Bob Brozman legal issues

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 09 May 13 - 04:29 PM

Unless this thread actually goes somewhere other than bizarre anecdotes about cheese and paranoid delusional accusations against Jack Campin, and fast, it's time this shrieking catastrophe of a thread was put to bed. I really REALLY don't see how it can be of ANY help to this man's supposed victims.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 09 May 13 - 04:20 PM

Just tell us what you say you know and enough of all this silliness.
You are a ridiculous person going on like this about a subject as serious as this.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 May 13 - 04:15 PM

"I have a Bob Brozman baritone guitar. Do I need to keep it away from my ukes?"

Really tacky and in extremely poor taste.

It's interesting to me that so many of the posts on this thread are from anonymous guests. They seem to be drawn to this one like the folks who gawk at an accident.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Homer S.
Date: 09 May 13 - 04:09 PM

Umm, cheese!

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 04:05 PM

...Waiting with baited breath for part 7 of the go-nowhere non-story by Mr. Forgot-My-Prozac-Today...

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 04:02 PM

somebody PLEASE go in and "sunspot" this guy's computer...permanently.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Gene- Adelphi/Sunsplash Records & Films, Inc
Date: 09 May 13 - 03:59 PM

KMay 9, 2013

Sorry kids, I was interupted by a knock on the door, pursuant to a donation by me of 80 ft of heliax transmission cable to the local Ham Radio Club.....nothing is ever simple Mea Culpa

Oh Jeez, now I'm going to be
accused of some sort of conspiracy involving
Brozman and Heliax transmission cable! Actually you'd be 100% correct ...although Bob died at his own hands, of carbon monoxide poisoning, in his own garage, no one has bothered to mention that he also had 80 feet of heliax wrapped around his body!

Oh, and another quickie--- I've just finished previewing some of the most outrageous posts that I've ever seen, with people coming up with all sorts of delusional projections and possible motives for this post, all of which are so out to lunch as to be laughable, however there is one anonymous one that refers to a "cheese incident", I've been racking my brains about such an incident, but to no avail, there was a "wine" bottle incident, there was a "who is doing the "cleanup" incident, but a cheese incident.....hmmmmm, oh wait a minute, I think I do remember a "cheese" incident, except for the fact that YOU should be apologizing for it....so here's the complete story folks:

Sandra my wife & I took it upon ourselves (more than 5 years ago) to host the after hour musical Jams, in the "all night" music "Peace Cabin"...after a couple of years we became known as the "Peace Cabin Elves"......further, every year, out of our own pockets, we'd set up a complete spread: everything from "Starbucks" coffee, to sodas of all types, and chips & dips & cookies, and sandwich meat and Cheese and grapes, etc. ALL out of our pockets, generally around $400 worth of stuff. which we, from experience, knew would cover at least 3 late nights up until usually 4 AMin the morning, at which time we took on the obligation of cleaning up everthing, rearranging the tables & chairs for set-up at the 8AM workshop, and, of course we gathered up all of the leftover spread to put on ice in our run so as to be ready for the next evening.....however on day one, we were in a great hurry to set up, so stupidly we placed whole blocks of cheese Swiss, Muenster, cheddar & Brie....usually we would have cut them into quarters, and every night only a "quarter" would be out, well imagine our surprise when we were in the final stages of cleanup, to discover two whole blocks of cheese had totally disappeared (average cost of these huge blocks $40 to $50 apiece! I immediately inquired of the few musicians still standing as to whether or not they might have seen anyone helping to clean up by removing food from the table...it wasn't lost on ANY of them....they ALL pointed to the right & down the hall to the"Three Girls Room"! Suffice it bto say, no one was willing to confront the issue, so it fell to me....with witnesses in tow I banged very heavily, several times on the cheese theives door, announcing loudly thatt I was there to retrieve the stolen vcheese, finally in the darkened room, a female answered the door, and in no uncertain terms I demanded the return of $100 dollars worth of our, and the next three days of musicians Cheese....after a bit of mumbling and fumbling, the cheese in it's entirety was returned through the darkened door. OH, you mean THAT cheese incident Janie?

Let's get this straight, you will now come on this thread, identify yourself and make a public apology here & now. If not you WILL be confronted by me and SAndra in the Peace Cabin, where once again we will demand a public apology. I'd do it now the easy way....an in public incident will leave you socially damaged....it's your choice!

