Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 07:12 AM

I haven't seen the programme but I agree Ruby Tuner is the highlight of any JH concert. We've seen him most years recently at outdoor concerts (MUCH too loud indoors)and regret Ruby tends only to come on in a fake "encore" set at the end. His other singers, Louise Marshall and Sam (daughter of Joe) Brown, are excellent. Usually too much of JH singing and little light & shade in his playing (unlike UK's other Boogie Woogie star Ben Waters). Gilson Lavis has been with JH since their duo days and is always celebrated by the billing "featuring". Mark Flanagan (gtr) and Chris Holland (keys) often open the concerts with their own groups but usually underwhelm.

Just my twopennorth.

RtS

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: mikesamwild
Date: 08 Jan 11 - 05:31 AM

The man is a great enthusiast and has a wide love of all sorts of genres , long may he boogy

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 06 Jan 11 - 10:08 AM

I recorded the show, but haven't watched it yet. This of course gives me the huge advantage of whizzing through the celebrity schmoozing and predictions. It'll be interesting to compare and contrast my opinions with those voiced above...

Of course the show has always been pre-recorded, and a few years back there was even a missed edit, causing a (non-musical) sequence to be repeated.

Jools ('There's never been a song written that wouldn't benefit from a bit of boogie-woogie piano')Holland gets up my nose too, but I can forgive him that for the huge range of interesting music he's brought to our screens over the years.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: melodeonboy
Date: 06 Jan 11 - 10:05 AM

No wonder you're called "anoy"!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,anoy
Date: 06 Jan 11 - 05:12 AM

Kylie was great, charming and lovely as ever.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 07:50 AM

Richard I agree with you about Toots, it was great to see him at last. I have seen many of the others like Prince Buster, Desmond Dekker, The Ethiopians, Skatalites etc. along with Rico and have attempted to try to get to see Toots many times without success, in the past the band has cancelled gigs in Bristol many times so it was a treat for me to see him at last. It was a shame about the backing band however not as tight as a Reggae band should be. But if the audience there were half sozzled then perhaps they didn't notice.

I have a sampler CD with a track from Bellowhead which I was already quite impressed with and was keen to hear more from them but the problem there is that as with Toots it is a band for letting your hair down to in a club or hall rather than watching from a chair with a glass in hand.

Kylie was wheeled out again for her annual nasal whine. Alison I was a little bit disappointed with but I gave her the benefit of the doubt thinking that she might have been getting over a cold or flu, it is possible at this time of year. Wanda Jackson, was she from the 50s? It would be interesting to find some material from back when she was younger if any exists. I would imagine she once had a voice similar to Brenda Lee back then but not as successful? Rumer sounded promising but would like to hear a bit more of her in the future.

The show itself is getting pretty samey as the years go by. It's as if they have been recorded back to back sometimes, although this time we were spared Al Murray sat in the audience constantly repeating 'Hootenannay' over and over again two years in a row!

Roger Daltry, no comment. Vampire weekend zzzzzzz........

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Stephen W
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 07:32 AM

Paul Sartin and Sam Sweeney with both gigging with Belshazzar's Feast and Kerfuffle on the night of the recording. Hence the need for deps in Bellowhead.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 07:21 AM

Just caught Secret Sisters on you tube. Good to see youngsters working in the high lonesome idiom. Daughters of Muscle Shoals we salute you.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jan 11 - 06:07 AM

We thought the young lady deputising for Paul Sartin did a rather wonderful job....and added some visual appeal also!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Old Vermin
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:32 PM

You mean it's *not* live! I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Old Vermin
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:29 PM

Noticeable lack of Paul Sartin in Bellowhead. We wondered about 'flu or other seasonal ailment. Looking forward to Belshazzars Feast gig in Guildford on Friday.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: melodeonboy
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 02:17 PM

That's rather unfair and the language is somewhat unsuitable for a music forum!

(But I can't deny that it made me giggle!)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 12:11 PM

ermm.. you omitted

"and 1 c*nt"...?????

