BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?

Subject: BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?
From: michaelr
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 06:01 PM

I'm curious as to the origin of the name Dalziel (from the BBC mystery series "Dalziel and Pascoe") which is pronounced "Deal".

Subject: RE: BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 07:04 PM

Well, its kind of like the Scots "Menzies", pronounced "Mengus".

Subject: RE: BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 Jul 13 - 07:32 PM

First recorded in 1259, from the barony of Dalzell in Lanarkshire, according to Wiki.

The name is an anglicisation of the Gaelic Dail-gheal (bright dale).

Pronounced dee-EL.

Dalziel and Pascoe is a favorite series of mine.

Subject: RE: BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 02:06 AM

The 'z' isn't really a 'z' but a form of 'g' (yogh?) that has been mistaken for a long 'z'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogh

Subject: RE: BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 03:08 AM

The name Dalyell [as in the long-serving Scottish MP Tam Dalyell] is somewhat similarly pronounced, tho nearer to Dɘ-yell.

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 04:54 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalziel

Subject: RE: BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?
From: leeneia
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 09:35 AM

Thanks, Manitas, for the explanation about the z. I remember those funny-looking g's from my course in medieval literature.

I read all the Dalziel-Pascoe mysteries and have enjoyed them.

Remember the two Bridget Jones novels? I never believed that they were actually written by the overly-pretty aerobics instructor who appeared on the book jacket. They were written by Ellie Pascoe. (As a Detective Inspector's wife, she needed to maintain her privacy.)

Subject: RE: BS: What's the deal with Dalziel?
From: michaelr
Date: 07 Jul 13 - 12:45 PM

Thanks all!