BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch

Subject: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 11:28 AM

There is a silly show on TV called Finding Bigfoot. I kinda get a kick out of it. Now I have spent my life in the woods. Still don't know if they exist as I never saw one. I have however, had rocks thrown at me of a size and distance that no human could throw. Heard howls, tree knocking and even found a partial print. But I never saw one, never found bones or any other sign. Does Bigfoot exist. Scientist such as Jane Goodall says it is a possibility. Some other noted scientists say yes because of the tracks they examined. Other says no way ..

any encounters my friends? What do you think

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 11:52 AM

Check with the Hendersons OK.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 12:11 PM

You might be interested in this thread above the line that has coincidentally come up: clicky, about a Canadian mummer's play involving Sasquatch (and squid).

~ Becky in Long Beach

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 12:15 PM

One named Hairy there Dave :-)

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 12:29 PM

I think Bigfoot is the result of mating between horny human trappers and grizzly bear sows. You don't think they called those Jeremiah Johnson types "mountin' men" for no reason, do ya?

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 01:06 PM

could be, could be ... never thought of that.
Actually some scientist say it could be a decent of
Gigantopithecus

I guess it really did live several thousand years ago ...

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 02:54 PM

I got a cousin that's a big hairy ape, especially when he's on the rye.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 02:58 PM

whadda I think? I think there would have to be a breeding population for something that big to survive...or else there's ONE immortal bigfoot, running back & forth across the country and teasing us.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 02:59 PM

LOL ... ok guys I am being serious :-) have ya ever seen a bigfoot other than one of those basketball player guys with the size 16 foot

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 03:06 PM

I'm from the Pacific Northwest, where there are many, many tales of the Sasquatch. One I find particularly believable involved a friend of mine: He was driving his son and friends to a boy scout camp in the Oregon wilderness one night when his headlights showed a tall (very), broad (very) person?,covered in dark hair, just crossing the road as my friend's car came around the curve.

He said that with two or three steps the 'being' was across the road and had disappeared into the woods alongside.

His pre-teen passengers were agog demanding to know what that was. He had no answer except that he knew it was no bear.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 03:23 PM

It seems like a reasonable possibility that there is such a creature, given the number of incidents that have occurred. If there is....then they are darned lucky that their existence has not been officially confirmed by the mass media and the science community. If it had, they'd never have a moment's peace again.

Your story about the thrown rocks is pretty interesting, Dan. That must have been frightening.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 03:43 PM

It's possible. Fact is, if the Sasquatch does exist in the deep woods, encounters will be rare. Imagine a bipedal beast with intelligence, physical prowess, knowledge of the area and trees to hide behind. Footyprints are about all that might be found and those would be rare in the Boreal Forest given the fact that the Sasquatch is also know as BIG FOOT. Think about it, big foot, little imPRINT.

Given your skills in wilderness survival and tracking, Dan, I suggest you investigate the existence of the Sasquatch yourself BUT, with those big feet in mind. As I said, finding tracks made by a Sasquatch is extremely difficult so I think you should focus on big shit. I mean, if these guys are nine feet tall, they must shit a big log. Think DNA testing, eh? That would narrow the search areas. And, you could fund this by getting donations for your research on the internut. Yer a supergeek... start a website called thebiglogproject.dan. And get it on that twit thing and that in yer face thing and get rednecks what cruise tha woods ta send ya shit from all over. Don't that sound like a plan, Dan?

As fer yer actual question... I ain't never seen one when I was sober.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 05:39 PM

I gotta admit, I am normally not afraid of much of anything ... well except jell-o , But when a rock the size of a big brick goes sailing through the top of the trees and lands 20 ft from me. I start to wonder what the heck could do that .. I mean a human would have needed a catapult .. The growling howl that was no coyote got me thinking also with the tree being wacked ... If he does exist, I don't want to mess with him

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 06:47 PM

I carry a Baikal 12 o/u full over moditied every time I go into the woods even tho I gave up hunting years ago so I ain't scared a no big feet until they are armed too. Then, I'll carry the 270.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 10:12 PM

Yea but when that happened I was doing my survival stuff, way out in the woods with only a knife ... made a debris shelter, getting my own fire and water scrounging up stuff to eat... so all I could do is poke him before he ripped my arms off :-)

Now if I had been packing my .44 mag ... I would have felt a wee bit better

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 11:18 PM

Years ago I was on vacation and I thought about suggesting to the brother that I frequently went camping with that we go explore a region that had recently been in the news.

