BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'

Subject: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: open mike
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 02:34 PM

Please sign the petition--see the link in this message--please pass on

The media conglomerate Discovery Communications used to be known for their earth-friendly offerings. But they've just paid millions to Sarah Palin to host a "nature" show, despite her decidedly anti-environmental stance: She vocally advocates for habitat-destroying oil drilling, she denies global warming is a human-caused threat, and she spearheaded a brutal wolf-slaughter program as governor of Alaska.

It's one thing if Fox News gives Sarah Palin a platform. But when Discovery Communications -- home to the Discovery Channel, the "Planet Earth" series, the Science Channel, Animal Planet, and TreeHugger.com -- gives a show to Sarah Palin, it undercuts everything the Discovery brand has come to represent.

Anti-environmentalism has no place in the Discovery Communications lineup. Join me in demanding that the company cancel "Sarah Palin's Alaska" before it airs. Just go to the link below to send your message. Thank you.

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/palin_discovery/?r_by=-3315197-Nrb8J7x&rc=paste1

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Previous Thread: Sarah Palin's Alaska

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 02:47 PM

link

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 02:53 PM

I just wrote to suggest two more possible shows:

"Zoltan Bakonyi's Hungary"

and

"Richard Speck's Nursing School".

What are they thinking?

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 02:57 PM

Already signed it. Got it in my e-mail some time back.

Shooting wolves from a low-flying plane and field-dressing a freshly killed moose. The woman is a walking, talking environmental disaster! Ye gawds, what are those folks at the Discovery Channel thinking of!??

If at all!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 03:07 PM

'Nature Show'?

She's not going to strip off is she?

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: gnu
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 03:08 PM

"Shooting wolves from a low-flying plane and field-dressing a freshly killed moose."

I wonder why they felt they had to cull wolves? Musta been a reason, no? Anyone know?

As far as guttin (field dressing) a moose, well, that's what you do after you get one. It'd go bad in no time if ya didn't gut it and hang it proper.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 03:16 PM

Dont you dare bring reason into this thread you little troll gnu!! :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 03:23 PM

Musta been a reason, no?

For fun? Some people are like that.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: gnu
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 03:26 PM

McGrath... I think it's against the law to shoot animals from choppers... even for fun.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: pdq
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 03:51 PM

"...her decidedly anti-environmental stance: She vocally advocates for habitat-destroying oil drilling, she denies global warming is a human-caused threat, and she spearheaded a brutal wolf-slaughter program as governor of Alaska."

Oh, for Christ's sake. Sarah Palin is being painted as the Anti-Christ by her political enemies. She is not to blame for any of these issues.

"Defenders of Wildlife has launched an online petition urging Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to undo his action this spring, when he took wolves in the Rockies off the Endangered Species list and stripped them of federal protections. The group hopes to get 100,000 signatures. It has 90,347 so far."

Wolves are being hunted in Montana, Idaho and Alberta that I know of. Do you blame Palin for those hunts too?

If we use oil, we are going to have to drill somewhere and Akaska is much safer than drilling 18,000 foot deep holes in the Gulf of Mexico.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: SINSULL
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 03:56 PM

I thought this was about Bristol Palin's overexposure on that dancing show. It's like watching a train wreck. Too horrible not to watch.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: gnu
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 04:22 PM

Bristol rhymes with Pistol. Oh my god! Yer right! Sarah is a gun crazed killer!

Not that I like her on any political level. She's a uneducated twit who just happens to be drop dead gorgeous with an attitude and connections. (Ah, "connections"... I assumed that, because there HAS to be an explanation, no?)

Sorry, Ake, if that seems trolling. I know you like to be top troll, but I consider my comments to be factual rather than inflaming.

In any case, as this thread will reach a zillion posts with no conclusion(s) and will be based on feelings rather than facts, I shall check back from time to time and offer my inane comments.

In the meantime, if any tree huggers have valid reasons why the wolves should not have been culled or why Sarah should not enjoy a moozzzeburger, PM me in case I miss it eh wha'?

PS... I've said it before... me and Sarah in a chopper on auto hover... as long as she only talks naughty... I gotta take a hot shower... gnightgnu.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 04:22 PM

``Ye gawds, what are those folks at the Discovery Channel thinking of!?``

MONEY, Don.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 04:22 PM

"Wolves are being hunted in Montana, Idaho and Alberta that I know of. Do you blame Palin for those hunts too?"

Very controversial issues in those states and the matter is still being fought in the courts.

Palin is all in favor of drilling for oil in all of the national parks. It's bloody-well high time that we start looking for alternative energy sources, but the oil companies--and the politicians--want to wring the planet dry first.

