BS: Sex and morality

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Joe_F
Date: 09 Nov 10 - 10:35 PM

My mommy would never do *that*!

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 03:29 AM

When I was young and very niave I thought because I was an only one my mum and dad only did it the deed once and I was so proud about that until somebody pointed out that the act would have been repeated often in order to try for me in the first place! Innocence,

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: kendall
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 11:38 AM

I don't remember thinking about it one way or the other.

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 12:51 PM

Mrzzy, what is something causes unnecessary pain but both parties enjoy it so that it adds to the happiness quotient?

LH - how do you know that cleanly chopping the neck of a chicken (or cleanly breaking the neck of a chicken) causes it pain?

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 12:57 PM

They're not as stupid as you think, Richard. They, like slaughtered pigs and cows, anticipate danger. They know they've in trouble the moment you approach and grab hold of them, and that causes the bird emotional pain, physical pain quite aside.

Tell you what. Let's chop your head off and see if it causes you any pain. We'll get a couple of big wrestlers to hold you down while the deed is done, and we'll use a large axe and do it in one clean stroke. You can tell us afterward whether it caused you any pain or not. ;-D If you remain silent, we'll assume you were "okay" with the whole thing, and suffered no pain, right?

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Nov 10 - 01:08 PM

"From 20th-Century Sexuality" - http://walkaboutsverse.webs.com/#88

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Tom - Swords & Songs
Date: 11 Nov 10 - 05:53 AM

Homophobic bullcrap, WAV.

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Nov 10 - 02:58 PM

Mrzzy, what is something causes unnecessary pain but both parties enjoy it so that it adds to the happiness quotient? - Do you mean sadists and masochists getting along? Or did you mean "what IF" insterad of what is?

I hae decided that the only immoral sex is that which you're having when your significant other walks in on you!

What did the late great genius George Carlin boil the 10 commandments down to, wasn't it something like Thou shalt be honest with the provider of thy nookie? I shall have to look that up.

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Amos
Date: 11 Nov 10 - 03:14 PM

Not that they approve of watching or thinking about it, what I meant was that generally people are pretty glad it happened somewhere in the dark and buried past, or they wouldn't have a handy bipedal meatform to drive around.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 06:14 AM

In an ideal world the one and only lover is a great idea in theory. You can love the one lover with all your mite (if you are unlucky enough to have a bad one) only then to be manipulated and controlled by him or her ruining how you can feel about anyone again. That is not love that is demoralising ownership. Immorality isn't just to do with sexual affairs or promiscuity, the constant mental bullying and the tearing down of a partner's asteem is just as immoral.

If that is what sticking with one lover is all about I would rather be just me, myself and I.

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 06:45 AM

But I don't think that is what it is about, Patsy although I do not want a relationship now...

I think the person who has worked (and IMO and from what I've seen, it takes work, not lust) may be in a very lucky, happy and worthwhile position. As said before, I think it is rare but I have seen it.

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 06:50 AM

Right on, Patsy.

As far as I'm concerned the only truly accomplished masters in the art of love are people who manage somehow to love everyone....and I'm NOT talking about having sex with everyone when I say that, needless to say. ;-D

Further to that, the one person I think we are all intended, first and foremost, to love unconditionally is....ourself! And I'm not talking about self-centeredness when I say that. I'm talking about genuine self-love and self-acceptance (in spite of facing the fact that one is not perfect and never will be). Out of genuine self-love arises self-confidence, generosity to others, kindness to others, helpfullness to others, high ideals, courage, and every positive form of behaviour.

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 11:10 PM

indeed - Thou shalt be honest with the provider of thy nookie, and thou shalt try really hard not to kill anybody.

Unless they pray to a different invisible man than you do, he adds. But that's another thread...

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 11:28 PM

If, like me, you've ever contracted 'cosmological thunder clap' -- you've been made acutely aware that morality had absolutely no role in the sex act that made it a reality!

Art

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Amos
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 11:54 PM

The only cure is regular doses of cosmological sulfa.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: GUEST,mauvepink
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 07:10 AM

Good posting Patsy


... with one proviso. I do not see promiscuity as immoral in itself. It can be for sure but sometimes it can be a symptom of other things in a very good person. One person's promiscuity is another's open mind on fre relationships. I think to make promiscuity immoral then someone else has to be ivolved who is getting hurt in some way. But, then, often the only person getting hurt in being promiscuous is the person themselves when it is coupled as a behaviour brought about by other's damage.

In short a great many promiscuous people are not immoral and are often very lovely people who may have had a bad deal at some time.

mp

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 10:48 AM

Mrzzy - What if it's a visible woman that you pray to? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Sex and morality
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Nov 10 - 11:39 AM

Hey, I was quoting George Carlin!