Traditional Singers on YouTube

Subject: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 08:56 AM

Traditional Singers only please! Here's a couple of gems to kick off:

Phil Tanner sings Fair Phoebe & The Dark-Eyed Sailor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xVT-vdJL4g

Jane Turriff sings Away Out On The Mountain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2UTXDIDCA

I've got some old documentary footage on video of Harry Cox and Sam Larner I hope to transfer soon...

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 09:16 AM

Hainanese singer on Youtube.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Fidjit
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 09:24 AM

Bit racist isn't it. No Revivalist need apply.

Chas

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 09:37 AM

Traditional Cree

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Vic Smith
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 09:38 AM

I've got some old documentary footage on video of Harry Cox and Sam Larner I hope to transfer soon...

Actual footage of the performers would be much more interesting.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 01:03 PM

From Russia to.......and so often a helluva lot livelier than English...

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: johnadams
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 01:19 PM

Hmm. Perhaps we'll be able to judge if someone posts a link to English traditional singers as opposed to the ones above.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: DebC
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 01:41 PM

Suibhne O'Piobaireachd wrote: I've got some old documentary footage on video of Harry Cox and Sam Larner I hope to transfer soon...

And Vic Smith responded: Actual footage of the performers would be much more interesting.

When I was in Yorkshire last summer, a friend had a video copy of Sam Larner and Harry Cox that was made by the BBC in 1964, but was never aired. It was a half hour documentary called "The Singer and the Song", I think.

I am sure this might be what Suibhne is referring to.

Debra

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 01:51 PM

I have bookmarked a beautiful 'Jean Ritchie sings "Sweet William & Lady Margaret"' on youtube.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: RTim
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 02:21 PM

I have a copy of - "The Singer and the Song" as well - it's great.

Tim Radford

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 02:25 PM

It is indeed the Singer & the Song; I was thinking of sticking it up in 3 parts to allow a brief glimpse into a not so long vanished world before the powers that be request I take it down.

Meanwhile, here's Paddy Tunney:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W8KHz5Gbvk

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 03:45 PM

Funny, it was just today I was looking for a decent version of Through Bushes and Through Briars on Youtube, and couldn't find one.

Anyone else have better luck?

Thanks
Sue

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,Lewis Becker
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 05:02 PM

There are some Copper family songs and two good Sheila Stewart songs (Andrew Lammie (search under Stewarts of Blairgowrie - with Ewan nad Peggy watching) and Jamie Foyers). But I find the line too narrow - how classify youtube submissions of Frank Harte, Anne Briggs (audio only), Dolores Keane, for a few. Lew

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 05:22 PM

YOu may find several listed on the Mudcat Youtube Folkmusic Permathread.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,99
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 07:24 PM

Suegorgeous: You'll find at least one. Use the title

Bushes & Briars.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 07:26 PM

Idiot here. There's the link for "Bushes & Briars".

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 07:27 PM

You'll find scads if you use

Bushes and Briars

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: michaelr
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 08:34 PM

Most of them are the Sandy Denny song, though. Which is a fine song, as well...

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 08:43 PM

Yes, I found him, and one other, a woman. Apart from that, nothing. And I don't mean the Sandy Denny song.

What are scads?

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 08:59 PM

'scads' just a Brit term 4 'lots&lots'. I quite liked the tailcoated group of gents harmonising the RVW version of Bushes&Briars; but I can see why it would not count as part of your search 4 a 'decent' rendering, SueG.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 09:25 PM

Hmmm, didn't see any tailcoated gents. I obviously need to look harder! do you have a link to it?

I'm British, but never heard of scads before..... :)

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 14 Dec 09 - 09:34 PM

Ah well, we live & learn.

Haven't a URL — but I just googled 'Youtube bushes and briars' and the tailcoated gents headed the resultant menu. Try it & let me know.

Btw - if you British, Sue: obvsly another insomniac. My sleep pattern all to hell since my wife died 2¼ yrs ago - what's your excuse for being up & mudcatting this time of night?! [Don't mean 2B nosy - if ? impertinent, just ignore — but I am like the man in Little Dorrit: I want to know, you know.]

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Goose Gander
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 12:28 AM

From Roscoe Holcomb . . .

John Hardy

Old Smokey

Little Birdy + Graveyard Blues

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 04:42 AM

Thanks for those, Goose Gander.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 04:50 AM

YOu may find several listed on the Mudcat Youtube Folkmusic Permathread.

I think you're confusing folk with traditional here. This thread is to celebrate the rare instances of traditional singers on YouTube - source singers, call 'em what you will - not folk revival singers.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 05:32 AM

Will Noble sings the Holmfirth Anthem


Will Noble sings The Mistletoe Bough

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: ard mhacha
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 06:04 AM

Great Thread, listen to Roscoe Holcomb and of course Paddy Tunney, thanks.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Ringer
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 06:58 AM

"Scads" is British? I've never come across it except is a Neville Shute book called "Beyond the Black Stump," where it was definitely used by an Australian. (It must be 45 years since I read BTBS; I wish my memory of more recent things were as good!)

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 07:16 AM

Interesting, Ringer. That was my impression but not according to Chambers or the US version of Ox Dict! Oh, well; scads of room for speculation...

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 09:42 AM

M - I have terrible sleep patterns - have always found it hard to just stop and go to bed, and now I'm not going out to work, I oversleep next day, and so it goes on.... every few days I make myself get up early, to make sure things don't get too out of hand.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Goose Gander
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 10:22 PM

From Joe Heaney . . .

Seosamh O hEanaí - Cúnla

Bean Pháidín

Cunla

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Goose Gander
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 10:35 PM

From Nimrod Workman . . .

