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Subject: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 30 Jan 12 - 06:44 PM This is pretty amusing: Several Alabama citizens have filed a lawsuit within the Alabama Circuit Court to "prevent certification of President Barack Obama for 2012 Alabama ballot access pending final hearing based on factual evidentiary hearings." The deadline for any candidate to register to appear on the Alabama Presidential Primary ballot is just days away, but by agreeing to hear the case, the Alabama Courts have effectively stalled any efforts by the Democratic Party to place Obama on the ballot. http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_31406.php I don't have an opinion on the birthplace issue, but I would like to see Obama's records. Especially his school records. Many say that he never attended college classes because he was working for the CIA at the time. Could be, seeing as how the Nobel War Prize winner has been starting wars for them since he took office. Mitt Romney should be challenged on the eligibility, too. His father was born in Mexico. I suspect that's one of the reasons the mainstream media is pushing him so hard, because he has the same birth issues as Obama, more or less. At any rate, there's a chance now that Alabama, Georgia and Arizona will demand proof of citizenship before putting a candidate's name on the next presidential ballot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: number 6 Date: 30 Jan 12 - 06:49 PM Personally I don't give a rat's ass where any politician is born. Does it really matter. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: artbrooks Date: 30 Jan 12 - 06:51 PM Case thrown out 1/9/12. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 12 - 06:53 PM Oh really, wrong... You have repeatedly posted right winged BS from right winged bloggers and organizations... Obam ahs produced a certified copy of his birth certificate... Maybe Mudcat should require you to do the same to post here and then after you have Mudcat arbitrarily proclaims that that's not good enough for them and shut you down... That's what you want of Obama... You wouldn't be happy if God hisself knocked on your door, grabbed you by the throat and screamed "Obama was born in Hawaii... Get a life!!!" B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Rapparee Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:01 PM A certified copy of his birth cert is posted, the US Supreme Court ruled in his favor, and anyone who thinks that either political party would field an unqualified candidate is a candidate for medication. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:15 PM A couple of other injunctions have been file in the case, it appears. Can't get the site that headlined that to open right now. But this is very interesting because there's a chance Obama will be kept off the ballot in some state. If that happened, would you vote for him? If the accreditation committee from a state said, "We went to Hawaii and determined the birth certificate is a forgery," would you vote for him? And how would that affect his chances, if he was on only 49 of the 50 state ballots? Do you think the pro-Obama mainstream media would even report it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:28 PM biLL, it does matter constitutionally where a candidate for President is born. In the case of President Obama, however, his birthplace has been determined and accepted by all but a few diehards. That any court would have even considered hearing this...but then many unmeritorious suits have been allowed by courts over the years...is beyond comprehension. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: GUEST,999 Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:34 PM Posted: 3:54 AM Jan 18, 2012 Crenshaw County Man's Lawsuit to Remove Obama from Ballot Denied A judge is dismissing the latest lawsuit seeking to keep President Barack Obama off the Alabama ballot this year. Reporter: Associated Press Story 2 Comments Font Size: BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) -- A judge is dismissing the latest lawsuit seeking to keep President Barack Obama off the Alabama ballot this year. Jefferson County Circuit Judge Helen Shores Lee threw out the suit by Crenshaw County resident Harold Sorensen during a hearing in Birmingham on Tuesday, saying state courts have no jurisdiction in the matter. Sorensen claims Obama isn't eligible to serve as president because he doesn't meet citizenship requirements. He sued last week in Jefferson County. Lee previously threw out a similar lawsuit filed by another man who was challenging Obama's place of birth. The Birmingham News reports that Sorensen filed suit challenging the citizenship of then-Republican presidential nominee John McCain in 2009. That's from http://www.wtvy.com/politics/alabamapolitics/Crenshaw_County_Mans_Lawsuit_to_Remove_Obama_from_Ballot_Denied_137552473.html ############################################ The State of Alabama seems to have no jurisdiction in the matter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:46 PM We'd have to be nuts NOT to challenge the eligibility of candidates. As I recall, Obama's credentials were okayed by the Democratic National Committee, which meant Howard Dean at the time. Do you trust Howard Dean's word on anything? I don't. So states need to protect their citizens by verifying that the officials elected at the federal level are AT LEAST citizens. Obama's first act as president was to seal all his records. Birth records, school records, everything. Suspicious, to say the least. Could any of you draw your pensions if you refused to show proof of eligibility? Of course not. So it's reasonable to hold office seekers to the same standard. