Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please

Subject: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Quasimodo
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 05:30 AM

Can anyone identify the tune that is on this YouTube Clip:

http://youtu.be/vJcU1llnQPc

Thanks in advance.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Little Robyn
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 07:08 AM

Don't know its name but I've heard the Chieftans play it.
Robyn

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 07:11 AM

Ask the uploader? It's obviously been added in editing to a silent clip. I suspect the odd gaps are the result of an editing glitch rather than something in the original tune.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 07:57 AM

It's Morning Dew which is normally a reel, though the Chieftains give it more of a hornpipe "bounce" and leave some of the notes out (to good effect IMO). So if you find the dots you may wind up with more quavers in the bar than you want, and will have to pick this version out from it. But it's the same tune. It's on one of the earlier Chieftains albums, C's 4 or C's 5 (possibly C's 3) - try looking for a discography.

Interesting to see the photos of Harry Boland, and I didn't know he'd been in Lewes Gaol (wonder if he was around during Bonfire Night and what he'd have made of it). Nice video clips, those.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 07:58 AM

It's not really an Irish tune, it's an intro the Chieftains played to the Morning Dew. The track is on Chieftains 4 I believe.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 07:58 AM

x posted

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 07:59 AM

Isn't it? It's in Breathnach's Ceol Rince (vol 1) tho I know that doesn't constitute proof. Where's it from, then?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 08:00 AM

Me too!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 08:21 AM

The part I heard in the video was only the intro, that I assume Paddy Moloney put together, it wasn't the Morning Dew as such. In other words, what the pipes are playing there is not the Morning dew.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 08:33 AM

Yes, I had that problem too - you have to push the play-bar back to the beginning. In fact, I also managed to wander onto the wrong Harry Boland film and get Liebestraume as the backing track - but the video itself was very interesting with a lot of Boland shots I hadn't seen before. Went back and tried again - third time lucky.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: MartinRyan
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 09:29 AM

Is it not the first few bars of one of those marches The Chieftains were always fond of?

Regards

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 09:42 AM

It does go into the Morning Dew after that but those first few bars sound rather like the Morning Star. I wonder if this was the happy result of a mistake or mishearing ib rehearsal?

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 09:45 AM

No. It's a reel.

I can hear the fiddle playing a bit of the Morning Dew in the second bit of the short clip.

Try this

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 09:46 AM

Anybody got a Chieftains 4 to hand to listen to the whole track? I only heard that YouTube video, but as I say, from the beginning. I haven't seen/heard Chieftains 4 in years - mine is only the old LP which I can't play anymore :-(

That record was the first time I (and a lot of other folks I bet) heard Derek Bell. I wore the grooves off Morgan Magan.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 09:48 AM

I posted a link to it above, Bonnie.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 09:50 AM

I know - I cross posted and wrote that before I saw either your or Manitas' posts. (Mudcat's slooooooowwww today)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 11:18 AM

Sorry for creating the apparent confusion, what I meant to say was that the bits you hear in the clip are not an Irish tune, they're an intro, counter melody or whatever you want to call it the Chieftain played on that particular track, The Morning Dew or the Hare in the Heather or whatever name you want to use for the tune. The tune itself is only represented there by the opening bar you can hear the fiddle start towards the end of the clip.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: terrier
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 03:50 PM

The Chieftains use this arrangement on their 'Another Country' album CD. It's used as an intro to the song 'Wabash Cannonball' and is in the notes as 'Morning Dew', traditional arrangement by Paddy Molony.

Here on YouTube live Morning Dew

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Quasimodo
Date: 12 Oct 11 - 04:34 PM

Thanks everyone for your quick responses on the source of that little sound clip.