five player representatives on the competition committee.

The temporary rule will give league disciplinarian Colin Campbell the power to hand out supplementary discipline for head hits on unsuspecting players for the remainder of the regular season and playoffs.

The institution of a permanent rule that includes an on-ice penalty - something NHL general managers recommended two weeks ago - will be discussed over the summer by the competition committee.

Thursday's announcement brought a peaceful end to a potential disagreement between the league and players' union over how rules should be instituted.

The NHLPA said in a statement that it hopes to keep working with the league to make the game safer.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 28 Mar 10 - 03:50 PM

Just finished watching an eleven round shoot-out between Nashville and Detroit - RED WINGS WIN! The boys are back and firing with all guns ablaze. All is right in Hockeytown, and a Wings win always makes the cancer battle go a little smoother. Cheers,......harrison

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 03:50 PM

That game was something else.
Go Wings.
Ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 29 Mar 10 - 09:49 PM

Adrien - we gotta keep this thing going since it's virtually playoff hockey right now with so many teams competing for a spot. Come on back in folks, let's spice this thing back up. GO RED WINGS! mwh

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 04:06 AM

"it's virtually playoff hockey right now with so many teams competing for a spot"

And my team is once again awaiting their spot between the Tee Blocks!

Although, Orillia did have two teams win Provincial Titles at home over the week-end. The Minor Atoms defeated Fort Erie and the Major Pee Wee team finally put Riverside(Sarnia)to rest!(they had to play game 6 of a 5 game series)

It was a nice way to say "good-bye" to our old barn. After 60 years and many National and Provincial Titles in hockey and lacrosse, I'm sure I saw tears running down her walls!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 02:36 PM

I'm just refreshing this thing because the Wings are up tonight and this week is a chemo week for me; which, means that I usually don't sleep very well so I'll watch the replay on FSD that usually comes on around midnight here in Hockeytown South. GO RED WINGS!......harrison

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 03:14 PM

Michael, why not go here http://www.atdhe.net/index.html

and watch them live. There has been only one time this year that I have not been able to make a connection. Give it a try. I'll be watching.
Adrien

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Mar 10 - 05:21 PM

There sure are a lot of Wings fans!

Maybe that's just sour grapes on my part. The Canes suck this year and I quit cheering for the Senators last year. So I don't really have a team to root for.

Speaking of sour Grapes.. He's not actually sour, just crusty. >rimshot!!@<

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 08:38 AM

Wings make it a 6 game winning streak. Tops in the NHL next to Ottawa who has 5.
Your Senators are doing well Bobad.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 02:02 PM

It just wouldn't seem right for me to jump back on the Sens bandwagon again even if they are #5. Besides, I don't know half the players, though I always liked Chechoo and was not such a fan of Heatly.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 31 Mar 10 - 03:18 PM

Adrien, yes, I was watching, "NFL On The Fly," and they were covering the highlights, but with the tie score in the third, I went I line to see what could be pulled up and WHA-LAA, I found that sight. I'll tell you, my friend, I am not going to count the Wings out until the final second has ticked off. Things are just happening and happening. Things are going well in Hockeytown. Let's enjoy.
GO RED WINGS!.....................michael

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Apr 10 - 01:23 PM

I'm watching The Wings and Flyers on NBC.

How about that Jimmy Howard?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,Wys cookie broken
Date: 06 Apr 10 - 09:47 AM

Hey, gang, I been away for Lenten discipline. Good to see all a youse guys. I missed ya!

Do we wanna start an extra thread for the playoffs or just let this one run?


Also I have a little auction idear (Cup-related) for MWH's hockey pals. Folks interested please PM so I can fine-tune my thinking offthread and then we'll go with it.

GO PENS!

Go MWH!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 09:33 PM

Felt bad for the guy (can't remember off hand his name)in the shoot out for New York Rangers who missed resulting in the Rangers being eliminated. What a burden to carry. hope he gets pissed tonight and passes out so he will get some sleep. Does not seem fair to have all this placed on one player for an end result.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 05:51 PM

That's why "shoot-outs" are no way to end a hockey game, but I know they're necessary(and exciting).

If I had my way, they'd make the goalies shoot against each other.

Other than that, how we do it in minor hockey is the two shooters shoot at the same time(going in opposite directions). One on each side of the center ice face-off circle. That way neither the shooters or the goalies knows who the fans are screaming at!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 08:51 PM

Wow!! that is interesting.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,Guest: Michael Harrison on wife's computer
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 09:34 AM

Hey Dats, Zee, Lids, Raffi, Mule, Homer, etal - GO RED WINGS!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 13 Apr 10 - 10:43 PM

Michael,
It all starts tomorrow evening. I don't think I'll catch to much of it as it is a late start. Will be watching most of the Wash. Canadian series as it should be a good one. Canadians have had wash. number all year. Should be a good one.
"Go Wings Go"
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 14 Apr 10 - 10:01 PM

Wow, don't know if my heart will hold out if the rest of the Ottawa - Pittsburg series plays out like tonight's game, it was a hard fought, cliffhanger of a game.

Go Sens!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 14 Apr 10 - 10:54 PM

Bobad,
I just came in from my work shop where I listened to the game on the radio. I came on line to revive the thread and say the following; "Bobad must be in his glory. Probably smoking a great big cigar and drinking some Plonk Wine. Or else he is in la la land savoring tonight's win".
Just checked in on the Wings and after the first period they are up 2/1 against the Coyotes. To early to get excited.

Good luck to your Sens Bobad. I suppose I should say the same to Susan and her Pens. Good luck Susan.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 07:08 AM

See Auction. Gonna make it real when Max sez it's fixed. Till then, use the play-thread there. I actually have a Cup. Extra points awarded for good repartee there to aid MWH's recovery.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 02:46 PM

Thanks, Susan - much appreciated.
To the Red Wings - NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO - NO!
1. You cannot score on a PP when you're playing in your end
2. You cannot win if you only play hard the first two periods
3. What happened to your PK? Did you leave it at The Joe?
4. Zee - what happened to ya? Did I miss you some how?
5. Refs - I usually don't ever fault you, but you stunk this game.

Again, Susan, I was at the online version of The Hockey News yesterday and there was a voting ballot for the best player in the league for this year. I looked at all of the candidates and to my chagrin there were no Red Wings on it, so I settled for a choice between Ovechkin and Crosby - yes, Crosby. Now, I like Ovie more than Sidney, but I have to say, there's been a turnaround in my heart and I've come to accept SC as a damned good player and I'm over the NHL having shoved him down my throat. Well, the long and the short of it is that I cast my vote for Crosby; while I do like Ovie and his flamboyant attitude, I couldn't get past my feeling that Crosby is a more complete player than Ovie. So there, I can make adult decisions after all despite still being a child after all these years. Good luck to your Pens and remember - GO RED WINGS!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,Guest: MWH on wife's computer
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 09:37 PM

Well, I forgot to sign in above, but it's just me; but then, Beer knew that didn't you Adrien? Cheers,......................harrison

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 09:43 PM

I sure did Buddy.
Great game tonight with the Canadians and was. Going into overtime.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 10:18 PM

Another upset.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 11:26 AM

MWH, nicely done. SC did need to grow up a tad, anyway. :~)

I've asked Joe Offer if he will do me the favor of closing this thread when I start MWH's "Lord Stanley's Cup" auction-- it will save me having to PM everyone to ask nicely to move to a new Playoffs thread I'm about to start. But you all can help me now while I wait for Joe to respond, by letting this thread drop off the day's threadlist and posting now in the one I am about to start. I'll start it with a word about what I plan in the Auction. Feel free to chime in or PM with any ideas how to have even more fun while we raise a boodle for MWH's cancer recovery.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 11:48 AM

Here's the new thread, WITH MWH AUCTION:

CLICK!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 07:41 PM

GO HABS GO!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 07:51 PM

Wow! Look at them go.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 09:54 PM

What goal tending. Good for Montreal.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 10:07 PM

Yup, Halak stood on his head tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 10:10 PM

Sorry to interupt ya'll Canooks celebration but guess what???

