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BS: OCDTrolls...

Bobert 19 Jun 12 - 09:26 PM
Little Hawk 19 Jun 12 - 09:30 PM
Jack the Sailor 19 Jun 12 - 09:37 PM
Little Hawk 19 Jun 12 - 09:40 PM
Bobert 19 Jun 12 - 09:42 PM
Rapparee 19 Jun 12 - 10:03 PM
Bobert 19 Jun 12 - 10:07 PM
Janie 19 Jun 12 - 10:15 PM
Bobert 19 Jun 12 - 10:34 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 19 Jun 12 - 11:27 PM
Bobert 19 Jun 12 - 11:30 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jun 12 - 12:57 AM
Megan L 20 Jun 12 - 03:53 AM
John MacKenzie 20 Jun 12 - 04:40 AM
Ebbie 20 Jun 12 - 04:58 AM
Jack Campin 20 Jun 12 - 06:02 AM
Jeri 20 Jun 12 - 06:34 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jun 12 - 08:05 AM
John MacKenzie 20 Jun 12 - 08:25 AM
Megan L 20 Jun 12 - 09:03 AM
Bobert 20 Jun 12 - 09:24 AM
GUEST,saulgoldie 20 Jun 12 - 09:26 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jun 12 - 10:41 AM
GUEST,leeneia 20 Jun 12 - 10:53 AM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jun 12 - 10:57 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jun 12 - 11:15 AM
beardedbruce 20 Jun 12 - 11:44 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jun 12 - 01:28 PM
Jack Campin 20 Jun 12 - 01:57 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jun 12 - 02:08 PM
John MacKenzie 20 Jun 12 - 03:23 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 20 Jun 12 - 03:26 PM
Don Firth 20 Jun 12 - 03:39 PM
DougR 20 Jun 12 - 04:00 PM
beardedbruce 20 Jun 12 - 04:23 PM
Jack the Sailor 20 Jun 12 - 05:02 PM
Bobert 20 Jun 12 - 05:08 PM
beardedbruce 21 Jun 12 - 10:03 AM
beardedbruce 21 Jun 12 - 10:12 AM
GUEST,saulgoldie 21 Jun 12 - 11:43 AM
Bobert 21 Jun 12 - 11:55 AM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jun 12 - 12:20 PM
Stilly River Sage 21 Jun 12 - 12:43 PM
Bobert 21 Jun 12 - 01:26 PM
Richard Bridge 21 Jun 12 - 05:45 PM
Jack the Sailor 21 Jun 12 - 10:50 PM
beardedbruce 22 Jun 12 - 08:23 AM
Greg F. 22 Jun 12 - 11:24 AM
Jack Campin 22 Jun 12 - 11:54 AM
GUEST,Punkfolkrocker 22 Jun 12 - 12:05 PM
Jack the Sailor 22 Jun 12 - 12:09 PM
Jack the Sailor 22 Jun 12 - 12:10 PM
Greg F. 22 Jun 12 - 12:13 PM
Greg F. 22 Jun 12 - 12:25 PM
beardedbruce 22 Jun 12 - 12:36 PM
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Subject: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:26 PM

Seems that I have collected a troll with "Obsessive Compulsive Disorder"...

Said troll has stalked me for years not only here at Mudact but at least one other website...

I am doing a fine job of ignoring the OBD Troll but what begs the larger question... How should sites like Mudcat deal with posters who are obviously mentally ill???

Just musing...

(Yes, I know that my OCD Troll will feel empowered by me bringing this up but, hey...)

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:30 PM

That is no way to talk about a self-respecting chimpanzee who has done much good service for his community over the years and has had to fight his way past endemic specism to get where he is today. You owe Chongo a heartfelt apology.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:37 PM

Little Hawk, are you mocking Chongo or is Chongo mocking you?


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:40 PM

Sometimes it gets hard to tell, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 09:42 PM

Chongz is like my brother compared to my OCD Troll...

I mean, me and Chongz have a personal history... Wasn't purdy but up front and personal...

