Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Howard Jones Date: 16 Jun 10 - 09:27 AM I'm not interested in football but a World Cup is so hard to avoid that I usually get drawn into watching a few matches. Not this time, not with that racket going on. I'm sure a lot of other casual viewers (who I would guess normally make up a significant proportion of the total) feel the same. It is sure to have an effect on viewing figures. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Jun 10 - 08:40 PM By the way, I hate the bloody things to pieces. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Jun 10 - 08:37 PM Easy, tiger. Vuvuzelas were not invented for the World Cup. As for your assertion that this is general attack on noise-makers at matches, well I haven't heard much of anything bar contumely directed specifically at vuvuzelas. Making noises with mechanical gizmos at matches is time-honoured. When I was a little lad 50 years ago watching Bury FC from the terraces there a bloke banging a bass drum all through the match behind me and a bunch of blokes with wooden football rattles a foot long in front. Beware the stench of imperialism! |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: gnu Date: 15 Jun 10 - 08:30 PM Steve.... BULLSHIT. Nobody it shitting on the people of Africa. Just shitting on the rude and arrogant manners of EVERYONE who uses noise makers at sporting events... horns, drums, whatever. Your comment is equally rude and arrogant. Good manners are good manners. Noise makers are used by, ah, er, "others". |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Jun 10 - 08:19 PM I meant "want to ban them." |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Jun 10 - 08:18 PM "Vuvuzelas? I'm sorry, I thought these were Argentinan sexual organs, only occasionally known to produce music..." An Argentine lady called Dinah Had a music box in her vagina The boys they had larks To the sweet sound of Bach's Toccata and fugue in D minor |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Steve Shaw Date: 15 Jun 10 - 08:15 PM So the vulvuzela-haters what to ban them. Ho hum. Nothing surprising then about out national instinct to dictate to the people of Africa how to behave... |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: catspaw49 Date: 15 Jun 10 - 07:57 PM IDEAL VUVUZELA TECHNIQUE Perfect......Absolutely perfect............ Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: bubblyrat Date: 15 Jun 10 - 06:43 PM I thought that they originated in an Egyptian brothel ?? Vuvuzelas = Suez Vulva |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: bobad Date: 15 Jun 10 - 06:16 AM Vuvuzela filters |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 15 Jun 10 - 04:04 AM It's a carefully orchestrated distraction technique, designed to put off those who aren't used to it. It's obvious! Vuvuzelas = Zulu Savve. Smart huh? Don |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Dave the Gnome Date: 15 Jun 10 - 03:55 AM The beeb are considering having a 'red button' function to mute them on the TV - Sounds a good option to me but I will probably leave them blaring. DeG |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Clontarf83 Date: 14 Jun 10 - 08:57 PM Hate them. South africans are making a big mistake by pissing everyone off, and FIFA are lunatics not to ban them outright at games. I'm not going to watch any more games---get a headache each time. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Lonesome EJ Date: 14 Jun 10 - 07:53 PM Then you'd need vuvuzelectomy, right? |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: catspaw49 Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:55 PM I think that everyone who has one stuck in his mouth needs another crammed up his ass.........Just my opinion of course and yours may vary but if it does you too need one crammed up your ass! Spaw |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Les from Hull Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:35 PM Sure the noise is annoying but it's very much a part of South African football. I think it's great to see the fans having a good time. Although I do miss the various chants and songs. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:55 PM Just the thing to drive away the neighbor's cat. A pack of 12 going on Ebay at $75;, one with coca-cola adv., asking $25 |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: gnu Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:32 PM AHA! A health concern. A way to end this crap. Let's hope FIFA is concerned about the health of fans. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: PoppaGator Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:26 PM On US TV, (ABC/ESPN), the stupid horns are audible, of course, but much less so (to my ears) than during last year's broadcasts of the "practice" (or "shakedown") tournament held in South Africa. Seems to me that the audio technicians found some kind of way to de-emphasize the background noise in relation to the main soundtrack (the commentators). If I knew the sport really well (i.e., if I had grown up with it, like boys around the world outside the US), I'd probably turn the sound down/off. But as a casual and uninformed fan, I need all the information I can get. The current World Cup is providing an unprecedented amount of coverage, and I expect to learn a great deal about the sport by the time the Cup has been won. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Amos Date: 14 Jun 10 - 03:12 PM Vuvuzelas? I'm sorry, I thought these were Argentinan sexual organs, only occasionally known to produce music... |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Mrrzy Date: 14 Jun 10 - 02:19 PM Which sounds like a pussy-fart, I'm sorry, but it does. Couldn't they call them something else? |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Bainbo Date: 14 Jun 10 - 01:11 PM Trouble is, you can hear the vuvuzelas just as clearly on the radio. In fact, it's worse, because you don't have the pictures to distract you. Funny you should mention F1. I turned on my car radio to hear the South Korea-Greece game, and my first thought was: "Oh no! Why are thy carrying bloody motor racing now?" before I realised it was the vuvuzelas. