Prince William and Kate expecting a baby

Subject: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 11:57 AM

Just been announced: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby

Happy news! All leave cancelled at the BBC....

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 12:02 PM

Tweeted by Peter Hunt @BBCPeterHunt:
Kate is understood to be less than 12 weeks pregnant.

Kate is in hospital suffering from a severe form of morning sickness known as hyperemesis gravidarum.

After she leaves hospital, Kate according to St James' Palace will require a period of rest.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 12:07 PM

While this news certainly gives me a boner, Noreen was kind enough to explain a specific language problem on FB which blames the austerity program economy for it. BTW, we generally don't the announce births here of babies which we will have to support in a lavish lifestyle for all of their lives.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 12:27 PM

Maybe now she'll put some bloody weight on!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Backwoodsman sans Cookie
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:07 PM

I'm delighted. Anything that winds up the Green-Eyed, jealous pissers and moaners and gets them pissing and moaning is good AFAIC.   :-)

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:11 PM

One thing I wanta make perfectly clear. The kid ain't mine. I had nothin' to do with it.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:11 PM

Does anybody know how this happened?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:26 PM

I was in a pet shop the other day and there was this sign behind the til - 'ADOPT A TURTLE'

Inspired by William and Kate, I will now consider adoption. Denise and I have been trying for years for a turtle - but God has not been kind, and smiled upon our efforts.

Now adoption seems the only course.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:26 PM

You should see if you can get an invite to their next public occasion, and just ask 'em straight out, Wesley. You might even get yer name in the papers.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:29 PM

"Does anybody know how this happened? "

LOL!!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:40 PM

BTW, the supermarket checkout magazines have had this news for a couple of weeks now.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 01:47 PM

Dang! I missed it somehow. I was in the drugstore yesterday, and all I noticed at the checkout was some nonsense about Kim Kardashian getting a lot of people upset with her in the Middle East.

I believe Chongo when he says he had nothing to do with this. After all, he is a one-woman ape. Everyone knows that. I think he can be trusted.

At any rate, I am pleased to hear that Kate and William have a baby on the way, and I wish them much happiness.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:04 PM

what a bunch of miserable old gits!

i wish them much joy and may the child be protected from the nasty slings and arrows.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Little Hawk
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:15 PM

It's like a old crabs convention, eh, Kat? ;-) I call it the Nasty Old Men Online Club.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Bill D
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:19 PM

So...will this kid be 3rd in line to the throne? Does Andrew move down?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 03:56 PM

They've all got it in for them. :) Or somebody has.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: olddude
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 04:26 PM

Does the taxpayer really support them, I am not from GB so I know little about the castle and stuff arrangement or do they just pay for themselves? Either way, I wish them a happy and healthy child. That is what I want for everyone

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 04:31 PM

No they do not, it's just wishful thinking on the part of socialist prats.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 04:52 PM

Happy baby Kate & Prince William...

What if the baby becomes a famous Folk Singer? Turns his/her back on the Royalty thing, and becomes the new SUPERSTAR of the U.K. Then the NEW FOLK BOOM of the century happens and everybody picks up a guitar, autoharp, etc. you know the drill...

Stay tuned...:0)

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 05:30 PM

His Royal Highness Prince Charles, receives the annual net surplus of the Duchy of Cornwall and chooses to use a large proportion of the income to meet the cost of his public and charitable work.

The Prince also uses part of the income to meet the costs of his private life and those of his wife, The Duchess of Cornwall, and his sons, Prince William and Prince Harry.

The Duchy is tax exempt, but The Prince of Wales voluntarily pays income tax (currently at 40 per cent) on his taxable income from it.

Snipped from here.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Allan Conn
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 06:30 PM

"Does Andrew move down?" Harry and Andrew would both move down one space to fourth and fifth respectively!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 07:16 PM

Does anybody know how this happened?

Apparently someone had it in for him...

:D tG

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 08:05 PM

I thought gender was being removed from succession of the Crown. Would that not make Anne second in line? IE if Charlie does not survive his mother Anne would rule. Then her children etc., sending others to the bottom of the list. Only if Charlie becomes king does this follow and Lizzie ain't planning on leaving anytime soon!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: gnu
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 08:23 PM

DtG...0 hahahahahahaheheheheheee!!!!!! Hillllarious!

I wish them much happiness and a healthy child. As for all the crap from the Brits who feel the "spawn" will be a drain on them... yer lucky to live in the greatest country(s) on earth and The Royals played a great part in that over the last thousand or so years so you ungratefuls should welcome another one of them with some civility and some respect.

IMO, you shit on yourselves and your heritage and your history when you talk trash like that. Ya don't like it, move. Apparently, a lot of your country(s)men like it. As well as at least 25 other Commonwealth country(s)men.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Songwronger
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 10:06 PM

Watch for an "early delivery." The occultic Windsors will induce labor or cut the thing out of her when the numerological time is right.

I read a thing about 3,000 dead with some national health screwup today. Will Kate be getting the "benefit" of that glorious system?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 10:41 PM

No surprise she's pregnant, they've been a couple for 10 years now. Sounds like they planned well as far as timing. She is very thin, I hope she is able to keep a few pounds on gracefully after the child's birth.

SRS

You haven't figured out that "Dexter" is the same old troll?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 10:52 PM

Best wishes to the baby-to-be-born, parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.

Sandy,over here in the US I'm hardly an expert on the royal line, but I think Anne is out of it but this baby, boy or girl, will be in line. I think it still follows the first-born child and second- and later-borns don't count unless the heir dies and the spare inherits the throne. I think for Anne to get it, there would have to be no surviving children of William and Kate, and William, Harry, and Charles would have to die with no surviving children. But even then I'm not sure if Anne would get it before her younger brothers who were born long before the gender issue was removed--unless it is retroactive.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 11:09 PM

I do not consider myself either miserable or a git. I hope that the family is and remains well. I don't see much point in giving them personal greetings on this forum. But if it is confirmed that they read this forum, I will be happy to.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: frogprince
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 11:21 PM

Songwronger, how long have you and Henry Krinkle been married?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 11:31 PM

They do seem to be "of a feather."

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Beer
Date: 03 Dec 12 - 11:36 PM

Bless em All.
Adrien

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 02:32 AM

"I thought gender was being removed from succession of the Crown. Would that not make Anne second in line?"

No on two fronts! Firstly the plan is to change the law specifically worded in regard to the descendents of Charles. Hence the first ones to be effected would be his grand-children as both his children are male anyway. Secondly even if the law immediately changed for all exisitng royals shaking up the current line then Anne still wouldn't be second in line. The oldest sibling next to Charles would have been second in line until Charles himself had offspring. Disregarding anyone's sex then Anne would only be 4th in line at the moment and would be pushed down to 5th on the birth of this baby!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 02:56 AM

"Ya don't like it, move. Apparently, a lot of your country(s)men like it."

It is a bit absurd that Brits should receive a lecture from foreigners about how lucky they are to live in a country where the royal family reigns! Many of us are royalists but a great many of us aren't. It doesn't make anyone less patriotic or respectful of their history! In fact much of the history since at least the 17thC had to do with the curbing and diminishing of royal power. (ie think of the Scottish Covenanters; the English Civil War; Cromwell; the Williamite Revolution;arguably the Act of Union itself) Some would like to take that a bit further - or even to do away with them altogether. I suspect most Americans would baulk at the idea that a baby currently in the womb should be promised (barring premature death) the position of Head of State of the US sometime in the future! Why should Brits be castigated for holding those seem feelings?

