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Subject: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:04 PM

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 (UPI) -- A federal ban on importing and transporting Burmese pythons across state lines would threaten the economy, some U.S. House Republicans say.

The Interior Department proposed a rule banning the python and eight other snake species because they are potentially dangerous and a threat to the ecosystem of the Florida Everglades. Scientists have warmed that the snakes, of which there are an estimated 100,000 in the Everglades, could spread as far as coastal Delaware, or even Oregon.

Some Republican members of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee said the ban could "devastate a small but thriving sector of the economy," Politico reported Thursday.

Snake breeder and herpetologist David Barker testified Wednesday at a committee hearing that the law would hurt his livelihood.

"It threatens as many as a million law-abiding American citizens and their families with the penalty of a felony conviction for pursuing their livelihoods, for pursuing their hobby, or for simply moving with their pet to a new state," Barker said.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:07 PM

Then there's this related (sort of) story:

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla., Sept. 15 (UPI) -- A man who was caught with snakes and tortoises in his pants while preparing to board a plane from Florida to Brazil was fined $400.

The U.S. Attorney's Office said Simon Turola Borges, 30, pleaded guilty Wednesday to federal smuggling charges, WTVJ-TV, Miami, reported Thursday.

The Transportation Security Administration said agents at Hollywood-Fort Lauderdale International Airport searched Borges Aug. 25, when he was preparing to board a plane to Brazil, and discovered he was concealing three baby ball pythons, three carpet pythons, one children's python, and three baby tortoises wrapped in nylons and concealed in his pants.

A federal judge ruled the $400 fine will be donated to the Miami Science Museum.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:11 PM

The world has gone nuts.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: gnu
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:16 PM

9.... hahahahaaa!

A HUGE one was just recovered alongside the river here in Moncton. I doubt it got here on it's own.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:20 PM

Yes, we are insane...

No other explanation...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:21 PM

Gnu, this is no laughing matter. If this had happened in England, it would have put Monty out of business completely.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:22 PM

As near as I can tell, the Republicans are claiming that banning the importing of snakes & such like is just 'restraint of honest trade'....leading some some undefined 'slippery slope'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:29 PM

I think it's more likely to constrict the US economy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:32 PM

They banned them because all the snakes in our government couldn't take the competition!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Don Firth
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:37 PM

Well, I figure that if the Repubs manage to get a law passed that leaves pythons free and unrestricted, the pythons might just give them a grateful hug.....

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:51 PM

First it's the Everglades, then Seattle, then Alaska. Nip it in the bud, that's what I say.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:55 PM

No one expected the Spanish inquisition...


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 09:56 PM

The python's name is Lucky. If you ask me, it should be the kid's name.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 10:27 PM

14-foot python found in Ohio back yard
Published: Aug. 18, 2011 at 1:12 PM

SEDAMSVILLE, Ohio, Aug. 18 (UPI) -- An Ohio man said his family was shocked when his sister stumbled upon a 14-foot python while they were working in the backyard.

Nate Allbright of Sedamsville said his sister discovered the snake under a pile of trash in the yard Wednesday and he worked with his father to catch the reptile with an improvised snare, WLWT-TV, Cincinnati, reported Thursday.

Allbright said he and his father put the snake into a trash can while waiting for it to be retrieved by a wildlife officer.

"Initially, (the officer) thought we had a black snake and we panicked and thought it was a python, but we opened the can, and he saw it was indeed a python," Allbright said.

Arrowhead Reptile Rescue, which took custody of the snake from the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, said the non-venomous tiger reticulated python weighs 130 pounds and measures 14 feet.

The rescue group said the python may have been a former pet.


Sure glad I moved away from the Cincinnati area -- back in June they found a six-footer at a KFC.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 10:54 PM

There's a 400-pounder in Florida, and all joking aside, the things could become a nuisance. There's been a two-year old killed already, and if something that weighs 400 pounds wants to eat Fido, there ain't too much anyone other than the Governor of California could do about it.

The problem isn't a new one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Sep 11 - 11:19 PM

I don't think Gov Brown is gonna kick any python ass. With pythons, that whole ass-kicking metaphor is shot to hell anyway. With a snake, all you got is tail. (Now I've probably ruined THAT metaphor too.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 04:14 AM

Are there really a million snake owner/breeders over there? Snakes in England tend to be quite discreet and slither away, rather than put in guest appearances at fast food joints.

Do you breed them to eat, or something like that? In KFC....they keep quiet about that meal deal.

Snake burger and fries, snake pieces, a snake shake, Big Snake Snack.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 10:05 AM

People keep them as pets, for some reason. They're not really very exciting pets because mostly they just lay around (like some humans I know). Then, when the owners get tired of just watching the thing lay around (or realize that it could swallow the baby, or they move) they turn it loose in the wild.