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,th
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:57 AM

Current muso joke,

Q. What has got 12 horns, 20 c*cks but no b*ll*cks?

A. The Jools Holland Rhythm and Blues Orchestra.

ITHANGYEW!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:56 AM

She was fabulous, Mike. I didn't see her on 'Hootenanny', but I have it recorded, so I'll take a peek. I'm sorry if Alison's performance wasn't up to scratch - it's a shame because she is a real class act, a Singer (the capital 'S' is deliberate!) who truly lives up to the title.

Leveller, I was laughing as I typed it too! :-)
There are some wazzocks around, aren't there? :-)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: theleveller
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:31 AM

"I sometimes put inverted (note the correct spelling please) commas around the words "smart-arse" too. With or without, a smart-arse is still a smart-arse."


"LOL!"

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: MikeL2
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:17 AM

hi bwm
<<"From: Backwoodsman - PM
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 08:08 AM

Then you obviously didn't have the pleasure of being entertained by her at Sheffield City Hall about a year ago, as I did, Mike.">>

No I didn't get to see Alison at Sheffield; in fact I have seen her for some time. She is a favourite of both my wife and I with her beautifully honed voice and wonderful phrasing. But on Jules Holland we just saw her sing the firdst song and by her standards it was very poor.
We felt the whole programme lacked something this year so we went over to BBC Scotland...and we were pleased that we did.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 11:06 AM

"One of the finest singers I've ever had the privilege to hear 'live'"

I sometimes put inverted (note the correct spelling please) commas around the words "smart-arse" too. With or without, a smart-arse is still a smart-arse.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: theleveller
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 10:31 AM

"inverteted"

"?"

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 10:04 AM

One of the finest singers I've ever had the privilege to hear 'live'

Why do you need to put inverteted commas around the word live?

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Jan 11 - 08:08 AM

"Alison Moyat.....seems to have lost her voice with all her weight"

Then you obviously didn't have the pleasure of being entertained by her at Sheffield City Hall about a year ago, as I did, Mike.

Breathtakingly powerful, astonishingly emotional, staggeringly soulful - her performance was spellbinding. One of the finest singers I've ever had the privilege to hear 'live', and one of only three who have reduced me to tears (the other two being Paul Carrack and the wonderful Nina Simone).

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 07:21 PM

I agree with EnglishFolkfan. New Year is a Scottish festival so should be celebrated with Scottish programs, while England should concentrate on their traditional Christmas celebrations. Next thing we'll be getting Jool's St Patrick's Day Ceili!

PS: I wouldn't object to a BBC4 documentary on New Year traditions in Scotland (Or Old Yule celebrations in the Shetlands)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: EnglishFolkfan
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 07:14 PM

2 reasons why I didn't watch BBC One England for seeing in the New Year: Jools Holland + pre-recorded.

Watched BBC One Scotland live on Red Button, Hogmanay is what the Scots do well. Then BBC Alba Ceilidh na Bliadhn' Uire 2010 (Hogmanay Ceilidh 2010) from iPlayer.

JH's presentation skills have always annoyed me so I watch any show he does from iPlayer or record to fast forward to the acts I want to see. Seems to me BBC One England ie London centric need to make the decision on whether real Hogmanay should be shown from BBC Scotland on BBC One & alternative new year musical fluff be offered elsewhere on Two or Four.

New Year greetings to all on here, may the music you like flow bountiously in 2011 and delight your ears.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Alan Day
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 03:31 PM

Reading all the comments on a programme of mixed music that is designed for most tastes,the majority of it performed well,it is no wonder that the BBC get a confused picture of what everyone requires as far as music programmes are concerned.
Al
I enjoyed the film "Singing in the rain" , but shame about all the rain,dancing, music. sound quality.
All that splashing about,just not on chaps. Bring on the Sunshine !!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 03:18 PM

My mrs immediately got the Rumer CD as soon as the shops reopened for the new year.

She's played it all at least 6 times yesterday & today..

Really is top class modern retro 'easy listening', even I'm not getting sick of it yet..

If you enjoy the best of 1960's female pop voices
and Karen Carpenter & KD lang..

