BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 11:07 AM

Top man!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: olddude
Date: 29 Nov 12 - 08:44 AM

well I told him he could have it free but I wanted the 300 for the food pantry to help them feed folks, he wrote a check for the food pantry. I am very happy

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 07:25 PM

Re adding water, if you go to a whisky tasting, they will usually invite you to first taste the dram neat, then try it with progressively increasing (but small) quantities of water and observe the - also progressive - change in flavour. With some whiskies this can be quite a dramatic change and definitely not a watering down of the taste, but conversely a releasing of new elements of flavour which you don't get with the neat product, and often actually inproves the experience. Some also go cloudy - this does not indicate anything wrong with the whisky. Between drams you'll probably get oatcakes to "clean the palate" (not palette!!)

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 06:58 PM

BYW, if you click around the last site I linked, there is some good whisky information, including information on various scotch brands in the section below.


Whisky brands

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 06:47 PM

While this is a scotch thread, there was some mention of Canadian whisky in one post.

Here is a link to inrormation on that product:Canadian Whisky

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: olddude
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 06:12 PM

Yup that works

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 06:06 PM

Take the 300, buy a 20 dollar bottle of Highland Park, give the rest to the Food Bank, Dan. Everybody's happy!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: olddude
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 01:20 PM

Well I got my bottle, now I am feeling guilty. As much as I would like to have a glass my doc buddie offered me 300 bucks for it .. 300 bucks would go a long way to help the local food pantry so easy come easy go ... heck I rarely drink anyway ...

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Ed T
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 10:19 AM

Top world Spirit sales


5 Best selling Whisky brands
5 top selling Scotch brands

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 09:50 AM

Speaking of Bushmills, Sainsbury's do a very nice single malt Irish whiskey called Eire for twenty quid. It's in their Taste The Difference range. I much prefer it to Bushmills. A damn fine drop for the money, I'd say.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Musket
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 08:41 AM

I was wrong in what I said; it is THE Macallan, not just Macallan.

My bad

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Lox
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 08:40 AM

Bushmill's do a nice single malt Irish Whiskey ...

Steve - not too much water - just enough to take the edge off and allow you to enjoy the flavour - about 1 unit of water for every 3 of whiskey

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Allan Conn
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 08:19 AM

Get your point so sorry I was specifically talking about 'Scotch whisky' so should have clarified that better. (Didn't grasp you were pulling my leg) The word in that context simply means a whisky that is made in Scotland. The definition Michaelr posted seemed to suggest it meant specifically a whisky blended with corn rye whisky.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 08:12 AM

Sciotch is the correct term for whisky distilled in Scotland, but to say Scotch means Scottish in all cases isn't strictly true. That was what I was querying Allan.
I am Scottish, but I'm not Scotch :)

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Allan Conn
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 08:06 AM

"Thanks Allan, but you're wrong." Underneath is the FAQ section from the Scotch Whisky Association and underneath the relevant page from the latest govt definition on the term Scotch!

http://www.scotch-whisky.org.uk/understanding-scotch/faqs/


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http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2009/2890/regulation/3/made

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Allan Conn
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 08:02 AM

"Scotch whisky is made from peat dried, malted barley that has been fermented and distilled and then blended with corn rye whisky. The barley whisky is distilled at 140 proof and the corn rye at 180 proof."

This definition is certainly not the definition used in the UK. There are of course standards as to what constitutes a proper whisky in Scotland but any whisky made to the legal standard in Scotland is called Scotch whisky. Scotch simply means Scottish and does not dictate the type of whisky. The single malts are Scotch as are the other four types of Scotch. ie the blended malts; the blended whiskies, the blended grain whiskies and the single grain whiskies.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 07:48 AM

I spy a wee troll there. Thanks Allan, but you're wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Allan Conn
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 07:45 AM

"What's the difference between Scotch and whisk(e)y?" If a whisky comes from Scotland then it is Scotch. Scotch simply means Scottish! Nothing more complicated than that!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 06:26 AM

Why were you hanging around in Soho Terry?

