BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC

Subject: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: EBarnacle
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 09:41 AM

Saw this in the Wall Street Journal:



Billionaire launches plans for Titanic replica .

NEW YORK — What could possibly go wrong?

An Australian billionaire is getting ready to build a new version of the Titanic that could set sail in late 2016.

Clive Palmer unveiled blueprints for the famously doomed ship's namesake Tuesday at the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum in New York. He said construction is scheduled to start soon in China.

Palmer said 40,000 people have expressed interest in tickets for the maiden voyage, taking the original course from Southampton, England, to New York. He said people are inspired by his quest to replicate one of the most famous vessels in history.

"We all live on this planet, we all breathe the same air and, of course, the Titanic is about the things we've got in common," he said. "It links three continents."

The original Titanic was the world's largest and most luxurious ocean liner when it hit an iceberg in the North Atlantic and sank on April 15, 1912. Only 700 people of the more than 2,200 on board survived the most famous maritime disaster in history, partly because there were not enough lifeboats to carry everyone.

Palmer said an unknown when the original ship sailed — climate change — may play into a positive for the new ship's fate.

"One of the benefits of global warming is there hasn't been as many icebergs in the North Atlantic these days," Palmer said.

Passengers on board the replica will dress in the fashion of that period and eat dishes from the original menu, in dining rooms copied from the ill-fated predecessor.

Joining Palmer on Tuesday was Helen Benziger, the great granddaughter of Titanic survivor Margaret "Molly" Brown. Benziger, who agreed to serve on the advisory board for the Titanic II, said her great grandmother, who died in 1932, would have loved to see the Titanic rebuilt and complete the journey it never got to finish.

In what some may consider a temptation of fate for a remake of a notoriously "unsinkable" ship that sank, a representative of the Finnish designer of the Titanic II said it will be the "safest cruise ship in the world."

Markku Kanerva, director of sales for marine design company Deltamarin said that while the vessel is modeled after the legendary liner — the diesel-powered ship will even have four decorative smoke stacks mimicking the coal-powered originals — it will meet modern navigation and safety requirements.

In addition, plans call for a new "safety deck" featuring state-of-the-art lifeboats, safety chutes and slides. The new ship will also have amenities unknown a century ago, like air conditioning.

Palmer, who is funding construction of the ship himself, built his fortune in real estate and coal. Australia's BRW magazine estimated his net worth last year at $4 billion, although Forbes puts it at $895 million.

"I want to spend the money I've got before I die," he said. "You might as well spend it, not leave it to the kids to spend, there will be enough left for them anyway."

—Copyright 2013 Associated Press

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 09:48 AM

It will mean little without . . .

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 10:30 AM

Has there been any news of the iceberg?

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 10:32 AM

I have it in the freezer, Manitas.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Musket
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 10:59 AM

People on the maiden voyage will sleep soundly and peacefully secure in the knowledge they are safe.

Mind you, global warming and all that. More icebergs around than 100 years ago.......

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: kendall
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 01:03 PM

My favorite Titanic story is the one about world heavyweight champion, Jack Johnson.He was refused passage on her because he was black.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 01:21 PM

Jamie Brockett's "Legend of the Titanic" is a *must hear at least once in your life* song... Has the Jack Johnson reference in it at the beginning and end... Beware: this song is long so allow a good 15 minutes for the listen...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: oldhippie
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 01:42 PM

Titanic II, Iceberg II. Not booking on the maiden voyage.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 01:44 PM

Bobert... that may well be the strangest musical experience I've ever had in my life.

At least now we know the real cause of it all.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: gnu
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:08 PM

Bobert, froggy... no rope, man!

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:09 PM

If they're going to replicate the original voyage I hope the passengers realize that the ship never made it to New York. Not enough lifeboats, not enough life jackets, no survival suits, living in steerage and all just to drown? Nah, I don't think I'll go.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 02:10 PM

There's no hope without rope, gn-ze...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 03:36 PM

I got a feeling that the ticket price on that first voyage may be a bit higher than most of us regular folks would be willin' to pay.

It was a beautiful ship, though, so I hope if they build a new one that it looks just like the original did in every way possible.

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: gnu
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 03:55 PM

I think it's a very smart business venture.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 03:59 PM

and there was me thinking a thread had slipped through a wormhole in the space-time continuum

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 04:45 PM

LOL--my first thought on seeing the thread title this morning was, "It's about time."

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 04:57 PM

Yo, Rap... I heard an interview with the guy and he said they are going to have 3 classes of accommodations... You'll fit in quite nicely in 3rd class with me and the other po folk...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 05:05 PM

You guys will end up in steerage. Probably playing trumpet and blues guitar entertaining the boys below decks.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: EBarnacle
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 05:16 PM

A friend asked whether I would go. I said yes--as long as I can bring my own dry suit, PFD and marine radio/EPIRB [emergency position indicating radio beacon]. Be prepared!