Anyway what is more to the point is that even many people who are happy enough with the status quo re the monarchy will be less than happy with the blanket media coverage we are in for. I woke up this morning to little world news on our local station other than two women prattling on as to whether William will or won't change nappies!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 02:56 AM

Thank God they don't get to decide anything!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 03:00 AM

If he can afford to hire someone to do it and he doesn't he is a fool. IMHO.

Not that I have ever had a child. My wife, the proud mother of one does not agree.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: ChrisJBrady
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 03:17 AM

Twins?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Backwoodsman sans Cookie
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 04:35 AM

I changed my kids' nappies (or, to use the silly US-Ian expression, "diapers"), hundreds of them. And I bathed the kids, wiped their arses, fed them, dressed them, cuddled them when they cried, did everything and anything they needed. And every single time, it was a joy and a privilege.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 04:38 AM

What do I know about nappies?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 04:46 AM

I can't imagine the type of characters who would post such vituperative, crude and misanthropic rubbish about a pregnant woman. I wish the couple well and hope that Catherine's morning sickness is speedily resolved. It's perfectly natural to be interested in the birth of a child who will one day inherit the throne. Goodwill towards a young couple embarking on parenthood isn't much to ask. I'm very pleased for them and for the Royal Family.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Marianne S.
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 04:48 AM

There's one good side effect - the saturation coverage is explaining in agonising detail that for many women, morning sickness isn't just feeling queasy in the morning for a couple of months.

As someone who was still honking on the way to the delivery room, I will be delighted if this leads to more understanding and sympathy for sufferers.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Big Al whittle
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 05:32 AM

Predictable.....

now if they were expecting a lizard, green shoots of recovery in the British economy, England winning the world cup, ...or what if all these Islamic countries said we want Moorish dancing restored to its proper place, and sod all these so called Morris dancers...give us it back, or we'll send suicide bombers!

that would be unexpected, and it would be interfesting.

hand on heart, does anyone give a bugger?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: banjoman
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 05:40 AM

The birth of any baby is something to be celebrated. However, I am pissed off at the constant headlines since the anouncement. Its not as if she (or he) have done anything unusual or something restricted to Royals Only.
Most other expectant mothers dont have the choice of extended rest or hospital care for sickness.
Please can the media leave them alone or are we going to be subject to a nine month monitoring of her condition followed by the homecoming, the baptism etc etc.
Please spare us

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 05:45 AM

No, not much of a bugger, Al. I've never met them, though I once met his Uncle Edward when he used to perform in student shows at Cambridge when I was a theatre critic there, and rather a boring young man I found him, though quite a good dancer. But I can't see why such as Dexter seem to get such satisfaction out of coming on as if the very existence of the young couple under consideration were some sort of personal insult by a hostile world aimed specifically & personally at him. I mean, he might protest "they are only people", and come on all innocent of any animus towards them; but of what other people whom he doesn't even know would he then go on to describe the wife as a 'tart', and define their personhood solely by the attributes of scratching their piles and farting? He is a coarse and disagreeable individual, however one looks at him.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 05:49 AM

BTW ~ Re the press coverage: I just turn over the page when I get to those pages in the paper. There is no compulsion to 'read all about it' if not so inclined. Some people like to, however, and I can't see why anyone should grudge them that innocent pleasure.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:02 AM

I agree entirely with you, Eliza. Many of the comments in here should be removed, not only because they are appalling, but because it also degrades Mudcat by letting them stay on here.

As to Kate and William, they are both sweet people, regardless of their backgrounds. I just hope this little babe is born safely, for she is having major problems at a very early stage and she hasn't looked well for a very long time, being way too thin.

To be pregnant in an ordinary world is hard enough at times, especially when you feel so ill, but to be have to go through it all in a media-frenzied Goldfish Bowl, surrounded by some of the like-minded people as are in this thread, is going to be horrible for her.

I just hope her doctor has her diagnosis correct, for having had a Hydatidiform Molar pregnancy myself, where sickness continues 24/7 until you can barely stand up, ending in either the almost unavoidable death of your child, or you having to be taken into hospital for other reasons, I know how truly Bloody Grim it is to feel as she's feeling right now.

Leave her alone, for God's sake and just let her cope with all she has to cope with right now without feckingly foul numbskulls saying such hateful and disgusting things as can be seen in here!

Clean up your act, Mudcat Mods and zap some of these putrid posts.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:35 AM

Lizzie, Kate has the option to live and give birth in any number of royal palaces, I'm sure with the finest of medical care and with a loving husband. Compared to that, a few foul words on the Mudcat ain't much.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:40 AM

Unfortunately Lizzie, bad taste isn't a good enough excuse to delete posts on Madcut. I know, because I've been there.
While Jade Goody was dieing of cervical cancer, some eedjit on here asked if anybody had any good jokes about her. Now that is what I call bad taste. Sure she was no better than she should be, but she was dieing FFS. Thread was deleted by me, and reinstated by Joe Offer. One of the many reasons I am no longer a mod on this site. I would add that Madcut left me, not the other way round :) Before the mud slinging starts.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:55 AM

"I just turn over the page when I get to those pages in the paper."

In the case of one certain newspaper this morning it would be turning over the first 15 pages! One doesn't need to read it right enough but many people will already have paid for their newspaper to find little actual news in it apart from what her hair was like last week and what kind of maternity fashionwear she is likely to have. It isn't news of any kind. It is something that more properly belongs in fashion mags like Hello. Of course there must be a market for it. Of course they have a right to read it just as others have a right to moan about the blanket saturation they have to put up with. Saying that I don't like the rude and personal attacks on Kate etc. I wish her well in her pregnancy. I just don't look forward to hearing about it all the time!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:59 AM

Then read another paper, Allan It really isn't compulsory to read the stuff if one doesn't want to.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:35 AM

"It really isn't compulsory to read the stuff if one doesn't want to."

I didn't read it! wouldn't waste my time. Just gleamed that info from the headlines as I turned page after page. It isn't as easy as buy another paper anyway. As i've already said I woke up this morning to my local radio news and the main story on that was "will William change nappies or not?". The general media saturation is way over the top - as it always is with things like this. People can't help but hear about it adnauseum. It is not surprising that people get fed up if with it and moan when it goes over the top! People are just as entitled to moan as other ar entitled to get wrapped up in the soap opera!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:51 AM

"As to Kate and William, they are both sweet people, ... !

So you know them well, do you Lizzie?

Sadly, whenever I see a little child, or hear of a pregnancy, these days, I find myself thinking: that kid's going to have to suffer the consequences of a 2, or 4, or even 6 degrees C rise in average global temperature; it ain't going to be pretty and may not be survivable!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:09 AM

I can't understand how people who don't know them can call them 'tarts' either, or imagine that they can be summarised by the fact that they fart & have itching piles. You really are rather an unsavoury sort of individual, Dexter. I should like to think I have much more in common with a respectable hardworking RAF officer helicopter pilot, and his former industrious photographer and web-designer wife, than with the likes of your resolutely, priggishly, self-satisfied and disagreeable self.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:24 AM

>>>Lizzie, Kate has the option to live and give birth in any number of royal palaces, I'm sure with the finest of medical care and with a loving husband. Compared to that, a few foul words on the Mudcat ain't much.<<<

I don't give a damn about her background. She is a human being and she has NOT asked for ANY of this media attention. They should leave them both alone. I don't hear you or anyone else going on about the media who are the real pariahs here!

Dexter, I don't know you, but I already know that I'd far rather be trapped on a desert island with Kate and William, than with your ugly, bitter, disgusting personality.



>>>>>So you know them well, do you Lizzie?<<<<<<


William has always been a nice lad. I've no doubt at all he's very well liked by the men he works with. He did not ASK to be born into the family he has been. Kate did not ASK to fall in love with a man born into this family either. They are just two young people trying to do the best they can. She may be in grave danger of losing her child, so just back off and give her space.


