BS: The worlds best pie

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 01:16 PM

rat's coffin.........   thanks Ian that's put me off me tea!

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Musket
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 12:37 PM

At the match, for many years, I liked a steak and sidney pie to go with my styrene cup of bovril.

I suppose about ten years ago, I got into Balti pies.

Now you're talking!

Impossible for me to enjoy the second half without my half time rats's coffin.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 11:57 AM

Any time Janie!

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Manuel
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 08:21 AM

Eliza, that's the spirit. I'm proud of you. Look at what they tried to do to our pure and innocent exchange of remarks!

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: mayomick
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 08:16 AM

The weight of pies can often be a problem these days. If you get sold a pie that you suspect may be underweight, there's a place you can go to get it checked out .
Somewhere over the rainbow.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 07:27 AM

LOL everyone!! Playboy Centrefold.... two buttered crumpets!!

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Paul Burke
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 04:33 PM

2πr Lord, 2πr,
2πr Lord, 2πr,
2πr Lord, 2πr,
O Lord 2πr

Very pious.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 04:09 PM

Has someone made the 3.14159265358979323846264338327... joke yet? If not, I'll get to it now.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 03:57 PM

You go ahead... I haven't been on for YEARS.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 03:40 PM

Eliza - You can drip the butter off your crumpets on me anytime...

Oh, hang on. Is that what Gnu was on about?

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 03:19 PM

Eliza... that leaves the door open for SO many replies. >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 12:35 PM

Manuel, they were indeed well-toasted, delicious, and the melted butter ran down my chin... (How to excite a man... tell him about your buttered crumpets!)

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Manuel
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 11:49 AM

GUEST Eliza is almost cruel to mention those two breakfast crumpets, well toasted as I would imagine. Now my mouth is watering!

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 10:35 AM

Siberian Peach Pie....and very hard to get. Ask my Uncle Hymie.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 10:02 AM

Holland Meat Pies

And here's the song to prove it.

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 09:57 AM

Wow, am I outdated! In my youth lard was out as unhealthy and Crisco was in, and I have simply accepted that as "truth" lo these many years.

(thanks for the education, good people.)

I have simply pretty much stayed with Canola, Olive Oil and butter for 40 years. I rarely fry anything, use butter for baking for (except for pie crusts) and simply have not paid attention.

Now, I do read that for lard to be better, it needs to be non-hydrogenated. Is that hard to find in grocery stores?

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 06:16 AM

Well, I've eaten pies made with a lot of lard in the pastry for seventy years. Also loads and loads of butter, great Hovis doorsteps with half an inch of butter. I've fried almost everything in lard, and put great dollops of butter on greens and spuds. So did my parents and grandparents. And we all lived long lives with hardly any health probs. We also liberally sprinkled things with (gasp! horror!) SALT!! I'm not questioning the science on cholesterol and salt, and I admit I'm a bit tubby (not all that much though, 12 stone) but here I am, still breathing and perfectly healthy. (And have just enjoyed two crumpets for breakfast, dripping with butter) Pies are a most superb thing, and help to make a bit of meat or fruit go a long way.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 07:48 PM

Let's here it for lard! I mean, IF yer gonna eat a slice of pie, why not have a GOOD crust? Tender and flakey and not a pile of mushy goo... top OR bottom.

Fer gosh sakes! It's PIE. It's meant to be a decadent treat. Do it right. Just don't eat two slices in one day.... if ya do, well, yer gonna be a lardass.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 07:34 PM

Crowhugger, please invite me for dessert!

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: KHNic
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 06:41 PM

High Game Pie takes a lot of beating - partridge, pheasant, veal, onion,mushroom, bacon, delicately seasoned with hints of thyme and bay.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 03:08 PM

1. My apple pie, lard in the crust, with a subtle amount of nicely balanced spice blend, filling thick enough to allow the pie to be served without collapsing but soft enough to be luscious rather than sticky.

