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cricket in Canyon Lake , TX 22 Oct 99 - 07:20 PM
Ed Pellow 22 Oct 99 - 07:25 PM
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_gargoyle 23 Oct 99 - 06:33 AM
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Subject: help needed for chords
From: cricket in Canyon Lake , TX
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 07:20 PM

Last year in our neck of the woods, we had a terrible flood which distroyed my friend's life time collection of music books. I am trying to figure out this net world, and I can't seem to find a place for both lyrics and chords. His is primarily interested in folk music as I am. Any suggestions?


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Ed Pellow
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 07:25 PM

If you let us know which songs you're after, many of us would be more than happy to oblige

Ed


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Hummingbird
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 07:31 PM

Wow, there are so many sites on the internet. I sometimes use the artist's name followed by "chords" or "tab" or do a song search using the song title and "chords" or "tab" after. You can also try the search just for "guitar chords" and then search the web pages that come up. There are just too many to suggest any one in particular. As recommended... ask for a song an artist and someone will help. Hummer.


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: cricket in Canyon Lake, TX
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 08:13 PM

Ok, I think I am getting the idea here, but it still seems such a wide sky. I pulled up Baez, Guthrie, Cohen, Ledbell y, Lightfoot, P/P/M, Hoyt Axton (none), John Prine (none). You get the picture. Is mud cats the best place to start? I know I am a baby in the woods, and I don't even get some of the jokes, but it seems that there should be a faster way to work this tractor.


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Oct 99 - 08:37 PM

Crickett, don't feel badly about the jokes. If you stick around here for awhile, you'l catch on to most of them. A lot of us have a history, here, together and sometiems we just have to poke each other in the ribs.

As far as tractors go, have you tried the newest one out by IH? I hear it has a tubo engine, highpowered rearend differential, and a four ont he floor!**big grin** (Betcha got that one!)

Now, as for chords, these threads are full of chord notations. The Mudcat, itself, is full of the most knowledgable, kindliest, and most helpful people you will find anywhere on the Internet, so...I know it may seem monumental, but if you start a separate thread for chords, etc. for each song you are looking for, someone on here will knwo them and post them for you.

The other thing you might do, if your friend can afford it, is check out the links to Folk Legacy Records. Sandy and Caroline Paton, regular Mudcatters, have some songbooks for sale on their website, and if you buy from them through the Mudcat, the Mudcat gets a percentage. Also, there is a songbook for sale, right now, in the Mducat Auction. You can find all of these at the top of the page, if you click on "Shop and Auction".

Good luck and welcome, welcome to the Mudcat Cafe!

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: _gargoyle
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 06:33 AM

On the front page - here - http://www.Mudcat.org there is a "Links" on the left side of the page.

Click on it and you have connections, to connections, tons of connnections.


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 11:57 AM

Cricket, I MAKE some of those jokes, and I don't get 'em! Welcome to Mudcat.

Rick


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 12:29 PM

Here's another source for you, Cricket. It's an index of all the songs which have been printed in Sing Out magazine. They have all the chords, lyrics, music, etc. but you do have to pay to get them. click here

Good luck, kat


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: WyoWoman
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 01:43 PM

Kat-- I tried that blue clicky thing and it says the URL could not be found. Can you give it another go?

By the way, you still blue? Want to lunch sometime soon? Drop me an email if you want to get together. (The rest a you lot, eat yer hearts out...or come join us!)

WW


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 01:49 PM

Sorry about that, WW. Still semi-blue, leaning towards seething red, but thinking calming violet, thanks for asking. YES! I'd love to. I will send you an email.

Now, here it is again, hope I got it right this time: click here

If it doesn't work, I'll go back to the drawing board and repost.


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 01:56 PM

Can't read my own handwriting! Once again


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Cricket in Canyon Lake, Tx
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 02:28 PM

Dear Kat, Gargoyle, Rick and Wyo W, Thank you! I am just now learning how to turn this tractor off. Your encouragement is deeply appreciated. Right now, I am hoping that I can get some chords (easy ones, now... although I am better with a git-fiddle than I am with a computer) for John Prine, Hoyt Axton's "Sweet Misery," and whatever else anyone out there has that is free. I found the Sing Out site terrific. What a resource! Again, many thanks for your help.


