Why I'm not gone/still here

Subject: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Mr Happy
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 11:15 AM

or wherefore, which, wert and art and evermore shalt be?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: frogprince
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 11:57 AM

Some years ago, I stumbled into here looking for the words to a dumb song. I soon found a bunch of people saying some things that made me laugh my butt off, some things that made me really think, and some things that went right to my heart. Last year a whole bunch of very good people here helped me hang in thru some of the darkest days of my life. I see more than enough recently that makes me shake my head, if not just about tear my hair out. But the positive content is nowhere near completely gone. Sorry folks, but I've never really considered leaving yet.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: jacqui.c
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 01:02 PM

i don't post as much as I used to - life and Facebook get in the way, but I do still lurk daily to see what is going on in all sorts of ways.

I must admit that I do find quite a few of the BS threads to be rather tiring - so much hostility does not suit me.

For myself, I am well aware that everything that gets onto the internet is pretty well there for keeps and I would rather not put up some piece of nastiness that someone might be able to access in the future.

My kids, I think, still come here to see what I might be up to and I would hate for them to see, from me, the sort of unpleasantness that is happening right now.

There are things I might think, and maybe say to a very small group of like minded idiots (I can think of two, maybe three people whose demons play well with mine) but, for the main part, I can't see the point in demeaning myself by sinking to the level of taking personal written pot shots at those who do not share my views.

I don't have any religious belief per se but, if that floats your boat, fine. Everyone is entitled to their own point of view on religion, politics, etc but maybe there should be a bit more respect for other people's points of view. I've always believed that, when one party in a discussion gets down to personal abuse they have lost. If it is not possible to discuss something in a civilised manner then just agree to disagree and move on. trading insults, to me, shows an immature mind set.

So, I stay on Mudcat, stay out of the threads that become unpleasant and just count myself lucky that, as a result of this site, I have dear friends that I would not otherwise have met (including a husband) and a lot of friends that I haven't yet met.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 01:39 PM

As a very old biddy, I love sitting at my computer browsing through the threads and reading all the many ideas, viewpoints and opinions. I don't much like some of the more spiteful posts, but like you jacquic, I just ignore them. I've enjoyed many interesting discussions and learnt a lot, about music and all sorts of things from the BS section. I really like most of the posters; many of them are kind, funny, informed and intelligent. I can't see myself staying away.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Elmore
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 02:23 PM

I'm still here because I enjoy all but the nastiest name calling. Funny, but I only get cranky when someone up in the musical section takes a cheap shot at a performer whom I've enjoyed for decades. Then I can be as nasty and childish as any troll.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 02:34 PM

Its our village green...

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 02:43 PM

Because I'm trying to set the record for most resilient, long-lasting, hard-to-dislodge silly old fool...It'll soon be 17 years.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: open mike
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 03:53 PM

because those of us who are still here need to carry on in the absence of those who have passed on...it is our duty!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: GUEST,Damn, he's done-gone
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 03:56 PM

You are indeed far-gone,and done-gone, Mr. Happy

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 04:59 PM

I'm here because of the songs. I love learning about songs, and I love the "thrill of the hunt" of finding songs to answer requests. In all the years Mudcat has been here, we've discussed one heck of a lot of songs, but there's still new and interesting information posted here every day.

I never have liked the BS section, so I mostly ignore it.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 05:26 PM

Made some good friends here, met Max, he's a great guy, but he doesn't get the support he needs.
I only look in occasionally now, and rarely post.
Too cliquey, too many bitter and twisted BS posters.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 06:52 PM

I'm here because if I leave the terrorists win.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 07:06 PM

Rapparee-(aka, Rapaire-Repair). You can't fool me, you crafty fellow. I know you left awhile ago and were replaced by a similarly named bloke.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 08:01 PM

Mudcat is a community , and like all communities has a percentage of a***holes . The bigger the community , the more a***holes , and sadly they are the ones who make the most noise .
Its the Good Guys (Like Max) who make this place worth staying with .

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Larry The Radio Guy
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 08:06 PM

I post sporadically when something really resonates with me....like when I was doing some Mickey Newbury research and discovered a post about him that I had contributed to.....and had totally forgotten.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Eldergirl
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 08:10 PM

I've only been here a couple of months but in that time have discovered new songs, fascinating facts and opinions, and useful information about music events all over the world. AND seen examples of loving support and friendship. If others want to have a big row about something every time they post on here, that's up to them. Not all of us want to join in. If you Do want to join in, I guess you know what to expect.
Cheers me dears! X el.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 09:53 PM

Every few years, the editors at the Folknik newsletter of the San Francisco Folk Music Club, ask me to write a letter about Mudcat. Here's my submission for the next issue:

Songfinding at Mudcat

Back in about 1992, an online friend named Noel Paul Stookey (remember him?) introduced me to something called the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database (DT). I've long since lost contact with Noel, but I've used the Digital Tradition almost every day of my life since then. The Digital Tradition started in 1988. You could send a couple of floppy discs (remember them?) in a postpaid mailer to Dick Greenhaus, and he'd send back the database with a few thousand songs on it, and you could run it on your DOS computer (remember them?). You can still send a DVD in a postage-paid mailer to Dick, and he'll send you back the database – but it's still a DOS program, so you may have to run it in DOSBox if you have Windows 7 or 8.