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 02:40 PM

hi

I thought that this was the first time that JH Hootenannay had been recorded. I thoght all the previous ones had gone out live ??

Certainly I felt that this year's was very low par.

Wanda jackson......oh dear !!!!!

Rumer.....very promising

Alison Moyat.....seems to have lost her voice with all her weight

Bellowhead.....not my cup of tea....or champagne either.

There did not appear to be any atmosphere whatso-ever.

So I switched to BBC Scotland. I'll be there from the start next year.

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 10:37 AM

i think perhaps bellowhead may be a bit off the mainstream interest.i,ve not heard them before.good but not my cup of tea.
roger daltry was though;not as fiery as a who song but i thought a good vocal and loved the tonque in cheek ref to "my generation"!.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: puck
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 09:58 AM

My mind has been working overtime. I wondered where the remainder of Bellowhead were. The sound was most uncommonly thin. I've been to several of their concerts and they have all been absolutely 'blinding'!! The highlight of the Hootenanny for me was going to be their performance. The first song went down very poorly, and the second not much better! Jon Boden seemed a little 'miffed' with Jools, disappearing to the back of the stage at the end of both numbers, and not entering into any post performance chat, plus they only had two numbers. Then, at the end of the show none of Bellowhead were included in the grand finale song, though most of the others were!!!!!
It got me to wonder if there had been a double booking, or that part of the band were booked to perform in one their other folk guises; then I thought possibly the BEEB were not prepared to fork out the fee for the full line-up; or that there had been a massive fracture within the band itself. Was there a disagreement over the fact that all the other guests had several spots and Bellowhead just two?Possibly,and most likely, some of the band had flu!
Conspiracy theories aside, I can't see Bellowhead deliberately scuppering their performance at such a high profile event, with the national exposure it offers, over anything as trivial as money or billing issues!!!   Any thoughts?? Care to comment Jon??
P

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: HWinWindies
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 05:28 PM

Cant get it in BVI. BBC America had what seemed like 24 hours of Dr Who, maybe it will be on Ovation in April or May or next year.
Ref him on the piano being outplayed by a band member...
reminds me of the John Lennon and Paul McCartney were asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world, and are supposed to have replied that he was not the best drummer in the Beatles.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Van
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:29 PM

Surely the programme is designed to cater for a wide variety of tastes and give people a bit of pleasure. As such it does well. No single style of music, a bit of what you like, a bit of what I like. It's New Year's Eve we've all had a few - are we really so picky? If so change channels or have a few more drinks.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,glueman
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:11 PM

Ceilidh Minogue might work?

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 12:14 PM

@theleveller
I agree (after watching it on replay) that it was a nice eclectic mix (rather like my ipod playlist).

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 10:27 AM

Not sure if the questions about missing members have been answered - Paul Sartin and Sam Sweeney were touring with other projects when the programme was recorded. Yes, James Delarre was on fiddle. I think the other fiddler was Peter Tickell. Don't know who to oboist was.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,John from Kemsing
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 10:15 AM

I was so disappointed the programme was not on a commercial channel. The "ads" would have been far more entertaining but at least it gave us something to laugh at for the start of the New Year.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 09:41 AM

Wilson's were supposed to be appearing but it couldn't be arranged in time

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: theleveller
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 09:06 AM

What's interesting is that different people enjoyed different acts - so there does appear to have been something for almost everyone. For me, Bellowhead were the high point, Secret Sisters and Wanda the (very) low point and everyone else ranging in between. It's about the only time of year when I watch Jools but, sad person that I am, I do actually look forward to it on New Year's Eve.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Pulseroom
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 08:34 AM

Hmmmm! I enjoyed the whole show, it doesn't take much for me but Cee Lo Green "Forget You" was outstanding. I stayed up while 3am to watch top of the pops from the 80s that followed Jules, now that was the start to 2011 I needed. Happy New Year everyone.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,dave clarke
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 08:11 AM

Well done to C LO Green for taking on a Jackie Wilson song. It is a reflection of how great the totally underestimated JW was, as rarely do you see anyone cover his songs because vocally he was head and shoulders above ANY of the greats. Simply the best liver performer and singer of all time.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 05:45 AM

A few months back I saw Jerry Dammers' Spatial AKA Orchestra on Jools Holland and was suitably depressed by their vapid rendition of - I think it was Where Pathways Meet from Lanquidity. We live in the age of increasingly slick muso blandness, but of late I feel too old to work up much indignation over it (especially on a folk forum where such slickness is too often embraced as musicianship) though I often wonder if people can hear the difference between the real and the spurious - or even if it matters.

