BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo

Subject: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: GUEST,Alan Whitte
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:07 AM

a few more score draws on the coupon after this

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:19 AM

Eh! What's all that about Al?

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:20 AM

Funny, I don't remember anyone saying that before about 1939.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:27 AM

That should read 'Cameron and the cheese eating surrender monkeys'

We're now in an alliance with this country that routinely won't let our oldest allies use their airspace. Had to have their navy bombed from under them rather than hand it over to us in the last war. dropped us in the shit at points in between.

Great move Dave!

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:33 AM

Well, Napoleon was a rather harder nut to crack. But I can see wisdom in keeping the USA out of our skies!

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:36 AM

Oldest allies? Portugal?

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:43 AM

Still can't see what this thread is getting at or refing to ··· is there perhaps a link missing in OP?

~Michael~

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: C-flat
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:46 AM

I think the story lies here...

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/11/02/uk.france.defense/?hpt=T2

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: C-flat
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:47 AM

Sorry that was just plain lazy of me..


Here

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:47 AM

It's a Francophobe thing M.
Some folks feel the same about the French, as Richard Bridge does, about Maggie Thatcher :)

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: C-flat
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 09:51 AM

Yeah well I suppose the French do come across as politically very selfish and possibly not the most obvious choice to partner.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 10:03 AM

Francophobe my ass! France is a great place. The French are nice people.

Basically though they got the shit beaten out of them, like no other nation in the first world war - lost their taste for that sort of thing, and they don't seem the ideal partners for the kind of adventures that England routinely gets involved in.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 10:05 AM

OK Al, I misread your original cryptic post :)

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Stu
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 10:10 AM

" lost their taste for that sort of thing"

Didn't stop them bombing the Rainbow Warrior though did it?

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 10:26 AM

Easy target.
They're much better at collaboration than fighting.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 10:29 AM

Well, they do make some excellent cheeses, even if (with the possible exception of the Romans and Scots, oh and maybe the Scandinavians they are our oldest enemies.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 10:38 AM

The French talk of 'perfide Albion', if you please!. Who freeloaded the whole of WWII off our hospitality & protection & then shat all over us in the name of 'La Gloire de la France' [which meant losing every war over the last 5 centuries & waiting for us & US to come & bail them out in 1944], but the egregious Charles de Gaulle? ~~ who proceeded then to express his gratitude by repeatedly crapping all over us from a great height!

I love France, though, that's the trouble. My mother had a French restaurant in London, staffed by many of my dearest friends. Some of best times of my life spent with Valerie in Paris (incl our honeymoon), Nice, Bourges ... One of proudest moments of my life was in a Paris copshop where I had gone after getting pocket picked in the Métro, & hoping to the lady-dragon Parisienne police sergeant that I could report loss of my credit cards in English ~~ "Evidement ça serait beaucoup plus facile pour moi" ~~ and her replying, "Mais malgré ça, Monsieur, vous parlez très bien le français!"

O ambivalence!!!

~Michel~ {sic!}

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 11:39 AM

I love France and French cuisine.
Though it did rather gall me once when a French exchange student told me, in all seriousness, that WW2 was won despite the cowardly British who just ran away, because of the bravery of, and refusal to give inby, the Glorious French.
If he hadn't been a foot taller than me, I'd have decked the cheeky young bugger! :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 11:47 AM

Mind you, 'taint what it was. I found out not long since that you can no longer rely on getting a decent omelette at any open air café in Paris. What is the world coming to!

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Bainbo
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 12:51 PM

Makes sense to me. We've got an aircraft carrier but no planes; they. presumably, have some planes ...

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Stu
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 12:54 PM

Actually, at the moment we've got no aircraft carriers so don't need planes. Not yet at least.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Leadfingers
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 01:51 PM

I can think of a LOT of people I would rather rely on than the French Government - A lot of the peopel are OK though !=

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 02:30 PM

Well, the French got it about right with Iraq. I might be more inclined to rely on them than the Americans. Or the British.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: GUEST,Alan Whittle
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 03:39 PM

Got it right as in "please don't drive planes into the eifel tower, WE won't do anything to offend you". Help yourself to some halal escargots and can we flog you our crappy weapons system (as used successfully by Galtieri)?

There wasn't actually a whole lot of idealism involved.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 05:16 PM

I'll settle for more common sense and less brutal stupidity. And also less respect for His Master's Voice.

Subject: RE: BS: Cameron & the cheese eating surrender mo
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Nov 10 - 04:33 AM

Did you hear about the Frenchman who fell asleep as soon as his feet touched the pillow?