>>>>Sadly, whenever I see a little child, or hear of a pregnancy, these days, I find myself thinking: that kid's going to have to suffer the consequences of a 2, or 4, or even 6 degrees C rise in average global temperature; it ain't going to be pretty and may not be survivable!<<<<

Really, Shimrod?????? Then may I fecking well suggest that you join William's father and do all you can too to take on The Corporate Bastards over Climate Change, because Charles IS out there doing all that he can to get The Insane Ones to LISTEN!! Find him on Youtube, masses of videos!

He cares PASSIONATLEY about the kind of world he is leaving for his children and he cannot understand why everyone else isn't out there fighting for theiri future too.

Don't fecking feck with people PURELY because of the family they were born into! LOOK DEEPER, or remain a Shallow Headed Prat for the remainder of your days!!


John, thank you for your words about Mudcat and thank you for closing down that thread. Joe was, imo, wrong to resurrect it. There is a 'free speech' and then, there is 'abuse of free speech' and to allow unfeeling, uncaring, sociopathic nutcases complete liberty to pour out their vitriolic minds on Mudcat is appalling.....

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:34 AM

Don't feed the troll. The original GUEST: dexter posted several years ago and is from the US. This isn't him.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:34 AM

Lizzie ~ Am, as usual, in agreement with your points in general; but I think you are a bit unfair to those who like to pay the Royal Family attention, and the media who cater to that wish. Not quite true that she didn't ask for all this media attention; she knew well it was what she would get when she 'joined'. There are many people who love royal media stories, which seems to me a harmless and not unpleasant interest, though not one I happen to share. The people I think at fault are those who grudge them this innocent interest, and attempt to spoil it for them by enviously and spitefully belittling the objects of it ~~ all of whom I repeat, are perfectly respectable and hardworking people, with whom I feel much more in common than with the likes of the disagreeable Dexter.

Regards azevva

~Michael~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:37 AM

As one involved in folk music for more years than I care to remember, I can't recall anyone with any credibility ever being a staunch royalist. It somewhat goes against the tide of our culture.

You obviously never met me and a lot of other folkies I know...

Good luck to them both I say.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:47 AM

"....Not quite true that she didn't ask for all this media attention; she knew well it was what she would get when she 'joined'...."

She didn't 'ask' for it. She merely fell in love with William, whom she met a long time ago at University. She married into his family and now has to endure all the shit they do. What was she supposed to do? Refuse to be with him because of the paparazzi pariahs? She loves him! You can see how thin she's become since her marriage.

They will hound her, possibly to her death, just like they did with William's mother. They are sociopathic leeches who ONLY care for 'the story' and nothing else.

I can imagine nothing worse than knowing that you are being watched ALL the time, wherever you go, every single moment of your life. She took that on ONLY because she loves William..and it is already taking its' toll.

Those leeches will be camped outside King Edward VII hospital right now, waiting to get the first photo of her as she leaves, regardless if she leaves still pregnant, or having lost her baby.

They don't give a damn either way.

Having terrible nausea 24/7 makes some people want to die, literally die..It is the same as severe seasickness, where many sailors used to have to be tied down to stop them throwing themselves overboard...

You can't eat, you can't drink, you can't sleep, you can't think, you can't function. I KNOW because I've been there myself and I know that Kate should be left ALONE, for at the moment, her body, already weakened from weigh loss will be fighting its' own battle to keep going, to keep her baby going....

I'm shocked at all the media attention under such circumstances. The press are nothing more than a bunch of paid bullies, paid to make the lives of others hell....

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:49 AM

I am not a 'staunch royalist'; much more a believer in the "ain't broke, don't fix" principle. And our royals do seem to me to act more effectively and respectably as symbolic heads and personifications of our polity than many an elected president or such personage elsewhere.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:53 AM

Tell us what you really think, Lizzie! ;-D

Kate knew what she was getting into, far more than Diana, and she came in without all of the "she must be a virgin" nonsense. No doubt there are compensations to living in the fishbowl.

SRS

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 09:56 AM

No, Lizzie. You may have some good points, but you grossly overstate the abusive parts. The press are there to cater for the legitimate interest of a vast swathe of the populace. There is nothing reprehensible in their carrying out this popular function in a proper and respectful fashion. We are not all 'sociopathic leeches' who work in journalism and the media, you know.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:18 AM

The top headline this morning in the news on the Beeb website:

William visits Kate in hospital

Well blow me down. Bugger me sideways with a fish-hook! He visited her in hospital! Never! Can you Adam 'n' Eve it!! Phew!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:20 AM

I fear that Dexter is correct about the Duchess. She has never done a hard day's work in her life. Comment is free but facts are sacred.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:25 AM

The press are nothing more than a bunch of paid bullies, paid to make the lives of others hell....

Hmmm. Maybe, but the royals don't half make good use of 'em at times. There may be a few tittie-snapping rascals around but there are also plenty of sycophants who are more than happy to indulge and lionise these tedious people.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:28 AM

"Then may I fecking well suggest that you join William's father and do all you can too to take on The Corporate Bastards over Climate Change ... "

How do you know I'm not?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:29 AM

"No, Lizzie. You may have some good points, but you grossly overstate the abusive parts. The press are there to cater for the legitimate interest of a vast swathe of the populace. There is nothing reprehensible in their carrying out this popular function in a proper and respectful fashion. We are not all 'sociopathic leeches' who work in journalism and the media, you know."

No, they're not, Michael. They are there purely to sell papers these days. IF they truly were there for The People, then they would be SHOUTING OUT about Climate Change, about The Corporate Bastards who are fecking our planet to pieces, about the Crooked Politiicans and Corrupt Bankers, getting the people out onto the streets to take BACK their world from all these people who are doing such terrible, irreversible damage!

Instead, they are camped out on a pavement at the back of Harley St, where I used to work, waiting to get the first photo of a sick, pregnant woman leaving hospital.

They are scum, in my eyes, total scum...for the media hold The Power to unleash one hell of a lot of GOOD into this world, but they bow and kowtow to their Sociopathic bosses, who want to run the world THEIR way, dumbing down the major populations around the planet, so they can continue on with the Evil..and there is true evil being done these days..

It's way past time everyone woke up!

And IF you are still a journalist, Michael, then I politely suggest that you talk to your colleagues, and to the Man in The Mirror, because to stay silent whilst we are allowing The Few to destroy Mother Earth and our ability to live upon it, is to be Utterly Complicit in the Evil.

Get them to get BEHIND Prince Charles, to deliver his message to the world about what is going on, for he at least is fully aware that we are literally on the Brink of Catastrophe now. Instead, they are ignoring him, rubbishing him as much as they can, whilst they sit like bloody vultures, licking their lips in the hope that maybe Kate WILL lose her baby for that would sell even MORE of their bloody rags!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: theleveller
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:31 AM

Reality check!

There's a bloodbath in the Congo, Israel is trying to wipe out the Palestinians, the British press is in the deepest shit ever, this unspeakable government is ruining the lives of millions of our citizens and you lot are waffling on about some woman none of you know getting pregnant.