Give up???

The Caps are just playin' with ya'll...

Ya'll see in Game 7...

Gonna be lights out fir yer guys...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 10:22 PM

Hay Bobert!
I live in Quebec and Canadian I am, but not a Montreal Canadian fan. Die hard Red Wing and were up against a young exciting team.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Becca72
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 08:04 AM

I'm gonna sit over here next to Bobert and keep my fingers crossed...


Caps!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:23 AM

Over in the other thread someone boo-boo'd on a series status, and thought (prematurely) the Wings were out. I did the same a few days earlier (and fined myself in the Auction), with the Habs/Caps series.

In past years I had time to post periodic series-status updates, matchups, etc. This year I don't, if anyone else can take it on so we don't crow or grieve early! :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Becca72
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 01:03 PM

I've been a Caps fan too long to get my hopes up.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 03:10 PM

I'll do it.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 03:32 PM

Well, I hafta say, I'd rather see more Habs action, Becca. It is long overdue... but I wish all our teams the best.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 04:00 PM

23:00h!!! I don't even know if I can stay up late enought to tape it. Have fun Wingnuts

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Becca72
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 04:11 PM

Having a winning team in Washington is way more overdue than in Montreal, IMO. Caps went to the finals that one time 12 years ago...

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 05:24 PM

Yes.... but the Habs "ARE" hockey.....

Jes' sayin'....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 06:05 PM

And, every year the Habs don't win a cup is too long for Les Habs fans that remember years past. But, the game, the league, has changed. For the better. Except for the fighting... I still wish the NHL would get VERY serious about "dirty" stuff. Fights will never go away, but the dirty stuff should be dealt with harshly.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 06:12 PM

Gnu.
I get Detroit playing at 9 so you should get them at 10.
As far as the Habs go I hope they loose. They don't deserve to go to the next round. Halack(sp.) does but not the rest of the team. I want to see more of Ove and his skill playing.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 08:51 PM

Big game tonight for you Wingers, good luck.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:45 PM

YES!!
Michael, I hope you were able to watch the game.
Go you lovely WINGS go.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 06:48 AM

Well, Rogers TV listings said 11PM... but, even at 10PM, if I did toy with watching the first period, well, I know what could happen.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 11:26 AM

OK, I confess, we went to bed (due to work priorities) before the Wings game ended, and I came here to look and see who the heck advanced..... oh! OK..... will see it finish when we get home late tonight.

I also hope MWH was "with us," and PMed him early in the game with some good Auction news.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 04:05 PM

What's the good auction news that you sent him?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 04:06 PM

Sorry... I was so excited about the good news that I forgot to say...

GO HABS GO!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 08:49 PM

Oh me zon, me zon... I don't understand the tired legs of these lads on the Habs defense, but I guess I can accept it because that is one hellovalotta skatin! End to end and all points in between. Of course, when I was a lad, I woulda outskated them all put together. Of course... >;-)

I love it! No chippy shit... just FAST hockey! A joy to watch good clean fast hockey.

GO HABS GO!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:29 PM

Major upset in the making.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:31 PM

Well now, this should be some finish.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:43 PM

I'm still shaking my head. What an upset. Congratulations to the Canadians and Gnu.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 10:01 PM

It was an upset. But, when that elbow in the face near the end wasn't called I knew the Habs were gonna win. I just knew they had to win. Just because of that dirty shot and the lack of a call.

I was yelling at the Habs goalie in the final seconds to take one more "step" behind his goal and fire the puck at the empty net but he did the right thing. He wasn't watching the game in my living room so he didn't have my view of the ice. He did the "right thing" all game... he won the game for the Habs.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 01:22 AM

Oh NO! We're NEXT!

Go Pens!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 07:29 AM

It looks like I get to keep my Canadiens stuff out.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 03:04 PM

If Les Habs win, I'll... I'll... drink a Molson's.

Juuust kidding.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 04:11 PM

BTW... anyone following the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League? Moncton, New Brunswick and Saint John, New Brunswick are in the final.

GO CATS GO!

No tickets to be had... sniff.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 05:14 PM

Win What Gnu? The next game, series, cup? If they win the cup, I'll buy you a 24 of that Molson p.... and come down to watch you give up your Bud.
How's that.
ad.
"Go Wings Go"

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 05:36 PM

Beer... the cup. Anything less is rather Stanley, no? (Ya gotta know Canuck sports to get that reference to "Grey" nd even then take a big jump.)

As far as you comin down here, I would think you would bring some Bud p*** for that. I'll put on the dog again, if I am able. Call before you come.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Bobert
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 09:04 PM

It sucks being a DC sports fan... Here we had a shot but...

... hey, it's DC sports where other than 2 superbowls a long time ago we've gone thru 4 to 5 decades of sucky pro-sports teams... I mean, I don' think there is another major city that is as snakebit as DC... Bullets, Wizzards, Redskins, Nationals, Sebnators, Caps, United... They all suck and have sucked since before Columbus found the New World and should life as we know it come to an abrupt end, they will continue to suck even after that...

But, like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football while Lucy pulls it away, we will continue to root for one losing team after another until we die...

But this sucks...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 29 Apr 10 - 09:32 PM

I feel for you Bobert. I went through a dry period when Ned Harkness came into Detroit and destroyed the club. It took years to recuperate. Toronto is also having a hell of a time getting up there but their fans never give up. Hopefully next year they will take it a notch or two further up the scale. At least make the Play Offs.
ad.
back to the game. Sharks 1--Det.0

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 05:53 PM

With the DVR, I lost track of which games we have seen "all" of (and sometimes we speedwatch, LOL), but the Habs/Caps game was really fun and even tho I knew how it would end, it still caught me by surprise.

But the end of the first Wings series we REALLY liked-- so great to see the Wings finally play their game.

So tonight (despite the usual Versus bloviation), we'll curl up with our Pens and some good subs, and yell our heads off-- either way!

GO PENS!

GO MWH! (One of the auction benefiting him is going well, in addition to quieter efforts, and there is lots of time left on the Cup auction for folks to warm up to it.)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 06:32 PM

92-93 they rode a hot goalie all the way!
It's been a long time since the Habs went through a decade without winning a cup! Wrong! They've never gone through a decade without a Cup!
Last chanace fellas!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 06:55 PM

They're in tough but, being a Canuck, I'll be rootin' for 'em.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Apr 10 - 08:38 PM

But has Halak learned all the wiles of our 4-headed monster?

Make that 5....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 01 May 10 - 06:34 AM

No doubt, to be the best, you got to beat the best! Montreal is in tough. They're going to have to adapt, improvise and overcome. Oh shit, that's the Marines!
Go Habs Go!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 01 May 10 - 12:43 PM

I hope Boston creams Philly. I hate an inate hatred for Philly ever since they started all the chippy shit, bullying and fighting back in the 70s. I can remember (if I can remember?) "watching" no hockey for over half an hour due to the crap.... got so bad, I stopped following the game for years.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 01 May 10 - 12:49 PM

Holy moly... what a game in the opening minutes!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 01 May 10 - 01:23 PM

What a great first period. Fast, end to end and both teams are playing well. Philly seems a little flat and there was some sloppy play, but I expect that might change in the second.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 01 May 10 - 03:37 PM

Forgot about this game. Just came in from spring cleaning. Now in overtime.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 01 May 10 - 03:44 PM

You got your wish Gnu.
Good for Savard.
Ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 01 May 10 - 03:46 PM

Now... that was GOOD hockey!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 10 - 12:48 PM

I miss Jordan Staal aalready.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 02 May 10 - 02:02 PM

Game's comin on. Anyone here rooting for Pitt?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 02 May 10 - 02:15 PM

Was The Cherry on between periods in any of the games lately? I assume he will be on today as it's on CBC. Will he have a black and white tux on today? When will these twits stop talking so the game can start?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 02 May 10 - 04:04 PM

I am surprised the Habs are up by one... BS luck. Pitt is playing much better hockey. They are making the Habs look like school girls that can't decide what to do with the puck... except trying to give it back to Pitt outside the blue line. I am getting hoarse.