No matter... Back to the discussion...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Rapparee
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 10:03 PM

It ain't me, Bobert. No, no, no it ain't me, Bobert. It ain't me you're lookin' for, Bobert.

Tell the mudelves to watch. Also tell the mods on the other forum.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 10:07 PM

Sheet fire, Rap... I know it ain't you...

We all know exactly who it is but if I say his name then the thread gets taken down... But we all know who it is...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Janie
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 10:15 PM

Don't feed 'im, Bobert. Contact the administrators of said sites and let them deal with it - privately.

If you choose to keep feeding that person, then simply accept the ramifications and your part in the problem.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 10:34 PM

I have in the past, Janie...

They told me that there is nothing they can do... I told them that I could take it to the FBI and they all but told to "Go ahead 'cause we can't do anything about it"???

That's the long and short of it...

But the larger question here is about how Mudders go about dealing with stalkers and people who obviously have OCD disorders related to other members???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 11:27 PM

Well, if you must have a troll, having one with OCD isn't all bad. At least they know how to count, and they usually have very clean hands.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Jun 12 - 11:30 PM

They have clean hands, Beeze???

Depends... Maybe they OCD me and forget to wash after bathroom visits???

I donno???

Maybe my personal OCD Troll will enlighten the folks here on his hand washings???

But prolly not...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 12:57 AM

One man's 'troll' is another man's messenger...depends if you listen, or resist the message....The OCD could be in the eye of the beholder.

Just a thought....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Megan L
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 03:53 AM

That unfortunately is one problem with internet communication you cant see the subtle indicators of a persons mental state sometimes until it is to late.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 04:40 AM

Well I suppose you can only leave the site, or ignore the troll.
When you draw attention to people it often makes them nastier.
When I exposed somebody as a person who didn't respect confidences, they responded by spreading shit about me all over the place.
Then I realised when folks said they'd heard the shit, and didn't believe it, that it didn't matter.
So do what I did Bobz, feel secure in the company of friends, and pity the poor troll.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 04:58 AM

What John M said. It isn't easy to ignore someone who's in your face whichever way you turn but if you look right through him as if he weren't there you will get comfortable with it.

Somebody once quoted: A soft answer turneth away wrath- and besides it pisseth them off.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 06:02 AM

Is the harassment severe enough that the police would take action?

If so, and you know who the person is in real life, pass it on to them.

If you don't know who it is, the Mudcat admins probably do or can find out.

If it's not quite at the level where the criminal law can do anything, civil law may be able to, but not for free. And if you do know the real identity of whoever's getting at you, let the rest of us know. (I can think of two regular guest IDs who you might have in mind, but I don't know which or even if they're two different people).


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 06:34 AM

There's a reason you shouldn't feed trolls.

Whether or not they're trolls or MEAN to troll, when it goes back-and-forth, you're a troll too. You're a co-dependent co-troll. You're engaging in the behavior, you're part of the problem and a big reason why they keep going.

Sure, if you don't reply, they may keep going anyway, but only one of you is gonna look like a jerk to everybody else. You can sit back and take satisfaction in not being manipulated.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 08:05 AM

....and some people avoid an honest question, by calling them 'trolls'..
and then engage in acting like 'trolls'.

An honest exchange of ideas, in a group of supposedly creative people, is stifled, when certain ideologues, then go on a 'campaign', to do everything to discredit, the people who pose an honest challenge, as to why, those accusers are creating a bias, because, just like misery, ignorance loves company.

The root word of ignorance is 'ignore'......instead they just call names, and make accusations.

...and BTW, that's TRUE...just go back any number of places, scroll back, and look for yourselves.

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 08:25 AM

I would respectfully suggest, without malice, that to chose to post under a psuedonym which implies that the poster is sane and the rest of us are not, is somewhat provocative in itself.
As is the act of posting only as a guest.
Just an observation.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Megan L
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 09:03 AM

A man went to the zoo there on the front of the lions cage was a big sign "DO NOT FEED THE LIONS" He did and was eaten by them.