I don't think these are the sort of people I'd like to drink with. They probably also think farmers will take care of the dogs they abandon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 10:31 AM

No problem -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4t6zNZ-b0A


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 07:24 PM

""Do you breed them to eat, or something like that? In KFC....they keep quiet about that meal deal.

Snake burger and fries, snake pieces, a snake shake, Big Snake Snack.....
""

Have you never heard of Snake and Pygmy Pie Al?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 09:14 PM

this... and lots more.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 09:46 PM

Python can be offered raw as a starter....?


Tell me about that. Am i missing out?


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 09:53 PM

Well, first of all I assume it's dead....


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 09:59 PM

Glad to see Congress is saying focused on the important things


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 04:12 AM

I think they need to focus more on pythons. A million python owners. 300thousand in the wild in one place alone. turning up in rivers and KFC's. ....

I'd declare a state of emergency.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 10:26 AM

We need more KPCs -- Kentucky fried python could be the next big thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: MartinRyan
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 10:30 AM

Maybe I need new glasses.... For a moment, I thought "Python Ban" was Pangur Bán's brother. ;>)>

Regards


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: David C. Carter
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 11:55 AM

Was this guy a snake oil salesman?

Jest arsekin'


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 01:18 PM

I can't believe the entire exotic pet thing hasn't been banned except the re-tards in congress are making huge profits from what is a multi-billiion dollar a year industry.

But how brain-dead do you have to be to buy a python or a baby alligator and NOT realize that when this thing gets five feet long, you can't keep it anymore so you let it go in a swamp or field? STOP buying exotic pets, you stupid assholes! Buy a fucking brain instead!

Rant off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: gnu
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 01:30 PM

Agreed josepp. Stiffer penalties should be imposed on these idiots.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Gurney
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 04:03 PM

Love it, Jeri.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 05:05 PM

Well, there's a fast food business in the making.

Hell, the advertising would take care of it self. Deep fried (like fish in batter), barbequed, shushied, steamed. KFP: new franchises available.

tfp_eattoyourheartscontent@foodmail.com


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 05:23 PM

Well, folks say snake tastes like chicken. Of course, they say the same thing about beef, roof tar, and oak flooring. That's why I don't go to dinner with people who say that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Melissa
Date: 17 Sep 11 - 05:30 PM

I don't know about python, but rattlesnake does have sort of a chickeny (white meat) texture and about the same amount of flavor.
I'd go to KFP and try a small serving of Popcorn Python..might be delicious.

The folks who say oak flooring tastes like chicken are crazy. Oak flooring tastes like paddlefish!


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 04:26 AM

Melissa, I've never eaten paddlefish, but my friend Joe Nutzazza Bean did and he says they taste like eggplant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Melissa
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 04:45 AM

The texture revolted me..like the spongy/woody stuff in the middle of a horseweed if that stuff was meaty. Bleh, once was enough for me to learn that lesson!

I haven't tasted oak flooring (the comparison was a guess) but I'd have a hard time choosing between that and paddlefish. Fresh cut oak sure doesn't smell much like anything I want to eat..

Now I'm going to be keeping an eye open for a bite of eggplant so I can see if I agree with your friend.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 05:47 AM

I don't know, i did a gig one time and a guy had a snake round his neck, like a scarf - they seemed to get on all right.

Perhaps some of you know him - he's a medieval battle re-enactor and his speciality was firing the cannon. Lives somewhere in south east.

Nice guy. Nice snake.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Sep 11 - 12:59 PM

Works fine until you try to tie the snake like a necktie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Sep 11 - 12:10 PM

Necktie like THIS?

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Sep 11 - 09:37 PM

More like this.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Sep 11 - 10:15 PM

Rap - I think I remember seeing her (the snake) perform once.

For those interested in the serious problems of invasive species, current Florida news is:

Giant snails have Florida on search-and-destroy mission

Non-native species eats 500 types of plants — and can cause meningitis in humans

Florida is used to strange creatures, but the discovery of a non-native animal — a giant snail from East Africa — has got local officials really worried.

A search-and-destroy advisory that went out included this bit of history: the last time the giant snails were found in Florida (back in 1966) they had multiplied from three to 18,000 in seven years and cost $1 million to eradicate.

The new population of giant African land snails was found in Miami-Dade County, and several dozen technicians were quickly dispatched to search them out.

About 1,000 were found Thursday within a one-square-mile radius, the Miami Herald reported. Several hundred were found in one backyard in Coral Gables. How they got there was not immediately known.

The snails were sent to freezers to be frozen to death.

