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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 11 - 01:54 AM As with 'Reggie', I don't do songs that are 'religious' in nature, but also like Little Hawk, I do stuff of truth. I draw a HUGE distinction between 'spiritual' (truth being in there), and 'religious', which is usually a distortion of spiritual truth...nor do I name any 'religious or spiritual figureheads' in my stuff.....matter of fact, most of my most recent stuff is instrumental along the lines of musical scores and/or soundtracks.....but if they don't conjure up deeply personal emotions, along those lines, its back to the studio, in the basement...but, fortunately, so far, I've been blowing people's minds, at the concerts. So, I'm happy..... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: catspaw49 Date: 07 Apr 11 - 02:08 AM Passed by a Church of God today named the Church of God in Deliverance...........I pulled up out front and someone inside was yelling, "Squeal like a pig........" Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Musket Date: 07 Apr 11 - 04:53 AM Interesting notes above about not singing religious songs. Back when I was a teenager, practicing in my Mum's front room. Her friend had called for a cuppa and they could hear me through from the kitchen. I was learning a traditional song, "Our Captain Cried All Hands." My Mum's friend, being deeply religious, told my Mum that I shouldn't put non religious words to hymn tunes. My Mum mentioned this to me, and I told her that "He who would valiant be" was written after the original sea faring song to the same tune. Mum told her friend this, and was told "Once God has taken a tune, it is his for ever more." So, perhaps we shouldn't wonder what is up with God these days, as there are always those to describe his answers eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 07 Apr 11 - 06:17 AM I liked a line from the old BBC serial 'The Borgias' where Rodrigo Borgia (the Po0pe) is asked why he is spending all his time running the Vatican State, rather than attending to spiritual matters and replies that God was perfectly capable of doing that himself, but needed help when it came to temporal affairs. I always felt that the opposite attitude (as typified by Mary Whitehouse) verged on the blasphemous. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Donuel Date: 07 Apr 11 - 10:48 AM I'm just here to spread Joy. Have you seen her? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Donuel Date: 07 Apr 11 - 11:02 AM The revolutionary poet and singer, Bob Dylan performed in China after Chinese authorities excised and censored every song that had anything to do with change, revolution,prison, freedom, or God. What made it to the stage were songs like 'Freight Train' and Viva Los Vegas. 'Endless Highway' was silenced before he finished the song. Oh well ya gotta serve somebody. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Apr 11 - 02:17 PM "censored every song that had anything to do with change, revolution,prison, freedom, or God." Now, THERE you have a truly dangerous government. And a truly dangerous religion too...the Chinese government's religion, I mean. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: John P Date: 07 Apr 11 - 05:28 PM Little Hawk: That is why I am essentially more in sympathy with a religious viewpoint than with a decidely anti-religious viewpoint, because I cannot sympathize with a philosophical viewpoint that asserts (at the heart of itself) that its own life has no essential meaning. That, to me, is a complete denial of whatever makes life noble, beautiful, and worth living. I have an anti-religious viewpoint, or perhaps I should say anti-deist. Yet I still feel that my life has meaning. Your dichotomy doesn't work, and is somewhat insulting. You sound like the folks who say that no one can be moral without a belief in God. And: the Chinese government's religion, I mean The Chinese government doesn't have a religion. Please find different words to use to express your meaning, which I understand quite well (as in please don't bother explaining it yet again). You could say that they put the same care and intensity into their political philosophy as religious people do into religion, but then what's the point of calling it a religion? You could say that their belief in their political system is as strong as a religious person's belief in God, but why not just say that they believe strongly in their system? Is my overriding desire to brush my teeth every day a religion? Is folk music my religion? The word "religion" means either a belief in a god or an organization that administers a belief in a god. Nothing else is religion. As a non-religious person, you're willingness to call other stuff religion is off-putting. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Apr 11 - 06:07 PM I understand you perfectly, John. But I don't particularly feel like wrangling about it. One doesn't have to be a deist to have a spiritual sense about life, or to find the kind of positive purpose and meaning in life that I think people need. I very much doubt that you define the word "God" the same way I do anyway, so I think we'd be wasting our time beating this particular dead horse around the block, don't you? Yeah, I think there's a vast amount of other stuff (entirely apart from belief in a deity) that people practice in just the same blind and fanatical and pigheaded way that so many do their organized religions, and to much the same deleterious and self-deluding effect, and if I want to call it a "religion" when they do that, there's nothing you can do about it, is there? I