Mudcat Slow!!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 08:40 PM

I will scarf it up for ya Max, I promise. They used it to backup all the PC's in the office so I suspect it has a lot of horses under the hood.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 08:52 PM

Fingers crossed, olddude (maybe that'll help ease your boredom problem?) Max, thanks for all your efforts.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 09:22 PM

Oh, gee, we're in trouble....Max has resorted to puns.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: EBarnacle
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 09:45 PM

so, why is it OK going back to the menu and slow going to the threads?

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Janie
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 09:57 PM

the font and page (and no cookie) have the appearance of the test site or whatever it is called where Max tries out new tricks, etc.

Thanks for doing what you can, Max. And thanks,Dan, if you have access to equipment that may help the problem.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 20 Feb 12 - 10:02 PM

EBarnacle

When you go back to the menu the menu has already been loaded once, and is in your browser's temp file. If the menu page doesn't load immediately, your browser will show the version that's in memory.

Depending on your settings, your browser may try to refresh and reload the page everytime you call for the page again, but usually will flip to the stored page fairly quickly if the site reponse is slow.

When you open a page, it's not in memory, so the browser has to wait until the site responds - so it's often slower, although when things are working right you might not notice the difference.

John

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: EBarnacle
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 01:02 AM

OK, that works for me. Thanks, John.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 03:25 AM

Seems a bit better this morning, lets hope it continues to improve.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Mike Mandaville
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 06:26 AM

I was unable to post a couple of times, but now things are back to normal. This site is unique, and I appreciate the work that goes into keeping it functioning.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Paul Slade
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 09:05 AM

Still very slow for me here in London - and refusing to let me post links.

Thanks to everyone who's trying to sort this out.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 09:32 AM

Ditto in Canada. Over a minute to get onto Mudcat, over forty seconds to get this thread to open.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 09:37 AM

And over 1 1/2 minutes to get that last post to take. Good luck sorting it out.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 09:49 AM

About 2 seconds to open and 3/4 to completely load. I don't know if you just did something, but thanks.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 09:51 AM

Slick as corn thru a goose just now. Whatever ya did, it worked.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 09:58 AM

Well, it was nice while it lasted. Back to crawling.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 11:39 AM

Max
It is a Dell Poweredge 6600. Has 12 hot swap raid drives. I think they are 800's ... haven't fired it up but I will to make sure it is all good. Big bugger lots of power. Its yours if you want it. I don't know the memory yet but knowing my client they only go first class on everything so I suspect lots of horsepower under the hood. They used it to daily backup over 100 pc's so its a big filing cabinet

Dan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 11:56 AM

Max here is the specs I think this will do it myself

http://www.dell.com/downloads/emea/products/pedge/66XS.pdf

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 12:13 PM

Quad processors

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 01:08 PM

Dan is the MAN!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 01:25 PM

older technology GNU but maybe better than what we have now, see if Max wants it .. maybe it won't work for the cat but its the best I can do right now. They are retiring two more servers in a month that are a little more newer

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Lighter
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 08:25 PM

Real, real slow in Dixie. Sometimes won't connect at all.

And now this message keeps bouncing back. (8:25 EST)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Joe_F
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 09:12 PM

Took 45 s for the site to come up. Took another 40 s for this page to come up. Verizon & Conkeror.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 10:11 PM

So the Mudcat is well and truly *swamped* and here I thought they were fresh water fish.:-)

Max, hang in there. Dan, you are wonderful. I hope the server works!

Do we all need to chip in for shipping costs?

luvya'llkat

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 10:24 PM

A ping from out here in Idaho shows an average out-and-back of about 190 ms.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max
Date: 21 Feb 12 - 10:38 PM

still fiddling. we aren't giving up.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 05:37 AM

Slow at 06:00 AST... if that info helps in diagnostics.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: ChillToad
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 06:02 AM

Intermittently slow here in the West Country as at 10:55 GMT.

One thing though - everyone on this thread is very patient and understanding. I've been on sites where people are screaming at the mods within minutes if the slightest thing goes wrong.

Big shout out to Max, Dan and to the rest of us nice folk folk!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Monique
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 06:59 AM

It's been low for more than 3 days here (Southern France)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jon Corelis
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 09:38 AM

Here in the great American midwest for the past several days the site has been slower than a herd of turtles stampeding through a peanut butter swamp.

Jon Corelis
Eldorado by Edgar Alllan Poe: a musical setting

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 11:21 AM

Just got faster, lots.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 11:22 AM

Agreed.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 11:44 AM

SCREAMING - Fast connections.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

The move to GoDaddy was an interesting necessity

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 12:00 PM

It takes up to ten seconds to get a response to a page load request. It's never been worse.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 12:05 PM

And at least twice that time to get that last post through.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Larry Saidman
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 12:13 PM

Really slow in British Columbia.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 12:40 PM

Max let me know if you want that thing ... Dan

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: pdq
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 12:52 PM

Dan is offering to upgrade the Mudcat server to a Radio Shack TRS 80.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 01:14 PM

Avg of 90 seconds up and download today until a few minutes ago. Now back to normal. Shhhhhhh.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 01:38 PM

Shoulda said shhhh FIRST. Shhhhit!

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 01:54 PM

Dah PDQ, it is an Apple II LOL, although the TRS80 would probably perform better right now

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 02:01 PM

Looks like better servers are needed.

Elimination of all messages below the line might help.

Impossible to tell if posts will be recognized without waits, no point in posting anything other than brief comments.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 04:45 PM

Q... the messages 'below the line' have almost NO effect on the total. They used to be mixed with all the others...and still can be if you choose.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 06:21 PM

More time for important stuff... Like drenkin'...

B;~)

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 06:51 PM

Threads below the line are an important genesis of thoughts, ideas, dicussions... which lead to banter between many different people from many different countries and cultures. They lead to education, mutual support, healing, stories... and, yes, songs.

To lose the BS section would be a terrible thing IMO. And, as pointed out, it probably wouldn't make a difference in access.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 07:17 PM

No BS???

No Mudcat...

Just MO, of course...

B~

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 07:18 PM

I don't know if it's the amount of data being stored. Seems to me that keeps growing, but doesn't fluctuate. What DOES is how many hits Mudcat gets and what happens because of them. It could be people here on purpose, people that come through searches, spammers, and who knows what all that come to Mudcat and queries so that Mudcat works to answer. I don't know, but I DO know Max needs some new equipment.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 07:30 PM

Love to see some budget numbers for new equipment. Let's go shopping!

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,oldddude
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 09:12 PM

My server will be at Max's house this Sunday. My brother goes to the town to see his grandkids and will be delivering it, hang in there

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max
Date: 22 Feb 12 - 11:49 PM

Upgrade financials coming very very soon... but you ain't gonna like it. Lots of zeros in this here number.

Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Feb 12 - 03:16 AM

It's running pretty good this morning, 8.15am UK time.

Dave H