BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?

Subject: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: melodeonboy
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 10:30 AM

I've noticed adverts on (British) telly recently for Heinz tomato soup and Heinz baked beans, both claiming that they count towards your "5 a day".

While I accept that they have some nutritional value, can they really be counted as such? If so, are we now going to see the promotion of fruit and fresh veg scrapped in favour of tinned beans in a salty, sugary sauce?

Food technology is not my area of competence, but I smell a rat, especially where huge food corporations are concerned.

Any ideas/comments/info?

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 10:34 AM

5 whats?

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 10:34 AM

Tomato Soup I could understand, baked beans I can't.

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 10:48 AM

Re the soup, this claim was upheld by the UK Foods Standards Commission in 2003, as a can 'contains' 80g of fruit. But anyone with any sense can see that this is NOT what was intended by the Five-A-Day campaign. People need FRESH fruit and vegetables, and opning a tin of processed tomatoes just doesn't qualify IMO. You'd be better off eating the raw tomatoes instead.
Re the beans, they do provide fibre and protein, but again, their Vit C content will have been reduced by cooking, and sugar has been added to the sauce.
It amuses me that people will do almost anything to avoid eating fresh fruit and vegetables. They want the benefits but for some reason don't want to actually eat the stuff! If you could merely take a pill which gave you instant 5-a-day, they'd be ecstatic. I love all fruit and vegetables, and feel a bit unwell if I don't have them.

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 10:50 AM

Mrrzy ~ This is what OP was referring to

"5 A Day is the name of a number of programs in countries such as the USA, the United Kingdom and Germany, to encourage the consumption of at least five portions of fruit and vegetables each day, following requests by the World Health Organization to consume at least 400g of vegetables daily."

from Wikipedia qv.

~Michael~

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 12:08 PM

It appears that cooked tomatoes are better for you than raw tomatoes, unlike other vegetables. Maybe this is something to do with the fact that they aren't vegetables, they are fruit.

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 12:51 PM

Don't altogether follow that, McG. Fresh fruit, uncooked, is surely as nutritionally valuable as stewed or baked fruit? I am sure tomatoes are good, either cooked or raw ~~ & it surely depends on the means of cooking; one doesn't fry apples of pears, but one can fry tomatoes, which I cannot but feel must counteract the nutritional benefits to some extent; whereas boiled or grilled they should be OK.

Don't get me wrong ~~ I love a fry-up; but don't delude self that it is good to me. Back to Dorothy Parker [or whoever it was]: "Everything nice is either illegal or immoral or fattening"!

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 01:01 PM

Apparently fresh fruit or vegetables may have been in storage for quite a while before you eat them. Canned or frozen foods might contain more vitamins.

I believe that the best thing to do is to eat a variety of things, avoid excess sugar, salt and fat, and have a good time.

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 01:53 PM

The tomato thing is all to do with something that is released when cooking. Or maybe got rid of? You can tell that I am a scientist by that explanaytion I hope:-)

Anyway - cooking some things makes them far better. I wouldn't dream of eating raw barley and hops but after you boil them and leave them for a while...

:DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 02:49 PM

I think the 5-a-day idea was intended to guide people away a bit from the endless highly calorific pizza, KFC, Burgers etc, which are all a pastry/beige colour, and get them to go for filling but not fattening colourful stuff, fruit, vegetables, five times a day. It's not so much about vitamins and healthy foods, as reducing the vast intake of stodgy stuff which is the cause of much of the obesity. If they stuff an apple in their mouth, they aren't munching on a doughnut!

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 03:11 PM

Heinz beans...






It's one of my







57 a Day...






Quack!
GtD.


p.s. The 5 a Day thing, as Eliza says, is mainly about getting people to eat things other than MaDonald's and similar. It's to try get people to eat foods containing fibre and some vitamins not found in some processed foods. If Heinz can tick the "what is needed" boxes, more power to their elbow. Don't just knock them because they are a big company. Sometimes big can do okay...
Quack!

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: gnu
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 03:30 PM

KFC and fruits and veggies... that'll get ya up and going early in the morning!

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 04:19 PM

cooking some things makes them far better

For example, I'd keep off the raw meat myself.

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 05:42 PM

I must admit I've never succumbed to the temptation od Steak Tartare.

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 Oct 11 - 06:37 PM

Mthe Gm doesn't like fried apples or pears? They are one of the best ways of preparing them. Use as a side dish to meat or poultry.

FRIED APPLES

3 tablespoons butter
3 tart apples, *quartered and sliced
1/3 cup brown sugar
2 teaspoons brown granulated sugar as garnish.

Heat butter at medium heat in a non-stick skillet.
Add apples, cover and cook for about 5 minutes
Uncover and cook 2-3 minutes more**, until sugar is absorbed and apples slightly browned on bottom.
Put apples in serving dish and sprinkle with the brown sugar.
Use as side dish to pork, ham, chicken, or serve with your bacon and egg breakfast.

*Southerners usually leave the apple slices or wedges unpeeled.
**Cook so that the apples are to your taste- I like them firm, so I reduce the cooking time.

A great "5 a day" fruit.

My 5 a day is 5 cups coffee with 5 biscotti.

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 11 Oct 11 - 09:23 AM

Wouldn't it be better to make homemade soup? Not only would you know what has gone into it, it would probablly work out cheaper compared to one average size can of soup.

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 11 Oct 11 - 09:57 AM

Writing in the latest issue of the Journal of Agriculture and Food Chemistry Rui Hai Liu, Cornell assistant professor of food science, said: "This research demonstrates that heat processing actually enhanced the nutritional value of tomatoes by increasing the lycopene content that can be absorbed by the body, as well as the total antioxidant activity. The research dispels the popular notion that processed fruits and vegetables have lower nutritional value than fresh produce."
http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science-Nutrition/Tomatoes-cooked-better-than-raw

Subject: RE: BS: Heinz - one of your 5 a day?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 03:51 AM

I didn't say I didn't like fried apples & pears, Q ~~ just that they are not a usual part of our UK cuisine. If we cook them, it is usually by stewing or baking. I gather this not to be the case elsewhere?

~M~