And the lack of penalty calls is atroacious. The hits after the play, behind the play and AWAY from the play are hard to watch. I know a ref can't see em all, but this is ridiculous... someone is gonna get hurt or in a fight. And, since the Habs started it in the first minutes, it's getting worse from both teams. Is it all for TV and "blood thurst"?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 02 May 10 - 04:09 PM

I'm off around 6 to play music at a jam session in Montreal with my Red Wing jacket on. I wonder if they will allow me entrance He! he!
ad.
Back to the third period.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 02 May 10 - 04:20 PM

It's one of the issues with having a two-man refereeing system. One ref may say "Lettem play! While the other uses his rule book! Unwritten rule(one ref to the other) #1-Don't "you" call penalties in "my" end of the ice!            
                                     #2-Always obey rule #1

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 02 May 10 - 04:32 PM

Tske that!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 02 May 10 - 04:38 PM

1-1

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 02 May 10 - 04:46 PM

Sum bitch! I am still almost not believing that. The Habs CAME ALIVE and overcome their nerves? or what?

But, I was terribly upset at that last boarding. The was a shitty thing to do... dirty play. Unfortunately, it doesn't result in a suspension. Heck, it's not even called bording anymore... he was "hit from behind" according to the commentator.

But, it was good hockey... sloppy and slow Habs play and piss poor reffing, but it was exciting.

My money is on Pitt, and my heart will always be with Mon'réal.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 May 10 - 05:43 PM

Anyone here rooting for Pitt?

Duh, HELLO! :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 02 May 10 - 07:17 PM

Oh... are you a Pitt fan, S.... Hehehehehehe.... just yankin.

Seriously, I don`t think the Habs are gonna win. I will be cheerin fer em, but... Pitt just skates better and doesn`t look like they don`t know what to do with the puck. I mean, gee whiz... you are supposed to go to the net with the guy that doesn`t have a jersey like yours... not keep dumping the puck mid-ice! You are not supposed to pass DIRECTLY to someone dressed in a different uniform! Overall, if these mistakes continue, the Habs will be out. Their win today was surprisingly BS luck.

But I liked it. Big time.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 02 May 10 - 11:53 PM

Just back from a gig in Montreal. Not a happy camper. I missed most of the game so I don't know if Detroit deserved to loose or not. maybe someone here watched it and could make a comment.
Ad.p.s. Oh!, again the goalie won the game and not the team. But that is hockey. Good luck to your Canadians Gnu. My son is a very devoted Pitsburg fan and he said that they ran themselves tired by the third period. Interesting I thought.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 03 May 10 - 12:50 PM

Of course the Habs could win. They beat the Washington team didn't they? But Pittsburgh has more balance and better goal-tending and Ovey's crew . I'd give the Habs a one in three chance at this point.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 03 May 10 - 02:50 PM

Beer... gosh! Maybe THAT was the Habs' strategy? Keep giving Pitt the puck so they would rush in so Halak could stop the puck, OVER AND OVER AND OVER until they got tired? (And I got hoarse.)

Amazing hockey strategy insight! I still wouldn't rule out BS luck (and great tending).

GO HABS GO!

Even tho the name don't mean much no more. Then again, it hasn't for a lot of years I suppose. But, I do love their chow... almost as much as I did Mémère's. (Canuck joke. Matter of fact, a down home joke... peeps in yer Tronna calls it chow-chow which sounds kinda...)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 03 May 10 - 06:40 PM

Some of the national/regional sports pundits up here, are already referring to Montreal's game plan as "The Rope A Dope"! The first one was a masterpiece, a work of art!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 04 May 10 - 05:59 AM

Anyone following the Quebec Major Junior Hockey? Moncton is up 2-0 over Saint John.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 04 May 10 - 06:31 AM

Haven't been following it but have heard that it is some rivalry between Moncton and St. John. Must have a look and see if I can pick it up on the computer.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 04 May 10 - 03:20 PM

I'll have the Habs on the big TV with the audio up and the Wings on the smaller TV with the audio lower and the remote for the big TV in hand. I watch NFL games this way but hockey may be a bit more difficult.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 May 10 - 05:19 PM

Go PENS!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 04 May 10 - 07:54 PM

Holy moly! Les boys COULD win this. What fantastic play. That was goooood hockey... edge of the seat stuff! I hope I can stay awake to watch the whole game.

Coaches corner is coming on... hockey heaven!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 04 May 10 - 08:36 PM

I'm not really a Habs fan, but I have to say that I hope that they
beat Pittsburgh.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 04 May 10 - 10:46 PM

Oh my but we are in a stink hole.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 05 May 10 - 07:03 AM

Beer... just lulling them into a false sense of security.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 May 10 - 12:29 PM

Oh my indeed!

(((Wings' Fans)))

And oh my, oh my Pens!

GO PENS!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 06 May 10 - 12:00 PM

The Bruins game was a good one. They won 4-1, finished off with an
empty-net goal. Go Bruins.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 06 May 10 - 08:05 PM

I feel vindicated for my extreme ire over that penalty at the end of the second period in the last Habs vs Pens game. The Cherry showed slo-mos and felt the same way I did. As I am sure many fans for both teams did. I think Sid The Kid is a Canuck hero for what he did in the Limpics. He's a Maritimer. I love to watch him play.

But what the fuck is this bullshit that he can cross check, rake and trip behind the play but cannot even be shoved with a hand in the shoulder? Unreal... unf***ingreal! Hero to zero. Pussy.

And that is why he is booed every time he touches the puck in Montréal.

Oh... and, they are not booing that wicked check in the first period (it was fine)... they are booing the lack of a penalty that should have been called when the second Wing that went down with the Hab elbowed him in the kidney. WyTF was that not called? That was as dirty as it gets. That should draw a fine.

This is getting upsetting. I don't like dirty hockey.

I hope the Habs win. But, that doesn't look likey.... the Pens have a lot more men on the ice.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 06 May 10 - 08:11 PM

Gnu every thing you say is no doubt true
But in the Home if the white red and blue
It don't take much to make a Habs fan boo.


BTW are you saying that they are booing Crosby because the Ref favored him?

Shouldn't they be booing Bettman?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 06 May 10 - 08:13 PM

What about what just happened. Too many men on the ice... no call?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 06 May 10 - 08:14 PM

Fransen, oh my!! 4 straight goals for him.
Go Wings"
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 06 May 10 - 08:19 PM

Jack, me zon, me zon... are you saying it's fixed?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,JTS
Date: 06 May 10 - 08:22 PM

I'm saying that what the refs do ain't Crosby's doing.

Why do you think the superstars and major markets get away with way more than the small market, no US TV appeal Canadian clubs.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 06 May 10 - 08:46 PM

Well... I dunno. But I do know that the calling in the last game and the present game are bullshit. I tape some games while I am watching them as I have to answer my office phone as required. When I play some stuff back, it makes me even more pissed off. And, when The Cherry plays the BS back on national television, I feel I can post my feelings here. That is, it's not just sour grapes... no pun intended (Canuck joke... Don Cherry).

But, it could be so Jack... why else could it be? I don't see any refs with with white canes.

