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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 15 Apr 13 - 09:53 AM Or a helicopter if you have enough very highly motivated people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Rapparee Date: 15 Apr 13 - 09:30 AM It's possible to defeat even a light tank with materials which might be available, but you can lose a lot of people doing it. Besides, the coordination, training, and discipline necessary for such is definitely missing among those of BOTH extremes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: kendall Date: 15 Apr 13 - 07:40 AM I get a kick out of those knuckle draggers and mouth breathers who think they can stand a chance against the military if they can just have an assault rifle with a couple of banana clips. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: sciencegeek Date: 15 Apr 13 - 03:28 AM "If it was legal for the US to leave the British Empire when they wished to, why was it illegal for the South to leave the US when THEY wished to? The only difference that I can see is that the South lost the Civil War, but the US won the Revolution (or maybe the BE had too many other wars going to spend the money and time to win it). But if that's the only difference, then law is simply a matter of superior force. In which case, each of us needs as many guns and as much ammunition as he or she can assemble." There was no United States of America that was ever a part of the British Empire. It was 13 colonies that rebelled and formed the union of states/commonwealths that was then called the USA. And gradually added new territories that later gained statehood. Texas was part of Mexico that rebelled and with help from fellow anglos in the US became an independent state that later sought admittance into the USA. Considering that Scotland and Ireland have had more than a few rebellions against "foreign rule", I'm thinking that the BE was not that wonderful for those other than the landed gentry. Since the USA is an assemblage of states with rights and responsibilities, not to mention legally binding agreements that incorporated them into the union, there is no foreign rule to rebel against. Just a bunch of sore losers who don't seem to be able to play nicely with others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Amos Date: 15 Apr 13 - 01:08 AM WHat an unmitigated oure-dee nutball, |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Don Firth Date: 15 Apr 13 - 12:32 AM I repeat. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Songwronger Date: 15 Apr 13 - 12:14 AM Obama has been symbolically linked to Lincoln by the media. If Obama is in office when a civil war starts, then we will be reminded that he is a "Lincoln figure," and Lincoln won the civil war. And now this film is being distributed on Obama's watch. A piece of fiction will be distributed by a private entity to public schools. Obama, as president, should stop it, but he won't because the distribution will enhance his Lincoln linkage. And then there's the public/private partnership angle, which all good fascists approve of. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Don Firth Date: 14 Apr 13 - 11:58 PM Pathological. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 14 Apr 13 - 11:50 PM What does this reopen have to do with Obama? Mudelfs, since 16 January came to pass with no civil war, the title is misleading. Maybe just call it Songwronger civil war thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Songwronger Date: 14 Apr 13 - 11:23 PM I knew I started a thread about Obama and a new civil war. Here it is. I find the following article disturbing: Disney will give "Lincoln" DVD to every middle, high school in U.S. The Denver Post An arm of Disney will provide a free copy of Steven Spielberg's Academy Award-nominated "Lincoln" to every middle and high school in the country when the film comes out on DVD, the entertainment giant announced Tuesday. Disney Educational Productions said the gift to the nation's schools is in conjunction with the launching of a "social action campaign" they are calling "Stand Tall: Live Like Lincoln." Along with the movie itself, Disney Educational will provide a teaching guide. In a statement, Spielberg said he received letters from teachers asking if they could use the film in classrooms. The movie, starring Daniel Day-Lewis, chronicles Lincoln's difficult final months in office and the final days of the Civil War. The announcement came on the 16th president's birthday — all but forgotten since the merge with the anniversary of George Washington's birth into Presidents Day. The massive donation is being funded by Participant Media, DreamWorks Pictures and Fox/Newscorp. A spokesman for Disney said he was unsure how much it would cost. The U.S. Department of Education estimates there are 26,407 public and 10,693 private high schools in the country. The number of middle schools is less clear. http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22575072/disney-will-give-lincoln-dvd-every-middle-high I haven't seen the movie, but I know that Disney has a long history or propagandizing. And here they're working in conjunction with Fox News to distribute a Hollywood film that will come with a "teaching guide." And what are Spielberg's politics? If he leftist, a rightie or what? This stinks, and I put the story on the "civil war" thread because we're constantly bombarded with images of Obama as Lincoln. Lincoln the war president. Lincoln the dictator. Lincoln the emancipator. We're being pushed in the direction of civil war, and now it looks like school kids are going to be propagandized by "Dreamworks" and Fox News. Disturbing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jan 13 - 06:51 AM I submit that we have no reason whatever to assume that he actually believes the stuff that he defecates here so he can watch people complain about the stench. If his IQ were slightly larger than his collar size that might be true, but it isn't. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Ron Davies Date: 19 Jan 13 - 11:29 AM "I submit..." Fine. It's interesting that some people want a thread to die--a worthy goal-- but their solution is to contribute to it. Duh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Bobert Date: 19 Jan 13 - 09:18 AM Actually, when the Founding Fathers penned the Constitution, men with guns were required to do militia training and have their weapons inspected... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: frogprince Date: 19 Jan 13 - 09:04 AM We have at least a couple of threads going here with people responding to Songtwisters sewage as if to debate against a genuine opinion; I submit that we have no reason whatever to assume that he actually believes the stuff that he defecates here so he can watch people complain about the stench. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: kendall Date: 19 Jan 13 - 06:53 AM We do have a well regulated militia. It's called the National Guard. I'm still trying to imagine an automatic flint lock.I'll bet none of the founding fathers could. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: gnu Date: 18 Jan 13 - 05:56 PM "Any reasonable person would be worried about that fact that Obama has said he can kill anyone, anytime, and not have to answer for it. And he's already killing Americans in accordance with this policy. That's what a reasonable person would be concerned about." I doubt this is at all true given that the quote above made the internut. If it was actually the case, SOMEbody needs a reprimand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: GUEST Date: 18 Jan 13 - 05:44 PM Does the USA still need a "well regulated militia"? If it doesn't what the hell is the point of the murderous free for all that currently exists in it's name? Every year America manages to kill, by gunfire, more than 9/11 managed, not just by a little but many times over and it just gets accepted as a price worth paying, why? Steve |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: artbrooks Date: 18 Jan 13 - 10:31 AM Isn't this the same 2% that he gave as a strictly time-limited tax break two years ago? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 18 Jan 13 - 10:02 AM ""Any reasonable person would be worried about that fact that Obama has said he can kill anyone, anytime, and not have to answer for it."" Any reasonable person would be more gainfully employed watching grass grow. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ""From: kendall - PM Date: 18 Jan 13 - 08:05 AM a 2% tax hike? Wow, now let's take a look at the record. Taxes under other presidents: FDR 74% LBJ 77% Clinton 39% Bush jr. 33% Nixon 70%"" Ah, but it's 2% taken off SW by a black President, and he can't live with that. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: kendall Date: 18 Jan 13 - 08:05 AM a 2% tax hike? Wow, now let's take a look at the record. Taxes under other presidents: FDR 74% LBJ 77% Clinton 39% Bush jr. 33% Nixon 70% |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Joe Offer Date: 18 Jan 13 - 01:58 AM So, Songwronger wants "undoctored" proof that Obama took the oath for his first term of office. Proof was offered, but Songwronger didn't accept it. Maybe this video will suffice as the desired proof. Then again, probably not. Has anybody EVER been able to furnish "proof" that a conspiracy theorist would consider acceptable? -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Ebbie Date: 18 Jan 13 - 12:48 AM Thou art a silly man. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:58 PM Any reasonable person would be worried about that fact that Obama has said he can kill anyone, anytime, and not have to answer for it. And he's already killing Americans in accordance with this policy. That's what a reasonable person would be concerned about. At any rate, you know there's no proof that Obama took that oath. Thus endeth the Fable of the Two Oaths. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Ron Davies Date: 17 Jan 13 - 10:02 PM "real undoctored proof"--i.e. something you will accept as proof. Why does that appear to be the ultimate black hole of time? Sorry, any reasonable person has a few better things to do: like make music, read---or anything else. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:52 PM So offer me real, undoctored proof that Obama took his oath of office for the presidency. Why present an audio of the "second swearing in" alongside a photo of him with his hand raised? He never took the oath of office. Someone prove otherwise. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Bobert Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:39 PM Yes, of course Obama started the Civil War... It was just a few year after he ordered up the Mexican War and many years before he kidnapped the Limbergh baby... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:23 PM Calling a sheep a dog will not make the sheep bark. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:18 PM Ducking the legal liability of that oath would be worth a few hours work, don't you think? Look at how many trillions Obama has been able to channel to his banking buddies by ignoring the constitution. Obama's supposed to have been a law perfessor, and Roberts is the head of the Supreme Court. A few simple words, spoken by Roberts and then repeated by Obama, and they couldn't achieve that? The swearing in was "flubbed" for a reason, and then we were presented with a bogus audio tape. Why wasn't the second swearing in filmed? Everything else that King Obama did on that day was. Why go behind closed door to do the "real" swearing in? It never occurred. Obama violates the constitution openly now because he never took an oath to serve it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:53 PM Sure, the second oath of office is faked. After all, it would be SO much easier to hire some audio engineer to spend hours splicing sound-bites together to create a fake tape than it would be for Roberts and Obama to spend a few seconds saying the words again. And then, of course, they had to have the audio engineer murdered so he'd never tell the truth. Took him out in the desert in Nevada and let Obama practice his drone strike skills on the poor guy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Don Firth Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:56 PM Silly! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:50 PM That's no video, that's audio. Easily faked. There are news stories about audio faking capabilities being demonstrated on Colin Powell, and... You wouldn't believe me, so here it is: When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing Monday, Feb. 1, 1999 "Gentlemen! We have called you together to inform you that we are going to overthrow the United States government." So begins a statement being delivered by Gen. Carl W. Steiner, former Commander-in-chief, U.S. Special Operations Command. At least the voice sounds amazingly like him. But it is not Steiner. It is the result of voice "morphing" technology developed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. By taking just a 10-minute digital recording of Steiner's voice, scientist George Papcun is able, in near real time, to clone speech patterns and develop an accurate facsimile. Steiner was so impressed, he asked for a copy of the tape. Steiner was hardly the first or last victim to be spoofed by Papcun's team members. To refine their method, they took various high quality recordings of generals and experimented with creating fake statements. One of the most memorable is Colin Powell stating "I am being treated well by my captors." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm Obama didn't take any oath of office. It'll be interesting to see how they handle the situation this time around. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: artbrooks Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:21 PM Retake video Twid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: irishenglish Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:12 PM Wrong-he did say the official words, or perhaps the complexity of my argument made you miss the fact. Oh but wait, it really wasn't that complex. Your thoughts are clear....spew your hate somewhere else. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Songwronger Date: 17 Jan 13 - 06:06 PM yeah yeah yeah. The truth hurts. So, were you at the alleged second swearing in, irishenglish? Please refer me to the video clip of that second, successful attempt. If you didn't say the words, you didn't take the oath. Obama never said the words. Then later, Judge Roberts "surprised" everyone by breaking with his "conservative views" and casting the deciding vote for the unconstitutional Obamacare crapola. You folks have been making excuses for Obama for far too long now. He's working against your interests. Doesn't matter if he's Dem/Rep, black/white, whatever. He's bad for you, personally, and for the nation. Enjoy his 2% tax hike, by the way. Should be on this week's paycheck. More on the way, too. King Obama says we need to fight austerity. I think that's what one of his vacation press releases said. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: irishenglish Date: 17 Jan 13 - 05:52 PM I haven't posted in donkey's years but this gem from the first post can't go unmentioned in my book- Of course, that would be a violation of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but then he never really swore to uphold that constitution. He and judge Roberts did the worst piece of theater in history when they "accidentally flubbed" Obama's swearing in, so technically he never took the oath. He's not required to abide by the constitution. Which is false because after the public inaugauration-Roberts and President Barack Obama did it over again (there are pictures to prove it, unless you think Roberts is a Martian in the picture). Did you accidentally flub that fact yourself? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Don Firth Date: 17 Jan 13 - 03:42 PM Once again, Spaw cuts straight to the heart of the issue!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: catspaw49 Date: 17 Jan 13 - 03:30 PM I was trying to think of one word to encompass bigoted, racist, half assed, brokedick, dumbfuckin' asshole.....and now I GOT IT!!!!