Why worry? Besides their intimidating size — up to 8 inches long and 4 inches in diameter — "they consume at least 500 different types of plants, can cause structural damage to plaster and stucco, and can carry a parasitic nematode that can lead to meningitis in humans," the Florida Department of Agriculture said in a statement Thursday.

They also breed like crazy. "Each snail can live as long as nine years and contains both female and male reproductive organs," the department stated. "After a single mating session, each snail can produce 100 to 400 eggs. In a typical year, every mated adult lays about 1,200 eggs."

The 1966 incident was tied to a boy who brought three into Miami as pets. His grandmother later released them into her garden, starting a plague that took 10 years to eradicate.

In the new outbreak, officials are looking into a possible connection to a criminal investigation, the Miami Herald reported. A man is accused of smuggling in the snails for a religious practice in which followers would drink the snails' juices for a healing ritual. Several people became violently ill.

The man allegedly was helped by a woman said to have hid the snails under her dresses on flights to Miami.

It is illegal to import the snails into the United States. Smugglers can face up to a $1,000 fine per charge.

In 2004, federal officials seized several giant African land snails that had been used in Wisconsin schoolrooms.

A University of Florida study published Thursday found that Florida has more non-native amphibians and reptiles than anywhere else in the world, and that the pet trade is the main cause.

The most notorious of Florida's invasives is the Burmese python. The state last year banned owning Burmese pythons and other large snakes after one killed a two-year-old child in her home.

For more general information:

100 Worst Invasive Species


Wiki Lists of Invasive Species


Invasive Species in North America

Anyone for a kudzu salad?

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Sep 11 - 10:48 PM

All joking aside, invasive species ARE a problem and not just in Florida. The Great Lakes are fighting zebra mussels, Asian carp, and many others. To pick just one thing -- dandelions are NOT native to North America. They were brought here by Europeans because they were a food source "back home" and, of course, they reproduced. With no natural enemies....

Or the English sparrow. Or starlings. Or European carp. Or, here in Idaho, rainbow trout -- an introduced species which now threatens the native cutthroat trout.

If you bring a boat into Idaho (and many other states) you must demonstrate that it has been cleaned of non-native species.

I can't use certain minnows as live bait for fishing; they have to be bought vacuum-packed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 05:55 AM

Blame Shakespeare for the birds.

Early fans of the bard deliberately attempted to bring every bird mentioned in any of his works to the "new world" in the idiotic attempt to make the new just like the old one that they thought they had good reason to leave.

'twas ever thus.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 10:28 AM

I blame Shakespeare for everything. Geez, I'd like to trammel up the consequence and catch in its surcease success.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 02:19 PM

Never quote the Scottish Python....it hides under kilts....!


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 02:56 PM

It's been kilt but it ain't dead, huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: gnu
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 03:39 PM

Al... I've heard the Scottish Python is a particularly nasty bedsnake and must be dealt with by only well qualified handlers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: gnu
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 03:43 PM

Of course, down south, they got them thar pisin snakes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 08:01 PM

That's great I've never seen that before.

The pizen sarpint used to be in those old folk song books. Burl Ives and Oak publications and all that.   Wasn't it called Springfield Mountain. I know Woody recorded it and I used to do it with my first group..... I was a Woody Guthrie Guthrie fanatic!

Too many years ago to count....!


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 08:54 PM

I went and threw away a live rattlesnake last year. The details are on MOAB back about last August.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Sep 11 - 11:35 PM

Zebra mussels are a big problem in almost the entire US, with clogging of cooling systems at power plants an expensive consequence. Destruction of native fishing is a less visible consequence.

Kudzu is widespread in the SE US, and chokes orchards and pulls down power lines (and houses).

Russian Thistle (brought in a couple of hundred years ago) probably reduces usable grazing land by 20 or 30 per cent in parts of several states. (It was probably a contaminant in the "Russian wheat" brought in by early settlers. We'll keep the wheat, probably.)

The snails are eating houses and "pet pythons" are killing kids in Florida. The tropical snakes are causing really significant damage to bird and small native animal populations.

The big carp that are threatening a multi-billion dollar fishing industry in the Great Lakes may force Chicago to remove their canal that lets shipping from the lakes get to the Mississipi seaports, thereby shutting off a multi-billion dollar shipping industry.

And those #@$!% Shakespeare birds keep crapping poison ivy berries from the power lines in my back yard. (Free samples of the lovely ivy for anyone who wants to come and rip out a bunch.)

Armadillos used to be an insignificant problem when they came from Mexico without documentation, because they mostly stayed in Texas where the rest of us didn't care all that much; but they've now become fairly common in Nebraska and may have a foothold in S Dakota (~1200 miles from the border). They should all be deported if they don't immediately get a green card like all the new Brits do! I'd even suggest that the Armadillos should be required to find something useful to do to get their green cards, but the current more lenient standards could be applied to the ...