2. My mum's lemon meringue pie recipe when I make it slightly more tart and with 20% more lemon zest (and yes, lard in the crust)

3. There used to be, on Hwy 6 in Mount Forest ON, a greasy spoon (what might be termed a diner in the USA) called Bill's, where his wife made THE most extraordinarily delicious fruit pies with totally edible crusts down to the last crumb. I used to eat some on my way to and from Festival of the Sound. Her pastry was better 'n mine. Unfortunately the place was long ago sold for retirement. If not since torn down and redeveloped, maybe the current owners have finally found a comparable baker...been ages since I was there to see what's up.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:24 AM

I think many scientists would say lard is healthy, butter is healthy, coconut oil is healthy and the Crisco is what is deadly. I vote for going with lard, after doing research to your satisfaction. Start with Dr. Mary Enig, fat researcher. mg

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Janie
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 12:00 AM

I confess I do not understand the applause for assorted custard pies -unless they be pumpkin!

Made with fresh organic pie pumpkins and honey to assuage the the conscience just a wee bit for actually using lard to create the perfect crust. The custard rich but not too sweet, and the custard   creamy but not absent a subtle texture. Lemon, coconut or key lime custards, with their intense sweetness and ultrasmooth texture don't appeal to me.

The crust makes the pie, regardless of the filling, in my book.

Any pie made with fresh fruit, as long as crust is good, appeals.

Having said that, I confess that I have never made a crust with lard - have experimented with oil, butter, coconut and all the healthy alternatives - and finally accepted that the next best thing to lard is Crisco - not nearly as healthy as the other alternatives but not nearly as lethal as lard. I've lost my touch from not cooking or baking much, but at one time was quite proud of the touch I had with pie crusts. Never, ever, however, equaled or surpassed my grandmother's lard crusts.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 11:06 PM

People often forget the part pies have played in our culture.

I used to love that musical - The King and Pie

then there was the Frank Ifield song - Pie Remember You

The geometrical equation - pies are squared

Davy Crockett - King of the Pie-on-Ears

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: ranger1
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 10:57 AM

My adopted gran's apple pies were the absolute best. We'd sneak downstairs the morning after whichever holiday it was and have a big slice for breakfast.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 09:24 AM

French apple tart has to be one of the best. It tastes and looks delicious especially with cinnamon syrup brushed over the top layer of sliced apples. The tart is delicious served hot or cold whatever the season with a dollop of whatever you fancy on top, cream, ice-cream or custard.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 08:21 AM

Mrs BAS and her mate once went into a bakers in Bolton and asked if they had any pies. The lady said, 'Eee, lass, have we got any pies? We've got every sort of pie you could want. We've got meat, we've got meat and potato, we've got shortcrust, and we've got flaky'.

Quite right too.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Musket
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 05:15 AM

I skimmed through this thread rather fast. (Anything with pies in it is going to get me to click it.)

I take it nobody has mentioned hairy pies yet?

I'll get me coat.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 07:50 PM

Oh yes I had a Hammond organ, AT LEAST IT DIDN'T COME IN MY MOUTH -LIKE A MOUTH ORGAN CAN DO.

To this day, if anyones got a nice big Farfisa.....still turns me on a bit.

Did you know Fulham FC are cALLED THE COTTAGERS.

and its not cos of their taste in pies.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 03:34 PM

It's hard to believe that people actually eat organs. To each his own. You're welcome to my share.....

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 02:37 PM

Steak and kidney pie. Lamb's kidneys and fairly inexpensive casserole beef. The best thing is not to add a load of fancy ingredients. Just chopped onion, salt and pepper. Casserole the meat and kidneys for long enough to make them tender (about 2 hrs). Thicken with Bisto gravy powder (not the granules, horrid stuff, the original powder) Allow to cool. Make the pastry with a mixture of plain and self-raising flour (about twice as much plain to SF) And use LARD (Gasp! Horror! Cholesterol!) and margarine, half fat to flour. Roll it quite thick. Make the pie up, saving most of the gravy, seal the lid with milk. Cook quite slowly for 40 minutes. Use the gravy for the meal, on top of the spuds and vegetables. It's nice cold too.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 01:41 PM

...was made by my mother.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 12:55 PM

Ours not to reason why
Ours but to eat the pie!

