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Subject: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,TIA Date: 08 Jun 12 - 12:13 AM "There are a LOT of people who just plain don't like him [Obama] because of his performance as President..." Please go to June of 2008 (well before the election), and see if the author of this quote was judging "performance as President", or spewing (pre-President) hate. And then disengage from troll lunatics like Cecil and landing. I am betting this thread lasts for about 2 minutes. Fair enough. But that is why I come here ever less frequently. The insane trolls have spoiled it...no, one particular insane troll. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,TIA Date: 08 Jun 12 - 12:14 AM fat fingers lansing |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: akenaton Date: 08 Jun 12 - 02:14 AM I think the reason you come here less frequently, is because it is no longer a "liberal" sandpit. Discussions on many subjects have become more open and objective during the last few years......Excellent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jun 12 - 02:23 AM Akenaton: "I think the reason you come here less frequently, is because it is no longer a "liberal" sandpit." They turned the sandpit into a bunch of kitty litter cat-box! Hey, BTW Akenaton great to see you on, again!!! How's the Missus? ...heard she was/is ill. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,999 Date: 08 Jun 12 - 08:05 AM Ake, I messaged you weeks ago on Mudcat. I never received an answer. FYI. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jun 12 - 11:45 AM ...and warmest regards to you, Bruce!..you ol' 'Pepsi'!! (I think that's how you Cannucks spell it...unless, it's Pepsy..or even Pepsie, or Pepsey....jeez, I only HEARD it when I was up there!). GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,999 Date: 08 Jun 12 - 11:54 AM Yo, M. That must have been years (decades) ago. You are not then aware that over the years the term Pepsi has come to be seen as pejorative. It was a slang expression for someone who was French. Good way to encounter beaucoup trouble in La Belle Province. I think it came from the observation that a few French Canadians had a Pepsi and a Mae West for breakfast. (Although I was English, I too often had that for breakfast.) Trust things are well, M. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Jim Dixon Date: 08 Jun 12 - 05:11 PM Your thread title reminds me of this cartoon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: ollaimh Date: 08 Jun 12 - 07:12 PM canadian french for some reason drink more pepsi than coke. however the term is considered an insult by most francophones, just a rsther out dated insult.young people would probably not even known what you're talking about |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: ollaimh Date: 08 Jun 12 - 07:15 PM and yes the delusional right wingnuts are here on mudcat to make sure the whole world goes broke and all culture is destroyed by their untenable policies. they won;t satidfied untill the whole economy is in ruoins for decades and most of north america is a toxic waste land. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: MarkS Date: 08 Jun 12 - 10:04 PM But what would be the reason anybody would want to do that? This is an example of the type of hyperbolic claims which do not make the listner/reader want to take the claiment seriously. You cannot persuade anybody to come around to your point of view if they think you are just silly! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Amos Date: 08 Jun 12 - 10:56 PM I thibk it is true that for SOME people, the great enthusiasm for Obama kind of evaporated as a result of soe of his less popular decisions. I also think that the unending spew of vindictive distortions from the Norquist constellation has alienated some folks. But I thinkm further, that anyone who tries to take a measured assessment of what he has accomplished--and the amount of negative countereffport levied against him by Congress--would conclude that he has done pretty darn well. Over six million people today are insured for health care because of his action, in spite of right-wing obstreperous obloquy. A lot of troops are home and safe--on both sides--because he wound down the Iraq operation. There are dozens of other positive accomplishments, great and small, that don't get widely acknowledged. The recession isn't over yet, and could use a much bigger kick in the pants than Congress is going to allow to happen. But I, for one, am for voting him back in. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 08 Jun 12 - 11:06 PM Thanks, Bruce!..I really never knew, or had any idea why they were called that. Looks to see if the coast is clear...looks to the right..then to the left...ducks down, and makes a quick escape! Regards!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Ebbie Date: 09 Jun 12 - 02:50 AM I've been wanting to post this. The article at the link has a lot more, both pro and con. http://juneauempire.com/opinion/2012-03-23/pro-liberals-must-stand-president#.T2yRfdVKHE0 "(President) Obama abolished the United States' use of torture and the CIA's secret prisons. He restored the liberal internationalist approach to foreign policy and made a historic outreach to the Muslim world. He stabilized an economy that was spiraling into a depression. He expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit and made major investments in job training, education, infrastructure, clean energy, housing and scientific research. He saved the automobile industry. "He forced the health insurance companies to stop excluding people with preexisting conditions and to stop dropping people when they got sick. He made an enormous and historic gain toward universal health care. He signed a financial reform bill that established a consumer protection agency and put most derivative trading on an open exchange