don't see any point in you being "insulted" by what I say, but I guess that's up to you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 07 Apr 11 - 10:42 PM BRAVO, Little Hawk!!! Whether people believe in a 'religion' or not, does NOT preclude the FACT that there is 'something' bigger going on, in this universe, than a bunch of people's stupid opinions on what to call it!!...and order it out, to accomplish some other stupid notion of 'righteousness'!!... However, being in step, with not only the 'universe' but having a conscious sense of ONENESS about it all, sure makes life fuller, and slicker access to tapping into it!! Ya' think it was supposed to be that way??? "You gotta serve somebody"....Dylan GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Donuel Date: 07 Apr 11 - 10:57 PM Some people subjectify God as the Universe and all its components. The interesting fact is that when you start looking at the very small, "God's Creation" begins to pixilate into particals, some of which do not break down into anything smaller. IF you look at the incredibly big you see a web like network of filiments composed of galaxies that look very much the same as living tissue. I'm not saying that the Milkey way is a polyp on a rectum by a hemmroid in the bowels of God...perhaps we are merely an inflamation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Apr 11 - 11:05 PM We are whatever we truly decide to be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 07 Apr 11 - 11:09 PM ...and some people have great difficulty deciding. Therefore they have great difficulty accomplishing much of anything. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Apr 11 - 12:50 AM Little Hawk: "...and some people have great difficulty deciding. Therefore they have great difficulty accomplishing much of anything." ....except frustrating those of a kind heart, extending a friendly hand to them! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 08 Apr 11 - 04:25 AM "The word "religion" means either a belief in a god or an organization that administers a belief in a god. Nothing else is religion." Presumably you mean that Hiduism (many gods) and Buddhism (no gods) aren't religions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Stu Date: 08 Apr 11 - 07:09 AM Some forms of Buddhism aren't a religion in reality, they are a way of life that doesn't need gods. Zen is totally without deities of any kind, and Tibetan Buddhism can be practiced without any supernatural beings being involved (although there are other spiritual realms, but you could ignore these even if you wished). What both these paths have in common is an encouragement to question everything, even a the most fundamental level. Nothing is taboo and can accommodate all aspects of science without problem or any compromise of personal values. In fact, if you keep up with developments in physics (string theory) and psychology (visualisation exercises, the nature of human suffering) the there are correlations regard views of the nature of reality that are intriguing and in the study of the workings of the human mind. These paths eschew the myopic dogma of western/arab theist religions and are all the better for it. Not for them the ignorance of continued adherence to ancient texts written by unknown authors who in all probability were expressing their own views rather than transcribing the word of God; all this filtered through long-lost political, social and philosophical viewpoints that don't translate to the modern world and encourage the arrogant, ignorant and idiotic viewpoint of "let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." One of Buddhism's central tenets is respect for all living things, and the appallingly misguided little passage above is the exact opposite of that, a licence to destroy that which we don't understand. Buddhists strive to live their lives with compassion for all living beings, the ability to allow others to exist as they wish, and their main motivation is selfless love. Unlike the theist religions, which bang on about love but are actually intolerant and (in reality, contrary to what their main scriptures say) anthropocentric in their view of the world. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Stu Date: 08 Apr 11 - 09:12 AM Mind you, I think some Gnostics got close . . . at play in the fields of the Lord. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Apr 11 - 09:30 AM ALL religions are man's way of reaching God.......ever wonder what God's way of reaching man are?? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: John P Date: 08 Apr 11 - 09:56 AM Dave MacKenzie , I think you know what I was talking about. Stop quibbling, it makes you small. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Musket Date: 08 Apr 11 - 11:16 AM The flying spaghetti monster considers his noodly self to be a deity rather than a God. Pastafarians consider themselves however to be members of a religion. He is a monotheist wriggly critter, but to those with meatballs keeping their ears apart, he represents a religion. I suppose that by signing up on a webpage, you are a member of that religion by informed consent. A lot more consent than having your head washed as a baby? Just a thought. I haven't but a mate of mine who posts on these pages has, the silly sod. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 08 Apr 11 - 11:34 AM John P. I think I know what you're talking about, and I don't think you know what I'm talking about. As I've said elsewhere, is religion compatable with belief in God? Ask Steve Shaw about his experiences as a Catholic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Apr 11 - 12:01 PM Ian, may I make a suggestion??? Get up from the computer and eat something...you sound hungry! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Musket Date: 08 Apr 11 - 01:08 PM Too hot for spaghetti. In terms of the question, "Is religion compatible with belief in God?" I might try to make a more serious contribution. I am not religious, get rather annoyed when friends and family tell me I am a Christian as opposed to a practicing one, (debated the census, no matter,) and see myself as free from superstition and irrational thoughts. Sounds pompous? Yeah, I suppose it does, but no more than those who convince us of a series of events / attitudes / thoughts of imaginary deities. Whilst I am not religious, my academic past was in an area of physics so am conversant with Newtonian laws through to probability at the quantum level. So I see where Einstein was coming from when asked if he was an atheist. No, he said. For atheism must by definition reduce to chaos. the laws of physics work in every case, everywhere we look. Chaos cannot create such a state. Makes you wonder. Even if atrophy does preclude intelligent design after all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Amos Date: 08 Apr 11 - 01:37 PM LEt's not get crack-potted about the definition, which comes from the Latin religiare or possibly religiens: "relegare "go through again, read again," from re- "again" + legere "read" (see lecture). However, popular etymology among the later ancients (and many modern writers) connects it with religare "to bind fast" (see rely), via notion of "place an obligation on," or "bond between humans and gods." Another possible origin is religiens "careful," opposite of negligens. Meaning "particular system of faith" is recorded from c.1300." "•A religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion In modern usage, there are two distinct definitions, one more general (a set of beliefs) and one theistic. To deny the validity of one or the other definitions is just sophomoric and disingenuous. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Apr 11 - 01:43 PM "Is religion compatible with belief in God?" Compatible???? Seems like an odd choice of words in that sentence. Some religions require belief in God, a god, or various gods. Other's don't. Some are based on worshipping the powers of Nature. Some are philosophical and ethical treatises, and do not advance the idea of any kind of deity at all, but of a coherent and rational order of things. Some political religions are officially absolutely against all "religion", and yet they go through all the same outward motions and psychological exercises, such as: having holy books that all members must read and live by, having sacred rituals that all members must participate in, demanding exclusive loyalty to the order, wearing symbols and clothing that reflect the order, following rigid rules set out by the order, idolizing the prophets and founders of the order and setting up graven images of them for the faithful to bow down to, aggressively prosyletizing to convert the rest of humanity and making war on those who resist, etc... And yet they claim to be against religion! Ha! I find this tragically funny...or maybe just tragic, period. They are the very thing they despise and wish to stamp out, they just don't know it. They succeed in matching and even outdoing some of the most fanatical religions in recorded history. Who comes to mind? Well, the Soviets, the Maoists, and Pol Pot, to mention 3 examples. The Nazis were another example of a fanatical political religion, although they did not claim to be against traditional Christian religion...in fact they made much use of it in encouraging their troops and their citizenry...but it was quite clear that their real religion was to worship the Nazi Party, its philosophy, its symbols, and its founders. Their tolerance of the conventional forms of Christianity that they willingly accepted and used was a much secondary matter, just a good practical way of helping to motivate the general rank and file in the German population. After all, they were fighting against "Godless Communism", so it was important to emphasize to Germans that the Nazi regime stood for godliness. ;-) (so they pretended...and most of them probably believed it too) Every German soldier in the regular forces had a belt buckle on which was inscribed the words: "God Is With Us" (in German). And I'm sure most of them believed "He" was. Why wouldn't they? Only the rank and file of soldiers in an officially atheist force like that of the Soviets or Mao would hesitate to assume that God was on their side. ;-) In their case, their peculiar form of faith would cause them to dismiss the concept of "God" utterly and replace it with a quite different set of mental bulwarks...equally rigid, but different labels to believe in. Seems to me that they all do much the same thing, but they put a different set of outer clothing on it, that's all. They give it different names. They all give themselves over to some remote higher authority, take a huge leap of faith in putting their trust in that higher authority, obey its dictates, follow its orders, and sacrifice themselves upon its bloodstained altar. I regard it as equally sad in every case, whether or not they call it "God", "the Party", "the Fuhrer", "the King", "The Empire", "the church", or "the Fatherland" that they are killing and dying for. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 08 Apr 11 - 02:32 PM well put,little hawk. jack-methinks you misread genesis.dominion does not have to be selfish or cruel.in fact other texts in the penteteuch exhort kindness to animals,a feature i suspect was ahead of it,s time. best wishes. pete. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Donuel Date: 08 Apr 11 - 04:05 PM Entropy vs evolutionary growth and development can be viewed as stages of the same process and not antitheticals. "We are what we want to be" Well sort of but limitations do exist. It can be frightening for the scientific mind to venture outside a standard model and view the unuverse from a point of view that differs markedly from a peer accepted reality. I celebrate those with the courage to do so. We stand upon the shoulders of the giants who chose to take that frightening step. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Apr 11 - 04:09 PM Hear! Hear! The thing I most fear is the suffocating tyrrany of the conventional mind (whether in science, government, society, and/or religion). |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Donuel Date: 08 Apr 11 - 09:01 PM Years ago I thought Little Hawk stood for a conservative closed minded conventional sheeple of a reactionary right wing fascist thug with diminutive stature. Hey I was wrong. But the only way I learned how wrong, was by reading your posts in entirety. 6 years later, I finished whew. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Apr 11 - 09:04 PM Little Hawk: "The thing I most fear is the suffocating tyrrany of the conventional mind (whether in science, government, society, and/or religion)." OR, all of them together, being controlled by a regime, propaganda or social pressure! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 08 Apr 11 - 10:12 PM Damn right, GfS! Donuel, I shudder to think how much time you have lost if you actually sat down and read ALL my posts! Time that could have been used to far better purpose. Ouch! ;-) "Little Hawk" is a name that stems from Native American traditions and has nothing to do with present day political viewpoints. Crazy Horse had a younger brother named Little Hawk, for instance, and it was a pretty common name back then. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: catspaw49 Date: 08 Apr 11 - 11:17 PM WELL FINALLY!!! This fuckin' thread has been tied up in phlegm bag of self interest for so long I figured it was hopeless. But now we have come around to something real and important and a favorite Mudcat topic......... CRAZY HORSEAnd of course The Infamous Crazy Horse Webcam with the thrill of live action mountain carving.Geeziz......Gives me a boner every time I think of it!!!! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Apr 11 - 01:28 AM Matter of fact, Spaw, I was checking out the old Crazy Horse monument camera earlier today...or yesterday...well, back prior to midnight, that is. It was tremendously exciting, as always. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Apr 11 - 03:01 PM I guess it's quite a relief that there's something out there that can still give you a boner, eh, Spaw? ;-) Thank God for the Crazy Horse webcam! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: catspaw49 Date: 09 Apr 11 - 04:55 PM That and a Cheeseburger as you can see by reading the Cuba thread. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Apr 11 - 09:40 PM For a minute I thought the Crazy Horse House was next to the Mustang Ranch.....then I figured it out! Then I thought of: " BS: What's Up With God These Days???"....Then I remembered these lyrics, (Last lines from last verse)....: "And if I love my self enough, Loving you won't be so rough, 'Cause I'll have so much Love to give the earth." ...and I figured, that if God was up to anything these days, He might just be getting a kick out out His people, doing just exactly that! Snap Now, and avoid the rush! It's been both an honor, and a pleasure!!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Apr 11 - 09:44 PM Addendum (more of the verse: But befor I love another man, I've got to Love myself, And appreciate what little bit I'm worth, And if I love my self enough, Loving you won't be so rough, 'Cause I'll have so much Love to give the earth." (Better context.) Wink, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Apr 11 - 01:50 AM I don't recall if you can get cheeseburgers in Cuba, Spaw, but I guess probably so. Anyway, there are plenty of little food stands there making hot food, and the stuff's all home-cooked fresh right on the spot instead of pre-made and microwaved. Tastes great! It looked a lot more like traditional small-scale family-run capitalism to me than what I see happening around us in North America. There are no corporate chain stores in Cuba, no McDonalds, Burger King or anything like that. (I'm not talking about the big tourist resorts. I'm talking about the regular places where the ordinary Cubans go in the cities and towns.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Apr 11 - 11:28 AM There is nothing definitive so far on the Cuba thread that gives me a rating on any cheeseburgers which they might produce. My contention is simply that you are not providing proof of paradise without the ability to get a "Cheeseburger in Paradise." Sorrowfully, until Jack the Sailor showed up, I seemed to be the only Jimmy Buffett fan on the thread.................. Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,999 Date: 10 Apr 11 - 11:36 AM I found the following on the www. "Huge burgers are great! Four of us ate cheeseburgers, fries and tip and it was under $20. I stop by every time I go through Cuba." I have have no idea what tip is, but yer not being force to eat it. (Spaw, let that one go!) That should settle your qualms. (And let that one go, too!