Sorry for the long/short interlude folks, but it needed to be done!

Follows shortly part #7 (I think it's 7 ) :-)

Soon Cum
Gene R.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 03:11 PM

Everyone knows Ry Cooder has a glass eye. Lost his real left eye when he was four. Story I heard was that Jerry Garcia's older brother cut it off with an axe.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:55 PM

Sorry - "would be known by the prospective defendant".

Bottom line - Brozman would have known for sure if he was about to be charged. But all that is a leap from what has been publicly discussed so far. We are all just speculating until the victims' people release a statement...

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:51 PM

There ARE secret federal/state grand juries and cases brought under total secrecy - but the ordinary criminal GJs would by the prospective defendant to be getting ready to indict him/her.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,former student
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:51 PM

if this story is real and has legs, I'm thinking he would have been subpoena'd.    THAT would leave documentary evidence.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:50 PM

I have a Bob Brozman baritone guitar. Do I need to keep it away from my ukes?

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,anonymous
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:42 PM

stop with the grand jury, already.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:41 PM

If he was court scheduled it would have appeared on the respective court calendar which would have been removed post death. Santa Cruz doesn't have one online.

The only way you would be able to find out info on that would probably be through private investigator who specializing in those things. Any communication to him might be in a folder somewhere.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:38 PM

Grand Jury proceedings are indeed "secret" in that they are closed to the public and transcripts are not obtainable except in extraordinary circumstances. However, the fact that a Grand Jury investigation is being planned -- or has been convened to investigate someone -- is not private.

I live in California and was called for jury duty at the Grand Jury investigation of Michael Jackson for child molestation. Fortunately or unfortunately I was not chosen as an actual juror, but I well recall the mobs of reporters outside the courtroom, jostling for information. What went on inside was indeed "secret," but the fact that the GJ was convening for the Jackson case was well known to all.

Thus it MAY be that Brozman knew the GJ was about to convene. (I am not saying that was the case -- only that it is possible.)

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Andy Alexis
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:27 PM

All sorts of possibilities: it could have been a civil suit; perhaps he was questioned by the grand jury himself. We may find out these details in due course. We may not, too. If you read back in the comments, in the case (unrelated to Brozman) in which my family was subjected to, the victim in my family wanted NOTHING to do with any action, criminal, civil, anything, whatsoever. She just wanted peace.

[utterly unimportant detail confirmation: I have heard that Ry Cooder has a glass eye from a friend of mine who met him briefly]

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:26 PM

Grand juries - I've sat on them and had enough friends harassed by them.

The grand jury here in the U.S. is just a tool of the prosecutor. They actually return whatever indictment is asked of them 99.9% of the time. Occasionally a case will be brought before a grand jury if there is political pressure only to have the prosecutor lead the jury not to indict, but normally cases are only brought if indictment is intended and in that case indictments are almost always issued. Virtually no evidence is required to be presented before a grand jury - they will vote indictments consistently with the flimsiest of hearsay. It's a majority vote of the jurors rather than the unanimous verdict required of a criminal trial jury.

That said, the fact that a grand jury is meeting and being presented with a particular case may or may not be secret. The specifics of the proceedings are always secret and sealed as they are occurring, and are frequently the subject of gag orders to force non-disclosure, but potential defendants are frequently aware, co-conspirators may be forced to testify under immunity, lawyers are negotiating with prosecutors, etc.

Plus plenty typically leaks out anyway - corrupt court officers sell information, and so on.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:25 PM

Sunspots.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,former student
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:23 PM

I had the very same question, Jack. For this story to hang together, Bob had to have a mole in the DA's office.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:08 PM

One niggle I can't make sense of.

Someone here said that "grand jury" procedures in the US are secret.

If it was secret, how come Brozman could have seen it coming? If they were doing their job, shouldn't the first he knew about it be when the cops smashed his door in? How could he have had enough warning to plan a suicide?

Somebody clue us in on US criminal procedure as it applies to this?

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 09 May 13 - 02:05 PM

Gene, you are insufferable and uninterestingly verbose. If you have a point to make that has any relevance you will have diminished the impact by your obtuseness and undeserved self importance. If working with you is anything like listening to you than you must not inspire much confidence in your customers.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Gene- Adelphi/Sunsplash Records & Films, Inc
Date: 09 May 13 - 01:17 PM

May 9, 2013

It was my intention to lead up to this gently, but it's now demanding
of posting right now.