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 17 Jan 13 - 02:29 PM Elmore, I wouldn't do it. It has been in a toxic environment for too long. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Elmore Date: 17 Jan 13 - 12:49 PM If I ever need a brain transplant, I want Songwronger's because it's never been used. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: frogprince Date: 17 Jan 13 - 12:40 PM Actually, I envy Songwronger for one thing; there is little or no chance that he will ever suffer brain damag. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 17 Jan 13 - 12:04 PM ""It suggests that they are unreasonable people who would rather take to the streets, guns in hand, than to engage in the process of debate. It suggests they're too stupid to know the difference between rhetoric and reality, a distinction which I'm not certain OP understands."" The ones that ShitWrangler gets his disinformation from are precisely that stupid Bee Dub. How else explain the triple distilled crap which forms the bulk of his verbal excreta? Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 17 Jan 13 - 11:37 AM Suggesting that an attempt to impose or enhance a few regulations regarding gun ownership, all of which have been under discussion for ages and none of which should come as a surprise to anyone, would cause a "civil war" is extremely demeaning to gun owners. It suggests that they are unreasonable people who would rather take to the streets, guns in hand, than to engage in the process of debate. It suggests they're too stupid to know the difference between rhetoric and reality, a distinction which I'm not certain OP understands. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: ollaimh Date: 17 Jan 13 - 11:35 AM personally i won't be happy untill i have my own strategic nuclear weapon. i'll strap to to the roof of my car, then those smokies will think twice about giving me a ticket!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: bobad Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:42 AM Hey you. With the guns. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: GUEST,999 Date: 17 Jan 13 - 09:13 AM Ebbie, my remark wasn't directed at you. The people who started the BS about President Obama's EOs numbering near a thousand seem to read publications that support only what I would call very right-wing views, and to do that the publications lie, cheat and obfuscate at every opportunity. The key is to make the lie big enough and tell it often enough. The directionless will fall in line. Songwronger, if you don't care what people think, why post your thoughts on Mudcat? GfS: your remark was a great disappointment. Ebbie checks her information, and if you had read the Snopes article you'd be asking your political allies where THEY got their information--which Snopes proves to be highly inaccurate. The Snopes article makes more than a few people look like reactionaries at best and dupes at worst, and because I know some of those people who have misquoted 'facts' about the various EOs, it makes me wonder what drives people to win at any cost, even when it requires lots of misinformation to do so. I have said twice so far--third time lucky--that the Republican Party will all but disappear in 2014. (Any political party that would consider running either Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann has serious issues.) AFAICS, it won't be soon enough for your country to have the Republicans collapse, but unless folks get off their collective fundaments now and create a viable 'other' party to challenge the Democrats in 2016, y'all go be stuck with SSDD. IMO. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: artbrooks Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:34 AM Anybody wanna buy a tin-foil hat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 17 Jan 13 - 08:19 AM Conservative Republican Congressman Peter King of New York tells CNN that Obama's 23 "Executive Actions" are... "inconsequential." The entire supposedly blood-curdling Commie list is here. Scroll down: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/16/obama-to-announce-gun-control-proposals-shortly/comment-page-36/ More convincing to some, however, is the fact that "Executive Action" was the title of a 1973 Hollywood thriller about covert assassins and a CIA conspiracy to take over the government by any means necessary. Draw your own conclusions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: Wesley S Date: 17 Jan 13 - 07:37 AM "Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow?" Started on the 15th. Today is the 17th. So - No. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: GUEST,Lighter Date: 17 Jan 13 - 07:29 AM Thank you, Joe. Those figures are entirely in accord with media reports. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama Start a Civil War Tomorrow? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 17 Jan 13 - 03:50 AM beardedbruce: "Ebbie, This is what I found- where did you get your numbers ( asking politely)?" From Bobert..where else???? GfS |