Let's just see what happens. I'll try not to be so negative.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 06 May 10 - 11:31 PM

I'm happy tonight. Montreal wins 3-2, and Detroit wins 7-1.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 07 May 10 - 06:20 AM

Great to see the Wings back in style!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 07 May 10 - 02:03 PM

I guess I'll have to settle for watching Boston crush Philly like a bug tonight. (Did I mention I detest Philly for sommat that happened decades ago?) The Cunucks play at 11PM my time.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 07 May 10 - 11:38 PM

Chicago beats Vancouver 5-3.
Philadelphia beats Boston 5-4.
I was hoping that Boston could sweep it, they were so close, darn.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 May 10 - 09:09 AM

It was a pretty exciting game, wasn't it? But I think the Flyers only delayed the inevitable.

We just could not stay up for the Chicago game.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 10 - 11:39 AM

Ditto what Susan said. Looking forward to the games this eve.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 08 May 10 - 11:45 AM

Late for me this evening but Yeah!, me to.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 10 - 01:01 PM

Late? 7 and 7:30 PM for you. No?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 May 10 - 01:07 PM

Isn't there another game after the Pens' game? Where is it to be held? I lost track.

Go Wings!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 08 May 10 - 04:27 PM

1 game tonight.
7pm c.b.c.
for those who get it!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 08 May 10 - 04:30 PM

Sorry, wrong again! Det vs SJ 10pm on Toronto Sports Network

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 08 May 10 - 05:11 PM

I'll be watching the Wing game when I get back from a Jam Session.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 10 - 07:30 PM

Oh.... the time given on NHL.com is local time.. sorry Beer.

An observation... at about 11:00... tripping on the way to the net... NO CALL. I am starting to get pissed off again.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 10 - 07:55 PM

The Wings deserve that goal... what a stupid penalty! "Mistakes" like that deserve punishment. Glad a ref had his eys open on that crap. Hope it doesn't get chippy.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 09 May 10 - 12:37 AM

Good night Irene good night.
Next year.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 May 10 - 04:33 AM

(((adrien)))

===
GO PENS! I think I spotted what Bylsma did to pull this one off. I'll see if I'm right with the next one. Gosh it was great to see the Habs take us on, but I'm still glad we beat 'em! :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 09 May 10 - 09:48 AM

"The Wings deserve that goal"??? I must count the empties.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 09 May 10 - 09:52 AM

Any sense in watching the game tonight? It's a bit late for me.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 09 May 10 - 01:39 PM

I counted the empties. My hunch was confirmed.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 10 - 05:19 AM

OOOOOOOOOOOOUCH!!!!! Talk about takin one fer the team.

Salo was hospitalized after blocking a shot in the midsection from Chicago's Duncan Keith in the dying seconds of the first period. The Canucks would not disclose the nature of the ailment, but the word around the United Center after the game was that Salo had suffered a ruptured testicle.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 May 10 - 10:07 AM

That WAS kinda what his reaction looked like. OMG I am getting to be a hockey commentator.

Gnu refers to the Chi/Vanc game BTW, which Vanc won, staving off elimination.

Tonight's games are Pens-Habs and Broons-Flyers. I think. I get mixed up! I am not sure which towns they're in tonight. I THINK we are down to these three series. I think it's gonna be Pens and Hawks at the end. Our earliest prediction at home; our best fantasy, and our worst nightmare. Faulkner will lose his mind.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 10 - 08:46 PM

Oh my gosh. Miss the open net at this critical point? Talk about a F*** me! moment! Exciting hockey.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 10 May 10 - 08:58 PM

"Go-WINGS-Go"
Oops!! Just remembered, another 4 months before they are back. Canadians up Boston down. Come on Boston,. Come on -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------CANADIANS

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 10 - 09:44 PM

The game is over and Golden Boy crosschecks? What the fuck is his problem? Canuck hero in the Limpics and now he's a pussy wimp asshole? And this is not the first time. But this is the worst time.

I hope the Habs win, just so that kinda shit doesn't get any kinda reward.

The Pens are a great team, and Sid the Kid is an amazing player.... but that kinda crap sportsmanship was never allowed on my rink. What a fuckin pussy.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 10 May 10 - 10:23 PM

You're right gnu, Sid is a special player but if is going to attain the stature of greatness accorded to players such as Howe, Belliveau, Gretzky etc. he has to ditch the cry baby routine. Hopefully that will come with maturity.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 10 May 10 - 10:45 PM

Nail on the head Bobad. Sid is a kid with an attitude. To immature to have been made captain in my books. Just fed in his immature ego. I still think he will turn it around in a year or two. In the mean time he may really blow it with some stupid incident which he may cause. Could happen and with Sid's temper. It is very possible and it would be a shame.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 11 May 10 - 06:28 AM

I wonder if that is part of the problem... too much pressure to early?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 11 May 10 - 07:21 AM

I've always thought so. One look at Sid and you can tell if he is upset. If I was a coach I would be after him always. He is just one of these folks that cannot hide his emotions and it shows very clearly with his facial expressions.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 May 10 - 10:03 AM

We always turn off the TV as soon as our Pens piss away a game, sometimes before it ends, so we missed all that and I've erased the game. I hate to take such a negative view as the "final word" on it, but I have no comeback because I didn't see what you guys apparently saw.

Maybe it will turn up in tonight's coverage-- the local commentators we watch are no "homers" and I have often seen them decry Pens' actions when warranted. Of course the league also is watching and anything really egregious is always suspension-worthy-- stars or no stars.

I DID see our alternative team put the Canucks out, last night, and I hope to see the Habs retire gracefully for the year this evening, plus-- is the Boston series closing tonight?


GO PENS! And yes, GO SID!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 12 May 10 - 07:51 PM

~S~... "I have no comeback because I didn't see what you guys apparently saw."

"Apparently"? What? Why would I lie about it? It was ON TV! MILLIONS of people saw it. Give me a break, eh? Geeze.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 May 10 - 08:04 PM

OK, gnu, read another insult where none was intended. Here:

We always turn off the TV as soon as our Pens piss away a game, sometimes before it ends, so we missed all that and I've erased the game.

I hate to take such a negative view as the "final word" on it, but I have no comeback because I didn't see what you guys saw.

Maybe it will turn up in tonight's coverage-- the local commentators we watch are no "homers" and I have often seen them decry Pens' actions when warranted.

Of course the league also is watching and anything really egregious is always suspension-worthy-- stars or no stars.

===

Now. SOMEONE who posted above seems, to me, to have "seen" a whiner and a purposeful check, who APPARENTLY can read minds.

Instead of reading minds, or taking the assessment of people who seem to think they can, I simply prefer to take the League's harsh judgment-- which I am sure they will mete out if it is warranted. They were not afraid to suspend Ovie this year, or others, eh?

Or if you like I can post a gripe every time SID is cross-checked, slewfooted, and stickbutted-- and there is no call-- and then attack anyone who politely fails to agree. As you did!

If you prefer that kind of posting, by golly, I can do that too! :~)


BUT I WILL (PROBABLY) NOT CLAIM TO READ HOCKEY PLAYERS' MINDS.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:00 PM

~S~... not intended? Then why did you insult me? Your words, not mine. You posted them, not me. Those are your words.

Re posting about what happens on the ice, go for it. Better than insulting me and millions of viewers with that assinine comment and then crapping on me about it. Your call.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:42 PM

Karma's a bitch eh?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 May 10 - 02:16 AM

Effing Pens!

OUT, and the "next year" crap has begun.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 13 May 10 - 07:27 AM

What can I say?
Go Habs Go!