I have to admit,however, that I've held back from posting these terrible stories out of worry & concern about the real/potential negative impact that they might have on my upcoming releases (Fahey and Firk multi CD & DVD memorial anthologies)... but Duck (my new hero), has made it much easier now for me when added to the atrocious and personal, heinous attacks leveled upon me from every quarter, including with emphasis the fact that it was MY post on the obit site which was chosen to be the very first post to be bumped over here with attendant un-deserved commentary, which cut me to the bone. Finally, thank you Duck for reminding me about my so-called roots, and my (original) philosophy, to say embarrassed is to let me off way too easily/lightly for a Label, the ONLY Label that was willing to Release Patrick Sky's "Songs That Made America Famous.

So, for those of you that felt the need, for whatever reason, to attack me personally, assuming that I was just out to get Brozman, or that my motives were even more venal, because I'm obviously... "out to win friends and influence your uncle" to misquote the sage.....the following story is for each and every one of you on this thread that have ABSOLUTELY no personal interface whatsoever with actionable pedofilia, right up front and personal in your own family. Unless you qualify with personal experience, won't you please back off long enough to learn something, assuming that's even possible for you dolts to possibly learn & digest anything other then what you want to hear.

Story:

Once upon a time there was a girl called Carol, my sister (now deceased) who attended and graduated cum laude from Antioch College in Yellow Springs, Ohio.....in this same period of time there was a young man (a musician) by the name of Michael A Stewart, initials backwards SAM, thus Backwards Sam (where the Firk part came from I;m not at liberty to divulge- sworn to secrecy)....Michael had been attending College in Oregon, possibly Reed College (or perhaps Goddard), whichever one was located in Oregon, which interestingly enough was also attended by Ry Cooder, you can't make this shit up, btw- Firk did not graduate from Reed, but in his final semester he & Ry were dorm room-mates (best guess circa 1967/8/9). As an interesting side note Mike told that Ry has a "glass eye" and also that Ry was blown away by Firk's Country Blues picking style...you can't make this up kids, but I digress again--- there came a time that Firk returned to DC from Oregon, and he and my Sister became lovers, I let my sister know that I opposed the upcoming marriage
but who the Fu*k was I to interfere with true love? (What a jerk I was at age 28 or so! LOL)
Not very long thereafter, they married, borrowed money from my folks and bought a country style house in Mount Airy, MD.
Things wound their course and the marrieds settled in, Firk running his 78 auctions, again financed by my folks loans, and Sister Carol commuting every day to the middle school where she was a fukll time teacher.l....
Meanwhile, during this period of time, Firk at least twice a week came over to my parents house wherein was the Adelphi Recording studio (more on this later) suffice it to say Firk was notn only an Adelphi Recording Artist, but he was also employed by Adelphi at least two days a week, to analyze and grade the hundreds of hours of blues recordings from our
"family" blues expedition of 1969, which was evventually released, qat first on lp, and later as the basis of the Adelphi Blues Vault Series........
I'm going to break here lest this gets too long to post...
be right back up...
Gene

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Anonymous Interested 4th Party
Date: 09 May 13 - 01:01 PM

THANK YOU DUCK BAKER. You are braver than me. Though I TEND to agree with you, I can't reveal my identity because I have worked closely with Bob Brozman on a few occasions, and was scheduled to work with him again shortly... And must continue even now to work with extremely interested parties whom I know extremely well and who knew him extremely well. More than most, I can safely say. And for now, these interested parties refuse to believe or accept any part of these accusations in any way and are waiting for something concrete before making judgments of any kind. Again, I have worked with Bob personally, and had the opportunity to spend a few occasions with Bob and his wife at dinner and in other social situations. I really like Haley, and have wept bitter tears for her since this has happened. I have read every single post with great interest since this thread started and I discovered these comments. I have personally met Duck Baker, though only on one occasion, and spent an afternoon talking and getting to know him well enough to trust that if he says he has made contacts, phone calls and inquiries and knows a bit of inside information, it most likely is the truth.

I can confirm that during a workshop which I personally attended, he cracked sexually laced jokes continuously.

