BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?

Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?
From: gnu
Date: 09 Mar 13 - 08:40 PM

I first learned about tar pits in a Bugs Bunny cartoon. Not much different from this thread at times in fantasy.

Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Mar 13 - 11:49 PM

High gas prices, this, and political expediency....guess why they'll drill
...and it's all been for the benefit of the bankers and big corporations. The environment doesn't matter to these folks....except to bullshit you!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Mar 13 - 01:12 AM

Bitch and complain, bitch and complain, endlessly bitch and complain.

But never a positive suggestion.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Mar 13 - 04:00 AM

The weak accuse others of their own ways.
Thank you for being so clear.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?
From: gnu
Date: 27 May 13 - 08:55 PM

http://desmog.ca/2013/05/23/beaver-lake-cree-judgment-most-important-tar-sands-case-you-ve-never-heard

Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 03:23 AM

Illinois AG and neighbors sue over humongous heaps of 'petcoke'
By Lisa Riordan Seville
Investigative Reporter, NBC News
09 November 2013

Along the banks of Chicago's Calumet River, growing piles of black dust up to five stories high – a byproduct of oil refining called "petcoke" -- have sparked two lawsuits that allege the towering mounds pose grave threats to the environment and people of the city's Southeast side.

"When the wind picks up and there's a little breeze you're getting black dust everywhere -- you can't even open your back windows," said Lilly Martin, 50, a plaintiff in one of the suits who lives just blocks from one of the piles.

Martin said the dust turns her pool water black and forces her to power wash her house weekly. But her real concern is for the health of her 21-year-old daughter, who suffers from asthma. "She can't even go out and breathe the fresh air," she said. "Where do we go if it's all in the area here?"

The granular, coal-like material -- a carbon-rich residue from crude oil refining called petroleum coke, but often referred to as "petcoke" -- is used as an industrial fuel and has long been stored in open lots in Midwestern cities. There is little U.S. market for petcoke because it burns "dirty," producing more emissions than coal. But as refineries across the country have begun processing more heavy, carbon-rich crude oil from Canada's "oil sands" fields, they have likewise been producing more petcoke. And though American entrepreneurs, led by the Koch brothers, have discovered a booming market for petcoke in China, the piles have grown larger.
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The full article runs about 3 pages as text, and is too long to post it all here. The picture at the link is also rather impressive.

Reading the complete report is recommended.

It does appear to make clear why the "Pipeline" would be profitable to Koch, Canada, and China, but of little benefit and substantial probable harm to the US. It also seems to show that not all the environmental impacts reasonably expected for transporting Canadian crude across large tracts of environmentally critical parts of the US to dump all the waste byproducts in Texas have been revealed – as yet.

Another thing to worry about?

John

Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?
From: kendall
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 07:07 AM

The wise people of South Portland Maine just killed a proposal to bring that shit into Maine. It would pass right by Sebago lake, the water supply for the whole greater Portland area. One leak and it's curtains for this area. That crap is full of sand! any fool knows what that will do to a pipeline.

Subject: RE: BS: Will Obama approve the XL pipeline?
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Nov 13 - 09:45 AM

There is no earthy reason for this pipeline... Not only would it pose a great danger to our environment and water but it is a very bad deal for the US as the US gets 100% of the risk and very little of the rewards... The only American who will profit will be those who get rent checks for having the pipeline traverse their land and a after the construction only a few thousand permanent jobs...

No to stupidity...

B~