BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists

Subject: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Paul Burke
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 03:12 PM

Oklahoma Senator wants ban on human fetuses in food

What are we going to barbecue when we invite our Satanist neighbours round?

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 03:21 PM

Right.... and next he'll want to assure us that Muslim Sharia law won't take over our schools & churches.

Oklahoma is a major sanctuary for these kind of folk.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 03:31 PM

It seems Ralph Shortey is short of a few clues.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 03:39 PM

Aborted fetuses are a relatively rare source of stem cells. A more readily available source is the placenta, or "afterbirth." It's usually disposed of as "medical waste" anyway.

I believe it was Jonathan Swift who wrote a little piece called "A Modest Proposal," in which he suggested that the Irish could help to alleviate the potato famine by eating their young. First of all, he said, they tended to produce many children, so there was a ready source of food. And secondly, he said, "It would help to reduce the number of Papists in the world."

Well, at least this kind of earth-shaking matter will keep Senator Shortey occupied while the adults get on with their work.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 04:03 PM

Cosmetic companies have been using human placentas for decades.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 04:35 PM

This guy makes me sound like a moderate, fer Chrissake! I hear he hates apes and monkeys too and wants to ban them from voting or marrying in Oklahoma. And he wants us to all wear muzzles in public!!! He will be in deep shit when I get elected.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 04:45 PM

I mean REALLY deep shit. If I was him, I would move to South America. Pronto. And leave no forwarding address. I have heard of loose cannons before, but this guy goes way beyond toleration!

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 05:07 PM

Why make a religious argument out of it, Paul? It doesn't have anything to do with people's rights as atheists.

There's a guy in the Oklahoma legislature who's an idiot. So, what else is new? Do you think that non-atheists in large numbers are going to agree with him? My guess is that there may even be a few atheist idiots who see things his way.

As Jesus said (more or less): the idiots, you have always with you....

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Paul Burke
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 05:53 PM

Hey Joe, everyone knows we eat children when w're up to no worse. Anti science is because they know what we're like, tryin' to evolute critters into what the Lord never intended.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Jeri
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:07 PM

What do you mean 'we' ?

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:11 PM

Well if ya do eat em, I hope you cook em first ...
When will it ever end ... sigh

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:19 PM

Shortey should try them boiled alive, like lobster. Irresistible.

An Atheist

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Greg F.
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:21 PM

As Jesus said (more or less): the idiots, you have always with you....

Yeah, but they seem to be multiplying out of control & exponentially of late, don't they Joe? I don't think even Jesus foresaw them as this large a percentage of the population.

No surprise this particular idiot is a Republican, tho.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Jeri
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:23 PM

It'll end when people realize how ridiculous it is to try that hard to pick a fight.

Personally, I prefer chicken pre-fetuses.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:30 PM

Nah, it's just the fundamentalists who think atheists eat babies. The rest of us think atheists eat fundamentalists, and we kinda enjoy the spectacle....

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:38 PM

metaphorically;i think they like to think they do !

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 07:00 PM

Greg-
As Jesus said (more or less): the idiots, you have always with you....

They come out in huge numbers during election years. That's why it was a big mistake for the U.S. to have Members of Congress elected every two years. It makes for a near-constant overflow of idiots.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Paul Burke
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 07:01 PM

Oh god, I'd gag on that.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,amergin
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 03:42 PM

What really irritates me about his plan, is that aborted fetuses are an important part of the gluten free diet....which has certainly been helping me lose weight. If they ban the use of fetuses in food, what will I do?

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 03:54 PM

I am agin them usin' them there fretuses as food! How'll I play banjo without ma frets?

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 04:06 PM

The link in the first message doesn't work for me. Can anyone fix it or create a better one?

Silly me, I like to know what a thread is really about before I comment on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 05:04 PM

I hope you know that in the next few days I'll be getting an e-mail from my wife's cousins telling me all about the use of fetuses in food and how we need to ban it NOW. And from the looks of them - a human fetus is the only thing they wouldn't eat.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 05:15 PM

Try that, Jim.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jaD5EahSr5H4KTcXeD6G5uOL8ugw?docId=8115507ba29848d78f410fe8d5de412a

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: foggers
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 05:46 PM

And the fetuses that escape being put in our food are fed to the 12ft tall reptiles who really run the planet, carefully disguised as members of the Royal Family.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Don Firth
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 07:31 PM

CLICKY.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Mrrzy
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 07:32 PM

Aw, man, really, LOL!

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: frogprince
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 10:33 PM

Just googled it; he's a freshman senator, Ralph Shortey. Guess which party. His right-wing collegues are obviously finding him an embarassement, but you can tell they're trying to find the right phrasing to distance themselves without calling him a nutjob.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,Ian Mather sans cookie
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 03:14 AM

Paul, when I saw the title of the thread,I thought you meant this irrelevant yet dangerous nonsense.

Bigot is bigotry victim - Shock!