D'you know, sometimes I fucking despair of the human race.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:45 AM

IF they truly were there for The People, then they would be SHOUTING OUT about Climate Change, about The Corporate Bastards who are fecking our planet to pieces, about the Crooked Politiicans and Corrupt Bankers, getting the people out onto the streets to take BACK their world from all these people who are doing such terrible, irreversible damage!
Instead, they are camped out on a pavement at the back of Harley St, where I used to work, waiting to get the first photo of a sick, pregnant woman leaving hospital.
.,,.,..,
No "instead" about it Lizzie. You do tend to be a bit of an 'either/or' merchant, if I may say so. They are doing both. They always do. There is never a time when a paper exclusively covers just a single item of news. This morning's Times, for instance, gives as much space to the forthcoming report on Nursing, and on The Leveson Report, and on the new Girl Guide oath, and on abuse in Rochdale, as to the Royal story; which, I repeat, is a matter of great interest to a vast demotic who have as much right to have their legitimate interests catered for by the press as do the Climate Change worriers and any other interest group.

I'm a bit old at 80 to be still a very active journo, tho I still do a certain amount of theatre reviewing for an online Shakespeare journal; and I never did work for the Mirror: my main outlets were The Times and The Guardian, way back when... So I am sorry not to be in a position right now to pass on your message personally.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:49 AM

and you lot are waffling on about some woman none of you know getting pregnant.

Oi, at least I'm trying to antiwaffle! :-)

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 10:59 AM

I sort of imagine that William and Kate, (if I may be so familiar), probably wish all the hooha would go away too.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 11:05 AM

I'm not a Climate Change 'worrier' Michael, I am a Climate Change REALIST. There is a huge difference.

We stand at the crossroads of our children's futures.
NOTHING else really matters, to be honest, for ALL will pale into total insignificance if we do not change the way we are living, the way we view life and the reasons for our place upon Mother Earth.

We are the most fecked up species of ALL species upon this planet..and if we were watching another species behaving as we are, we would, no doubt, annihilate them, for to leave such a Species 'in charge' who have become so utterly selfish, so stupid and so uncaring is...INSANITY!

Yes, I am a black or white person...
Right now, I know that 99% of what is in our media is crap.
Right now, I know that unless that changes and The Word IS got out there BIGTIME, then as a species...we are lost, and we will take hundreds of thousands of totally *innocent* species down with us...

But hey, Kate's pregnant, right, and with a bit of luck, for the media, she may lose her child and then they can drone on and on and pretend how fecking upset they are, when ALL they are doing to her at the moment is stressing her out even more, not caring a jot about her weight loss or her inner soul....

I am deeply ashamed of people who call themselves journalists, who remain Complicit by their Silence in what is happening around us....

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 11:18 AM

Some trolls don't know what they're talking about Marriage to Catholic

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 11:24 AM

I didn't say YOU were a 'worrier', Lizzie. Describe your view of the matter as you will. And I have demonstrated, by ref to one of this morning's papers, that journos are not 'silent' about other important matters & issues, but have just as much to say about them as about HRH's pregnancy. But when you assert of one of your own particular pet obsessions that "NOTHING else really matters", I think it would appear to any fair & objective observer to be your own tendentiousness and lack of balance that you demonstrate, not those of any member of my former profession.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Bill D
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 11:33 AM

Marriage to Catholics? I believe that the good Vicar of Bray will perform marriages to anyone. ☺

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 11:57 AM

Then read another paper

With saturation coverage, which other paper do you suggest? The Times and the Telegraph will be just as gushing and sycophantic as the Sun and the Mirror.


DC

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:01 PM

As far as I can see the proposal is to let the monarch marry a Catholic but the monarch themselves still couldn't be Catholic. Hence if the hypothetical couple had a child they would have to choose between the succession or the Catholic faith. Irrespective of what stance the Catholic church takes there seems no good reason why a Catholic couldn't be titular head of the Anglican Church as it is only symbolic anyway. She is already a Presbyterian after all as well as an Anglican!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:05 PM

Not so, Doug ~~ I repeat what I wrote to Lizzie a few posts back

-This morning's Times, for instance, gives as much space to the forthcoming report on Nursing, and to The Leveson Report, and to the new Girl Guide oath, and to abuse in Rochdale, as to the Royal story.-

Why not just look at some of the papers before being so needlessly and inaccurately assertive?

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:19 PM

You could just change the channel. Look, if we can put up with hearing about Kim Kardashian and Honey Boo Boo, you can surely put up with hearing about the Royals.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:21 PM

Is 2012. You can read the news on youe iPhone, Kindle or computer and have what you don't like filtered out.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:24 PM

Most of this thread is quite amusing apart from MLC's usual drivel.

I wonder how like Major Hewitt the child will look and whether it will be ginger.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:29 PM

Why should it, Richard? Even if there were any truth in that canard, which is highly questionable, it wasn't Wills but his bro Harry of whom that silly tale was told.

You are often a bit of a silly old thing, RB, but you don't usually get your facts so completely confused.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:33 PM

It's quite amusing, also, to listen to the super-saturation of the news with angst-ridden stuff like can it be queen if it's a girlie and she has brothers and can it marry a Catholic and what would that mean cos the queer old dean is after all head of the proddydogs' brigade. Oh yes, there will have to be laws all right! Thank God we haven't got any wars or global financial meltdowns anywhere to worry about.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:34 PM

Even if there were any truth in that canard, which is highly questionable

Stop trying to duck the question.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:38 PM

I'm not, Steve: I am answering the question, pointing out that it is misplaced since it refers to another prince than the one who is the topic of this thread. Richard has got his princes mixed.

If that isn't an answer to his question, what is? You are as confused as he is. Pretty pair of gibberers you make.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 12:51 PM

At last! Something Liz and I can agree on - The press cause lots of damage. Now, if only we could agree that the internet, being unregulated and much more open to abuse, does lots more damage that the press ever have! If that happens then maybe, just maybe, we will see a drop in the number of cut and pastes from crap internet articles?

Back to the post. I am not a royalist but I would wish them no harm. Good luck to them and their offspring and I hope all turns out OK. Maybe when he gets to the throne he will apologise to the Native Americans for invading them?

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:17 PM

For Christ's sake, Michael. Canard-duck. Never mind, The moment has passed.

And good ol' sycophant-in-chief Nicholas Witchell. He's loving every minute. Ah, where would we all be without Nick and his seriarse royal reporter's mush at a time like this!!

Anyway, I hope that the good duchess is being treated better in her hospital than Ann Clwyd's poor husband was in his.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-20597738

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 01:21 PM

Oh ~~ duck the question.

Sorry, Steve. I'm slow tonight. Put it down to old age!

LoL belatedly but sincerely!

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 05:35 PM

So, Mendelian genetics being what it is, and if the explanation of Harry's resemblance to Hewitt is another branch of the Spencer family then if this child is another ginger clone of Hewitt, the probabiiity of Harry being a bastard reduces...

Do try to keep up, I know it's hard at your age. You wish.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 05:41 PM

They have tests you know. If Chuck ain't complaining, it's not our business.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: gnu
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:23 PM

Ya know, these shit on Her Royal Majesty threads have been done to death. I do not feel the slightest urge to explain yet again why Betty owns yer ass and why yer lucky she does. Read some history. Watch a parade. Watch a Royal wedding or a Jubilee fer goodness sakes! Ya know when all those planes flying over and those boats sailing down the river? Who do you think OWNS them planes and boats and guns and nuclear weapons?

Kinda like a drunk telling the bouncer he is gonna stay at the pub after he's been asked to leave politely. Give yer heads a shake and see if they rattle. Or defy the bouncer and get yer heads rattled. 1066... 1066... read some history and tell me wins for and losses against the Crown. Go ahead and tell the bouncer yer gonna have another ale. See what happens.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:31 PM

Don't really follow the last post. What relevance is 1066? Surely that was fought over who should win the English crown rather than the crown against anyone else? What is the point being made?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 06:42 PM

There isn't much point to this thread now.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: gnu
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:06 PM

The point is, England has been England since 1066... take on all comers and took that all over the world. The "English" have been top dog since 1066. And they still are. If you disagree, read a newspaper.