This incredible tragedy has spawned me to read about pedophilia. What strikes me the most about this story (IF IT'S TRUE) is how such a musical genius, a hero of the live musical world, a person that brought so much delight and happiness to so many audiences and seemed to live such a magical life from the outside was such a tortured, lonely and sick individual. Do not get me wrong. I FEEL FIRST AND MOST DEEPLY FOR HIS (possible) VICTIMS. But his story goes beyond anything similar. The kind of respect and admiration Bob had from the musical world is rare, nothing to compare to that of Michael Jackson, as Bob was a far better musician. Why such an intelligent man did not seek out help absolutely amazes me. Why he was not able to process what he was doing in his mind and acknowledge it in his conscious mind is incomprehensible. Why someone with the economic resources he had access to never thought he could be treated and cured and lead a somewhat normal life. I think this raises several questions. What causes pedophilia? Are pedophiles sociopaths? Is it because they were abused themselves? How can a wife and close family not know? How could so many of his colleagues not know? This is a link to a very good article from the Mayo Clinic. Having read quickly I'd like to say it appears that the scientific community agrees that pedophiles are    SICK PEOPLE.    MENTALLY ILL.    This is mental illness, people. And IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY IT, but it can explain it. Pedophiles often have more than one psychological/psychiatric illness (see pages 5-8 in the below article)

http://www.abusewatch.net/pedophiles.pdf

This is too big and too important. All you need to do is google long and short term effects of sexual abuse pedophiles. Yes, I will wait for something more tangible before pronouncing myself, out of respect for family and friends, but the point I want to make here is that Bob may have produced many victims, but rather than just demonizing him, see the man in his sickness. That does NOT take way his responsibility for his actions, of course.

If the allegations are true, Bob's life will become an emblematic story for understanding the genius musician and pedophile mind. God bless his poor victims, unknowing family members friends and fans... and him, in those last few seconds of of his consciousness, knowing he was taking his life and what it all meant, feeling what he must have been feeling, and I mean in every way.

Anonymous Interested 4th Party

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,guest (anon)
Date: 09 May 13 - 12:56 PM

I'm going back to Santa Cruz dot com....this has become a food fight.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 12:32 PM

Those of us who witnessed the "cheese" incident at the Getaway know nothing is out of the realm of possibilities.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Andy Alexis
Date: 09 May 13 - 12:27 PM

..and it looks like he wants to throw John Fahey and Backwards Sam under the bus while he's at it....

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 09 May 13 - 12:20 PM

I think Gene is getting ready to tell us he has the same vile problem that Mr. Brozman has been accused of. He wants to confess to something, just give him time

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:35 AM

Hunter? Is that you?

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:34 AM

There is a lot going on here that doesn't have to do with Brozman. Is there any way someone who actually knows our most active poster could do a welfare check?

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Andy Alexis
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:33 AM

He certainly isn't doing the victims any favors with this odd display.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:31 AM

There are two possibilities here.

One is that Brozman is the posthumous victim of false accusations.

The other is that the accusations are true and he caused great suffering to some people.

In neither case is Gene The Nutter the object of concern, and wherever the truth may lie, this is not something that should be made into a circus act.

Listen up Gene: This is not about you. And if you think this kind of behaviour is a good way to do PR for your record company, think again.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:28 AM

We are patient my friend - but some of us are older than you, more debilitated, and fear we might not live long enough to learn the truth about this case before it goes the way of the MJ case with lots of payoffs and gag orders.

Seriously - if there IS truth to any of this - quick public testimony is essential to preventing it from eventually being swept under the rare Persian carpet like so many other scandals of the rich. IF there is truth to this the potential for victims worldwide is enormous. Therefore we need to hear what you got pronto pops!

Thanks!

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,JJ
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:27 AM

Sad filibuster of what was an interesting thread...

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Fox Mulder
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:24 AM

Some computers do indeed scream when aliens manipulate the sunspots. There are secret studies in the basement of the FBI headquarters in Washington to that effect.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,anonymous
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:15 AM

Gene, My husband suggest you be put on "triangulation" watch as he is doing for me. I love the ones who keep saying "tread lightly". Ooh, scary.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:09 AM

Please do not block this man's IP. This whole story has already crossed into Bizarro land on multiple levels and at this point the best thing for all concerned is to air out as much as possible as openly as possible. Many of the players and people affected will have "issues" - it only makes sense that the witnesses will too.