Washington-X
Pittsburgh-X
Boston
Chicago

It's already been written! It was in French though, so I didn't get it all. What was clearly understood was, 101 years-25 Cups!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 May 10 - 11:58 AM

Well, refter, I did allus like them Habs. No wait-- there were a couple of chippy years recently when they didn't execute and win well-- but the real Habs, the classic Habs, the LETHAL Habs-- damn the Pens but GO HABS GO!

UNTIL they meet the Hawks that is, and then... another tough choice for us.

And then by next year I hope to be able to cheer the Pens again without gagging on our BBQ. :~)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 13 May 10 - 01:43 PM

They'll be in the thick of it again next year, Susan. Too good a team not to be.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 13 May 10 - 02:29 PM

Youse see the crap that went on last night in Montréal? Celebration, yes, but looting and vandalism? 41 arrests! Shocking! Shameful! Terrible!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 13 May 10 - 03:49 PM

Yer right gnu, but they aren't the same as the fans that rioted when they suspended "The Rocket". They were hockey fans!!The majority of the rioters last night showed up the for the looting and vandalism. Not to celebrate at all!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 13 May 10 - 05:55 PM

I suppose that's true. "Opportunists" seeing a throng to give them "cover" for their nefarious deeds.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 14 May 10 - 11:38 AM

Should be a good game tonight.

GO BRUINS GO

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 May 10 - 03:14 PM

Amen! GO BROONS!

Still disgusted with Pens. I suspect they had the wrong energy drink-- thought it was caff but not-- because they all seem to have had the same malaise. They look, in the lowlights, to us-- like people missing their performance-enhancing stuff of whatever sort is possible to squeak thru the drug tests this year.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 14 May 10 - 05:36 PM

Susan! Them lads don't use any kinda drugs do they? They are young men in their prime... maybe... I have said more than once that I can't believe they get so winded after a few minutes on the ice... surely they CAN'T be doing drugs?

Seriously, if a tennis or squash player can stay on the court for four hours ON FOOT, why can't these guys stay on the ice for more than several minutes? No way they are doing drugs (are they really ya think?). Or is it about strategy?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 May 10 - 06:00 PM

...surely they CAN'T be doing drugs?....

A leaguefull of unusually big, very young guys bulked up (in one summer) before their time? Across the whole league? Having to bulk up to keep a roster spot (Ryan Malone, please come home)?

DRUGS involved?

I would hope not, but I'm a cycling fan too, so....

Naw, "our" PENS couldn't be. But they could, too....

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 May 10 - 12:30 AM

Late night scores:

ICK ICK ICK

ICK!

nononononono.....

GO HABS!

GO HAWKS!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 16 May 10 - 08:40 AM

I don't like this two games every night stuff. I get up at 4:30, so I doubt I'll get to watch much of the Western Final!

Go Habs Go!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 May 10 - 10:41 AM

Oh no-- did they really double up the scheds for this round?

OK! That's what the DVR is for then! If no DVR, sometimes NHL radio or teams' websites have allowed a day-after listen to the audio.


GO HABS! (tonight?), GO HAWKS! (tomorrow?)!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 16 May 10 - 12:57 PM

Here's the website again.

3 & 7PM EST, Hawks at 3, Habs at 7, today.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 16 May 10 - 03:48 PM

I hate that... if it says 3PM it should be 3PM. I went for a walk at quarter past and missed the first bit.

1 - 0... for the Hosers. >;-(

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 16 May 10 - 05:54 PM

That was priceless! The wrong man in the penalty box in the last minutes of a semi. I was screaming at the TV (not the first time). Oh my goodness.

All said, WOW! Great hockey. Few offsides and such, very little chippy... fast... exciting.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 16 May 10 - 07:13 PM

"God Bless America"! What a way to start a series. Kate Smith...what more can you say!

Well done Philly!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 16 May 10 - 07:24 PM

I would bet that one of the two guys in stripes(with no armbands) said to the other "wrong guy in the box"! And I'd bet the farm that the guy replied with "are you 100% sure"? More often than not us "lineys" can make a "Ref" a hero or a goat, and on occation I've said to myself "#@&*him(or not)" for lots of different reasons!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 16 May 10 - 10:53 PM

"Go Phillies Go"
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 16 May 10 - 10:55 PM

"Go Hawks Go"
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 17 May 10 - 05:58 AM

Glad I went to bed early!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 17 May 10 - 06:57 AM

Just one of those games that the Canadians have to forget about. They will bounce back.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: DannyC
Date: 17 May 10 - 09:37 PM

Glad I stayed awake for the whole shimuzzle

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 18 May 10 - 03:07 PM

BOUNCE HABS BOUNCE!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 18 May 10 - 10:43 PM

Held serve... now it gets real --- and rough

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 19 May 10 - 07:35 AM

I am REAL glad I went to bed even earlier than last game.

What I saw was Philly on fire. Good hockey. Hopefully I'll be able to stay up next game.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 10 - 07:57 PM

I am hoping I can stay up for this game. So far, so good.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 20 May 10 - 09:08 PM

I am gonna try to stay up for the third, but it's gettin difficult. WTF is all the chippy shit? BOTH sides cross checking and raking and interfering BEHIND the play???

Yeah, it's high stakes hockey but that shit is ridiculous. There ARE rules, no? That shit about "letting them play" is a bit much for me. Not the hockey I saw in my youth and was taught to play. If a guy is not near the puck, how can you mess with him like that and not get a penalty? BOTH teams are at it constantly.

If that kind of play is allowed, condoned, "expected" (???), I may as well go to bed early again. Piss poor.

I just hope that if the series comes down to the wire, the players play real hockey.

Third period is on.... I can't resist.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 21 May 10 - 06:50 AM

Heheheee... I fell asleep during the first commercial break. Just as well as my throat was getting sore.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 May 10 - 10:47 AM

GO HABS! Again, please!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 21 May 10 - 11:36 AM

Well, they will want to win at home, so Habs in 6.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 21 May 10 - 12:26 PM

It would hab to be becuz they need 4, having lost 2.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 22 May 10 - 04:55 PM

Wow... that last goal was beautiful! Wrong team of course!

Still cheering here, but if the Habs continue to play on Philly's side by giving them the puck over and over... we'll see.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 22 May 10 - 05:39 PM

Habs fans booing their own team? That just ain't "Canuck". Almost enough to make me turn it off and forget hockey for the rest of the year. Sickening. Pathetic.

What the hell is wrong with people these days?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 22 May 10 - 06:38 PM

Montreal needs more than one goal scorer.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 22 May 10 - 08:21 PM

Ooooh la la a Montréal needs some fucking manners in the stands. If the Habs lose in the semi-finals, okay... life goes on. But, to boo their own team on home ice for falling behind? It's just sickening.

Maybe Philly should win, even though I still harbour hatred for them. But that hatred was for foul play years ago... tonight, I was disgusted by Les Canadiens "fans" in the stands. Ruined the rest of the game for me.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 22 May 10 - 10:59 PM

There's a lot of talk that pellets (or something with bigger particles than sand) were spread in the tunnel entrance to The Flyers' bench.   Several Phiily skaters ran into a bit of trouble with 'bad wheels' throughout.   Might have been intentional. That'd be a shame because I've always held the Montreal franchise in high esteem. It'd be way beyond gamesmanship.

Out for our music/song/dance night @ McCarthy's here on Thursday night, we had a couple of drivers named Michaud in from Alberta. Big fellas and big life-long fans of Les Habs. They were along way from home and we gave 'em the royal treatment, but they really roasted me about hockey. I doubt they enjoyed the result of today's game, but I wish 'em well nonetheless.

Go Flyers!!

(btw, the music n' dance night was terrific... big bar with a good crowd and they all got quiet and gave us our due for the music. I love it when that happens.)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 23 May 10 - 11:44 AM

The game is on CBC again today... The Cherry will be on!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 May 10 - 12:01 PM

GO HAWKS!