Is what they did "right"? That don't matter. Not to the top dog. Thus, my point. Don't bark at the big dog. It will chew your ass. Seems simple to me.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:30 PM

"England has been England since 1066" Well if you are referring to the 'Kingdom of England' then it existed prior to 1066 and ceased to exist as a seperate kingdom over 300 years ago. All by the by. I still don't understand your point. You don't need to be a monarchist to be English!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 07:40 PM

Michael, the crops have failed due to the floods. They will be bringing vegetables in from abroad this winter as we don't have any here in the UK.

In the USA the crops have failed due to droughts..We'll feel the full brunt of what this actually means next year...

Meanwhile, out in the Arctic....
Meanwhile, out in the Rainforest....

And all the fecking press can do is report on a young woman who is sick and pregnant, whilst continuing to harrass her, or they are discussing....wait for it...the new Girl Guide's oath???????

No, that's not OK with me, not OK in any way at all.

Chief Raoni, now in his 80s, is in France at present, trying to stop the Belo Monte Dam, yet again, and save more and more of the Rainforest...The French have many companies employed in building Belo Monte...yet not a single British Newspaper is covering his visit...

They SHOULD have Chief Raoni's photo and story all over their front pages, for he is fighting for us ALL and has been doing so for over 30 years now, but hey, he's not cool enough in the eyes of The Journalists!

Yeesh!!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Dec 12 - 08:07 PM

In the immortal words of someone whose wisdom I cherish: You people "could F**k up a wet dream."

The birth of a child is an event to celebrate. May this baby be healthy, happy and long lived. May he or she understand the potential life has given him/her for achieving great things and respect it.
Be happy, little one. Little else matters.

Auntie SINS

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 01:12 AM

Lizzie ~~ Does it ever occur to you that what is, or is not, OK with Your Lizzieness might just not be the absolute sole and unique universal criterion of acceptability?

Just asking.

Luvya-justa-same

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 01:38 AM

Those fuckers!!

GfS

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 02:55 AM

Well hell..100!

GfS

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 03:33 AM

>>>"Lizzie ~~ Does it ever occur to you that what is, or is not, OK with Your Lizzieness might just not be the absolute sole and unique universal criterion of acceptability?"<<<

Ain't no Stepford Wife, Michael....I'm a woman with strong opinions..if that pisses you off, look in the mirror, don't bring it to me...

Thank you
:0)

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 04:33 AM

Yes, Lizzie, you are most definitely morally and spiritually superior to the rest of us poor excuses for human beings!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:08 AM

Can't quite see, though Lizzie, how looking in the mirror should help to unpiss me off.

Perhaps you would care too elucidate.

On 2nd thoughts, perhaps you wouldn't!!!!

☺〠☺~M~☺〠☺

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 05:35 AM

The face you will see staring back at you is the one who, apparently, seems to have a problem with a woman having strong opinions...

It won't be my face looking back at you, for I'm standing to the side, ranting and raging about the state of the planet and that most journalists are happy to abide by The Rulings Of Their Corporate Bastard Owners and keep The Truth truly hidden from the now Dumbed-Down-Masses.

Which is more important to you?
A planet which is dying due to Human Greed and Insanity
Or, a sick, pregnant young woman who is being hounded by journalists who have *chosen* to be Complicit in this farce?

Give me The Journalist who puts Polly Higgins in their main story!
Give me The Journalist who galvanizes the entire population into getting behind Polly and her Team to make The Law of Ecocide a REALITY, for THEN we will legally be able to crush The Corporate Bastards as never before, although WHY we have to wait until it's all legal I've no idea, because with what they are doing at present, we should ALL be out there on the streets, globally, taking Mother Earth back into OUR hands and decimating the Insane Bastards who are tearing apart our planet....and taking away our Children's Futures and those of ALL generations who may, or now, who may not, come after them!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Concerned of Whitby
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 07:03 AM

Lizzie I think after reading your rants I want to go out and shoot a Panda just for spite!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 08:38 AM

"Which is more important to you?
A planet which is dying due to Human Greed and Insanity
Or, a sick, pregnant young woman who is being hounded by journalists who have *chosen* to be Complicit in this farce?"

Hear, bloody hear. The only reason we're being subjected to this crap is because royal = newspaper sales.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:46 AM

I am always amused and nauseated in about equal measure by the way that doctrinaire egalitarians like OW simultaneously hold the masses in contempt. "Royal = newspaper sales", quite simply, because millions of perfectly respectable citizens, who have just as much right to have their legal and legitimate tastes met as has the great OW, wish to read about them ~~ a taste which brings on their innocent heads the contempt and scorn of such as the we-are-all-equal-but-I-am-oh-so-superior OW.

The contempt of the leftie for those he purports to represent is invariably infinite.

Pass the sick-bag, please.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:10 AM

Sick bag? What's the matter M? Are you suffering from morning sickness? For the past several years I have had to put up with chronic cattarh, which the doctors can't find an explanation for, and which has me vomitting up huge gobs of phlegm every morning for about twenty minutes.

Sick bags? Don't talk to me about sick bags?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:12 AM

I of course did not know that, and much regret any inadvertent distress I have caused by my comment, Owen. I sincerely wish you better health.

~Michael~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:34 AM

I once met Polly Higgins and was very impressed with her concept of ecocide. Then one day I wrote to her, merely to supply her with some information. I got a letter back from one of her staff, saying that she was too busy to reply!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:50 AM

If you really think, Lizzie, that I am scared of you ("have problems with you") because you are a "strong woman", then let me assure you, with all possible moderation, that you are deluded and mistaken.

All best regards

~Michael~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: theleveller
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 01:54 PM

Well, it looks like Kate's not the only one who got fucked - Osborne's shafted us all and I, for one, am feeling pretty sick.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 02:05 PM

Then welcome to the Club, leveller!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 02:34 PM

The shit that some people espouse is enough to make anyone sick! Hopefuly Kate doesn't read this though. There's only us daft enough to keep ploughing through the same old tripe.

Go for it though. I can take it. I am pretty strong too ;-)

DtG

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 02:35 PM

The contempt of the leftie for those he purports to represent is invariably infinite.

Hmm. Well, it wouldn't be variably infinite, would it? Unless you mean "The contempt of the leftie for those he purports to represent is, invariably, infinite."

And I sincerely hope that you're not using "the leftie" in the generic sense there, in the way that the apartheid leaders would talk about "the black man". We don't all hold our fellow lefties in contempt, you know.

Pedantically yours

Steve "leftie" Shaw

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 09:27 PM

As the Pope begins as a Tweeter he wades into the discussion:
Pope

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bring on the republic
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 10:43 PM

Thalidomide, a drug developed to help women overcome the symptoms of morning sickness during pregnancy, is first marketed in West Germany. Forty-six countries approve its use before thalidomide's terrible side effects become apparent.
Thalidomide is a powerful synthetic tranquilizer, originally developed by Ciba, a Swiss pharmaceutical company. Unable to make it commercially profitable, Ciba gave up on the drug. A German company, Chemie Gruenenthal, took over and eventually began marketing thalidomide as a "completely safe" method for warding off morning sickness.

Completely safe for the royal family.
Look at the state they're in already.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Dec 12 - 11:00 PM

LOL, thanks for the cartoon link, Sandy.