Then it occurred to me: Why would I want to meet with beings BIGGER, STRONGER and DUMBER than I?

I didn't make a peep.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 12:50 AM

I had a horrible month one week in NYC. I know Sasquatch exist because I spoke with one walking east on W 7 St at 3:28 AM. The bars had closed with my help, and thar she blew. I forget the rest.

PS It might have been a lady wearin' a muskrat coat; it was before Greenpeace and Reagan.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 02:04 AM

Ah. Crabs?


:)

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 04:39 AM

Lots of them in Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire or as the locals call them, hippies.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 04:58 AM

"Why would I want to meet with beings BIGGER, STRONGER and DUMBER than I?"

Apparently a fair enough number of females of our own kind think that's a perfect description of "husband material," although it seems they usually end up settling for a little less.

There has to be a reason why bikers and truckers find mates, some times(?).

John

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 08:01 AM

There is a rumour, surely untrue, that one was elected as a leader in that dismal dark forest of Toronto.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 08:24 AM

Thank you making me laugh ... priceless

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Stu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 10:15 AM

You can be sure though if someone does bump into one, the pillock will shoot and kill it. It's the human way.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 11:51 AM

Yes, and that's exactly why they do NOT want their existence confirmed by the media and the science community.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 12:13 PM

Olddude, you say you "had rocks thrown at me of a size and distance that no human could throw."

Are you sure there wasn't a scarp, bluff or cliff out of sight in those woods? Suppose a mass of weathered rock fell off the top and hit the talus pile below. Bigger chunks split into pieces, flying through the woods in unpredictable trajectories. That would explain it.

Either that it is was a susquatch that viewed you as an enemy because you weren't wearing Birkenstocks. Next time you go in the deep woods, wear Birkenstocks.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 12:31 PM

Leeneia
No honey, nothing like that, the rock thrown at me sailed over top the trees and came crashing down ... big bugger. I found the rock, first I thought a meteorite ... no kidding. then the tree knocking and howls .. got me going for sure. Next day in the creek some partial toe prints like human but huge huge .. I am not saying I believe it exists but something did it. remember my thread on gonna find bigfoot .. well I did I think. And no I would never hurt anything unless I was attacked and from what i read, that doesn't happen .. Even with bears I can scare them away without harming anything.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 12:48 PM

by the way, I never told another person where this happened, would never take a photo, nor would I ever cast a footprint. If it does exist it just wants to be left alone. The native Americans hold it sacred as the old man of the woods. Don't know now what I believe but the last thing I want is 1000 Pennsylvania bubba's with high powered rifles looking for action. I went out without any gadgets, I was going to bring a flir heat camera and night vision but anything including weapons I felt was a threat. A guy in a stick and leaf hut with nothing else is probably just a minor trespasser. For me I want to see one for my own curious reasons ... maybe this summer I will find him.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 01:16 PM

Tell him I want my ten bucks back.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 01:29 PM

or your beef jerky like on that TV commercial messing with sasquatch. Wanna go GNU, I trust ya. I promise you won't have to eat bugs

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 01:32 PM

Shane has always feared a possible encounter with Bigfoot. He tends to avoid traipsing around in deep forest areas for that reason. He has heard that strong body odor can attract the creature.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 01:38 PM

Question, Dan; who knew you were out in that area? And how much "tech" does it take to launch a rock with a lot more "oomph" than arm-power? I would love to think you really came that close to a sighting of one of the big guys, though.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 01:45 PM

Question: How much premise or vaguest possibility of misinterpretation does it take to attract a skeptic?