Forty-Two Years

I Want to Go Where Things are Beautiful (Gabriel's Trumpet)

Nimrod Workman talks about his songs followed by Lord Daniel.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 09:40 AM

Not a singer, but a Catskill NY fiddler, aged 70, circa 1929, who uses a dolly-peg for a mute & spits on his pegs to make them stick - in fact, he spits rather a lot, and maintains a professional composure throughout the various takes. This is the pure drop!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_q4m4PeEMA

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Howard Jones
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 09:52 AM

If you follow SOP's link to the Phil Tanner clip and click on "more from oldfolkathome" you'll see some more links, including Johnny Doughty, Bob Hart, Fred Jordan, Jasper Smith and the Coppper Family.

Lovely stuff.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: The Sandman
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 10:23 AM

someone asked for bushes and briars here it is.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojVFPeU0YQU
hope this is decent well its not indecent anyway a revivaist version

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: IanC
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 10:23 AM

Hi

Interested in the Coppper Family stuff ... are they different from the Coppers?

;-)

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Beer
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 10:24 AM

A little Metis traditional fiddling. The tune is not traditional Metis though.
Beer (adrien)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGtckNUY7b8

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,Jon Dudley
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 12:48 PM

The Coppers/The Copper Family are one and the same. I doubt if there's any Youtube of Bob and Ron Copper (Who were The Copper Family after the passing of John and Jim and before the arrival to the singing of Bob's kids John and Jill) but I can't be sure. The young Coppers are the offspring of John Copper and his sister Jill and their respective spouses...however they are The Copper Family too of course and used their 'Young' moniker when they were indeed young!...now they should properly be called The Copper Family too along with with John, Jill and Jill's husband. Confused...so are we.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 02:19 PM

Very nice interpretation, Dick.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,suegorgeous
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 03:59 PM

last post was me

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: peregrina
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 04:08 PM

Dillard Chandler sings 'Carolina Lady'

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Surreysinger
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 04:44 PM

Can I join in with comments re "scads" .. British born and bred, I've never heard that term before either(and I go back quite a long way). As to Jon's definitions of the Coppers/Copper Family ... I got a bit confused there when I realised he was referring to himself in the third person :-)

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 05:54 PM

Dillard Chandler sings...

You've made my day; in fact, my year (thus far...)

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: peregrina
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 04:46 PM

more Dillard: 'A Soldier Travelling from the North'
from Smithsonian Folkways' wonderful youtube channel--lots more to browse there...

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 09:07 AM

refresh

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Brian Peters
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 10:19 AM

Just for interest, re the query by Suegorgeous five years ago, there's a good reason she couldn't find a traditional rendition of 'Bushes and Briars' on Youtube. It seems to have been quite rare in tradition, with only a handful of versions on The Full English and only a couple more in Roud. All of those versions have slightly 'vanilla' major key tunes, except for one: the rather nice modal / minor tune used in 'Far from the Madding Crowd' and popular on the folk scene was collected by Vaughan Williams from a Mr. Pottipher at Ingrave, Essex. RVW noted the tune in straight 3:4 time (it gets sung much more freely these days, and is better for it IMO), and only wrote down one verse, adding the rest later from a broadside. So, yet again, a folk revival favourite turns out to be - at least to some extent - a fake! Oh dear, back to New Penguin...

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Lighter
Date: 06 Feb 14 - 11:19 AM

> So, yet again, a folk revival favourite turns out to be - at least to some extent - a fake!

Which should tell us plenty about the difference between popular and educated tastes!

Tangentially: there are numerous YouTube recordings of "The Crabfish," including one unison version sung by two or maybe three generations of a nice American family somewhere in Dixie. (The video is called "The Crawfish," even they they clearly sing "codfish")

"Heartbreak Hotel" provides the tune for one singer.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Brian Peters
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 04:24 AM

I haven't managed to find that crabfish / codfish song, but how nice to hear that folk creativity lives on!

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Tradsinger
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:34 AM

Hello Brian,

I have a recording of an ex-Rn chap singing the Lobster to the tune of Heartbreak hotel. Send me your email address and I'll send you an mp3.

Tradsinger

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Tradsinger
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:39 AM

Here's one I recorded earlier.   Ray Driscoll sings "Oh Mariners All" (Jug of This).

Tradsinger

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:14 AM

Here's one I put up earlier this year;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSon_CIrac0
This is Fred Jordan singing at Whitby Folk Week.
enjoy

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: it'smagic
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 10:24 AM

A lot of traditional singers here - at least singers of traditional Scots songs from the Greig-Duncan collection. This is a project of the University of Edinburgh. The YT channel is CeltScotVideos.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 01:01 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsxG06FMA-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xVT-vdJL4g

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Lighter
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 04:05 PM

Try

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX1D8kJrSbM

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW16Q_hVTB4&feature=related

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 05:43 PM

The Rose Of Allendale!

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: GUEST,Mike Yates
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 11:45 AM

A couple of points. 1. According to Partridge, "Scads" means "Much; e.g. 'scads of money': adopted, ca. 1935, from US, esp. by would be 'slick' thriller-writers." And 2. If you like Dillard Chandler, get hold of the Smithsonian Folkways CD & DVD set "Dark Holler - Old Love Songs and Ballads" (SFW CD 40159). The DVD is a copy of John Cohen's film "The End of an Old Song". It captures Dillard, his music and his comunity far better than anything before, or since.

Subject: RE: Traditional Singers on YouTube
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 12:43 PM

traditional singers and singers of traditional songsare not the same thing according to collectors of songs.