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BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild

Bert 17 Mar 13 - 12:10 AM
JohnInKansas 17 Mar 13 - 12:54 AM
freda underhill 17 Mar 13 - 07:49 AM
Bert 17 Mar 13 - 09:38 AM
JohnInKansas 18 Mar 13 - 07:15 AM
Bert 18 Mar 13 - 12:21 PM
Mrrzy 18 Mar 13 - 02:10 PM
GUEST,Stim 18 Mar 13 - 05:32 PM
katlaughing 18 Mar 13 - 10:00 PM
GUEST 19 Mar 13 - 08:42 AM
Nigel Parsons 19 Mar 13 - 09:27 AM
Dave the Gnome 19 Mar 13 - 11:19 AM
Mrrzy 19 Mar 13 - 01:42 PM
Mo the caller 20 Mar 13 - 09:06 AM
Bert 20 Mar 13 - 09:08 AM
Mrrzy 20 Mar 13 - 11:15 AM
GUEST,DrWord 20 Mar 13 - 03:10 PM
Mrrzy 20 Mar 13 - 03:14 PM
frogprince 20 Mar 13 - 03:27 PM
Bettynh 20 Mar 13 - 03:37 PM
Gurney 20 Mar 13 - 03:47 PM
GUEST,DrWord 20 Mar 13 - 04:55 PM
frogprince 20 Mar 13 - 05:53 PM
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Subject: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Bert
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 12:10 AM

If you have Grandchildren you have been in this situation. The kid asks for something and you don't know what the hell they are talking about.

When Dante was about three he wanted to watch a movie. The movie he asked for was 'Flatbush'.

So what did he want?


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 12:54 AM

There was a movie called "Lords of Flatbush" ca. 1974 that was momentarily popular, but it seems sort of unlikely that a "modern" kid would ever have heard of it. Perhaps there was a sequel or spin-off on the theme more recently, although the possibility that they've let the kids watch "retro TV" might be considered.

Stars for the LoF were listed as Henry Winkler (when he still had hair to greasecomb?), Sylvester Stallone (before he learned to mumble?), and Perry King. The Jacket on the DVD shows them all in black leather a.la. "bikers" but I don't recall whether there were any bikes in the movie. Most likely the costuming just represented (1970s style) street gangs.

Supposedly "humorous" with an "honest theme." (??)

John


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: freda underhill
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 07:49 AM

hard to know what they mean sometimes, Bert, but its sure good to have them!


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Bert
Date: 17 Mar 13 - 09:38 AM

No, that wasn't the one John.


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 07:15 AM

There is a rap group that calls itself "Flatbush Zombies" but they don't appear to have released anything like a movie.

Wikipedia Flatbush NY says that there was a 1979 TV series (sitcom) that was sort of a spinoff from the "Lords of" movie, and DVDs of the series might be available. (see Cultural References at the bottom of the Wiki page.)

Beyond those, I get pretty much a blank from my quickie searches.

My usual approach would have been to ask the kid why he thought that was a good one, and hope for enough feedback to "get a clue." (But maybe that's why my kids quit talkin' to me** by about the time they were 8 or 9?)

** The real reason was more likely that I hired 'em out to a sweat shop so they weren't around as much to pester me with stuff I didn't know anything about.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Bert
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 12:21 PM

The movie he wanted was "The Incredible Mr. Limpet". When he was a fish, the crab called him Flatbush.

Now come on everyone what posers did your Grandkids give you?


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 02:10 PM

Excellent translation, Bert!

OK, here is one, from a grandchild of my mom's. We (child and I) had been talking about reality vs. fiction, and about what was make-believe and what was real (he was having difficulties separating the two). So he's maybe 3, 4 or so, we are watching the old animated Snow White dance with birdies, and he leans over and asks, very seriously...

Does she know she's not real?

I was stuck at first, but answered. Will tell answer when you tell me what you'd have said...


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: GUEST,Stim
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 05:32 PM

The answer that I would give is, is "no, she believes that she is real." Hopefully, I would have had the sense to leave it at that and not go into some protracted literary explanation.