Answer: Virtually NONE at ALL!!! ;-D They are drawn as flies to roadkill.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 01:55 PM

Ya know, Dan. Them there backwoods grow-ops use some odd tactics. AND booby-traps.

If you go out in the woods today,
You'd better not go alone.
It's lovely out in the woods today,
But safer to stay at home.

'specially up kent County. Did I ever tell ya about "Camp Charcoal"?

froggy... ask Goliath. David put his ass in a sling eh?

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: frogprince
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 01:59 PM

L.H.,I guess it's true that I'm too skeptical to say that Dan has conclusive proof now. I know there are a lot of intriguing "encounters" on record, and I know there has been some hoaxing. And I don't mean that I take Dan for anybody's fool. If I'm a skeptic on this, I'm not a confirmed one, and I'm a skeptic who would love to see one of 'em. (And, like Dan, not publish the location).

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 02:07 PM

I am also my friend,   still need to see one, I only had some strange events happen but that is no proof at all ,.. to answer you question GNU nobody knew it. That area is so far out, swamp, bugs, briars .. it is a hell of a place to venture into .. But you know me, I like that kinda stuff. My family has a stroke anymore when I do that stuff since my minor heart issue. I get you are going to die yada yada ..
I go out alone .. and I go way back ... my family knows where to look but I doh't tell anyone else. there were no humans there. Too hard to get back in that place and it is a hell of a place to go to start with, but if bigfoot exists .. that would be the place with all the game there, Hunters don't go there, if you got a deer you would never get it out ...

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 02:12 PM

like all of you I am still very skeptical but intrigued, would love to see it .. then I would say for sure as far as I am concerned. All I have now is some things with all my training and skills, I can't explain as of yet.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 02:18 PM

You meant, "as of yeti", no?

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 02:24 PM

What is really cool is listening to the animals. The woods at night is a very noisy place. Owls, crickets, elk ... bobcats .. lots of noise. When you hear the strange howls and tree knocking ... dead silence .. I MEAN even the mosquitoes don't buzz .. like they are all scared to death. I need to find out what it is explainable or now ... now I am intrigued

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Bob the Postman
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 03:36 PM

Shane fears a sasquatch encounter? Bullshit. Shane IS a sasquatch. Big. Ugly, make that "rugged". Beer. Chick. Gotta be Shane.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 03:49 PM

And grabbin her ass.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 04:05 PM

Dan... ya ever hear porcupines doin it? Goes on and on with about five minutes in between... 5 on, 5 off. Drive ya nuts.

The worst "noise" ever was the Whipoorwill. SOB would sit in the trees 40' away from my camp and Whipoorwill for hours. One night, I was a little sad about being woken up by Bro with open cylinder nd skeet 9 but I slept better after that.

Hehehe... one night, I woke up to heavy "sniffing". A black bear had his nose pressed hard against a window screen of my trailer about 1.5' above my head. I backhanded him with a closed fist and he let out a howl and ran off... I'd guess about twenty yards. Then he started to growl and scuff the leaves. I got up, stood in the doorway and let out a "man call" (very loud, low voice F U!!!). He made tracks. Next weekend, claw marks on the door. I tracked him to his sleeping tree and pissed on it while he watched me. No more problems with that one.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 05:22 PM

There's no particular reason to be skeptical about something like the Sasquatch. To be skeptical is to take a faith-based position ("It just can't be true!")

To insist that there are Sasquatch would be the opposite faith-based position (unless you've actually seen one, in which case you'd have every right to insist that they DO exist).

Either the determined skeptic or the determined promoter of something unusual (who hasn't actually seen it) are taking a faith-based position, one backed up by their emotional need to either believe...or not believe...in something unusual.

In either case, that's operating on faith and prejudice, not on reason.

A reasonable person simply takes the position that:

1. he doesn't know for sure about that

and

2. he'd be interested in any further information he could get about it

Rather than adopting a position based on an established emotional prejudice (for or against), he is willing to simply consider it as a possibility and await further evidence that may come forward. He might consider it on a scale of probabilities, but he doesn't have an emotional stake in insisting that it IS so or ISN'T so.