~S~
(Hain't read the thread-- DVR to catch up on, post-trip)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 23 May 10 - 05:47 PM

Wow! Best hockey game I have seen since the Limpics!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 May 10 - 08:08 AM

Go Hawks!

But first, go Habs!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 10 - 08:23 AM

They might go tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 May 10 - 09:53 AM

How are the Cubs doing?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 May 10 - 10:24 AM

No real Chicago fan puts MONEY on a Chi team, but ya can't avoid thinking "this could be the year." That's how ya get hooked-- that Stockholm Syndrome thing. :~)

Until the Sharks did the lose-again thing ydy (last night in our DVRzone), by leaving their net empty on their concluding power play, my money was on them-- but my heart on the Hawks.

This is how a hockey fan-- or any Chi sports fan-- can grow up with two heads. Fortunately (?) only one of them drinks beer. :~)


BTW, are we the only people here who speed-watch some of these periods? Hardi and me have a bet going.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 10 - 07:12 PM

Question... why don't Yanks sing the national anthem? Are there really two?

Always sowin off them Yanks.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 10 - 07:16 PM

Put dat puck on dat net!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 10 - 07:19 PM

Holy batshit Batboy... what a goal by Philly!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 24 May 10 - 07:51 PM

Canadians out shoot the Flyer's but they certainly didn't out play them.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 24 May 10 - 08:14 PM

Wow! Two beauties in a minute and a half! Those were beeeautiful.

They both suck of course but I like watching good hockey.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 24 May 10 - 08:51 PM

Beer Break
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 24 May 10 - 09:53 PM

The next series is a tough one for me. I like a lot of players on the Flyer's team but I would also like the hawks to win because it has been such a long time for them. So I think I'll just ride the fence in this one and hope that both play well.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: bobad
Date: 24 May 10 - 11:12 PM

And so another team heads out to the links.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 24 May 10 - 11:19 PM

Excellent Bobad.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 25 May 10 - 06:03 AM

Pocklington has also pledged to turn over two of his five Stanley Cup rings, and pay the U.S. taxes he owes.

Here.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 May 10 - 08:34 AM

What Ad said (several). Great vid Bobad!

Gnu, there are MANY more than two national anthems here. PM if clarification wanted-- it would be thread drift here.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 25 May 10 - 02:12 PM

gone HABS gone... sniff

GO BLACKHAWKS GO!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 25 May 10 - 02:14 PM

Saturday? I don't wanna wait until Saturday.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 25 May 10 - 03:48 PM

It's the annual "wean the hockey nuts" treatment program.

===

May I just say for the millionth time this month: "F***in' PENGUINS!"

I have a theory that Hardi spawned-- which is that almost any sentence about anything can go like this in just three hops:

"So the season's over, eh. Yer new hobby's gardening, I heard."
"Yes, I'm planting flars this year."
"FLARS!---Fleury! F***in' PENGUINS!


Does that also work for all you other griefstricken layabouts, with your teams?

Acourse we'll watch 'em in the Fall, but.... we're twisted that way.

===

GO HAWKS!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 25 May 10 - 04:07 PM

Susan: In the end, I like watching good hockey and true sportsmanship. When my team (which is a joke nowadays because I grew up watching MY team... "local lads"... not guys from thousands of miles away) wins, it's a bonus.

So, now, for me, it's about watching good hockey. The only reason I rooted for the Habs was Maurice, Henri, Jean, Yvonne, Frank, Jacques, Dicky, Guy... so many. I couldn't give two shits about the ferriners winning nowadays except that they are good and good hockey is fun for me to watch. I cheer as much for a beautiful goal from the opposing team as much as I cheer for a fluke goal by "my" team.

And I still hate Philly no matter who is on the team. Just like I cheered for the Habs. It makes no sense in this day and age, but I hope Chicago grinds them into the Zamboni.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 26 May 10 - 07:56 AM

I don't know how anyone could root against Mike Richards, or the courageous Ian Laperriere, or the emerging Claude Giroux.

There was some fantastic puck movement by The Flyers and some dazzling goals. Used to be called 'teamwork' boys... perhaps a lost art in this era of the mega-media-Star. It's been a joy watching the Philly team over-achieve from afar.

Let's Go Flyers!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 26 May 10 - 08:14 PM

Good points Danny. I like what I see with the flyers as well. They are not the team of old. They have a very solid unit and this is going to be one hell of a series. I'm rooting for Chi. only because it has been so long since they won the cup. All in all I really don't mind if the Flyers win. As long as it has been a good series by both teams.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 27 May 10 - 04:01 PM

Geeze... I am kinda feelin guilty and torn, now.

I guess I will hafta settle for good clean hockey and make up my mind who ta root fer as it unfolds.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 27 May 10 - 04:44 PM

lol, Gnu.
I just did a little checking on players from Canada playing for the Canadians, Flyers and Chicago. Here is what NHL.Com has listed.

Canadians: 3 from Que. 11 from other provinces = 14
Flyers:    4 from Que. 15   '    '      '      = 19
Chicago:    1 from Que. 19   '    '      '      = 20

Doesn't prove anything except there are more Canadians playing for Stanley Cup than if Montreal was still in the running.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 27 May 10 - 05:03 PM

Just what I was saying earlier... rooting for the "old team" don't make no nevermind anymore, really. It's all about good hockey.

I kinda want CHI to take it casue they haven't in such a long time. But, good, clean, fast play is what I wanna see on accounta it's nearly as exciting as curling.

Ya know, if they allowed checking in curling it would be better than hockey eh?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 28 May 10 - 01:57 PM

Only one more sleep.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 28 May 10 - 06:14 PM

My first wife's parents were from Montreal. Her father actually coached for stint at Cornell where he had the good fortune of having Ken Dryden on his squad before Dryden put everybody's lights out at the next level.

Her father - they called him Gus @ McGill - also skated as a young man with Boom Boom and some other greats.   He was very clear in letting me know that those ones that went on to be Habs were way way beyond his level.

Say what you want about those '70s Flyers... they threw everything they had into the game... Rick MacLeish & Billy Barber & Moose Dupont & Reggie the Rifle & Gary Dornhoefer were a worthy supporting cast. Nobody marvelled at Clarkie's physique or towering stature... he was all heart and overcame the blood-sugar throughout. They beat some damn good teams fair & square.

I suppose there'll always be resentment from some of the old-line crew due to the fact that those Flyers were the first from outside the original Six to win the Cup. Their names will rightly adorn the Cup as long as it exists... Let's Go Flyers!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 28 May 10 - 08:51 PM

Well, I remember the bench clearing brawls as soon as they were down a goal or two. Game delay for the better part of an hour more than once. Dirty play... dirty tactics... I stopped watching hockey and stayed away for years after that shit became "TV".

Same thing happened in baseball... in baseball! Kicking dirt on the ump? Brawls in the middle of the diamond? WTF?

Then, it found it's way to other sports. Sensationalizing the supposed violent aspect of games which needn't be "violent". Sickening.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 28 May 10 - 09:44 PM

Baseball? It's my understanding that it was never a gentleman's game until 'frat boy' Christy Mathewson entered the scene. To discern the gentle roots of baseball, you might want to take a look at the great career of Ty Cobb... rough and ready.

At St. Joe's in Philly in the '60s, we were fortunate to have a teacher by the name of Aloysius "Buzzy" Travers SJ who had been recruited to play a single game as a pitcher for the Detroit Tigers for the final game of the year (I think it was 1912 or something). He got recruited off of a college field because Ty Cobb had gotten himself suspended for his rough play and the whole team just went home. To this day (the late) "Buzzy" holds the major league record for the most runs given up in a single game by a pitcher thanks to the immortal Cobb's antics.