As a scientist friend of mine (who just happens to be politically very conservative) said, "Considering all the essential products, including such things as pharmaceuticals, that we make from petroleum, to burn huge quantities of it simply to produce energy is a crime against the future!"

But all these Bozos think of is the next financial quarter's bottom line.

Stupid! Really stupid!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 04:23 PM

Guest post above was me.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 04:34 PM

Regrettably I cannot sign the petition since it will not recognise non-US addresses

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: BTNG
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 04:41 PM

"Akaska (Alaska I presume) is much safer than drilling 18,000 foot deep holes in the Gulf of Mexico."

Blimey! what drugs are you on....

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 06:21 PM

Unfortunately wolves are hunted, and are being killed from airplanes in Alaska. (Each state makes its own rules)
See Alaska wolves

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: GUEST,John.
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 07:52 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 07:55 PM

Done with the simple comment, "Shame on you..."

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Ed T
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 08:46 PM

I might watch it if Sarah had a naturist program.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 08:56 PM

I might watch it if Miss Sarah appeared nude...

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Ed T
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 09:03 PM

Nude in Alaska?
Hopefully, in summer.

Otherwise it may be a bit nippy.
But, it would perk her up.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Ed T
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 09:16 PM

Would Sarah do this?
Elk wrestling

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 09:54 PM

No, no, no! You guys are looking at the picture from the wrong angle! If Sarah Palin fronts a TV nature show, she has to go out into nature. Nature is dangerous! She could fall into a crevasse on a glacier. Or she could be eaten by a Polar Bear. Or maybe a bull walrus will mistake her for his mate and crush her while trying to give her the old petrified blubber injection.

Don't try to prevent Sarah from being on TV! Demand more of her! Write to Discovery and tell them Sarah needs to host programs about hang gliding, base jumping, white water snorkling, cobra milking and other dangerous stuff!

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Oct 10 - 11:30 PM

>>I might watch it if Miss Sarah appeared nude.<<

Though Mrs Palin is no doubt better than being nude than she is at governing, no doubt there are many many young women better qualified than her at even that.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 12:30 AM

"I wonder why they felt they had to cull wolves? Musta been a reason, no? Anyone know?" gnu

No real bones made about it, gnu. They say that wolves and bears take too many moose so they're leveling the playing field.

In actuality, they make clear that it is not the moose they are trying to protect but the hunter.

And it is not the culling of wolves that is so controversial in Alaska, it's the inherent obscenity of locating a wolf pack from air and then firing from the plane or helicopter until the entire pack is dead. There are horrific videos showing the desperate efforts the wolves make to get away. There is no way that the wolves can escape because of the long view from the air.

It used to be the law that wolves could be spotted from a plane, yes, but the plane then had to land and the hunters had to track them on foot.

That policy was changed under Palin, even though the voters of Alaska voted against it.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 12:31 AM

As for her 'Nature show' there is only one way to stop it: Don't watch.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: LadyJean
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 12:40 AM

I signed, and added, Haven't we had enough of that media whoring bespectacled bitch?

I say it again, haven't we had enough? Haven't we?

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 01:04 AM

Sheesh What's 'bespectacled' got to do with it? Since when is that word pejorative? Curious.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 02:42 AM

I can't sign as it requires a US address, but I have posted the link on my Facebook

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: open mike
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 03:31 AM

does the site accept votes from Canadians? Are there other places where the discovery channel is broadcast besides u.s.?

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: akenaton
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 05:50 AM

"And it is not the culling of wolves that is so controversial in Alaska, it's the inherent obscenity of locating a wolf pack from air and then firing from the plane or helicopter until the entire pack is dead. There are horrific videos showing the desperate efforts the wolves make to get away. There is no way that the wolves can escape because of the long view from the air."

Is there some sort of parallel here, between the culling of wolves in Alaska, and Mr Obamas drone policy on the Pakistani border?
Of course, Mr Obama does not actually press the button and the victims are not American four legged furry creatures, but brown skinned men women and children, a few of whom may be terrorists/freedom fighters/ fundamentalists.....so thats all right then!

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: gnu
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 06:01 AM

Ebbie... hunters? Private hunters? Not government employees?... biologists?

I am shocked to say the least.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 06:32 AM

Wolves have no rifles

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 11:01 AM

Sport hunters. They don't sell pelts, they display trophies.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 01:39 PM

``I signed, and added, Haven't we had enough of that media whoring bespectacled bitch?``


I love the juxtaposition of the poster`s name and the post. Could not agree more. Bien dit.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Sawzaw
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 02:31 PM

I wonder why some women feel superior to Sarah Palin?

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 02:35 PM

"Don't try to prevent Sarah from being on TV! Demand more of her! Write to Discovery and tell them Sarah needs to host programs about hang gliding, base jumping, white water snorkling, cobra milking and other dangerous stuff!"