Please tell us the Gory Details Gene - Everyone will take your testimony much more seriously if you tell us the specifics about Brozman first and then explain the sunspots and such.

Just give us a shorthand summary first of the worst you know and then come back to fill it out, okay?

Thanks Gene!

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 09 May 13 - 11:00 AM

No, don't stop it. It's got to be the funniest rant ever. I came here from another forum following a link posted there. I waded through every post above and became quite despondent with what I was learning about BB. That is until I got close to the bottom of the thread and picked up on someone with 5 or 6 computers, that all crash at the same time, and then give out messages (I wonder if they are actually switched on?) and... well, let's just say that just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get you!

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,The Oracle Adelphi
Date: 09 May 13 - 10:37 AM

Is there a way to block this lunatic's IP or disable Guest posts (realize I am posting as a guest but would be happy to obtain & use an account).

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 10:34 AM

Am I the only one scratching my head here?

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Gene- Adelphi/Sunsplash Records & Films, Inc
Date: 09 May 13 - 10:29 AM

May 9, 2013

Post # 6 and 1/2

Sorry Dear friends and others, although I shut down computers 1 thru 5, I did not shut #6, which is directly to the left of this laptop which I'm posting on #7.

I have to admit to human frailty....and while I was setting up for critical post #7, I fell prey to reading the underneath posts from Fahey, Beauregard, and myself......I have to admit to rolling over in uncontrollable laughter on my bed here.....I guess that although no-one knows what I'm about to post, nonetheless, aparently many folks out there have lost what's left of their minds in anticipation......sorry, but the Devil made me do it...........please ignore all of the static.....when I'm through, I think that most of it will evaporate.

Real post #7 to follow......it concerns my personal family, which no-one will be able to counterfeit.......you will know immediately MY real post, it's heavy so get ready!

Gene R.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Adelphi Records- Gene R
Date: 09 May 13 - 09:38 AM

May 9, 2013

Post #6, more or less.....whew, I don't know how you did it Dr Duck, but this is most assuredly no fun at all...but it needs be done regardless of the slings & arrows..........

So, where was I (oops I now hear another one of my computers screaming, but as I said, no more interuptions, give me 3 minutes to shut down #'s 1 thru 5 laptops, be right back, I promise......well er uh, it's actually been more like 7 minutes, Mea Culpa....

Now once more into the bleach, er I meant the "Breach"?

Let me try to quickly put a wrap on the Campin insanity, so that I might finally get to the meat of these posts...hoo hah...

...remember dear friends that patience is a virtue.....I apologize once more for sitting it out, but once Campin realized that he'd get no satisfaction/fulfillment from me on the "Bogus" Backbeat thread, he had no choice whatsoever, but to bring his personal attacks against me to this thread, again the final proof of his sociopathic behaviour.... the only questions in my mind now, about Campin is, whether or not he's a moderator on this thread, or whether or not he's got the ear of a moderator over here, or whether he's a consumate webmeister/hacker and has literally wormed his way in through the back door of the Mudcat site so as to masquerade as a moderator? Anyone having input on this, please vcontact me by e-mail. as a final wrap on Campin, be VERY careful my friends with your interfacing with him, he's a very bright and most dangerous sociopath. If you have any doubts about this, click on his name a view his hundreds of posts on the web beginning in Dec/Jan you'll note very quickly that the majority of his posts are designed to inflame situations, and cause "flaming wars" on sites all across the web. Be very careful my friends, he's one very dangerous MF!

OK, since MOST of you are running out of patience, I'm going to leap to the "gory details" which many of you have long since given up hope that you'll ever see....

Let me break here, for long enough to post this one, and then begin the "gory details that will astound and sicken you......

Gene R

Post #7 (gory details follow)

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Mike Brosnan
Date: 09 May 13 - 09:13 AM

Hi Gene. My name is Mike Brosnan. I'm just some guy who plays guitar and works in mental health. I don't have a degree, but I recognize batshit when I see it. PLEASE STOP TURNING THIS INTO A FREAK SHOW! Seriously... PLEASE! Offer something with substance or stop.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Gene-Peace
Date: 09 May 13 - 08:43 AM

May 9, 2013

Dear guest:

If you're going to make exactly wrong accusations, & I mean frankly that you are totally off base here, which you'll shortly understand, kindly note the following.... this is the VERY LAST TIME that I'm going to respond to an anonymous guest post....if you have a serious opinion or factual information to to add then kindly have the balls to indentify yourself, enough already from all of you piss-ant, ball-less wonders, seriously identify yourselves or please just have the self discipline to hold your tongues until ALL of the facts are in front of you. Opinions are like "assholes" everyone's got one. Nothing personal here, except to say that you're either part of the problem or part of the solution (guess what I think you are).....I will not be further interupted by any more of this crap

Sincerely & respectfully posted

Gene R;

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 08:40 AM

Gene, are you off your meds?