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Mar 13 - 10:00 PM

as in how do YOU know she isn't? (said with a grin)


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 08:42 AM

When my son was six as we crossed at a road junction he said "This is just like the Babylonians". I did manage to work it out, but it took rather a leap of imagination ...


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 09:27 AM

Does she know she's not real?
I was stuck at first, but answered. Will tell answer when you tell me what you'd have said...


I'd have to answer "No".
If she's not real (and who are we to decide) then she knows nothing, and so cannot 'know' she isn't real.
If she is real (She is the butterfly, we are the dreamers) then she cannot know that she's not real, as that would be untrue!


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 11:19 AM

My second eldest, at the age of about 2, used to point out "Bigoles". We though they may be big holes or something similar, but they weren't. We never did find out I am glad to say. Some things are best left as a mystery :-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Mar 13 - 01:42 PM

Yeah, I copped out with No, I think she thinks she's real.

Babylonians?

Also, when I told the other twin that my Mom was in Europe, he asked just as seriously, is that my rup AND my brother's rup?


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Mo the caller
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 09:06 AM

I'd have said "I don't think she thinks about it"
And not expanded it with the thought that the Snow White in my head doesn't care, but the Snow White in your grandson's head has just received an idea to keep her awake at nights.
She is 'real' while we believe in her, wonder about her motivations imagine what she will do next.


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Bert
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 09:08 AM

Reality is so important. Kylea, who will be four at the end of May, was very concerned when we were pretending that she was a ghost.

"I'm not a ghost, I'm a human being" she protested and proved it by banging her forehead with her fingers "See, they don't go through!"


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 11:15 AM

Excellent proof!


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 03:10 PM

Hi Bert, all. I am reminded of the kid in the car who grew increasingly apprehensive as they neared Calgary. The child finally burst out: I don't want to go where they killed Jesus!
btw, I am pleased to say that I recently completed the set~my eldest's newborn makes one of each gender. I can't stop grinning. Anticipating the puzzling and philosophically challenging questions in a few years.
Your decoding of the puzzle, Bert, is sweet. You can't Google-Instant everything. As librarian at a school for the deaf, it took me a while to figure out that [book] L and [sign for obese] was a heavily illustrated book of Laurel and Hardy!
enjoy your little ones, 'catters

keep on pickin'
dennis


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 03:14 PM

I still don't get the Babylonians one.

Speaking of Calgary/Calgary, I used to think the words were Who built the ark, no one, no one...

The one that stymied me for the longest was Rippit rippit STAR!!! that they used to say to each other, the twins. Turned out to be "let the wild rumpus start!"


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: frogprince
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 03:27 PM

My nephew (who since then has somehow become a retired career army Seargent Major) expressed his desire to get to the TV to watch Green Hardy movies. Yes, we finally got it. Probably the only way to decipher it is phonetically...sort of, anyhow.


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Bettynh
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 03:37 PM

When my twins were about three, we went downtown to a street fair where there were lots of white helium balloons. We watched seveeral float away up into bright sunshine from the shadowed street. Two weeks later, walking to 4th of July fireworks at dusk, they spotted the full moon. They just knew it was a really big one that got away.

Meanwhile, I guess they didn't get enough information from the repeating of "Why?" Their constant question for quite awhile was "What does (insert something here) eat?"
"What do cars eat? What does grass eat? What do tigers eat? What do rocks eat?"


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: Gurney
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 03:47 PM

My first thought was that he meant The Flintstones.

Don't know why.


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: GUEST,DrWord
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 04:55 PM

Babylonians???????? c'mon guest GUEST, several of us are still at the crossroads . . .

dennis


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: frogprince
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 05:53 PM

Babyonians?? It's obvious; they lived in the Chicago area; they were going north on Sheridan Road, and they came to the junction with...

...Tower Road.


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Subject: RE: BS: A puzzle from a Grandchild
From: DMcG
Date: 20 Mar 13 - 06:09 PM

Sorry for not responding - I'm afraid it was pretty unguessible. Being at primary school they had been told recently that different cultures used different symbols for numbers. My son had been struck by the fact the road layout resembled one of the symbols.

I didn't know he'd been studying those symbols, but I did know that was part of the 'key stages' material. Thereafter it was a case of putting two and two and two and two together


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