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 02:47 PM

Cricket, you are best off starting an individual thread for each song you are looking for, witht he title or whatever you know of it, in the title of the thread. I will start one for you for the Axton song. That way everyone will see right off what you are looking for and it wo't get buried in a thread liek this.

Also, we just had a great thread on three-chords songs. At the QuickSearch box up top, type in those words and it should come up.

Glad to be of help and please, come back often.

kat


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Cricket
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 06:04 PM

Kat, I tried to find the three chord song link, but I don't have a quick seearch (linlK?) ON my screen. I am going back to the list of links from ahile back to see if that will help.


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 06:32 PM

I am sorry, Cricket, I should've explained better. HERE is a link to that thread. Also, to search the forum, you have three options. At the top of the listing of threads, where it say "Thread Name", just above that is a search box. In that search box, it says "Forum Quick Search". Put your cursor over that, backspace to erase those words and type inw hat you think the thread may have been named. This is not an exact science, so the other thing you can do is, at the top of the threads, slightly to the right, there is an empty box which says "Age". Click on the pull-down arrow there and set it to refresh the threads back as far as you'd like, up to 365 dyas. It will take a little while to get them all loaded, but then you can scroll down the thread names to find what you are looking for, plus that is a great way to find wonderful threads to read, if you have a lot of time! The third option is to go further up on the righthand side of the thread page, to another empty box, which says "Quick Links". Click ont he pull down arrow and chose "Search Forum", then click on "Go"; then type in the name of the thread OR type in a User name of someone you know has posted to the thread you are looking for and hit go. If you don't know who has posted to a particular thread, just put any of the regulars' name, such as Catspaw49, Rick Fielding, Joe Offer, Bert, or any of the rest of us, in as User, and you're bound to find the thread you are looking for.

Clear as mud? Fire that tractor up and don't hesitate to ask!**big grin**

katlaughing


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: cricket
Date: 23 Oct 99 - 06:47 PM

I fiugured the refreshing thing out. Yipee! What a computer stud I am getting to be.... Wow did I sense some anomosity in that three chord thread dialogue/diatribe? Who are you Gargolye? How interesting that someone would condiered himself Gargolyed. Gee I wonder what would happen if someone got cricketed. I am going to have to read and reread that whole discussion on three chord songs. I thought I was going to be able to get some chords to songs and instead I dropped into a rather deep discussion on music theroy which might have just as well been written in Swahili. This is too cool for school--maybe it is the real school. thanks, guys for letting me into the mudcat world. One other question. Is it a real world or a concept?


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 08:00 AM

Cricket,

Any relationship between the real world and the Mudcat Cafe is purely coincidental. Any similaritites to the characters here and real people are unintentional.

You may have thought you are talking to other people, but this is simply a large program of simulated personalities accompanied by a substantial data base of folk (and other) tunes.

The personalities are Max's attempts to give the data base a human face.

And it is hereby noted that you have encountered the Gargoyle. Please do not feed the animal and do not be lured into thinking it harmless. Consider this fair and adequate warning.

Big RiB


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 09:19 AM

Well, we like to think we're real.**BG** And, Cricket, Big RiB's words are good advice; somehow I doubt there were be any comparison between being gargoyled or cricketed.


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: _gargoyle
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 11:56 AM

You will enjoy the (much smaller) two chord thread that is found here: Two Chord Songs


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: WyoWoman
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 01:17 PM

I *feel* pretty real, at least to me.

I just attended this interesting conference in which one of the speakers was addressing the concern all us futzy old print journalists are dealing with these days, which is how to have the internet not destroy us, yet to plug into it somehow in a way that serves our readers. The speaker talked about the tradition division of humanity according to individuals, tribes and societies. He said the internet is now making it possible for people to connect with their "lost tribes" in a way that isn't bound by time or space. The idea, and I think it is the wave of the future, is for people to organize themselves much more into "communities of interest," with the 'net being the means for their connection.

At first, frankly, I found the idea of this being a community a bit off-putting, and was a little bothered by some of the emotional "gushiness" I saw here. However, I've completely changed my mind about that for a variety of reasons and really do feel that I could meet up with any of the regulars I've gotten to know here and be pretty good friends very quickly. a mutual love of music comes first, but the connections go deeper now, mainly having to do with what I would characterize as a wry, slightly jaundiced but still humane view of human affairs, and a compassion for how individual humans try to live their lives with dignity and honor (which is pretty much what folk music boils down to, isn't it?).