under the regulatory umbrella. "He ended the war in Iraq exactly as he promised. He ended "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." He blocked Republicans from eliminating federal funding for Planned Parenthood. He suspended deportation proceedings against illegal immigrants lacking a criminal record. He has supported family unity in immigration policy. He stood up to the oil lobby on the Keystone XL pipeline. And he has represented the United States with consummate dignity. "Somehow, all of this is routinely discounted or forgotten. If Obama does not win a second term, a Republican administration will savage Medicare and Medicaid, enact yet another massive tax cut for the 1 percent, and try to privatize Social Security. Obama, for all his shortcomings, is still indispensable to the cause of ending the Reagan era, and of preventing something even worse than the administration he succeeded." • Dorrien is Reinhold Niebuhr Professor of Social Ethics at Union Theological Seminary and professor of religion at Columbia University. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: bobad Date: 09 Jun 12 - 06:40 AM Re Pepsi as slang for French Quebecers: According to the Canadian Oxford Dictionary tell the epithet "pepsi" derives from the belief, first held by Quebec anglos in the late forties, that their French-speaking counterparts swilled Pepsi because they were too poor to afford Coke (which was marginally more expensive). While Pepsi's early marketing did promote itself as the more economical alternative—"Twice as much for a nickel, too / Pepsi-Cola is the drink for you"—impecunious Québécois of yore were probably imbibing Kik, which was the cheapest postwar cola available. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: goatfell Date: 09 Jun 12 - 07:29 AM I like him (obama) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Bobert Date: 09 Jun 12 - 08:09 AM I think given the extreme and unprecedented - at least that seen in my life time - obstructionism Obama has won as much as there was to be won... What worries/concerns me is that the conservative media has joined the radical right in squeezing every ounce of negativity they can to distort the facts... If we had a return of the "Fairness Doctrine" (including equal time to counter the anonymous Citizens ambushers) that Obama wouldn't have to scramble to win in November but, face it, he isn't getting what Bill Clinton calls "microphone time" sufficient to beat back the vast $$$$ advantage that the Repubs have... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Jack the Sailor Date: 09 Jun 12 - 10:26 AM I can't help but note the rudeness of the subject changers here and the approach of what Amos calls the "Norquist constellation." In a society that protects "free speech" it is the speech that is paid for that gets heard. Obviously tap water and fresh vegetables are way better for the individual, the society and the economy in the long run than Pepsi (or coke or gatorade) and Joe Louis (or Little Debbie or Hostess) But what gets the marketing money? What gets the constant repetition. The reason that Obama's message is not getting out there is that everyone profits a little but no one gains a lot. Likewise people behave like assholes on this threads because it benefits their huge but fragile egos even though it decreases the overall level of conversation on the forum. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Bobert Date: 09 Jun 12 - 10:30 AM Here's the rest of the story on Coke, et al... It's making people sick and costing our economy hundreds of billion$$$ a year in loss of production and medical expenses... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,TIA Date: 15 Jun 12 - 01:41 AM Just for the record: xkcd is brilliant on all levels. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Big Al Whittle Date: 15 Jun 12 - 04:04 AM General de Gaulle, Edith Piaf, Madame Sarkozy, Brigitte Bardot.... Le Pepsi Generation....! Obama's Irish. He's alright. Whereas Reagan....I bet his family were gippos. Nick the lead off the church roof when your back was turned. Don't let it go unchallenged in the future....more sort of unregarded. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Jun 12 - 04:04 PM GoofuS: "They [presumably lberal Mudcatters, but considering GoofuS's command of the language, it's sometimes hard to tell] turned the sandpit into a bunch of kitty litter cat-box!" WHO did!??? Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 15 Jun 12 - 04:42 PM Don Frothus.. Here kitty kitty kitty kitty...here kitty kitty kitty! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Don Firth Date: 15 Jun 12 - 05:33 PM YOU may think so, GoofuS, but that's only because some of us keep asking you to answer questions. But you don't have any answers. I'm quite sure that makes you feel uncomfortable, hence your hostility. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: GUEST,999 Date: 16 Jun 12 - 12:10 PM Dang. I thought I'd thanked you for the history, bobad. Sorry. I hereby do so. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 16 Jun 12 - 01:50 PM Posters GoofuS and Frothus- please use the PM section of Mudcat. TIA opened this thread and invited all the "trolls" (ninnyhammers) to join in. They did. Thanks, bobad, for the digression. Took me back in memory lane. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jun 12 - 02:17 PM I would, Q, but GfS won't join Mudcat (note "GUEST"), and therefore, can neither send nor receive PMs. It's another way of hiding behind anonymity and sniping from the undergrowth. Don FIRTH (Scottish place name) P. S. "Frothus?" I thought you were above such things, Q. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can't let this go unchallenged... From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 16 Jun 12 - 02:48 PM Sorry Fro- er, Don. Wasn't meant to 'diss' you, to use a current term. I don't think you started the slanging match. |