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Dave the Gnome Date: 14 Jun 10 - 09:30 AM I just try to ignore the noise. And any obvious anagrams... :D (eG) |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Lox Date: 14 Jun 10 - 09:10 AM Yes - Radio commentary is always a million time better and 5 live is the best of all! I was going to make a comparison with formula 1 racing. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 14 Jun 10 - 09:10 AM After seeing this Mark Knight cartoon - 14/06/10 I had to come back to Mudcat to see what 'cats were writing on this thread. I'm not interested in football or any sport & had never heard of vuvuzelas so checked the sport page of my news site & only found 11 references, like this one - Everywhere I travel in the country my ears ring with the sound of the vuvuzela. The plastic trumpet was once heard only at football matches. Today men, women and children blow the vuvuzela anywhere and anytime. It's as if they're heralding a coming of age. Last night I got little sleep, vuvuzelas were blasting outside my window. South Africans want the world to know; their time has arrived. eek, I've been reading the SPORTS page, gotta get back to the real world of folk music. sandra |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Stu Date: 14 Jun 10 - 08:57 AM Do 5 Live do a commentary? I always switch the F1 from the monotonous monotone ramblings of messrs. Brundle and Legard to the far more entertaining and informative radio commentary via the red button. If the same happens in the footy it's worth a try. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Backwoodsman Date: 14 Jun 10 - 07:43 AM And don't your tellies have a volume control? Turn it down - then as a bonus, you don't have to listen to commentators, who love the sound of their own voices, talking drivel about the game and pouring out totally meaningless statistics of the level of "England only managed a draw in the first game in 1966, and went on to win the Cup". What's that all about - it was 44 years ago - none of our current squad was even born then? |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Backwoodsman Date: 14 Jun 10 - 07:39 AM Loud and raucous they may be, but the unconditional joy of the African supporters in the Ghana v. Serbia match was truly heartwarming, and a wonderful change from the aggressive posturing and obscene chanting of a large percentage of fans at any British match. I'd rather listen to a million Vuvuzelas at full blast than one chant of 'You're gonna get your fuckin' head kicked in'. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: theleveller Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:23 AM "Is that what Tinnitus is like?" My tinnitus came as a welcome relief after the din of these instruments. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Leadfingers Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:23 AM What about a vuvuzela Didgeridoo duet >?? |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Stu Date: 14 Jun 10 - 06:09 AM "Is that what Tinnitus is like?" Actually, not far from the truth. Mine is a bit like that but much higher in pitch. As for loving it if I was there, not at 127 ear-bleedinbg decibels I wouldn't; the last thing I need is worse tinnitus. "Why should we impose our idea of what is or isn't enjoyable on it." Totally agree, but the organising CEO believes singing and dancing would be better and the instruments are made in China anyway, so it's not keeping the locals in underpants. Let's face it, we can't hear the band playing The Great Escape over the din either? |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: bobad Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:54 AM For those in the stands, the horns can actually be dangerous. Blaring at 127 decibels, they can cause hearing damage in less than 15 minutes, a Swiss firm announced. For comparison, a pneumatic drill is 125 decibels, the same level where loudness charts say "pain begins." Fans go to games equipped with earplugs marketed as "Vuvu-Stop." |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Richard Bridge Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:53 AM Good god! A valuable use for banjos! |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Arthur_itus Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:45 AM Is that what Tinnitus is like? If so, I can understand how people go bonkers with it. Ban the buggers. It wouldn't be so bad if they could play tunes with them. How do they get the huff and puff to keep that up for 90 minutes. Do you think it could catch on in Uk sessions? Just think how great that would be. Come and join the Vuvuzelas Session for a wonderful night of sound. No other instruments allowed, except for banjo players, who have the permission of the MC to go around the group trying to see how many vuvuzelas thay can knock down the player's throat's. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: theleveller Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:42 AM I'm not much of a football fan, but tried to watch a bit of the Germany/Australia game and had to give up as the constant drone (in B flat below middle C, I believe) brought on a huge headache. As soon as I left the room it went away. Strange! Is this a traditional instrument, maybe used by the Zulus to intimidate their enmies in battle (like the bagpipes)? I lived in South Africa for 2 years and never came across it before. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Lox Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:40 AM This is an African World Cup and its character should reflect African culture. Why should we impose our idea of what is or isn't enjoyable on it. If you were there you'd be loving it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Geoff the Duck Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:28 AM I've heard chants from football fans. Perhaps we should buy the South Africans bagpipes... Quack! GtD. |
Subject: RE: BS: Vuvuzelas From: gnu Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:25 AM Should have BEEN banned... long ago. ALL noise makers. |
Subject: BS: Vuvuzelas From: Stu Date: 14 Jun 10 - 05:14 AM Should the sound of a million angry bees be banned so we can finally hear the songs and chants of fans? |