His brother came to find out what had happened he was passing the monky cage the sign read "DO NOT FEED THE MONKEYS" He did and they picked his pocket and stole his watch.

Their sister most returbed at their absence went to the zoo as she approached the elephants cage she saw the sign "DO NOT FEED THE ELEPHANTS" she did the elephant turned round and excused himself all over her.

And the moral of this tale? The signs are usually put up by people who understand the consequences.

"DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS"


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 09:24 AM

I've gotten real good at not reading my personal OCD Troll's post and skip over them... But in doing so, as I scroll down there is my name over and over and over... Having taken a speed-reading course it's impossible not to notice... But never mind that...

Here's the rest of the story...It is disruptive and disrespectful to the discussion at hand to have the class clown playing in the wrong key...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 09:26 AM

I have been suggesting for some time to just ignore them. As long as they are not doing you any actual harm, just ignore them until they find someone or somewhere else to go.

If they "take it to another level" beyond just posting here and there is some sort of legal action you can take, that is an option. You may not even need to go to trial. It is not uncommon for someone to back down once they receive a formal letter from an attorney or notice of a court filing.

As for the rest of us--I am confident that I speak for "most of us"--we know you and love you. And we, or at least I don't take any of that stuff seriously.

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 10:41 AM

Bobert: "I've gotten real good at not reading my personal OCD Troll's post and skip over them... But in doing so, as I scroll down there is my name over and over and over... Having taken a speed-reading course it's impossible not to notice... But never mind that..."

From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jun 12 - 07:10 PM
"p.s. If GfinS posts any good music, let me know..."

Then:

Subject: RE: BS: Can we afford Democracy?
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 09:44 PM

"Your's has worn me slap out, GfinS... I mean, slap the f'n out.."

Then, I post:

Subject: RE: BS: Can we afford Democracy?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 02:32 PM

Bobert and Don,....You wanted music????

You've heard me speak of this guy before....too often he was overlooked..but really a genius...this is from 1968...
Paul 'Biff' Rose.........a dearest friend!!! "
..along with may 6 more of his songs......

Then, you post:

Subject: RE: BS: Can we afford Democracy?
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 10:07 PM

"You post so much shit that, frankly, I just skip it... If you would just post what ideas you have and leave it at that with out a dozen posts with clickies then maybe you'd get responses... In other words, you are trying to shut down discussion with quantity...

Just tell us what the fuck you think... What are your ideas... I don't have time to read a bunch of BS right winged blogisphere crap... Heck, if I want to do that all I gotta do is Google up anything that is remotely political and the first 50 pages are filled with right winged BS...

Get off the quantity, GfInS, and get with the quality of what you have to say... That is, fir you ahve anything to say..."

Then, I post:

Subject: RE: BS: Can we afford Democracy?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 10:09 PM

"Well, you asked me to post music...I did...all those blue clickies are music....enjoy!

GfS

Short 'nuff?"

Then, you post:

Subject: RE: BS: Can we afford Democracy?
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 12 - 10:15 PM

Okay... I can do music...

My bad... I figured you were up to your usual shit so I just glossed over 'um..."

Now you post on this thread:
"Bobert: "I've gotten real good at not reading my personal OCD Troll's post and skip over them... But in doing so, as I scroll down there is my name over and over and over... Having taken a speed-reading course it's impossible not to notice... But never mind that..."

Maybe you just skip over a lot of stuff, that isn't the 'shit' you ASSUME it is.....and therefore, don't understand it....and then resort to calling people 'trolls'.

Ever consider that???

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 10:53 AM

I have accidentally discovered a way to stop an argumentive thread dead in its tracks. Post something (such as a MIDI or some chords) which imply that posters might actually get off their keesters, leave the computer, pick up an instrument and make some actual music. That thread will be dead. I've seen it happen again and again, and not just in the BS section.

Maybe if I composed a work where they blow on an empty soda bottle and drum on a used pizza box, it would be different...