Auntie SINS,,,exactly!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 02:23 PM

Catherine has been discharged from hospital. I'm wondering if she didn't have the Winter Vomiting Bug (Norovirus) which is sweeping the country at the moment. My sister had it last week and you vomit ceaselessly for about 36 hours. If so, she should be fine for the rest of her pregnancy. People are now saying that perhaps it might be best for Charles to stand down as the heir, as a young couple with children would be better as King and Queen when HM passes away. I have mixed feelings about this.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 03:43 PM

I have strong feelings. They should all stand down and the country should use their ill-gotten wealth to reduce the deficit instead of hitting people on benefits, who did nothing to cause the problem. Actually given Charlie's short stature, if he stood down wouldn't he disappear altogether?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:20 PM

I saw him quite recently at the Sandringham Flower Show, and was surprised that he's actually taller in the flesh than on TV. Believe it or not, he's also quite handsome, as he always looks awful in photos and on The News. But for some reason, I don't take to him or Camilla. Just an impression.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:23 PM

Prince Charles is actually 5'10". Whence this rumour that he is a short man? Some people would rather believe silly stories than use their own eyes!

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:49 PM

Shimrod, this may astound you but Polly IS busy, because she's trying to get The Law of Ecocide pushed through, travelling all over the world to rustle up support, giving talks, writing books etc...

I'm in contact with her team via Facebook and they're all good people. I promote Polly's talks/pages a great deal and have, just this evening been putting links about her on my page and also Raoni's page which I run as well..

As I write, I've just been told Chief Raoni, Megaron and Bemoro are all in The Netherlands...I have the greatest respect for Chief Raoni, who, despite being in his 80s now has travelled out, yet again, from his Rainforest home, first to France, now the Netherlands and possibly Germany too, (waiting to hear on this one) to try to Wake The World to the dangers we are all facing...

OHHHH! How I WISH the bloody media would have Chief Raoni on ALL their front pages!!!!

And as I write this the howling winds are yet again hitting my windows here with great force...

We're in deep shite folks...I tend to tell it like it is, rather than skirt around it, for we don't have much time to turn this all around...and as our Leaders, unlike Raoni, give sod all about Mother Earth and everything for Continuous Fecking Growth, it seems to me we may have even less time than many of us assume......


Oh..and they interviewd the bloke in Sidmouth who lost half his cliff top garden to the sea a few years back, and he was saying he thought there was around 1,000 years left before his garden and house would have disappeared into the sea. Now, he reckons it will be around 30 years..and there are calls to protect one side of Sidmouth from the raging tides, for there are grave fears that a large part of the town will soon be flooded....

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:49 PM

"People are now saying that perhaps it might be best for Charles to stand down as the heir, as a young couple with children would be better as King and Queen when HM passes away."

One of the polls showed that only 48% of people in the UK think that Charles should automatically inherit the throne on the Queen's death. Of course he will inherit it as he is first in line. It isn't an election.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 05:53 PM

Actually I got that wrong it is even worse for Charles. Only 39% thought he should inherit it. 48% thought William should! ICM poll earlier this year

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Dec 12 - 11:33 PM

But, as Allan says, it doesn't matter at all what polls say. Our monarchy is hereditary, not elective.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 12:32 AM

Carol Midgley, in her yesterday's Times2 opinion piece, devoted a column headed "That's enough baby talk" to how fed up she is already with all the royal baby stuff, echoing much that has been so predictably said by all the usual-suspect miseries on this thread.

More than one way for a journo to cash in on the occasion, eh?

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 01:45 PM

What price would all the Royalists like to place on the life of Jacintha Saldanha who has seemingly taken her own life.

My sister committed suicide, I saw close up and first hand the devastation it caused to my parents and to the rest of our family.

No doubt you will all blame the media hacks who phoned the hospital, or blame the naive nurse who answered their queries.

I can also guess that not a single one of you will blame the stupid merry-go-round that surrounds the idiocy that is the sycophantic following of the "Royal" Family.

Sleep well Jacintha.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 01:55 PM

Well I'm an anti-royalist and I understand that sentiment well, but I think we'd better be careful for a little while before we decide who to "blame."

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:13 PM

I'm not a royalist (or an anti-royalist for that matter) but I think it's a bit daft to try and blame the royal family itself for this....on a par with blaming Thatcher for every economic error of the Brown government.

If it wasn't royals it'd be some other celebrity who was the "target of the week" for the media...and the media wouldn't do it if they didn't sell more papers by doing it.

(remember the "hilarious" Russell Brand/ Jonathan Ross prank phone call to Andrew Sachs?)

So, if you want to take it to its logical "Spartist" conclusion, "we are all guilty" as the go-ahead Reverend Dr Spacely-Trellis might have said.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:14 PM

Steve, you're probably correct, but even now 36 after the event on September 18th 1976 I can still see the ragged faces of my parents.

Mum is still with us thankfully, aged 88, but I doubt there is a single day goes past without her thinking of the daughter she lost.

If it were not for the hysteria that surrounds the Windors this woman may still be alive with the love and support of a family herself.

One can only surmise.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:17 PM

Bu we don't actually know why she did this, or even if it was in fact suicide. I have every sympathy with you and your family, Raggytash; however we should perhaps wait and see what really happened here.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:21 PM

Ron Naylor, please do me some credit. At NO point have I suggested that the "Royal" family are at fault. Please read my thread, I suggested that the stupid merry-go-round that surrounds them was perhaps at fault, nothing more.

You also need to understand that I have very personal feelings regarding suicide, that perhaps, thankfully, many do not.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 02:32 PM

Raggytash, you have mail! :-)

When a close relative of mine was in hospital a few years ago, there was no way that anyone except one designated person, who the hospital had to agree to, could get any information about him at all, either by telephone or in person. They would talk only to his wife, unless she, in person, had given express permission for them to talk to another family member. Had that eminently sensible protocol been in place at the hospital where the Duchess was treated, there is no way that anyone, even someone claiming to be the Queen, could have got past the switchboard.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 03:50 PM

You would think there would be way more layers of safety built in...that would be SOP for even an ordinary citizen, much less a celebrity or royal family etc. I think her security needs can not be met at that hospital and I would look into military hospitals if there are such in the area. Secure her first, arrange for good equipment to be there and bring in top doctors, but don't put her in a place where security is so lax.

Anyway, here is the story about the nurse..terrible tragedy...she apparently did not give out the information but put the call through to the nursing station...but why would you give out information to parents anyway? mg

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 03:54 PM

Here is a sentence I would like to offer to all British hospitals which could easily prevent this sort of thing in future.

"Would your Majesty like to ask the father?"

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 08:06 PM

Yes Jack. The Aussie DJs are getting it in the neck, and maybe they should (though I can't help feeling that they didn't expect in a million years to get past the switchboard), but the hospital was very lax in allowing the call to get through to the ward. There should have been far stricter security procedures in place than was apparently the case. But let's see what comes out about this poor nurse. When someone kills themselves it's easy to look around for blame. Those of us who have first-hand experience know how destructive that is. The one person who could clear up the reasons for us isn't here any more. Worth remembering before we get too judgemental.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 08:08 PM

Looks like I'm having a go at you slightly there, Jack. That was not what I intended at all.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bring on the republic
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 10:02 PM

Fatal case of sycophancy.
Did she curtsey herself to death?
Inherited privilege, divine right of kings etc.
What a crock of shit.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: gnu
Date: 07 Dec 12 - 10:24 PM

GUEST,Bring on the republic... 2 posts in less than an hour. Only posts you ever posted at Mudcat. Unless you post under other names but that will eventually be examined by the mods. Troll em if ya got em, eh?... while ya can.