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 04:34 AM

Well, Ian, I have to agree with you. I see no reason whey the churches see a need to interfere with civil marriages. I don't think they should be forced to perform or bless marriages that don't comply with their standards, but I can't understand why churches (including my own Catholic Church) should have any concern about marriages performed by government.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,Paul Burke
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 05:25 AM

If an organisation receives public money (and that includes tax concessions) they should conform with the law. Or give up those concessions, hey I can see the C of E, with its vast property holdings, doing that...

To compound things, Sentanamu has direct influence through his (unelected) seat in the House of Lords.

But that's off topic. The good Senator's proposal would devastate the traditional English chip shop, a popular order being chips, babbie's yed, and mushy peas.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: GUEST,999
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 09:32 AM

Maybe Soylent Green wasn't so far off the target, and Shortey came up with one excellent idea:

"He [Shortey] also offered an amendment to a bill that would have allowed legislators to carry firearms anywhere in the state, including the floor of the House and Senate."

There's a mad genius inside that skull. Would that that were federal law.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Mr Happy
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 10:26 AM

..........so Heinz's 58th? variety will be 'Human Beans'?

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 10:29 AM

...with kidney beans being a specialty niche...

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Neil D
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 10:54 AM

Those aren't tomatoes, Mister, those are ....er, never mind.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: MarkS
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 02:10 PM

As a believer, I believe we should all have another beer.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: foggers
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 07:27 PM

Amen to that, Brothers n Sisters.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 09:32 PM

I'm really confused. Is this a religion thread, a political thread, or a recipe thread?

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 09:53 PM

I think it's a troll thread that's getting all the serious consideration it deserves.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:58 AM

These troll threads often throw up comment which doesn't get into the major media Jeri. I think there's a certainly value added component, due to the exposure of extreme political views.

At the moment many in the USA are aware of the Republicans' blocking activities to prevent a Democrat president from achieving anything at all (and to keep an uppity......well you know the rest).

What is beginning to show up as a pattern is the streak of madness running through the GOP, which ought to make that party unelectable.

The more that the screaming nut jobs are exposed to view (and you won't see them on any serious news media) the better.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Little Hawk
Date: 31 Jan 12 - 01:41 AM

I'm sure the powers that be (the great Oligarchy) will be absolutely delighted to have Obama in for another 4 years. He's doing everything they want him to, after all, so why would there be any need to replace him at this juncture with the F-ing Republicans? That being the case, why not keep the GOP unelectable for the time being?

I've been expecting Obama to be re-elected all along. I also expect more war, more corruption, less civil liberties, less truth, and more lies.

Pretty much what you'd get whether or not Obama gets re-elected, in other words, cos that's what the Republicans would do too if they were in office. Why switch the status quo in Washington when it's already working just as planned?

Selling a president is the vital matter. And Obama was sold brilliantly in 2008. Might as well go for the whole 8 years rather than switching horses when there's no need to.

Obama's just the horse.....he's NOT the driver. You don't see the driver(s). Just like you don't see the little man behind the screen in the Land of Oz. You see the racehorses they trot out in front of you at election time.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Bill D
Date: 31 Jan 12 - 07:09 PM

LH... that amounts to one MORE giant conspiracy theory... the type that, no matter what happens, one can say "See? Things are not as we would wish, so something sinister must be going on behind the scenes."

Like the 100 MPG carburetor that "they" are hiding...proof? Well, we can't find it or use it, so it MUST be hidden!

ah well, no matter what you 'feel' about it all, just hope that Obama does win again, because the conservatives are dead set on making 'hidden control' a standard feature.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Musket
Date: 01 Feb 12 - 04:58 AM

On a point of order.. If they had a 100mpg carburettor, it would fail emissions tests. Only fuel injection systems can achieve the EU levels, and I note USA levels are getting there..

Although, there are carb' motorbikes out there managing 100mpg? My old Honda 50, back in the late '70s even, could get that.

Sorry, Am I missing the point?

I love conspiracy theories. I love how there are more out there than I know of, but they are being purposely hidden from me.

Whilst I don't want to tread on USA election debates, I for one want Obama to win again. If the fundamentalists get in, we will have to sex up a dossier and invade. Still, makes a change from friendly fire I suppose.

Subject: RE: BS: Infringement of our Rights as Atheists
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Feb 12 - 05:44 AM

Yes, Bill...(smile)...I can see you living comfortably in Berlin or Nuremberg back in the early 30s and saying to a fellow German, "You think we're heading for some kind of fascist dictatorship in this country? You think we'll be living under a police state soon? You poor fellow, don't you realize that's just another GIANT conspiracy theory? It'll never happen here. We have a democracy. You must be one of those funny fellows who keeps a tinfoil hat in the closet and has a secret hiding place with a hidden door behind the mantle. Poor lad! You must give up these lurid fantasies."


I hope for nothing anymore in regards to the USA, Bill. I don't place my hopes on a place that has very little hope left, I simply avoid it if I possibly can, and live somewhere else.

I wish you luck, though. You personally, I mean, cos I think you're a good man.