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 10:57 AM

Has your Troll shown up on the thread yet Bobert? All I see are concerned catters and a poster I usually skip over.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 11:15 AM

Thank you, Jack the Sailor, this time you are correct in, "All I see are concerned catters and a poster I usually skip over."

The one you 'skip over', BTW, is, .." All I see are concerned catters.."

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 11:44 AM

The problem is, Bobert, that YOU have stated that any of those that disagree with you have mental problems, and are racist and full of hate.

When I see you ignore comments that qualify as hate-filled and racist BY THOSE that agree with your politics, I have to consider that YOU are not really qualified to judge ANYONE.

YOUR silence on Greg F.'s Racist lies about me are proof enough that YOU have no real dislike of racism, but like to use it as a weapon against those YOU hate, after stating you do not.

You have NEVER admitted you have made several factual errors, and you HAVE stated that because YOU saw two pictures in the WashPo that had no Blacks at a Teaparty Rally, ALL Tea Partiers were racist bigots.

You ignored the comments that there were a number of Blacks onstage AT THAT RALLY, and that any number of pictures of Folk Festivals and Getaways can be found with no minority representation UNLESS YOU LOOK AT MULTIPLE PICTURES that are not selected by someone with a "point" to make.

Your continued attacks on the people who disagree with you instead on on the ideas and facts that they present make YOU more likely to be considered a troll by a fair-minded person.


You have shown that you do not consider facts, but rather your own predjudices and opinions as absolutes.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 01:28 PM

Thank you, Bruce!!...If I would have said it,(AGAIN) I would have been accused of being a Tea Party racist, bigot, Republican troll!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 01:57 PM

Seems to be a lot of blank space to skip over in this thread.

Bobert, do you know your troll's real identity?

I believe one Mudcatter does.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 02:08 PM

Bruce. No one who addresses you in this forum gives a damn about your race.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 03:23 PM

Well there goes the thread. Bye all, and thanks for the lucid posts.
Oh, and all the fish!


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 03:26 PM

I'm outta here too!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 03:39 PM

Interesting, some of the people who've posted here who obviously think they are the person Bobert is talking about.

"Fascinating!"
       --Mr. Spock

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: DougR
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 04:00 PM

Bobert: tell them DougR said to knock it off!

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 04:23 PM

2nd attempt to post:

Jack,

I never said anyone cared- but when I was attacked with racial comments by a Liberal here, not a single one of the oh so concerned about the teaparty being racist bothered to comment.

What a bunch of hypocrites!


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 05:02 PM

I think you may be exaggerating or misunderstanding.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jun 12 - 05:08 PM

Nah, OCD Troll is so far avoiding this thread...

No, I don't have his identity... I am purdy sure it is a he as he siad something about his wife a few years back...

I also suspect that my personal OCD Troll has had at least 2 other handles here in the past...

I know that he has quoted me from something I wrote many years ago at Tweeds Blues so I suspect that he was one of the members there...

I also know that he has "Bobert file" that goes back years with everything that he thinks he can use (out of context) as points...

I also know that he comes and goes so there are months when he doesn't post anything and then months where he is here like ugly on a gorilla...

I suspect that he is being paid by some right winged organization to mess with progressives...

I think he lives in Maryland...

Would I threaten civil remedies??? Nah... I thought about it once but find it easier to ignore him as I usually do to anyone who feels that SCREAMING turns lies into truth...

B~

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 10:03 AM

Jack,

No.

Not a chance I misunderstood.

It was quite clear when the present mudelves would remove or edit my posts, and leave the Greg F. Lies alone, then close threads whenever anyone else noticed the bias being shown to those with liberal view, and the removal of threads and postings that could possibly show an opposing view in a better light.

If you want to keep this a "ONLY Liberals have the right to comment, and cannot be held accountable for their posts" reserve, feel free- but at least be honest about the bias being shown.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 10:12 AM

"You" in the final sentence above is meant as collective, to include the entire Mudcat community.