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 09:20 AM

John, armadillos are very useful in leprosy (Hansen's disease) research. And they make so-so speed bumps.

Now the wild pigs (Sus scrofa) that were introduced back in the 1500s from Europe are getting to be a real problem as well. Mean, ugly, nasty critters that are danged hard to kill. They tear up farms and crops as well as various forested areas as they root for food. Believe it or not, Cabela's sporting goods store will sell you a sword to hunt them with -- me, I'd prefer not to get that close to them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 09:55 AM

Armadillos are very useful as a food source for vultures.

And, as to the thread's original topic, there's no economic justification for the trade in large constrictors. If people want snakes as pets, there are numerous native snakes which make better, safer pets. If they'd cultivate the market for king snakes and rat snakes, breeders and pet stores could make just as much money as they do from pythons. And if the owner gets tired of a corn snake and turns it loose in the wild, it's certainly not going to harm the environment. It's probably still not good for the snake since a released captive animal won't be as adept at finding prey as its wild cousin and won't have a healthy fear of snake hating humans, but the worst possible result is a dead snake. More vulture food!


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 02:12 PM

Coral snakes would make pretty pets for people like that, Bee-Dub.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 08:42 PM

Its sad the way the world is turning. Someone finds a python in their bag of fries in MacDonalds, and theres talk of the economy failing.

I can remember when Errol Flynn had a python in his pants and we all loved him for it. In those days a man was proud of his python. They didn't flash their pythons about and serve them in a bag of chips - but we all knew where to lay our hands on one at least.

As you say, it wasn't a species you'd want to introduce - not til the second date at least.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 09:14 PM

Now that Congress is balking at appropriating funds for disaster relief, maybe thay're out to make this country a better habitat for reptiles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 09:25 PM

A few decades ago, an acquaintance of mine had a pet python—or boa constrictor, I'm not sure which, but they both tend to be pretty cuddly (!). Anyway, a small coffee-klatch used to gather most mid or late evenings in the University District Pizza Haven and talk of cabbages and kings, et al.

Herb came in one evening and he was wearing his exotic pet around his waist. It was a coolish evening, so he was wearing a jacket, zipped about halfway up. As he sat there at the table, the snake poked its head out of the jacket and looked around. Looked weird as hell, not to mention just a bit phallic (but with eyes?). The critter seemed to be following the conversation, but it apparently didn't have much to say.

One of the waitresses made periodic rounds of the tables to refill people's coffee cups, and she headed for our table. As she topped off our cups, I'm thinking, "Oh, God! What if she sees the snake!" When she refilled Herb's cup, she looked right at the damned snake, and I was sure there was going to be a window-shattering scream and coffee all over the ceiling.

But no. She looked right at it, her eyes went sort of blank, and she just moved on to the next table. She couldn't have missed it, but I think her brain just wouldn't register it.

Herb eventually had to get rid of it. He said it was getting two big and just a bit dangerous. It liked to play "necktie," and sometimes it got a little too enthusiastic about the game.

He donated it to the Woodland Park Zoo.

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Green Lake, a lovely lake in the north part of Seattle, is a mecca for bikers, joggers, roller skaters, and strollers on a sunny day, and is a real asset to the city. Three and a half miles around, it makes for a good walk or run. And there are a couple of official swimming beaches there, and you can rent rowboats, small sailboats, or water bikes, which I used to do a lot, and get some exercise rowing around the lake. Or on a windy day, sailboards.

Anyway, about ten or so years ago, people started hysterically calling the police and reporting that there were alligators in the lake. There were too many people calling for the authorities to discount that people were definitely seeing something. A careful tour of the lakeshore revealed that there were two cayman inhabiting the reeds at the south end of the lake. Animal control manage to take them into custody, and I think they, too, wound up in the Woodland Park Zoo. They were fairly young, about three-and-a-half or four feet long. They can get up to about six feet, with one species up to fifteen feet.

The assumption was that someone had them as pets and when they got big enough to take out the neighbors' children and pets, the owner released them in the lake. One wonders what they were surviving on. Lots of Canada geese hang out around the lake. And an occasional jogger maybe? I mean, when you keep finding pairs of empty Reeboks sitting there on the jogging path by the reeds, what is one to think?

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 10:16 PM

I can't get too excited over the Canada geese, Don. And there ARE a lot of joggers out there, but I don't think that herd needs culling yet. Maybe in a few years....


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Sep 11 - 11:34 PM

Skateboarders!!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Python Ban Could Topple US Economy?!
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Sep 11 - 01:23 AM

... maybe thay're out to make this country a better habitat for reptiles.

Well dick, you can't blame anyone for wanting a nice place to retire.

John


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