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 Nov 12 - 06:11 AM

I know of a small shop in Soho that has a display of MacCallan bottles going back to 1922 - The 1922 bottle (Standard 70cl) is priced
at £22000 !!!
And they have miniatures at higher prices than I would want to pay for a bottle

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: michaelr
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 09:39 PM

GNU: Whisky is a type of alcoholic beverage that is distilled from fermented grain mash. Different grains are used for producing different varieties of the drink. Some of these are barley, malted barley, rye, wheat and maize (corn). Whiskies are generally stored or aged in a wooden cask, made out of oak.

Different Kinds Of Whisky

Malt Whisky
This is a whisky made in the traditional manner, out of malted barley. Malt whisky is still made in the traditional, onion-shaped pot.

Grain Whisky
This is made out of both, malted and un-malted barley and also includes other grains, such as wheat and maize. Grain whisky was first produced in the 1830's and is primarily used in blends.

Single Malt Whisky
Single malt whisky is made solely out of malted barley and it comes from just one distillery. This whisky has a taste that is specific to the distillery in which it is made, and is often blended with other whiskies, in order to reach a perfect blend.

Cask Strength Whisky
This whisky is taken from the cask and bottled immediately, without being diluted. Therefore, it has higher alcohol content than most others.

Blended Whisky
Blended whisky is generally made out of a mix of malt and grain whisky. Malt whisky improves the quality of the final drink, as grain whiskeys are held to be of inferior taste & quality. It can also be described as a blend of malt whiskeys from different distilleries.

Rye Whisky
This is not among the most popular of whiskeys. It is made from a fermented mash of atleast 51% rye. It is primarily used in mixed drinks, but has some diehard fans as well, who enjoy its heavier body.

Bourbon Whisky
Bourbon whisky is made almost exclusively in the United States. It must contain at least 51% corn, have been distilled at more than 160 proof and stored in new charred oak barrels. It has a full-bodied, sweet flavor.

Irish Whisky
Irish whisky is made from blended malt of half barley and half oats. There is no trace of a smoky or sweet flavor. The two main brands are Jameson and Bushmills.

Canadian Whisky
It is produced in Canada, basically with corn, but it may also contain some rye, barley, and wheat. The mash is distilled at high proof and is filtered before bottling. A minimum 2 years of aging is required before use, in a new or old barrel. Canadian whiskey is light and slightly sweet.

Scotch Whisky
Scotch whisky is made from peat dried, malted barley that has been fermented and distilled and then blended with corn rye whisky. The barley whisky is distilled at 140 proof and the corn rye at 180 proof. It is light bodied, has a smoky flavor and originates from Scotland.

As to the spelling: it's whisky in Scotland (just as Scottish music is diddly) but whiskey in Ireland (just as Irish music is diddley). ;-)

Hope that clears it up.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: olddude
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 09:24 PM

I can tell ya from experience Pop Corn Sutton made some amazing Likker also and his was out in the woods with a spring fed stream running for the mash. Aged .. 4 hours or as long as it took to put it in the jars

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: olddude
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 09:22 PM

LOL well that explains it Steve, the stags ...
and EJ you are so right, for me ... Jack Daniels ain't no slouch either. But I rarely drink but yup I like Jack Daniels also

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 09:17 PM

Please don't get on my case when I ask this.

What's the difference between Scotch and whisk(e)y?

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 08:17 PM

"But for some reason the Scots have it perfect"

And the Kentuckians ain't too bad neither, Dan. Have a little Eagle I think Rare, Knobb Creek, or even Maker's Mark, my friend. Of course, hell of a lot of Scots ended up down in them thickets.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 08:06 PM

what is the secret?

Stag piss... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 08:03 PM

Amy body else find themselves drinking more Scotch since this thread popped up? Thanks Dan!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: olddude
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 08:02 PM

Not talking about adding water when drinking it .. I am talking about how they make it so good ... is there water better than others, or their ingredients ... don't know ... making whiskey ain't really rocket science since everyone knows how to do it. But for some reason the Scots have it perfect I think ... what is the secret?