Most here seem quite happy with obvious bigotry, as long as they agree with that "majority" opinion.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 11:43 AM

I do not want to hear *only* from any particular persuasion. I want to hear from anyone who offers facts and reason. When a point is made, I want to hear from anyone who may have another point that can be well-made with those facts and reason. Furthermore, I want them to express themself with relatively correct grammar and words so that I don't have to ask four more times exactly what they meant.

If someone insists on citing "facts" that aren't or employs logical fallacies, the most common of which being:

"If P, then Q.
R.
Therefore, S"

or "post hoc, ergo proctor hoc," also know as the error of causality, and uses intentionally ambiguous wording or sentence structure and refuses to clarify when asked, then I will ignore them, troll or whatever. They offer heat and not light.

They do not offer me new insights or work with me towards greater understanding or a higher truth. They do not entertain me. They bore me. And I will ignore them. If they attempt to do harm to anyone, I will insist that the appropriate authorities deal with them.

Saul


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 11:55 AM

Yeah, that's purdy much what I do, also, saul... There are folks who I know fall into that category that I just scroll on by...

That is what I do with my OCD Troll...

Jesus referred to it as "shaking the dust off your robe"... Doesn't mean you hate the troll... Just means there is nothing to be gained in engaging them and probably harmful for the troll's psychological well being by feeding the OCD...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 12:20 PM

Bruce, I have known you to misinterpret and exaggerate things others have said then throw your version of what they said back at them. I almost never works out for you. But when you stick to the data as you see it and provide that in a discussion, I have seen your point of view welcomed and thanked.

If you think someone has attacked you or your race, the least effective thing you can do is return that behavior.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 12:43 PM

BeardedBruce, there you go, hijacking another thread to be all about you. I hear from people who know you in person that you're okay, but here on the forums there is a consensus that you're an asshole*. And you're still carping about some argument from last year when a remark wasn't deleted?

Blaming the reactions to your bad behavior on the mods is absurd. Get a life and start acting like the people you're talking to here on the forums are people you might actually meet one day, people who you may not want to be embarrassed to meet after the way you misbehave here.

SRS

*a characterization by someone I spoke to about you.

toned down by request. - - - mudelf


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 01:26 PM

See, I like the in-person Bruce but the cyber Bruce falls into my "scroll on by" category... No offense, Bruce..

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 05:45 PM

From wikipedia - note the absence of any "proctor" -

"Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for "after this, therefore because of this", is a logical fallacy (of the questionable cause variety) that states "Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one." It is often shortened to simply post hoc and is also sometimes referred to as false cause, coincidental correlation, or correlation not causation. It is subtly different from the fallacy cum hoc ergo propter hoc, in which two things or events occur simultaneously or the chronological ordering is insignificant or unknown.
Post hoc is a particularly tempting error because temporal sequence appears to be integral to causality. The fallacy lies in coming to a conclusion based solely on the order of events, rather than taking into account other factors that might rule out the connection."


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jun 12 - 10:50 PM

SRS, I think that is unfair. Bruce posts lots of good things. And this "*a characterization by someone I spoke to about you. "

does not excuse this, "you're a royal flaming asshole*." as a blatant personal attack.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 08:23 AM

Thank you Jack. We may not ( often) agree, but you at least respond in a fair manner.

SRS,
YOU are not correct about the previous situation, nor in your other assessments. The problem was that the Elves were deleting MY response to attacks, while leaving the attacks alone. Bigotry in the plainest fashion, favoring the viewpoints of many here. If I go into details, those elves will close the thread, and that will be blamed on me, for defending myself against LIBERAL RACIAL BIGOTED LIES.
When you change YOUR mind, and are willing to look at facts presented by sources that do NOT a priori agree with the point you wish to believe, you might have some worthwhile perspective to offer on some subject. Until then, I keep OFF MOAB: PLease stop making personal attacks against me for no reason other than your obvious nastiness.