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 06:36 PM

The one thing they definitely GOT to change is the number of lifeboats on that ship. Just in case.

I wonder if Celine Dionne will book passage on the first trip?

- Chongo

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:32 PM

Bobert, I heard Jaime Brockett's Titanic song (on the new-fangled c. 1969 progressive rock FM station that could play it uncut) looooooong time before I finally met him in the '80s (as part of Tom's "crowd", along with Chris Biggi, Kenny Girard, Bill Madison, Paul Geremia, etcet etcet). Made quite an impression on me, and I found it pretty amazing that he was one of my husband's friends.

Ever see his business cards? "Mr. James Brockett would like to apologize for his behavior on the night of ___________."

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:36 PM

Love it, Linn...

As for playing blues in the belly of that ship??? Hey, where better???

Pass the shine...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:39 PM

...Touch wood.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:41 PM

There's a word that comes to mind in relation to this venture. Hubris.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: kendall
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:42 PM

I wonder if they have hired a Captain yet? I'm bored being on shore.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 27 Feb 13 - 07:57 PM

Clive Palmer - a character & his conspiracy theories he's not on my/our side of politics. He keeps headline writers in business. Reaction to his Titanic plans has been widespread.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 07:18 AM

I wonder if they have hired a Captain yet?

Captain Francesco Schettino might be available.


DC

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 08:25 AM

Maybe it's time to compose a new disaster song!

"It was Friday night when she set sail,
And she sank to the bottom of the sea!"

How's that for a start?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,999
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 09:56 AM

Real short song, Charley. However, as a round . . .

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: EBarnacle
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 10:25 AM

Kendall, is your ticket for unlimited tonnage, North Atlantic?

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,Don Wise
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 10:52 AM

"Praise be to Nero's Neptune
The Titanic sails at dawn....."

Why didn't Mr. Palmer ask Clive Cussler (Raise the Titanic!"?

Didn't Douglas Adams have a go at the Titanic?

Be that as it may this one is going to be built in China, not Belfast.

Don

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 06:28 PM

A little off-topic, while I was visiting Tom in the hospital today, I mentioned this thread and the inclusion of Jaimie Brockett. Tom has known Brockett since the Charles Street days in Boston in the late '60s. His arrangement for the Titanic song was lifted completely from Chris Smither.

Tom also mentioned that Brockett had a flexible guitar. Intentionally flexible. It was a POS except for its one talent -- Jaimie played a raga on it.

Linn

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: gnu
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 07:40 PM

"I wonder if Celine Dionne will book passage on the first trip?"

I will pay for it!

If Kendall is Cappy and I will the looto, screw the wailing whiney one, *I* will use her ticket.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Feb 13 - 08:15 PM

There are some weird features designed into this ship. Check out the first two stacks; there are picture windows cut in for viewing the seascape.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Rog Peek
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 07:46 AM

Tempting Fate?

Kendall, great story about Jack Johnson, I'd not heard that.....lovely!

Rog

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 08:40 AM

Except the story isn't true. But it IS a great story, for collectors of fairytales.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Bert
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 02:04 PM

Don't they realize that it won't be the SAME if it doesn't sink.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Bert
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 02:29 PM

gnu says... I think it's a very smart business venture.

I dunno, don't they realize what a monumental flop it is going to be when it arrives safely at its destination? Everyone on earth will be expecting it to sink.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: gnu
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 02:37 PM

"I will the looto"??? A Freudian omen?

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: kendall
Date: 01 Mar 13 - 08:02 PM

My search engine says it's true.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Mar 13 - 12:01 PM

About Jack Johnson being denied passage.

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Megan L
Date: 02 Mar 13 - 01:34 PM

Joseph LaRoche Haitian born man was going to America with his wife and two children on board the ship He put his wife and children on a lifeboat and sttod back to help others aboard his body was never recovered.

Found this on Was there a black person on the titanic


Walloon08-01-2007, 03:10 AM
World champion Jack Johnson was offered such a spot when he sought tickets, but he refused to accept, saying they were beneath him. Probably saved his life.I researched that, and believe that story is a myth. The Titanic made its maiden voyage from England on 10 April 1912. Jack Johnson was in the U.S., specifically in Chicago, in February, March, and April of 1912. Johnson was in England in 1911, returning to New York aboard the Celtic on 23 Dec. 1911.

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Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 03 Mar 13 - 06:21 AM

Google says it's true. And, considering how universally he was hated by racists, it makes sense.

"If it doesn't make sense, it's not true. If it does make sense, it is probably true." (Judge Judy)

Subject: RE: BS: RMS Titanic to arrive in NYC
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Mar 13 - 07:17 AM

If Titanic II sinks, then the promotor will really cash in on the film rights. It may not be a stretch of the imagination to say this ship is designed to sink. But that would be wrong!

Charley Noble