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Lox Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:49 PM I think songwronger may be referring to the telepathically transmitted news from Orions belt that Obama (Elvis's love child and father) was actually born in 3 thousand galaxies simultaneously. But this must be true ... as it says in the bible: "From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths." ... sweet home alabama ... dum de dum ... ... whizz - pop - burble ... . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Bill D Date: 30 Jan 12 - 08:06 PM lemmee see... Alabama & Georgia..etc. had Obama on the ballot 4 years ago, but NOW some right-wing nuts want to disqualify a sitting president because of 'claims' which various courts have already dismissed? How many times to we have to tell you, Hawaii IS a state, and Mr. & Mrs. Obama had a baby there, which was noted in local papers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Greg F. Date: 30 Jan 12 - 08:12 PM Hey, fuckwits is fuckwits. The good Lord must like 'em, 'cause he made many more of 'em than he/she did poor folks. That don't mean we have to suffer fuckwits. (P.S.: Alabama & Georgia, eh/ - only thing that surprises me is that the Mississippi fuckwits didn't jump on the bandwagon.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: kendall Date: 30 Jan 12 - 08:18 PM And, the republican Governor of Hawaii said he saw Obama's birth certificate with his own eyes. John McCain told some silly old fool that Obama is not an Arab. I don't give a rodent's rump if he worships toadstools, it is his right under the first amendment. Songwronger, did you know that Fox "news" is banned in Canada? they have the good sense to forbid lies being telecast as news. HOORAY FOR CANADA. As Richard Petty said to NASCAR, "If you can't beat it, ban it." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Don Firth Date: 30 Jan 12 - 08:32 PM PATHETIC! Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is a graduate of Columbia University AND Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He served three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, then won a seat in the United States Senate in 2004. He resigned when he was elected President. He is far better qualified than several recent presidents. Those are the facts, Songwronger, but they don't seem to be interfering with various peoples' fantasies, prejudices, and wishful thinking. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: gnu Date: 30 Jan 12 - 08:38 PM Obama is more "American" than any who doubt his citizenship. What amazes me is the number of very strange people that get elected to public office. Yes, any idiot can file a law suit, based on inane bullshit, but elected officials with a warped sense of reality really baffles me. That may be tread drift, but not by much. How they stir up this shit is beyond me. I am not pleased with what he has "been able" to do so far, but his having to deal with idiots and nutjobs and grandstanders at every turn certainly has been even more disappointing. United you stand, divided, yer screwed. Yer choice, voters. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 12 - 08:41 PM Ignore morons... I wished I had not responded to this very messed up person... Don't argue with the insane... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 30 Jan 12 - 09:06 PM Hey, I don't think Mitt Romney should be allowed to run for president. His father was born in Mexico, which means Mitt could apply for and be granted Mexican citizenship based on birth records. Shouldn't be allowed in the presidency. Democrats brought the eligibility issue on themselves when they shoved aside Hillary Clinton (who had earned the nomination) so Obama the Unknown could be enthroned. His first act as president was to seal his historical records. What the hell would you expect to come out of that? Hopefully the issue of citizenship will be fully explored by both parties and the media in the run-up to this election. That's the silver lining. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Alice Date: 30 Jan 12 - 09:10 PM Pass the tin foil hats again! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 12 - 09:14 PM Back during my social worker days I went to a training session with the Department of Mental Health and recall vividly some advice: Don't argue with crazy people... Stuck with me... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 30 Jan 12 - 09:36 PM Fine. I have a candidate named Putin and one named Merkel some of you may be interested in. You have a bad habit of name calling, Bobert. Do you do it because you're bored or because you're too lazy to debate? You really shouldn't call me names, because you're laid your ignorant ass so bare on this place that a two-year-old could kick it. For example, you have some whining thread running about failed kids moving back home yaddayaddayadda. Why are you so intellectually dishonest that you can't tell them "Obama is yo mama" and kick their asses out? Or maybe you have. I avoid hillbilly soap operas so I haven't read the thread. But if you really believe Obama is The One, then kick your kids out and let them move into Obamavilles. Or send them off to fight Obama's wars. To do any less is intellectually dishonest, like I said, and could be construed as cowardice on your part. Is that what you are, a coward? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 30 Jan 12 - 09:37 PM lol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Richard Bridge Date: 30 Jan 12 - 09:43 PM Well, even though they are pretty right-wing, Merkel certainly and Putin possibly would be better than any of the current Tea Potty nutjobs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Bobert Date: 30 Jan 12 - 09:57 PM Debating with Charles Manson is like debating with a turtle that has just become a pancake on the interstate highway, wrongman... No, it slike debating with the highway... There is no debate... You say that water is actually fire in disguise??? Okee dokee, wrongster... Whatever??? I ain't callin' you names... I'm just pointing out that you are a friggin' nutball... That is an observation from someone with 18 years of working with mentally ill clients../. Sorry if you want to suck the non-mentally-ill into your ballgame but life is to short to... ...argue with crazy people... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Don Firth Date: 30 Jan 12 - 11:14 PM Watching Fox News rots your brain. Pity. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: John P Date: 30 Jan 12 - 11:17 PM It looks like P. T. Barnum was right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 30 Jan 12 - 11:59 PM So you're too afraid to debate. The smell of your cowardice would choke a dog off a gut wagon, as the saying goes. You shouldn't call names. What I've laid out in this thread is perfectly reasonable. We have a constitution that spells out certain eligibility requirements. Obama was certified as ballot-worthy by the head of the DNC (Howard Dean at the time). Since then his eligibility has become suspect, and people in Alabama, Georgia and Arizona are questioning his right to be on the ballot next time around. Obama's official biography cannot be verified without the documents he withdrew from public scrutiny. I seriously doubt that he attended many (if any) classes at Columbia, and when he was a "professor" at Harvard, his lectures were probably prepared for him. He's made too many mistakes when talking extemporaneously about the constitution to be a true expert on it. He's most likely a CIA spook, and that's why his records are sealed--to hide the fact that he was working for the CIA when he was supposed to be in class at Columbia. And the Harvard job was just a way of padding his resume until a political career could be fashioned for him. As far as his place of birth, who knows? Maybe when the Attorneys General from Alabama, Georgia and Arizona look at the documents they'll be able to put the matter to rest. I hope so. I voted for Obama because he promised to end the wars. You all heard the promises. He violated them. And if he would lie to the point of killing, would he not lie in order to achieve office? He also promised "transparency," but then the first thing he did was seal his documents. So I applaud people's efforts to bring those documents to light. All of you should do the same. Daylight is good for politics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: John P Date: 31 Jan 12 - 12:39 AM So you're too afraid to debate. Nope. Care to try again? How about it's a waste of time to debate with the willfully ignorant? you're too afraid . . . The smell of your cowardice . . . You shouldn't call names. Hee hee hee! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Don Firth Date: 31 Jan 12 - 12:53 AM Wrong-o, there is nothing to debate. You're trying to ressurect a lot of garbage that couldn't get traction with anyone but a bunch of Right-Wing bigots when it was first trotted out, and has long since been debunked. Many times. And here you are, dragging that old, dead, decaying horse out again and trying to whip it into running another race. It really Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: GUEST,Wesley S Date: 31 Jan 12 - 07:56 AM "Obama's first act as president was to seal all his records. Birth records, school records, everything. " Would it be too much to ask for a shred of proof for this allegation? From a reputable news source? And no - a birther website doesn't count. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: GUEST,Wesley S Date: 31 Jan 12 - 08:05 AM "Hey, I don't think Mitt Romney should be allowed to run for president. His father was born in Mexico, which means Mitt could apply for and be granted Mexican citizenship based on birth records. Shouldn't be allowed in the presidency." It seems that American law is not based on your likes and dislikes - From ABC News {AKA the mainstream media } : George Romney was born to American citizens living in a Mormon church colony in Chihuahua, Mexico. Even though he wasn't born in a United States territory or state, George Romney was given citizenship at birth because he was born to American citizens, essentially granting him the status of a natural-born citizen. "When you're born outside the United States to [U.S.] citizens, you have citizenship at birth," explained Peter J. Spiro, a professor of law and an expert on the law of citizenship at Temple University. "You don't have to do anything to claim your citizenship. You are a citizen from birth." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: GUEST,Wesley S Date: 31 Jan 12 - 08:20 AM About Obama's first executive order |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Greg F. Date: 31 Jan 12 - 08:25 AM elected officials with a warped sense of reality really baffles me. Can't imagine why, Gnu- simply reflects the warped sense of reality & delusions of the ignorant electorate. Q.E.D. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Little Hawk Date: 31 Jan 12 - 10:45 AM There have been issues of this sort swirling around the Chongo campaign too, ever since he first declared his candidacy. And yet there is NO ONE more loyal to the USA than Chongo Chimp! It's outrageous that some people (including some fanatics on this very forum) would question Chongo's loyalty to the United States of America and his competence to serve as president! Such people should be ashamed of themselves. They are rank specists. They don't think that an "uppity" Chimp has any right to be president, but they won't come out and admit that that's what they're really thinking. I note that Chongo has also been denied a place on the Alabama ballot. Coincidence???? I don't think so! And I further think that Chongo would make a far better president than either Obama OR Mitt F-ing Romney ever will. So there. ;-D Remember, folks: Satire has a purpose. It's purpose is to get people to look a little closer at the status quo they all take for granted, look a little closer at their own kneejerk way of thinking...and question it. King Kong died for your sins. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: John P Date: 31 Jan 12 - 10:49 AM If I were a national politician, I would do everything in my power to keep the public out of my personal life. The press, political enemies, and crazy people like Songwronger really don't have any business prying into anything that doesn't directly affect the public life of a politician. And no, sexual affairs, smoking pot when in college, and what your third grade classmate thought of you are none of our business. How would you like to have your personal dirty laundry displayed for the world to see? I know, I know, they a public figures and have less claim to privacy. I'll agree to a point, but also think the people asking the questions are making themselves public figures and should be subject to the same scrutiny. How many questions about affairs would come from the press if all the reporters and their editors had to answer any questions put to them about their own affairs? Songwornger, in order for you to question our politicians on these matters, you need to post the complete details of your own life. Where were you born? Were your parents married? Did they have sex before they were married? Have you ever had an extra-marital affair? What were your grades in high school? Were you ever reprimanded for anything? Have you ever been arrested? Have you ever used illegal drugs? Are you married? What's your favorite sexual position? What's your address and phone number? Please give us the names off all your junior high school classmates so we can find out what sort of person you are now. Actually, I don't think you really exist, since I've never seen your birth certificate. For all I know, you are a foreign spy who is trying to undermine the trust of the American people. Yes, I'm sure that's the answer. It makes perfect sense! Why else you you be saying these things? Iran! Of course. It all becomes clear now. Songwronger is an Iranian spy. The evidence is conclusive. He's trying to overthrow the government of the United States!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Richard Bridge Date: 31 Jan 12 - 11:04 AM Thank you for that clarification Wesley. Songwronger, you have now been made to look foolish and ill-informed and should withdraw. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Little Hawk Date: 31 Jan 12 - 03:27 PM Right! It's disgusting how the press is prying into everyone's private life whenever they run for office or become "newsworthy". Consider, for example, the many scurrilous rumors that have been spread on this forum by paid undercover agents of the Big Two parties regarding Chongo's... place of birth sexual procilivities extra-marital affaires supposed abandonment of mother and sister alcoholism supposed episodes of poopflinging supposed episodes of violence use of bad language lack of footwear lack of personal hygeine People who stoop to those sort of destructive tactics to damage a public figure should, as John P has suggested, be made to publicly answer ALL the same questions about THEIR private life! Thus would the hypocrites be revealed in the light of day...assuming they chose to go that route. (I'm betting they would just shut up and go away.