I'm not a skeptic. Neither am I a true believer who, without direct experience, insists that there MUST BE Sasquatches out there.

I find Dan's story quite intriguing, though, because I've known Dan long enough to trust that he has good powers of observation and judgement. Thus, his story raises interesting possibilities. It suggests some likelihood that he may have had a near encounter with an unusual wild animal of some kind...one that would try to avoid contact with human beings, and would be disturbed by humans entering its area. That might be what is termed Bigfoot. It might be something else. I have no way of knowing for sure. Nor does Dan...but he will form his own conclusion as to what seems most likely, given his own firsthand experience.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 05:40 PM

Well said, LH.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 06:17 PM

Very well said indeed. I had somethings that were very much out of the ordinary happen to me given my many years in the bush ... I will keep trying until I can figure it out ... maybe just maybe I will get a look at something that will completely astonish me and that would be wonderful actually.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,Sasquatch
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 06:47 PM

They say there no me, but me exist. Now I have laptop and 4G can get internet access even in Trinity Wilderness. I surf net for me, find this posting, so make my own posting I exist. You come Trinity, south fork Salmon River, bring case Spam in can, case Green Death beer, big package Oreo cookie. I let you take picture, you be famous!

Your good friend,

Me-Creature.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 06:51 PM

LOL priceless ... ok I will bring the beer and cookies

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 07:00 PM

Hi, Sasquatch. What a coincidence! I was just thinking that Oreos would be good to take into the woods when searching for you.

I have done some wildlife watching. For example, last year we went to south Florida and saw 65 kinds of wild creature.

If you want to visit Sasquatch, people, my advice is - Don't look like a hunter. Don't wear camo or woodman-type clothes. Don't wear boots. Slouch, relax, amble, sing softly. Better yet, stay inside your car.

Scientists often wear the same stuff when in the woods. Bad mistake! Animals can't distinguish a hunter from an observer when they're wearing the same kind of clothes and carrying similar shiny black objects.

More than once we have had a truce with a bunch of birds, only to have them take off in a panic when the telescope came out. We pointed a shiny, black thing at them - what did we expect?

Olddude, if you want to return to the secret spot and socialize with a Sasquatch, here's my advice. Wear a pink shirt and carry a picnic hamper. If you can take along a lady wearing a blue summer dress and go through the woods holding her hand, do it. Speak in kind, gentle tones. In other words, act the opposite of a predator.

Be sure to include Oreos. I would have thought Nutter Butters, but apparently Oreos are what he wants.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: gnu
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 07:06 PM

I too have seen some amazing things that I am sure VERY few prople have seen... I have been in woods where no human has ever been. Like you, I alawys went as far back as I could. If I could spend my days without seeing another human, they were good days. I fed carrots to a bull moose that weighed at leat a thousand pounds. I have played with cock birch partridge who wanted to fight me. I could tell stories for hours.

But, the most amazing thing I ever witnessed was silence. A crisp fall eve, an hour before dark. Not a strip of wind. Absolute silence. I could hear and feel the faint thumps of earthquakes but nothing else. So quiet, I would faintly snap my fingers near my ears to break the silence. I never felt so peaceful or so in awe.

I experienced the same silence on full moons on cold fall nights. I would stay up all night and cruise the woods. It's different. It's magical on a moonlit night.

Brings a tear to my eye. I miss those days... and nights.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 07:18 PM

Gnu well grab a pack of oreo's and join me .. I will take ya some places that you won't believe especially if ya want to go to the high rockies and fish at my kids weekend cabin ..

wanna go also Leeneia? I don't look good in a blue dress :-) but you do.

Subject: RE: BS: finding Bigfoot or Sasquatch
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 22 Mar 12 - 07:24 PM

birds are amazing, they are the wiener dogs of the woods. They tell everything an intruder is coming around. Especially a dang bluejay that thing will yell like my wiener dog barking at the mailman. When I was a hunter I hunted with my ears. Just listening to other critters you can tell what is going on around you.