Do you really think you can keep this shit up?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 01:20 AM

She was assassinated by MI6 to make the royal breeding program immune to criticism?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bring on the republic
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 01:27 AM

BAN ALL JOKES AND PRANKS

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Backwoodsman sans Cookie
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 01:42 AM

Better still, BAN ALL GUEST POSTINGS IN BS.
Fuck the trolls Right Royally.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 03:59 AM

"(though I can't help feeling that they didn't expect in a million years to get past the switchboard"

You wouldn't expect to get past the switchboard which is mabye the point. I heard the call the other day and you can hear the guy sniggering in disbelief saying something like "they're not actually putting us through". They knew very well that there was no way they should be put through but didn't care as long as they got their laugh!! No-one could have expected this to happen but they must have known (if they have at least half a brain) that at the very least the aftermath would put the nurses under pressure and perhaps even put their jobs, or someone else's, at risk. Prank calls as entertainment is all very well but the point is there has to be a line. When you start messing with people's jobs you've crossed it.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 04:11 AM

This case reminds me of the Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand stupid and outrageous 'prank' where they made phone calls which upset and horrified the recipient, sniggering all the while. Schoolboy silliness, but in grown adults, much more deplorable.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 04:51 AM

Whilst the DJs must take some of the responsibility for the death of this poor woman, the consequence of their action was totally unforseen. I would suggest that more responsibility lies with the pressure from the press, the snotty hospital trying to protect its reputation, the formidable Windsor PR machine and the public for its vicarious and onanistic interest in this disfunctional family.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: theleveller
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 05:20 AM

Above was me - someone nicked my cookie.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 06:06 AM

You wouldn't expect to get past the switchboard which is mabye the point. I heard the call the other day and you can hear the guy sniggering in disbelief saying something like "they're not actually putting us through". They knew very well that there was no way they should be put through but didn't care as long as they got their laugh!! No-one could have expected this to happen but they must have known (if they have at least half a brain) that at the very least the aftermath would put the nurses under pressure and perhaps even put their jobs, or someone else's, at risk. Prank calls as entertainment is all very well but the point is there has to be a line. When you start messing with people's jobs you've crossed it.

Agreed, but in the context of media interference in innocent people's lives this is just one more incidence of it among thousands. The tragic development has made this one all the more newsworthy. Just watch the junk media feed on it, doubtless revelling in indignant hypocrisy.

Whilst the DJs must take some of the responsibility for the death of this poor woman...

They are not responsible for the death of the nurse. They are responsible for playing a misplaced prank of the sort that almost never ends in a tragedy like this. I agree with the rest of what you say.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 06:23 AM

I agree Steve the media are hypocrites. They think nothing of hounding people without regard to how it affects the individual.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: theleveller
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 06:38 AM

Well, I sort of agree with you, Steve - bit like blaming the iceberg for the sinking of the Titanic.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Mooh
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 07:55 AM

Without even considering the tragic decision of someone to take her own life, a prank call to interrupt front line health care workers just seems stupid and irresponsible to me. Hospitals have better things to do than answer prank calls. It's bad enough that society seems to think it's okay to interrupt just anyone's life with needless and irritating phone calls, but to distract health care workers in their important work is dumb. This isn't Bart Simpson calling the local pub, this is a radio show trying to get a laugh out of harassing and victimizing a hospital and its workers. This is an otherwise legitimate business (radio station) lacking judgement, behaving like a juvenile bully, then excusing itself.

When was it ever okay to make prank calls, especially to a hospital?

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,BrendanB lost cookie
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 08:03 AM

While you cannot foresee all the effects of your actions this does not exonerate you from accepting responsibility for the consequences. Given that the nurse would still be alive if this prank had not been perpetrated the radio station, 2dayfm, is responsible for her death, albeit unintentionally. This IMO is made worse by the statement from the radio station that it had not broken any laws, in spite of the the fact that they did not get their permission to broadcast the nurses, even though this is a requirement in Australia.
It will be interesting to see whether 2dayfm actually do anything to show that they recognise they have any responsibility for the results of their pranks.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: theleveller
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 10:19 AM

Sorry Brendan, I think that's a much too simplistic way of looking at it. Are you saying that the pressure put on this nurse after the event had no part to play?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Mooh
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 10:35 AM

So a nurse goes to work one day to do her selfless helpful duty to society and by the end of her shift she's internationally known as "that nurse" who is ridiculed, objectified, and stigmatized by her own and other societies around the world. By virtue of the fact that the media sensationalized the story she'd be forever unable to shake the image.

I bet when she decided to become a nurse, none of this was in her mind. Exposure to all manner of illness and human failings, yes. Bullied by foreign hooligans, no.

My bet is she made the decision to leave this life at a very low moment, decidedly not of her making. She was praised as a good nurse. It's a shame the world will have one less good nurse when we need many more.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 11:20 AM

While you cannot foresee all the effects of your actions this does not exonerate you from accepting responsibility for the consequences.

To accept responsibility is one thing. To have it thrust on you is another matter. Those doing the thrusting had better be sure of themselves first.

Given that the nurse would still be alive if this prank had not been perpetrated the radio station, 2dayfm, is responsible for her death, albeit unintentionally.

You must be the only person in the world who knows, as yet, that, but for this, she would still be alive. And the radio station is responsible for allowing two DJs to carry out a stupid prank. That's about it. Stupid, irresponsible, misguided, we can probably all agree. But a prank of the type that almost never develops into this type of tragedy. There would be lots of things we'd hold back from doing if we all had a crystal ball. You are being far too judgemental far too early.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: selby
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 11:20 AM

If you have never worked shifts you will not know how your body is at such a low ebb, the tiniest things become massive problems in your world, most night workers will tell you there families all keep a low profile when you are on nights.
I just feel sad that the nurse could not ride the issue and feel for the other nurse who was with her. Most normal human beings should feel saddened by this event does anyone give a thought how Wills and Kate feel as a young couple full of joy at their first child having this issue around this is not about privilege, the two young DJ's who got some dynamite but then where allowed to continue by lawyers. This is a very sad day for everyone involved.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 01:46 PM

A letter from the Manager of the hospital to the radio station was read out this morning on BBC News. I agreed with his point that the most appalling thing was the station's decision to allow the conversation to continue to be broadcast after the event. Instead of heads rolling, they were happy to compound the mischief. 'The Media' needs to have its standards revised and stricter codes of conduct applied. This isn't curtailing freedom of the Press, merely instilling common decency into their activities (and IMO into society as a whole.)

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 02:19 PM

This is absolutely appalling. I hope the shites responsible are feeling pretty damned ashamed of themselves.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: theleveller
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 02:42 PM

"by the end of her shift she's internationally known as "that nurse" who is ridiculed, objectified, and stigmatized by her own and other societies around the world."

But who was it who decided to release her identity? She was an unwitting participant so why identify her?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: gnu
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 02:57 PM

An immigration issue? Well, someone NOW laden with this icident may have been pushed over the edge by the public mischief of these twits. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Simply, a parked car cannot hit anyone. It can only BE hit. She took a hit.

I thought prank calls were a form of harrassment, a punishable offense?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 03:01 PM

The idea that a health professional would kill herself over passing on a phone call without herself divulging any information is silly and insulting to her memory. STOP SPECULATING ABOUT IT!!! The whole story will come out eventually. Or it won't. TALK ABOUT IT THEN. Or don't.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 04:22 PM

I feel a bit annoyed that the hospital in question has come out with guns a-blazin' about the radio station. The fact is that this prank should have gone belly-up within seconds of the phone being picked up. That it didn't is squarely down to the utterly rotten security protocol of the hospital. When my friend was in hospital in Exeter, there was no way that anyone other than the one person delegated to receive information about him could have got past the switchboard. Only with the express permission of that person and the agreement of the ward would have allowed anyone else to find out anything about him.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 04:24 PM

Was that a with too far?