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: John P Date: 31 Jan 12 - 04:07 PM LH, I'll go along with all of that except the poop flinging! If Chongo is flinging poop, I think we all need to know! How could we possibly have a poop flinger for president?? I know, I know, everyone has done it at one time or another, but everyone isn't running for president! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Greg F. Date: 31 Jan 12 - 04:21 PM How could we possibly have a poop flinger for president?? Guess you ain't been watching the Republican debates or their TV ads, eh? Some Olympic-quality poop flinging going on there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Little Hawk Date: 31 Jan 12 - 04:25 PM Agreed, John! But Chongo does NOT fling poop! He may have flung poop when he was a very young ape, but he gave up those kind of wild habits when he joined civilization and started wearing clothes and that sort of thing. His role models are Humphrey Bogart and Philip Marlowe. It's absolutely unconscionable for anyone nowadays to accuse Chongo Chimp of engaging in poopflinging. Now if he were a Republican!....then I could understand it. Look at what they're doing in their silly damn primaries, for gosh sakes! But he is not a Republican. Far from it. He wouldn't join the Republican Party for all the bananas in Costa Rica. (though he might be severely tempted...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Don Firth Date: 31 Jan 12 - 05:14 PM Republican Party def: A circular firing squad. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Bobert Date: 31 Jan 12 - 05:26 PM No, Chongz hasn't outgrown poo-flingin'... When he was in charge of security during my brief run for president in '08 he indeed was still very much into the sport... BTW, it is Monkey Nation's nationa sport so I guess it is to be expected... As is Chongz' denial... He's alot like Romney and will say anything to get a vote... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Little Hawk Date: 31 Jan 12 - 05:46 PM Sure, Bobert, sure... How much did they pay you to say that? Hmmmm? You on commission now or regular salary? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 31 Jan 12 - 07:01 PM Where'd I leave off? John P -- "willful ignorance." I agree, but you have it backward. You're projecting. Don F -- "You're trying to ressurect a lot of garbage that couldn't get traction with anyone but a bunch of Right-Wing bigots when it was first trotted out, and has long since been debunked. Many times." Debunked by whom? Where are the documents that would establish Obama's true timeline? Oh, that's right, they're sealed. Wesley S -- "'Obama's first act as president was to seal all his records. Birth records, school records, everything.' Would it be too much to ask for a shred of proof for this allegation? From a reputable news source? And no - a birther website doesn't count." Well, you can read his first Executive Order for yourself and see how Obama accomplished this. The news media widely reported at the time that E.O. 13489 created a new "transparency" in records pertaining to the presidency, but it did just the opposite. It invested the president and the attorney general with the power to keep any presidential information they want sealed. The E.O. reads: "(d) If the President decides to invoke executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order." It also says, "Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of executive privilege is justified. (b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be notified promptly of any such determination." And yes, the E.O. places (b) before (a). What all this adds up to is even more power for the president to seal records, yet you've been told it's "transparency." And of course, Obama and Holder have used the E.O. to bury Obama's records. It also conveniently keeps George W. Bush's records out of the public eye. Wesley S again -- Some argument in defense of Mitt Romney's citizenship. Mitt Romney's father was born in Mexico. Under Mexican law, Mitt Romney can apply for and receive Mexican citizenship any time he wants, based on the circumstance of his father's birth. Wesley S again -- A link to an article about Obama's first executive order, which Wesley S obviously didn't read. The link is to "usgovinfo." Yeah, you'll get unbiased information there. Little Hawk -- The monkey stuff. I missed the opening to this. John P again -- Says a politician's private life is off limits. I beg to differ. Anyone who wants to take control of the U.S. nuclear arsenal has to put his or her life on public display. Richard Bridge -- wants the subject closed. I don't blame him. Discussion degenerates into monkey talk and poop slinging. The Chongo stuff makes more sense than any of the other. Obama's hiding of his records is important. George W. Bush was an alcoholic with perhaps as many as seven DWIs, and he should never have been allowed near the presidency. But the news media helped elevate him, and look at the mess he left. Now we have another unknown in the office. Doesn't bode well. I hope some of the states succeed in keeping Obama off the ballot, force a re-examination of what it means to be an American. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: GUEST,Wesley S Date: 31 Jan 12 - 07:13 PM Name one good reason why a man running for president would apply for Mexican citizenship. Please. What possible interest would Romney have to do that? Just because he can don't mean he would. I notice you didn't like my link about the Presidents first executive order. I'm not surprised - the Tri-Lateral Commission didn't write it. But you still haven't provided a link to your claims. Don't have one that will stand up to scrutiny? Put up or shut up. You're just yanking our chains. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Bobert Date: 31 Jan 12 - 07:14 PM Monkey talk is a lot more intellectually honest than ***trying*** to have any logical discussion with a completely delusional person... Face it, wrong-man... You need serious mental health counseling and/or medication... This observation isn't about politics... It's about mental illness... BTW, I understand mental illness... During my many years in adult services and a social worker the majority of my clients came straight from Central State (Mental) Hospital in Petersburg, Va.... This isn't meant to be judgmental... Just observation... You need help... Square business... You need help... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: GUEST,Wesley S Date: 31 Jan 12 - 07:21 PM One last thing. PLEASE don't start looking into the way we faked the moon landing. We've been able to pull the wool over the worlds eyes for decades on that one. But with an insightful person like you on the case our cover will be blown. The TRUTH is out there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 31 Jan 12 - 08:13 PM ""...but NOW some right-wing nuts want to disqualify a sitting president...."" RIGHT WINGNUTS is just about right, and when Songwronger chose that name he joined the ranks of those. Let's hope he is saner in his musical endeavours. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Songwronger Date: 31 Jan 12 - 08:18 PM There is the executive order for you to read, Mr. S. Read it yourself. It gives the power to permit viewing of records to the president and attorney general. Obama gave himself the power to police the records. Read the wording of the E.O. You shouldn't have to have it explained to you. jeez I've noticed over the years that people often gravitate to fields that help fill a need in their lives. I'm glad that you got 18 years of vicarious mental health treatment, Bobert. I'm sure it did you a world of good. Hate to imagine what you were like before. But if you're so into the treatment of mental health problems, why do you call people crazy? That would be like a civil rights activist calling someone a nigger, wouldn't it? Both are pretty unkind words. There is nothing "crazy" about questioning the origins of a man who's sealed his records from public view. It would be odd NOT to question. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 31 Jan 12 - 09:13 PM ""There is nothing "crazy" about questioning the origins of a man who's sealed his records from public view. It would be odd NOT to question."" If that statement bore any relationship to the true course of events revealed by that executive order, you might have cause to question. However, there is an enormous gap between having the authority to carry out a permitted action and actually carrying out that action. Thus far you have signally failed to produce any evidence for your claim that Obama sealed those records, merely showing that it would have been possible. Well, it would have been possible for your parents to have produced offspring with the capacity to think for themselves, but there is little evidence to suggest that they did. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Obama denied place on Alabama ballot From: Bobert Date: 31 Jan 12 - 09:40 PM Ya ever heard of a show called MASH, wrong-man... After one has been in the pits longs enough punch drunkness sets in...Social worker, when they are together, talk like this... Okay, some will deny it but it kinda goes with the territory... I've also used the term "nigga" here... Prior to going into social work I was a jail house GED teacher in the Richmond City Jail and black inmates called me "nigga" just as they called each other, "nigga"... No big deal... Again, you wouldn't begin to understand what I am talking about here... You really don't understand too much, wrong-man... I haven't lived "vicariously" thru anyone... I have been in the trenches... I don't need to blow smoke and strain to make arguments... They are all right here within me from my own life... My life's experiences are why I can tell you that you need treatment for your mental health problems... You are not healthy... You need help, wrongman... This ain't about politic... This is about your delusional thinking... Ain't my problem... It's yours... Get some help, man... Serious business... B~ |