Bobert,
No offense taken. You keep telling us what those you disagree with believe, based on your rerception of their actions, and we will continue to point out that you and those you support ACT THE SAME WAY, and that YOU judging each side by different standards

See you at the Getaway, I hope. Having fun with octave violins, fiddles, and chincellos.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 11:24 AM

Poor, poor pitiful me
Poor poor pitiful me.
These liberals won't let me be
Lord have mercy on me
Woe, woe is me.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack Campin
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 11:54 AM

I didn't realize royal flaming assholes were classified as a race.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: GUEST,Punkfolkrocker
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 12:05 PM

If anyone's not already using "Royal Flaming Assholes" as a Band name
do you mind if I claim it as a possibility to our lead guitarist's new side project..


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 12:09 PM

I have an idea for the album art. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 12:10 PM

Charles and Camilla lighting their farts.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 12:13 PM

And you're still carping about some argument from last year ...

And what's more SRS, I admitted my attribution error at the time and apoligized for my error- it can be easily looked up and verified - but that apparently makes no difference to Mr. Beard.

As far as his vituperative campaign against the "MudElves", beats me.

NB: vide the "Histrionic Personality Disorder" thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 12:25 PM

So Bobert, what sort of fun DO you have with chinchillas? Sounds vaguely pornographic to me...


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 12:36 PM

Greg F apologized ( eventually) for attributing the comment to me, but has never apologized to Mudcat as a whole for his interpretations of the post. THAT was racially offensive. JUst my mentioning it is enough to kill a thread- but Greg F. takes joy in having said it.




"Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Greg F. - PM
Date: 10 Nov 11 - 02:00 PM

...
Beardie is also the guy that, in the thread about cash only for second-hand goods, wanted us to know that the sponsor of the bill was a Dumb Ni--er.

Gimmie a break.

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Subject: RE: BS: Wall Street Protesters...
From: Greg F. - PM
Date: 10 Nov 11 - 02:31 PM

For Max and Beardie's benefit, from the archives:

Subject: RE: BS: Louisiana Makes It Illegal To Use Cash
From: pdq - PM
Date: 23 Oct 11 - 07:37 PM

Just for the record, the idiot behind this bill is a member of the Louisiana House of Representitives.

He is Black and a Democrat."






It is not the conservative, BUT THE SO_CALLED LIBERAL who reads "Black and a Democrat" as "Stupid n***ger"


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 01:03 PM

When you change YOUR mind, and are willing to look at facts presented by sources that do NOT a priori agree with the point you wish to believe, you might have some worthwhile perspective to offer on some subject.

BB, your form of "argument" lacks solid fact or reasonable sources - I don't just read what I agree with. You can't seem to get beyond yellow journalism. You won't change my mind about any substantial issues because you hammer away with nonsense and hope that shouting at people will either defeat or influence them. My remark characterizing your behavior in these political threads was a consensus obtained when I spoke to several people about you, but I am not naming names, though I concur. The point is, you puzzle people. You need to act like the members of these threads are a real people you'll meet someday. You don't earn any respect because of the way you behave.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 04:21 PM

SRS,

" I don't just read what I agree with."

This is NOT in accord with your claim of a number of years ago, when you refused to consider ANY information that came from ANY source that "did not a priori agree" with your viewpoint.

I hope you have changed.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Greg F.
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 05:13 PM

The point is, you puzzle people.

He's never puzzled me, SRS - his behavioir and the forum consensus you cite have seemed patently obvious from the first.

In addition, he believes that he can tell what people are thinking, what they take joy in & what they don't and the like, and discern their hidden & ulterior motives for a whole host of things.

Royal Flaming Asshole sums things up quite succinctly.


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Subject: RE: BS: OCDTrolls...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Jun 12 - 07:20 PM

You read my posts that closely that something I wrote years ago you remember? Not likely, but in any case, you remember wrong. I have never said that I refused to read things that didn't "a priori" agree with me. I have said that I don't bother reading spurious unsupported materials - i.e., I stick with good journalism and well-stated arguments. There is a difference.

So why the Jekyll and Hyde behavior? Why is "nasty as you want to be" your method online?

SRS


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