(Fletch in Porridge)

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Crowhugger
Date: 14 Dec 11 - 02:15 AM

Becky, it's not being in the west, it's agri-business has taken dozens of fabulous old apple varieties out of the orchards in favour of newer. I don't recall the last time I saw a Stayman for sale -- probably 30 plus years ago when I worked at a cider mill. Might still be available in Mennonite areas of Ontario but I can't say for sure.

Fortunately there are people still growing whatever varieties will survive locally, either by experimenting themselves or from old-orchard grafts, but they're becoming more and more scarce. Another gene pool almost drained.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 09:16 AM

There's a pie served around these parts that is a cross between apple crumb pie and cheesecake. TBTG when the place that had it closed, another place started making a similar one!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 08:55 AM

A friend just told me that she has a recipe for an apple pie with green chilies. I can't wait to get it and try it out.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amergin
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 12:55 PM

Yeah, Ebarnacle, haven't you heard of that? It's a boy toy in a can....you gotta keep him cool to keep him fresh though. Otherwise he'll get too spoiled.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 11:02 AM

Let's try that again, Spaw. A can of SWM?

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 08:07 AM

The worlds best pie-Don't ask don't tell

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Ed T
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 07:14 AM

SWM = Single, white male

SCM - Single, condensed male (eats pie alot)

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: maeve
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 06:25 AM

SWM = SCM

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 12:07 AM

SWM?

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 04:39 PM

LOL.....about two months back, Karen opened a can of SWM by accident and put it in the fridge for another time which cam a week later. When she went to retrieve the can it was empty and I said I figured Tristan did it...........didn't work. The damn stuff still tastes good but it now takes me a week to eat a can.......LOL

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 02:29 PM

Sweetened condensed milk- my wife refuses to use it, period!

I remember, when I was a child, swiping a can of the stuff and eating it with a spoon. I couldn't do that now. I also used to gnaw on cones of hard brown sugar that my parents brought back from Mexico. My sugar intake when I was a kid was phenomenal. I think it contributed to my (so far) long healthy life!

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 10:50 AM

LOL @ Froggy......Well thank you for trying and being so tactful!!! It isn't something for everybody as most reasonable people can't stand that much sugar in anything! Rick Fieding tried one once and said "Thanks for the recipe for solidified Sweetened Condensed Milk."

And Q....Glad to have helped (;<))

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 09:55 AM

I'm not the worlds best pastry cook I don't think I am anyway. It's not me who made the soggy bottom by the way I sampled this once in a High Street cafe in the town. It is slimy stodgey when you try to put a spoon through it rather than crisp and it does spoil the whole thing, more like a slimy gloop in the mouth, yuck.

Bakewell tart can be good it has a pastry base, layer of jam and sponge mixture on top with some almond essence added. But alternative flavours can be added to change it a bit and instead of raspberry jam a layer of cherry is nice with custard, cream or a scoop of ice-cream to top it.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: gnu
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 02:42 PM

Dave's Mom... it's a "regular bit".

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Amergin
Date: 01 Dec 10 - 07:55 AM

My gramma is the pie queen....every christmas she makes pecan pies, sour cream and raisin pies, pumpkin, mince meat....and so on....

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: EBarnacle
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 11:59 PM

John, I thought you knew that the Soggy Bottom Pie is indigenous to the same area that gave birth to the Soggy Bottom Boys, of Blessed Memory.

Subject: RE: BS: The worlds best pie
From: Wesley S
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 07:53 PM

"Spaw's Buttermilk Pile"

Now THAT'S a song title for you.....

Just waiting for someone brave enough to write it.