I played the three main American sports everyday of my life growing up and we fought (in varying degrees) with each other every day. I doubt that young hockey players grow up much different. My son is currently playing college basketball and he reports that he's continually involved in near-fights in practice on plenty of occasions. It's all part of it... always will be.

Speaking of roughnecks... how about the great Gordie Howe?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 28 May 10 - 11:52 PM

Mr. Elbows was a great great dirty player but held everyone's respect.
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Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 29 May 10 - 11:46 AM

Well, I probably won't be able to stay up that late, so... Chicago is at home. They have to come out fast and furious with early goals against a GOOD defense that includes a GOOD goalie who is (was?) on a hot streak. At 1.45 GAA, Chicago may have a rough time with that.

In any case, I think it's gonna be a barnburnner of a series simply because both teams cannot sit on a two goal lead by relying on defense to carry them (until the last minutes of a game).

Poise and controlled stamina and avoiding penalties are taught before the birds and the bees but can easily forgotten for a moment under this kinda pressure. The coaches have their jobs cut out for them also.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 May 10 - 04:21 PM

Lav's edge as a coach-- wasn't he the one who used to say, "Just win THIS period." If you win each one, you win the game.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 29 May 10 - 06:45 PM

Gotta take Chicago on this one!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 29 May 10 - 09:57 PM

Penalties.... what did I say? And it is a barnburner, but I am gonna fall dead asleep soon... long day gardening. Missed four goals so far.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 30 May 10 - 09:25 AM

Blackhawks really asserted themselves in the 3rd Period...   that Hossa dude wrecked us about 8 yrs ago when in Ottawa and he walloped the Flyers pretty good last night at key moments...   but one game does not a Series make.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 30 May 10 - 02:29 PM

BTW, was anybody else momentarily blinded by The Cherry's suit?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 May 10 - 06:03 PM

No, I missed Cherry, but then I am distracted by remembering how much crap I got for suggesting we move to a playoffs thread-- since this one is clearly titled for the "Reg Season."

LOL, eh.

I ALSO cannot believe how much crap I got for trying to raise funds to benefit a hockey fan I have not seen in this hockey thread, in forever. (Am I the only one missing Tex?)

Play on, dudes [shaking head].... and if any of your pockets have topped up lately and you'd like to own your own ex-Pens cup, there is an Auction still running, that would love some action.

GO HAWKS!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 30 May 10 - 06:31 PM

Susan... you can't? Read back. Obvious to me... and to others... uncalled for and rude. Just as your comments in your latest post.

No more polite PMs from me. I am tired of it. Ya wanna talk hockey, great. Just leave me alone.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 31 May 10 - 06:03 PM

I have a 9AM that I have to be "on deck" for and I have prep to do for it so I shall hit the bunk without even thinking of watching even any pregame.

Philly by at least two. If I had any coin, I'd take bets on a Philly win. I dunno why... just a feeling... normally, I would say Chicago, then Philly wins two at home. Then it's all out hockey in a three game series.

Either way, it's gonna be great hockey.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 11:09 AM

Good game?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 12:25 PM

No more threats, gnu.

===

GO HAWKS!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 01:32 PM

I did not threaten you, Susan. Leave me alone.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:55 PM

Don't post at me, then. :~) Or give me any more "rules," either.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 05:10 PM

Susan... you started it and you chose to keep it up. I will not let you twist my words or slag me in any way. Every time you bring it up again, I will respond. I do not care that some people think the best thing to do is ignore you. What part of "leave me alone" do you NOT understand?

As far as "rules", you started that too as everyone can read from your own words in the auction thread... and not just with me and not just in the auction thread or this thread.

Now, we should not be doing this in public. That is why I PMd you. But, like I said, since you want to make a public spectacle of yourself, no more PMs... only in public. You wanna mess me over in public, I will respond in public. Period.

You can take your overbearing, arrogant, and sanctimonious diatribe and shove it. YOUR CALL, once again.

Leave me alone. Drop it!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 09:55 PM

I thought it was a much better played game than Game 1, and that both goalies redeemed themselves.
I am a little encouraged that The Flyers were able to keep the final tally in both games to one goal.
We'll know alot more come Wed. night.   The Hawks are big and fast and skilled but The Flyers are hanging right in with them. It sure was tough to find some space to operate in Game 2 (and, imho, that's the way a Cup Finals should be).
I'd call it 'good hockey'. (I don't miss the lopsided reffing that regrettably seems to be mandatory when some glamour boy is involved... their absence makes the game more pure... again, imho)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 06:46 AM

Tonight will be "interesting".

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 09:05 PM

Certainly interesting so far. But I dunno if I can stand the chippy shit that seems to be starting... what a dumb penalty after the end of the first period. Strange.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: DannyC
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 11:29 PM

This series now has a chance of turning into something really good. Terrific efforts from both sides.   The Flyers dominated late - like the Blackhawks had done in ChiTown - and deserved the 'W'.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:39 AM

Ron MacLean to the resue.

Chicago tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 08:15 PM

Da da da da da dadaaaa... welcome hockey fans...

Do any of youse Yanks get the CBC? The theme song for Hockey Night in Canada is a cell phone ring I have heard many times in the past week or two. Many conversations between total strangers start with "Blackhawks?" or "Fliers?". Well, I do.

While standing in line at the grocery store today with Mum and my aunt (83, 85) a lad wearing a Philly jersey got in line. My aunt struck up a conversation with him and within a minute, 20 people were talking hockey and not minding the long checkout lines so much.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 08:27 PM

When I was a young man I'd swim that River out to the abutment under the Burlington-Bristol Bridge. Long strong strokes like I was some Beowulf. Never gave a thought to what U S Steel was dumping in just up River. I lived like I was an immortal and I'm glad I got away with that notion while I could.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 08:28 PM

Mike Richards just got us off to a good start... ttyl

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 04 Jun 10 - 09:14 PM

I dunno... after all that chippy crap by Chicago... I might just go to bed early. It's okay hockey but geeeeze oh eh? Buddy's on the ice for 5 seconds and draws a penalty??? And the penalty calling is crap.

Maybe I am just a cranky old man that needs to sack out.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 06 Jun 10 - 01:30 PM

That chippy action really wore down The Flyers on Friday night to the point where CHI almost got the equalizer. I'd say tonight the Blackhawks will try to lay a physical pounding on PHI and get the benefit that you'd expect for a home team. It's been four one goal games... a very good series. The Flyers have done well to hang in there, but I'm apprehensive about the ultimate outcome... ah well, we'll know soon enuff, won't we?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 06 Jun 10 - 01:44 PM

Hit the nail on the head... CHI is a big, rough team and they laid on the body. Philly did pretty well too.

When I said chippy, I meant the dirty stuff behind the play. Especially the cross checking by CHI - that was abusive and hard to watch. Philly did their share as well... or maybe not so well. As far as ding-dong getting a penalty after 6 seconds on the ice for the first time on the ice in games, ya KNOW the coach said go out their and injure. Just glad he didn't.

I don't think we'll see much chippy stuff or stupid penatlties tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 08:25 AM

To be fair, there's loads of high sticks and late cross-checks being dealt out by both squads...   I'm hoping The Flyers can push it to a seventh game.

DannyC
(Who is wondering where all the hockey chat went now that the media darlings are sidelined. There's some terrific players still alive for The Cup.)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 08:53 AM

Only saw the first period as I had an early appt this AM. Gooood hockey. 7 games would be nice.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 03:09 PM

go phliers

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 08:28 PM

No game tonight? Soooo... it WILL go 7... more beer to sell eh? Wias I had some coin to "sure" bet.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 09:10 PM

Danny C,
you are a welcome addition on this thread. i have been here for a number of years and this is by far one of the most respected threads to be had. there are the odd disagreements but nothing gets nasty like in so many other posts. Funny though as this can become a very nasty sport at times.