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 07:58 PM

Yeah but they add water before we even buy it!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: michaelr
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 07:54 PM

Well Steve, it's the whole Scotch industry against you on that one... the makers say that adding a drop of water is essential.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 07:04 PM

I'm on the Glenlivet tonight.

I was given it for my birthday a couple of weeks ago.

Just add enough water to bring it down from about 40% to about 30% and the flavour just overcomes you.

Warm, cosy, golden ... I might even be tempted to say "Oh Yes" ...

slainte

Oh dear, Lox, you and I are about to have out first spat! ;-) I've tried this "adding water" malarkey and I fear it is (euphemisms here? No, do the man a favour...) anathema. A tragedy. A travesty, even. Surely one's mouth waters so much at the very thought of a fine malt that no such further addition is necessary? My view is that no water should ever be taken for any reason once the sun is below the yardarm. Especially not in malt!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:23 PM

If it were the water, they would all taste equally good, would they not?

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: olddude
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 06:19 PM

What makes their whiskey so good? serious question, is it the water or simply the know how. I suspect there is no secret know how as people everywhere been making whiskey for a zillion years .. has to be something in their soil or water ... dunno any experts wanna edge-u-kate this mountain man

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 05:09 PM

Whisky is probably the best known of Scotland's manufactured exports contributing around £800 million to the Scottish economy, supporting 41,000 jobs as well as adding £2 billion to the balance of trade making it one of the UK's top five manufacturing export earners. The Whisky industry also generates a substantial income for the government with around £1.6bn raised in duty each year. The principal whisky producing areas include Speyside and the island of Islay where there are 8 distilleries providing a major source of employment for the island. In many areas the whisky industry is closely related with tourism, with many distilleries also functioning as tourist attractions worth £30 million Gross Value Added to the industry each year.

Wikipedia.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Ed T
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:59 PM

Bits of this old economic study of the Scotch industry are interesting reading.


Old economic study

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch (!Macallan!)
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:20 PM

Ooh, falling over time beckons

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Megan L
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:14 PM

Next time yer ower John ah'll tak ye tae The Lynnfield at the last count they had 200 whiskys that should keep ye happy fur an hour or twa

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:09 PM

I'm drinking a wee dram of Bowmore, yet another lovely Islay malt.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Lox
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 04:01 PM

I'm on the Glenlivet tonight.

I was given it for my birthday a couple of weeks ago.

Just add enough water to bring it down from about 40% to about 30% and the flavour just overcomes you.

Warm, cosy, golden ... I might even be tempted to say "Oh Yes" ...

slainte

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Megan L
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:50 PM

Pete he has probably wandered into The Pot Still

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:44 PM

Lagavulin for me!

One wouldn't argue.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 03:11 PM

Is that what Illya Kuryakin drinks Dan?

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: GUEST,Dave Hanson sans cookie
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 02:51 PM

Lagavulin is one of the really great Whiskies, I'm going to splash out on a bottle of cask strength for Christmas.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 02:26 PM

Lagavulin for me!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 09:33 AM

A friend at a folk weekend shared a bottle of the Madeira. I got a small taste.... very nice indeed!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 27 Nov 12 - 05:42 AM

I tried that one - quite nice but not up there with the Madeira Cask!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 08:37 PM

Re Glenmorangie in different casks, Lasanta from a sherry cask is very pleasant and readily available. Got it on special offer in Morrison's for £28.75 for 70cl, usual price a bit over £30.

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 07:35 AM

My former head of MA fine art moved to Glasgow in September (to work at the Glasgow School of Art). He sent a text last week saying he'd found a bar which has 500 whiskeys on offer. Reckoned he'd already made a start...

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: michaelr
Date: 26 Nov 12 - 01:01 AM

Just got a bottle of Cardhu 12yo, from Speyside. Very nice!

Subject: RE: BS: Oh yes Mcallum Scotch
From: scouse
Date: 25 Nov 12 - 07:28 AM

One of my very good friends buys me a Bottle of Aberlour 10 year old every year for my Birthday one year she couldn't buy it so got the 12 year old instead.. Talk about seventh heaven Mmmmmmmmm!!!

As Aye,

Phil.