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Apr 11 - 02:51 PM But, Spaw, I was not the one who asserted that Cuba is a "paradise". I merely said that the conditions for ordinary people are considerably better in Cuba than they are in most other Latin American countries such as Mexico or Trinidad. "Better than" does not = "paradise", does it? It is Ron Davies who has resorted to the extraordinary exaggeration and hyperbole of labelling Cuba as a "paradise" (or pretending that I labelled it as a "paradise", which I most certainly did not), therefore it's up to him to prove the concept, not I. Cheeseburgers notwithstanding. ;-) I am ignoring his silly thread, because it's just another exercise in futility, and going there would be like looking for good trout fishing spots in the Mojave Desert. Since the Cubans understand the concept of ground beef, buns, cheese, and necessary condiments though, I am quite sure you can get a decent cheeseburger in Cuba if you just ask for one. And it will be home cooked as you watch. My guess is, you would love the place. Too bad your stupid f-ing government doesn't allow you to go there, isn't it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,999 Date: 10 Apr 11 - 06:12 PM Fishing in the Mojave Desert Hesperia Lake Park 7500 Arrowhead Lake Rd Hesperia 760-244-5951 7am-5pm Catfish (use chicken liver, mackerel, or shrimp, with a marshmallow) Jess Ranch Lakes 11495 Apple Valley Rd Apple Valley 760-240-1107 www.jessranchlakesnews.com Rainbow trout (use Power Bait or nightcrawlers), catfish, bluegill, and bass. No license required Over age 12, $17/5 fish; children $7/2 fish; $3 non-fisher ( 13 years or older) Pay $3.50 per Trout Angling Pond - Limit Fishing on 2 Lakes - Bass Lake for Float Tubers First fish certificates No skunk policy Fri, Sat, & Sun, 7am-4pm - Trout stocked year round every Friday from their hatchery. Mojave Narrows Regional Park Victorville 760-245-2226 Catfish, trout, bluegill, croppie Hours 7:30am-5pm $3 fishing license for anyone 16 & older ($10.25); no rental equipment. Fish planted every other week. Silverwood Lake Marina Hwy 138 Summit Valley 760-389-2299 |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Apr 11 - 06:16 PM How come nobody is swimming TO Cuba FROM Florida? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,999 Date: 10 Apr 11 - 06:20 PM Sorry, Little Hawk. It was too good to miss. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Apr 11 - 06:48 PM How come nobody is swimming TO Cuba FROM Florida? Because there are some fantastic cheeseburgers in Florida! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Apr 11 - 07:56 PM GfS - For the exact same reason that no one is illegally emigrating from the USA and Canada south to Mexico and the rest of Latin America by swimming south across the Rio Grande under cover of darkness. They're materially and financially poorer than we are, so they attempt to emigrate illegally. Illegal immigrants always flow from a poorer place to a richer one. Poor people swim and take little leaky boats. Rich people (meaning us) drive cars, get on planes, and go on paid vacation packages to the places that the poor people swim from. My point was not that Cubans are better off than WE are. It was that they're far better off than most other Latin Americans are, and if any Latin American country was a short boat ride from Florida, they'd be trying to swim to Florida!!!!!!!!!! NOT BECAUSE OF FUCKING SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING POOR!!!!!!!!!!!!! Poorer than we are...materially speaking. They're not poorer in spirit, though. I've been there, and they make the average North Americans look like a bunch of overfed, bored, lazy, unhealthy lost souls, so maybe we're not really as "rich" as we think we are. 999 - Right. ;-) I evidently picked the wrong desert. Should have said "the Sahara". |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: GUEST,999 -- from the www Date: 10 Apr 11 - 08:05 PM Can you go fishing in a desert? What! In the driest place in the world? But the answer is yes! In places like the Sahara Desert in Africa, people can fish in the many underground streams which lie on top of a layer of clay beneath the sand. The water feeding these streams comes from nearby mountains where rain does fall. This mountain water sifts through rocks down into the desert valleys. Even though some rain does fall on the hot dry desert, the heat causes it to evaporate before it hits the ground. So, all a hardy and determined fisherman has to do is dig down through the sand, have some patience, and he may very well land himself some fine freshwater fish. These same underground streams create oases in the desert and supply water to the millions of date palm trees that grow there! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: catspaw49 Date: 10 Apr 11 - 08:41 PM Well Bruce, that doesn't get you too far on the cheeseburger front but you might be able to get one helluva' decent Fish Tail Sandwich! I dunno' if Fish Tail has any rating on the Paradise Meter. Maybe Buffett could write a new verse or something............... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Apr 11 - 08:45 PM Don't forget to order a large fries and a milkshake with that cheeseburger. And some cheesies. And potato chips. And a beer. Build a strong and healthy body. Soon you will look just like Hermann Goering. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's Up With God These Days??? From: Stringsinger Date: 11 Apr 11 - 01:16 PM The reason that people are not going to Cuba is that there is a U.S. government ban on going there. That would explain part of the one-way traffic. Cuba is not a paradise and neither is the U.S. for many people. |