Yeh, maybe we can get her to go swimming with stingrays.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: pdq
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 02:37 PM

"As for her 'Nature show' there is only one way to stop it: Don't watch" ~ Ebs


Actually, Palin's show may draw a lot of new people to The Discovery Channel making them enough money that they can expand their lineup.

They do quality programming and deserve your support, not a poorly-conceived boycott.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 03:02 PM

sheesh/em> Why call it a boycott? How else do you think a show disappears?

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: gnu
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 03:41 PM

Ed T.... "Would Sarah do this? Elk wrestling"

I had to turn that off. That is one of the most sickening displays of "sensationalism" crap I have ever witnessed. Torturing that elk for the purpose of "exciting TV" is beyond reality. The justification given is ludicrous and obviously far more dangerous to the elk.

I would only consider watching the whole vid if someone told me a bull charges and gores that miserable fucking asshole... and Perkins too.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: GUEST,999--that was me above. I have slapped my w
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 03:43 PM

`I wonder why some women feel superior to Sarah Palin?`

I`m puzzled how any woman could feel inferior to Palin.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: gnu
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 03:56 PM

You obviously cavort with a better sort than some of us have, 999. >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 04:06 PM

People should enjoy and use our National Parks. I wonder if one can go to Yellowstone of Yosemite National Parks and start shooting Bison, wolves and Deer. IF so, semi automatic weapons and RPGs should make good sport of it.

Like it or not the Bush-Roberts Supreme Court in the Citizens United decision has decreed that Corporations are real live citizens and are entitled to all the rights and protections and freedom of speech of a living human being. Freedom speech for a corporation actually means the freedom to use unlimited money to shape and buy Federal and Stae Elections for their own prosperity. In some ways corporations are more than human in that they are immune from being prosecuted of a capital crime.
Corporations should and can enjoy and use our National Parks.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Sarah Palin's Alaska'
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 05:37 PM

It's good more people have finally found out about this. I brought the issue up 1 April 2010. Sorry it was not an April Fools joke.

Signing a petition is fine as far as it goes, but more important, as I said earlier, is to find out the sponsors of her show and threaten to boycott them, also encouraging others to do the same--perhaps through Facebook or similar media.    This needs to "go viral."

Make no mistake, goal of this show is a "warm and fuzzy" Sarah, in contrast to her current combative persona.   And it could work with people undecided about her.

Also it's too bad some people still think she is a joke punchline.

She is in fact already the front-runner for the Republican 2012 nomination--as I've also noted months earlier.

Then the question will be if unemployment is down--it must be down considerably below 9% by about the end of 2011. If not, she might well win against the President.    She is a masterful demagogue and if the unemployment rate has not drastically sunk by then, voters will be looking for a scapegoat.

What's more, even if the unemployment rate is down, if most of the new jobs (primarily service sector) pay worse than the old ones, Obama will still have a bad problem.

It's past time to take her seriously.

Subject: RE: BS: 'Sarah Palin's Alaska'
From: Sawzaw
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 05:48 PM

Why are there so many women that feel superior to Sarah Plain?

Subject: RE: BS: 'Sarah Palin's Alaska'
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 06:03 PM

That's misleading. You only see one side on Mudcat political threads.

There are lots of non-liberal women who say things like "I have Sarah Palin values". And also probably think it's time for a woman president.

One of the many factors which makes her a serious danger.

Anybody who doubts this, check her website. And she has about 2 million followers there.   I don't think they're all Mudcatters ridiculing her.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: artbrooks
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 06:16 PM

Let's put this in perspective, shall we? This is the same network that shows such class programs as "American Chopper" and "Overhaulin'" about rebuilding motorcycles and junk cars, respectively; "Swamp Loggers"; and "Dirty Jobs - Visiting Vomit Island". {All from today's and tomorrow's schedule - I mostly don't watch TV.} Seems to me that the Divine Sarah would fit right it...maybe she can point out Russia while she's at it.

Subject: RE: BS: Help stop Sarah Palin's 'Nature Show'
From: Sawzaw
Date: 22 Oct 10 - 11:47 PM

I am not a fan of Sarah Palin.

I think she has some appealing down home values that people can tune in but I don't think she is presidential material.

Too bad people are soooooooooooo Afraid of someone who is not an elitistlike them.

Mike Barnicle asked for emails on the question "Are you prepared to listen to this tone of voice for four years?"

I sent email answering his question. I said I prefer her tone of voice over your elitist tone of voice any day.

I sent it through three different web sites using contact us.

Did I get a response or an acknowledgment? Hell no. Any results posted anywhere" Not that I can find.

Mr Barnicle, are you prepared to listen to this tone of voice for four years?