Time for a New Year's resolution or two maybe?

S O'P - (reaching once more for his 28-disk set of Sun Ra's 1980-81 residency at the Detroit Jazz Centre to remind him that once upon time such music actually happened on Planet Earth...)

Or even...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4XKHkzDggk&feature=related

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 09:50 PM

Don't watch it anymore as don't have a tv - but - an interesting comment upthread: '... one of the best big bands ever?' All a matter of opinion but: the best big bands surely are in the league of Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Woody Herman etc - not a bunch of admittedly talented musos doing a gig playing watered down r and b, fronted by a remarkably silly little man whose smugness fits so well into the unhip and reactionary BBC. I've seen Holland's band live - pub stuff really and nothing wrong with that - but I've also seen Duke and Basie way back. Different league. On a contemporary note - I saw Marshall Allen fronting the Sun Ra Arkestra some months back at the Cafe Oto in Dalston and was blown away - light years ahead of Little Jools and an amazing night. Darcy James Argue's big band was in town from New York a few weeks ago at the same venue - couldn't make it due to illness but I know their music well. People creating contemporary sounds based on a strong tradition, vibrant and sharp. Carla Bley, plenty more - Jools's band really are not up there with these guys. But that's my opinion...

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 03:40 PM

With respect of another thread we enjoyed Vampire Weekend who we caught flicking channels during Father Ted ad-breaks; the Secret Sisters were pretty & cool and Cee Lo Green sang like an angel. Nice to see Rico - and Kylie, bless 'er, though I have to agree with Richard's OP on Wanda Jackson.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 01:45 PM

B.J., Toots, Wanda...Who?!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: melodeonboy
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 01:35 PM

I watched it on playback, so I was able to fast forward the really grotty bits.

Overall, and given that it's regarded as mainstream programming, I think there was a fair variety of stuff, and the quality overall was reasonable. But I wish he'd leave out the bloody celebrity waffle.

And we did have the rare and delightful sight of someone playing a melodeon on a mainstream music programme! :) Mustn't grumble!

(Nice to see an appearance from B.J. Cole as well!)

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 12:37 PM

Definitely a Gibson guitar - same headstock as on my LP Junior. As to whether it's a 335 I don't know. There have been a lot of variations over the years.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Alan Day
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 11:28 AM

Richard ,it may have been his Brother, he has appeared with him before.
Al

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: tritoneman
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 10:50 AM

I watched Father Ted instead.


Good choice Brakn. I was playing a gig last night but had I not been I would have been doing the same!!

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 10:34 AM

I'm sure that Toots Hibbert, Kylie Minogue and Wanda Jackson will be fascinated to know that the cognoscenti think them English.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 10:13 AM

Rather than watch English copying American pop and rock, I enjoyed Scots performing, mostly, Scottish culture on BBC Scotland and BBC Alba.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 10:04 AM

I've mentioned above those who struck me one way or another. Vampire Weekend were somewhat less than average.

I remember a couple of years back - it might have been a "Later" rather than a "Hootenannay" - Jools played guitar - a 12-bar-ish thing, and he wasn't bad, but that let out of the cage another pianist who had been I think playing second piano in the Jools band - and that guy was monstrous: totally better than Jools - in the brilliant class. He had the bounce in the boogie.

Subject: RE: Jools Holland Hootenannay 2010/11
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 09:55 AM

Vampire Weekends song 'Holiday' starts 'A holiday, a holiday, and the best one of the year' and has certainly been used on an advert recently although I can't remember what for.
I only saw the post midnight bit of the show but danced around the living room to Bellowhead with Geoff and the twins. We enjoyed it!