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,Gene- Adelphi/Sunsplash Records & Films, Inc
Date: 09 May 13 - 08:26 AM

May 9, 2013

Post #5 (actually a continuation of post #4 which was unexpectedly interuppted....however to avoid confusion THIS IS post #5:

OOOPs, three hours later

OK Dear friends, sorry for the long delay, I started this post almost three hours ago, & please to remember that patience(sp?)is a virtue....

So as follows:

Before I began this post, I had layed a fully baited trap on the "Brozman Backbeat" "Bogus Thread" located at the top of the Mudcat site mainpage. I guess I should now reveal to you all, the fact that I have an MA in Social Psychology, from Washington Univ. St. Louis, yep the very same College that Brozman attended 10 years later, and also as a "Child of the 60s" I'm absolutely well grounded in provocative "Guerilla Warfare" of the "non-violent" nature, which is apparently a long forgotten art, but I digress.....suffice it to say almost thee hours ago, my #5 laptop computer started screaming, indicating that "someone" had gone for the bait "hook line & sinker", meaning that someone felt the overwhelming need to post in response to my "bait" post!!!

Lo & behold it was none other then Mr Campin, which quite frankly surprised me not at all..... I quickly responded calling him out, and telling him in no uncertain terms that he was "BUSTED"!!

Allow me to explain this dear friends, I'm quite convinced that many of you on this thread, driven by curiosity went over and looked at the thread, BUT NONE OF YOU FELT THE NEED TO POST THERE!.....back now to psych/social psych (I'm sorry, I can't help it)..nonetheless many if not most of you are familiar with sociopathic behaviour, as for example as manifested by serial killers...almost 100% of the time, sociopaths are DRIVEN to return to the scene of their crime,in order to fully revel in the devestation that they've wrought, whether it's the equivalent of sexual gratification to the perpetrator some other type of gratification varies from perpetrator to perpetrator!

The point here is that CAMPIN and ONLY CAMPIN felt the need to not only return, but absent any acrimony, he felt the further need to post and stir the pot! He's Busted!!

Let me ppost this now & come up immediately with post #6

Gene R.

Post #6 follows immediately

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 13 - 08:22 AM

Gene's apparent motive is to make anyone who discovers or is sent to this thread, to review the allegations against brozman, comes away with the sense that his accusers are completely unhinged.

And my guess is, based on the current state of this thread, that it will work.

But it makes me very sad. Imagine a teenager who, as a child, told his parents that she had suffered abuse at the hands of brozman but was disbelieved. Imagine that teenager finding this thread a few days ago, feeling vindicated, and then trying to summon the courage to show it to her parents and try to get some affirmation and some help.

She wakes up today and sees this mess. "Never mind," she thinks. They wil disbelieve me again. They'll say I'm crazy like the rest of these people.

Gene, apparently Bob is an old friend since 1972, from the glory days of Fahey and Stewart, and you are here to thoroughly discredit his accusers.

I have no idea if these allegations are true or not, but if they are, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: Stefan Wirz
Date: 09 May 13 - 07:18 AM

... is *this* the state of mind we're all looking forward to when 70 - glad I still have another 6 years ;-)

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,anon
Date: 09 May 13 - 06:19 AM

wtf are you talking about Gene? get a grip.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 09 May 13 - 05:56 AM

These lengthy and incoherent streams of consciousness are not helping anyone Gene. You're making no kind of sense. In fact I would like to encourage you to stop posting unless you want to actually undermine the credibility of allegations being made against Brozman. This is not a personal attack.

Subject: RE: Bob Brozman legal issues (NOT obit)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 May 13 - 05:37 AM

Four posts in a row with a lot of rage but not one scrap of information about Brozman isn't very promising, Gene.