I may be rambling, but ... we get to do *that* here, too.

WyoWoman


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Cricket in Canyon Lake, TX
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 11:29 PM

Wow... and all I wanted was some chords. I agree that the net is a very scarey place, especially after what my high school students bring to the table as evidence. It is not the gushiness that makes me wary, but, rather, it is the speed at which i can be "hooked up" with people who have a love similar to my own which has, because of children, geography, time, and real world issues, been placed on the back burner--hell, let me be frank--it isn't even on the stove anymore. This is the first time I have spent doing something that was productive and enjoyable since I can't remember when. I am going back to school tomorrow with a stack of songs and chords which I have printed on the machine to my right, the sense that I can find my way (sort of...) around the net, and the realization that came to me tonight as I did the dishes, "Holy quacamole! I was in a chat room. ( I think.) Thank you everyone. What a delightful way to spend some time. I will come back to you once I get a list of songs from my friend who, as I explained, lost everything in a flash flodd in Central Texas last year. For those who have had a heavy blow in the Carolinas, I am thinking of you. Wyo Woman. That wasn't too gushy was it?


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 11:32 PM

Splendid, Cricket, just splendid. Now don't forget to come back and tell us how it is going. There's always more available than you were looking for, at the Mudcat.

katlaughingwhoalsolivesinWyoming


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 11:34 PM

Dear Cricket, Roger is Max's greatest cyber-accomplishment. But we are HELPFUL ghosts!

Rick


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Cricket in Canyon Lake, Tx
Date: 24 Oct 99 - 11:52 PM

Geez,louise-- don't you people ever sleep/work/ get up from the tractor? Go to bed!


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: WyoWoman
Date: 25 Oct 99 - 12:10 AM

Cricket -- Not too gushy at all. Besides, I'm a gushy as the next one now. Well, almost.

(And remember, you're dealing with different time zones here, and not in real time, which as I understand it is the difference between a chat room and a forum... But you're right. I'm getting off the tractor and going to bed now. My cat tells me it's time...)

WW


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Margo
Date: 25 Oct 99 - 01:05 AM

So glad you dropped in, Cricket. I too had put part of my life on the back burner, but found it again when I started doing music. I ran into the Mudcat Cafe, and now I'm a steady customer. See ya soon,

Margarita in Vancouver, Washington


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Davey
Date: 25 Oct 99 - 12:19 PM

Hi cricket, from Davey in Toronto..... I see you've been educated about GG... good... I must also provide a warning... This place is hazardous to your sense of time. I spend more much time talking to this wacky and wonderful collection of people than I do my co-workers, and during a time when I should be getting some of the things done which pay my salary (work, you know). You, too, may get hooked, if you're not careful (and even if you are) **GRIN**


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 99 - 12:42 PM

Davey - MUST you use that word? *shudder* to say "w*rk" in a public forum! No wonder there are content filters out there! Cricket - hope you find the 'Cat a congenial place. I personally think that the electronic forums have replaced the old fashioned gatherings on the front porch...

MMario


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Mark Clark
Date: 25 Oct 99 - 07:08 PM

Here's a question for the group...

Everyone needs to begin by memorizing chord progressions to the songs they want to play but, at some point, the genre becomes second nature and you automatically "know" the chords to almost any piece anyone performs, whether you've heard it before or not.

My question is a two parter. First, how long were you playing before you reached that point and second, is it faster to collect the progressions to a huge list of songs than it is to just play with other people until the genre becomes internalized?

What experiences have people had?

- Mark


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 25 Oct 99 - 07:28 PM

Firstly, HI, CRICKET and welcome! Hope people's thoughts have been a help. Secondly to Mark Clark (any relation to the General?) what worked for me was to notice the patterns and they see how often they applied-- and they apply VERY often, so I would recommend playing with others better than you (and most of these people will be VERY patient while you are getting up to speed) until it starts running on autopilot. And it will. PETE


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Subject: RE: help needed for chords
From: _gargoyle
Date: 25 Oct 99 - 10:33 PM

Gee....Davey...seein' as you were a personal "invite" from the "gang-o-twelve"....ahhhh had to give you a personal "handshake."

Welcome...
grasshopper...cricket....beetle....cockroach....staph-germ


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