Sorry that i have not been perticipating of late but I have been busy and away from home on family issues. In fact i have seen about a total of one period so far and I was hoping to watch it all as i thought this would be a great series. Go Chi. and if my Red Wings don't make it next year than I will pull for Totonto.
Beer (adrien)
"Go Wings Go"

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Beer
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 09:13 PM

Sorry about all the missssspellings. Jst no time to be careful.
Ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 11:26 AM

GO HAWKS!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 11:38 AM

Hey, how about them Cubs, huh?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: DannyC
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 12:35 PM

Flyers surely needed the extra day off after the physical pounding they received while splitting game 4 & 5. It'll be good for the NHL if they can force a Game 7.

On facebook over the past 2 months I have been in direct touch with:

(a) Rangers fans who were sure they'd Deep 6 us on the weekend B4 the playoffs commenced. (Also Pens & Caps fans who knew for certain PHI had no chance.)

(b) Verbose (and now silent) backers of the #2 seed N J Devils (who priorly had gotten great results vs. PHI)

(c) Bruins fans who surely had us beaten, down, out, gone, history, mocked, eulogized (and whatever other treatment you can render to a corpse)

(d) Habs fans who were certain history was calling their own name.

(e) And now, CHI fans who are certainly on the threshold...

Yet, let it be noted that on this date, June 9th of Anno Domini 2010, The Philadelphia Flyers are in it with a chance. That, my friends, is all you can really ask of a season or a life.

Let's Go Flyers!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 01:00 PM

They have the same chance as the Cubs.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 01:55 PM

I wanna see a game 7... go phlyers (but keep it a close score)... THEN GO BLACKHAWKS!

Is that toooo much to ask?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 08:57 PM

Did you see that slash by Keith? That kinda crap turns my stomach. Glad the slashee, Hartnell, got a goal on that play.

Pretty hard to watch. I may give it up and go to bed if that shit continues.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST,DannyC
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 12:07 AM

Great game... good series... The Flyers stood up and made CHI earn it - and they did. Congrats to The Blackhawks - they deserve it!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: Art Thieme
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 12:48 AM

I'm proud of the Hawks! Good on ya!!

An aside:

The BLACK HAWK WAR of 1832, named after the Sak chief who that name, was the only war in American history to be named after a person.

Art

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 06:47 AM

Unreal... I fell asleep sometime after the end of third period. Probably about ten seconds after. Damn that LazyBoy is comfy.

Man that was great hockey in the playoffs.

See yas next year.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 07:56 AM

Great game (saw the last 5 minutes of the overtime)and as Gnu says "See ya next year".
"GO WINGS GO"
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: DannyC
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 08:49 AM

Well then, cheers and good health to all here... till next year

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 05:33 PM

What am I gonna do until tomorrow? And even then, my choice would be France and Uruguay... Uruguay? England plays on the 12th but at 15:30 my time.

Is there any good basketball on these days?

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 06:39 PM

"Is there any good basketball on these days?"

Lakers vs Celtics!
Game 4 tonight!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 07:00 PM

Heheheee... you bet. I remember the rivalry in those games of yore. Bird was my man. Haven't seen any of it yet. The game is on at 10PM here, so I won't see much, but I will check it out.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 05:50 AM

MONTREAL - The clock is ticking down for a unique chance to own a piece of Canadian hockey history, albeit a pricey one.


Potential bidders have until 9 p.m. to put in bids Tuesday for the legendary jersey worn by Paul Henderson when he scored Team Canada's deciding goal of the 1972 Summit Series against the Soviet Union.


The catch: you'll have to cough up a little more than $340,000 to have a chance of owning the scuffed-and-stained sweater.


The sale price of the game-worn jersey, which has created an impressive buzz since bidding began last month, will be at least $309,224.


That was the bid put forward by The Jim Pattison Group, a B.C.-based company that says the jersey would be destined for a Canada-wide tour before ending up donated to this country's sports hall of fame in Calgary.


As of Tuesday morning, 29 bids had been tendered for the white No. 19 jersey worn during what is arguably the most famous goal in Canadian history.


The jersey passed from Henderson, then to Canada's trainer as a gift, and then into the hands of an unidentified private American collector.


"(The buzz) is more than we expected, but as far as price we had an idea of what it could fetch," said Marc Juteau, president of Classic Auctions, the Montreal-area company in charge of selling the jersey.


"The attention that was given to the jersey has exceeded by far what we thought it would do."


Juteau said the final hours of an auction could be very hectic and he added that a bid for $340,147 _ the new minimum bid _ could come at any minute.


The Team Canada sweater went up on the Classic Auctions website last month with an opening bid of $10,000.


Since then, other Canadian-based companies, including Molson and The Forzani Group Ltd., have waded into the auction.


Canadian Tire initially bid $200,000 with plans to use it as a store-to-store attraction for customers, but has since dropped out.


B.C. billionaire Jim Pattison made an offer on June 17, a that was still the leading bid through Tuesday morning.


It's likely that the owner of the coveted jersey won't be known until the wee hours of Wednesday.


"To know 100 per cent for sure, you'll have to wait until the auction process is over," Juteau said.


The sweater's owner, who wishes to remain anonymous, is a cancer survivor who plans to donate some of the proceeds of the eventual sale to charity, Juteau said. Henderson himself was diagnosed with cancer, chronic lymphocytic leukemia, last fall.

The jersey has already set a record for the highest price ever to be paid for a hockey item via auction, eclipsing a Bobby Orr rookie jersey that sold for $191,200.

It's also gotten more than a few Wayne Gretzky jerseys sold privately for about $250,000, believed to be the most expensive pieces in the history of hockey memorabilia.

Juteau said the Henderson item has generated about as much interest as the personal souvenir collections of Jean Beliveau and Maurice Richard, when those went on sale.

"But for one given piece," he said, "(this is) the most attention we've ever gotten."

Henderson, 67, who donated another Team Canada jersey and a stick to the Hockey Hall of Fame, has said he'd like to see this one go to Canada's Sports Hall of Fame.

Henderson was inducted into that hall in 1995.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jun 10 - 06:57 AM

MONTREAL - Paul Henderson's legendary hockey jersey fetched well over US$1 million at auction early Wednesday following a late surge of interest in the historic cloth.


The winner bid of US$1,067,538 was submitted by Mitchell Goldhar, the owner of SmartCentres, a private real estate development company based in Vaughan, Ont., north of Toronto


Marc Juteau, president of Montreal area-based Classic Auctions, says Goldhar's bid was the 42nd entered for the 38-year-old red and white jersey.


Juteau also said once the auction fees were factored in, the final price to be paid by Goldhar is actually $1.275 million.

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: 3refs
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 06:40 AM

Now, if we can just get Pat Stapleton to give up the puck!

http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/article/2008-11-13/pat-stapleton-ends-summit-series-puck-mystery

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:39 PM

3... coool!

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 04:19 PM

We're in hockey/eye candy heaven here-- our cable company added NHL HD to the lineup and there is a lot of summer programming.

Some of it is very good, some of it is crap; we're using it to catch up on all the hockey we missed 1970-present. It's a big hole to fill in, but the picture is starting to tune in nicely.

Today it's vintage Don Cherry stuff (hilarious), and last week it was late 1980's draftees.

Of course all this comes at us out of chrono order and with a lot of questionable validity/hype, but the mind sorts it all out and it's one big, summer-long party for us.

Of especial interest to me (as folks here may recall from past years' hockey threads) is the view in on the business side of the game, and of course how it has changed (and not changed) over the years.

It's all good! Vintage games, too.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: NHL Reg Season '09-'010
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jun 10 - 04:33 PM

Sounds great. Especially the vintage Sherry. >;-)