BS: Jazz has REAL police.

Subject: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Darowyn
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 04:15 AM

The 'what is folk' threads generate a lot of vitriolic comment on here, but despite many references to the Folk Police, I've never heard of the actual Police being called to prevent an unapproved song being sung.
The Jazz people really take it seriously, and one fan called the Police to a concert he did not consider to be Jazz.
Here's the story:-
Jazz Police in The Guardian
Clearly it really matters to some people!
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 05:05 AM

Tee hee! I think we should welcome the Spanish complainant to Mudcat - he'd go a treat here...

There used to be huge debates in the jazz fraternity over the years about the nature of jazz, and what it ought or oughtn't to be. Good to see it's not all settled into peace and calm just yet!

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 05:11 AM

Only half a story here, tho. I mean, how long did it take the police to respond to the call? What did they do when they got there? Whom, if anyone, did they arrest, and on what charge? The imagination boggles ...

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 05:12 AM

FURTHERMORE - what is this doing below the line? A music thread if ever I saw one? [&, yes, Joe, I know it's policy to leave a thread where OP chose to put it, but there are surely exceptions?]

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Ernest
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 07:12 AM

German Jazz Police

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 10:26 AM

How can those guys call themselves the Jazzpolizei when the banjo player is clearly using a five-string banjo in clear violation of the four-string plectrum banjo ordinance?

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Lox
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 10:30 AM

He was let off on grounds of diminished responsibility ...

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 10:47 AM

Was he responsible for just playing diminished chords then?

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: pdq
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 11:02 AM

This may have had something to do with a diminished fifth.

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 11:02 AM

"Police decided to investigate after an angry jazz buff complained that the Larry Ochs Sax and Drumming Core group was on the wrong side of a line dividing jazz from contemporary music.

The jazz purist claimed his doctor had warned it was "psychologically inadvisable" for him to listen to anything that could be mistaken for mere contemporary music.

According to a report in El País newspaper yesterday, the khaki-clad police officers listened to the saxophone-playing and drumming coming from the festival stage before agreeing that the purist might, indeed, have a case.

His complaint against the organisers, who refused to return his money, was duly registered and will be passed on to a judge."

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Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 11:56 AM

I have my own, personal definition. If it puts me to sleep, it's jazz.

I'm not trying to be a smart-alec here. I think it's something to do with the lack of rhythm, but unless it suddenly blares loudly, jazz puts me to sleep.

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 12:23 PM

"...jazz puts me to sleep."

I have Comcast for my TV, and the 2nd tier includes maybe 30+ channels of music, including 2 of jazz. I often put on "smooth jazz" on a tiny little TV, turn the brightness way down, and set the timer to turn off in an hour or so.

If they had Sitar music, I'd use it also...but jazz works fine.

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 12:26 PM

I think it's something to do with the lack of rhythm

Lack of rhythm? Jazz? Really? What have you been listening to... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 01:06 PM

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Who BTW was the genius who defined Modern Jazz as "Variaitons on a non-existent theme"?

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Will Fly
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 01:15 PM

Ah, but what do you mean by "modern" jazz - bebop? freeform? Coltrane? Parker? Shepp? Garbarek? Brubeck? Bailey?

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Art Thieme
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 01:18 PM

As ever it has been----and will be.

Recall when Charlie Parker had the audacity to have Red Rodney, a white guy, in his jazz combo that was touring through the American southland. The police came and would've busted them all except for the fact that Bird explained that Red was not a white man----he was an albino. That made it kosher--to mix a metaphor of sorts.

And the beat went on...

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: pdq
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 01:18 PM

...Modern Jazz Quartet, Ornette Coleman...

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: The Sandman
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 02:17 PM

Is there a Daniel o Donnell police,if not there should be,does he sing the unfortunate cup of tea ?

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 02:43 PM

Dick: O'Donnell not folk, but a harmless, if to me boring, pop-singer with quite a nice voice. How does he fit in with theme of this thread?; & in what way do you find him more objectionable than so many others of the same sort that you so emphatically have it in for him? This not meant as any sort of get at you, personally; I really am just interested.

Subject: RE: BS: Jazz has REAL police.
From: Boho
Date: 22 Dec 09 - 11:39 PM

When I do a forum search for "jazz" I get zero results. "Jazzy" tho brings up several threads.