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: gnu
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 05:13 PM

JtS... yer right. My bad. I let my emotions get the best of me at the worst of times. Thanks for waking me up.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 05:22 PM

All true about the 'delegated person', Steve. But you can see why the nurse on the switchboard might have thought it would be OK to make an exception if she really thought it was the Queen calling. Even with your well-known views, would you argue with the Queen or tell her to shove off? Honest, now!

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bring on the republic
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 05:33 PM

Why the rush to announce that death was a suicide?
Out of respect for the deceased and their family authorities usually wait until after the inquest before jumping to that conclusion.

Religious views on suicide

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Dec 12 - 07:06 PM

No, Michael. Do have a little think about it.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 12:35 AM

"Little think" about what, Steve?

I ask you whether you would refuse a request from HM; you reply "No" & then tell me to "Think about it"...

Again, about what? Clarify your response, please.

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bring on the republic
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 12:58 AM

swMbo!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bring on the republic
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 01:06 AM

SUICIDE!
yeah
right
whatever!

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 03:48 AM

Its just another Australian
Who thinks that he's a card.
Like them what throw their cricket balls.
At our lads - very hard.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 05:48 AM

NO meant I disagreed with you, Michael. Right, you're on a hospital switchboard and you get an inane call in a stupid accent claiming to come from Her Maj.(did you actually listen to that call?) Your first reaction, and mine too, probably, would have been to say "Queen where of? Sheba?"

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 06:04 AM

I agree that, with a bit of thought, anyone would realise that the Queen would be most unlikely to make her own calls, but would have an aide or a lady-in-waiting get thru for her, & then, if she wished to speak personally, would have the phone handed over to her. But what we had here was a harrassed switchboard operator in a busy hospital, who, knowing there was a member of the royal family in the hospital, might well not have thought things thru as rationally in the heat of the moment as the egregiously ever-rational you or I, Steve, might have done in similar circumstances. Possible scenario perhaps?

~M~

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 06:12 AM

It was 5.30 in the morning, not exactly a busy time on the switchboard, and the hospital is an exclusive private job, not a harassed-to-death NHS hospital. No excuse.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Penny S.
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 06:20 AM

Steve, while that protocol sounds good, I have knowledge of one case where a hospital was very ready not only to confirm the presence of someone on their wards, but to put a person through and wake the patient to take the call, when that person had not been informed by anyone of the illness, the hospital admission, or even which part of the country the hospital was in. The patient was found only by chance, after an appalling search in another part of the country after regular phone calls had stopped, and the person calling could only prove relationship by knowing the birthdate.

I suspect there may be a certain amount of discretion allowed.

I also wonder if the nurse had a good an ear for accents.

It is an appalling story. I'm waiting for the full details. It doesn't seem consistent in what we have been told.

Penny

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Megan L
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 06:33 AM

I wonder if it is something to do with the average age of posters to mudcat that it seems so full of embittered nasty posts.

It is old men full of hatred that send young men to die.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,big Al Whittle
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 07:49 AM

as shakespeare said:-

For the Pom it whingeth every day....

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 11:55 AM

So, thankfully, Kate's baby, is at present OK. Thus, the Sociopathic Media lost their chance to sell millions more papers if that HADN'T been the case...

But then, Fate dealt them an even better 'deal', for Jacintha killed herself and now, they can put *her* on their front pages instead.....

And do they feel an ounce of guilt?
I would imagine, not for a moment......

Of course, they won't make the connection between their coverage of the prank phone call, nor the radio station concerned, and others, playing that phone call over and over again, GLOBALLY!

They won't stop to think for a moment that they Humiliated a loving, caring, hard-working and honest, wonderful nurse and mother, who worked long hours far from her family, and probably also enjoyed the lovely job she had in that hospital, for trust me, where it is is VERY different to where Jacintha lived in Bristol.

I've worked just round the corner from the Edward VII Hospital, when I worked in Harley Street..I'd pass it every day on my way to Marylebone High Street. I also lived near Bristol and know the area a little, where Jacintha lived...

Did they EVER stop to think that the woman who answered those stupid DJs was a very nervous human? Did they EVER stop to think that what they did would may have felt to Jacintha that she had brought great shame on her family back in India, or to her children here in this country???? Did they EVER stop to think that what was a HEADLINE for them, was a kick in the Soul to this sweet woman?

No....

And they don't give a flying fuck!

Already they are saying "This is going to be HUGE news back in India!"

Well, fuck them all!!!!

The sooner Journalism is taken to the Cleaners and washed in Biological Powder, to remove ALL those who have Stained It Beyond Belief, the better, for the occupation of Journalist sinks ever deeper into the gutter with each passing Shock Headline, put there ONLY to sell their bloody papers!!

Well, now their papers are stained with the blood and death of a woman who should be, right now, at home with her son, daughter and husband, surrounded by her friends, living her life the way she wanted to, dealing with her nerves in her own way, keeping her head above the Waterfall of Fear which may have been ever present her whole life long...

What a feckingly shitty world these bastards have created, from their Corporate Masters to the man who tiptaps out The Shit!

And now, the people who decided to play this prank are said to be on 'suicide-watch', the young woman in particular being of an anxious disposition. Well, maybe she should have thought about the anxiety of others before she stepped forward to behave in such a stupid way then take great delight, along with her colleague and the people they worked for, in humiliating another human being on a GLOBAL scale...

Honourable people often struggle deeply with the horrors others think as funny these days...Kind, loving, caring people do not understand those who will stop at nothing to gain notoriety and maybe, just maybe, Jacintha's nerves and sweet soul had got to the point where death was preferable to a life-time of being known as The Woman Who Put 'The Queen' through'

Fuck ALL those who played a part in this Tragedy of immense proportions, and who are now, even as I write, sitting with bated breath, ready to write the Next Act, knowing they'll sell even MORE papers!



'The Guardian' article on Jacintha Saldanha

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 12:35 PM

Get real. I don't agee with that article or its tone. Frankly its transparently rubbish.

It was hardly a 'cruel hoax'. This woman's reaction was hardly normal. What the hell was she doing holding a job dealing with the public.

Frankly is there anyone anywhere with the profession of dealing with the public as a teacher, policeman, receptionist, civil servant or nurse who doesn't deal with much worse every single day?

Thank gawd someone didn't fart in the lift, or she would have been climbing a tower with a machine gun.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: Allan Conn
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 01:05 PM

"It was hardly a 'cruel hoax'."

I think that is at the very least debateable. Fair dos that no-one would have expected the outcome! However the call either wouldn't work - in which case it is a waste of time and not worth airing - or it does work and ordinary working people are put under pressure to explain their failings and perhaps their jobs are at risk. Never mind the fact that a pregnant woman in hospital is put under strain knowing that folk are impesonating her family and trying to gain access to her info.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 01:39 PM

Not really allan, in a siyuation like that the jape was predictable to the point of being feeble minded.

Can you imagine if people reacted like that at the dole office where people spend all their lives dealing with people who pretend to be someone else. it would be like the Burma railway with counter staff, doing themselves in.

Subject: RE: Prince William and Kate expecting a baby
From: GUEST,Bring on the republic
Date: 09 Dec 12 - 07:58 PM

"But then, Fate dealt them an even better 'deal', for Jacintha killed herself and now, they can put *her* on their front pages instead....."

It is being repeated as a 22 carat FACT that she killed herself.
Very convenient in that the blame can now be placed on the radio DJs who had the temerity to commit a prank.
The poor royals are now the victims and the feeble minded sycophants can now fawn and grovel to their hearts content.

Neat!

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This mudelf thinks this topic has been flogged to death. And some of you should go see your mental health counselors. The thread is closed.