Sometime along the way, the Digital Tradition also became available on the World Wide Web, hosted on a Xerox Website. Xerox got nervous about copyright issues, and stopped hosting the DT on the Web. A young man in Pennsylvania named Max Spiegel had a blues Website called the Mudcat Café, and in 1996 he offered it as a home for the Digital Tradition. He also set up a discussion forum so people could submit or request songs, and the whole shebang opened on October 1, 1996.

I really missed the Xerox Website, so I kept looking for the Digital Tradition. I found it again on Mudcat in January, 1997 – and I've been a Mudcatter ever since. Mudcat has developed into a multi-faceted online community over the years – and I'm the first to admit that I don't like many of those facets. Still, the Mudcat has always been the best place to go to for folk music information.

Other people go to Mudcat for other things, but I go to Mudcat for the songs. The Digital Tradition Folk Song Database has grown to almost 10,000 songs, and Mudcat has thousands more songs that have not yet been added to the database. If you are looking for studiously accurate information on songs, look for the "DTStudy" and "origins" threads at Mudcat. In those threads, we do our best to present a number of versions of a song, each documented with source information and background notes. We have thousands of songs in the discussion forum that have been thoroughly researched and documented.

I used to love reading the "Songfinder" column in Sing Out! Magazine, drinking in the songfinding wisdom of Holly Tannen and Michael Cooney and Shelley Posen and Joe Hickerson and others. It was a real thrill when Joe Hickerson himself recognized ME in his column as an expert songfinder. And, in as much humility as I can muster, I think maybe he's right. In 16 years at Mudcat, I've found hundreds of songs, including original versions of songs that might not have been seen in over a hundred years. It's a thrill, and it always will be. That's why I love Mudcat. You, too, can be a Songfinder. Drop by, and give us a hand.

-Joe Offer, Archivist-
The Mudcat Café, www.mudcat.org

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 10:02 PM

Oh, heavens! Joe, now everybody will come! They'll overrun the joint! They...they...may be guitar players and banjo pickers!!! What have you done???

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Padre
Date: 24 Sep 13 - 10:15 PM

Like Joe Offer, I almost never read below the line - the overarching negativity on both sides of any issue just seems to suck all the joy out of the day. At one time, it was possible to specify that you didn't want to see the BS, but I can't find that option now. End of rant, If'm going back above the line now.

Padre

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 06:28 AM

I'm with Joe. The DT is priceless. The BS section can be hilarious (especially when Bobertz comes up with a good story - remember the drug-fuelled Christmas Tree saga?). Any BS thread that goes bad can simply be ignored...

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Claire M
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 06:51 AM

Hiya,

Why am I still here??
Cos I can talk about things I enjoy, that I always have enjoyed & always will, that I can't w/ many other people. I try to get on w/ most people, but I find it easier to chat w/ those who have similar interests.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: kendall
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 07:01 AM

The problem is, everyone is an asshole to someone.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 01:11 PM

Not true, kendall. I am scrupulously fair. I'm an asshole to everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 25 Sep 13 - 01:19 PM

Not true Eliza. You're a little darlin'.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 26 Sep 13 - 10:40 AM

A great big HUG to you Backwoodsman!!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Stringsinger
Date: 26 Sep 13 - 12:30 PM

See my post on the "Why I'm Gone" thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Mo the caller
Date: 26 Sep 13 - 06:38 PM

No, I never read threads that get that long (from bitter experience)
Even to make the comment that if whoever it might be is gone, then why is he talking about it - or maybe everyone else is talking to themself.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Raedwulf
Date: 26 Sep 13 - 07:15 PM

I still lurk occasionally. I just don't post much any more, largely because most of the people I used to enjoy debating with seem to have disappeared, and because interesting topics seem few & far between in the last few years. I always did lurk beneath the line, I'm afraid.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Charmion
Date: 26 Sep 13 - 07:21 PM

I'm still here because some of my favourite people hang around in this segment of the aether. Rapparee and Bobert, Jeri and the Stilly River Sage, gnu and Leadfingers, WYSIWYG and Joe Offer, Kendall and Eliza; all the cat-lovers and dog people; and especially the song chasers and obsessed collectors of Martin guitars -- my world would be rather small and dull without the Mudcat.

Sure, there's jerks here; jerks are to be found everywhere. I don't let them bother me, and -- fortunately -- I don't attract their attention. That's cool with me.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Sep 13 - 08:29 PM

Yeah, I am a glutton for punishment and thus...

...still here...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 27 Sep 13 - 11:22 AM

The global village needs an idiot, so....

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Mr Happy
Date: 27 Sep 13 - 12:41 PM

If you feel there's a dearth of interesting threads/discussions, then you're as well placed as anyone else to initiate some.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Sep 13 - 01:47 PM

It seems like many people take the summer off from mudcat. once a nip is in the air folks start tapping away again with the fireplace crackling nearby.

With the Gov shutdown due on Tue. lots of folks should have even more spare time.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Andrez
Date: 27 Sep 13 - 11:16 PM

Its nice seeing people accentuating the Mudcat positives for a change. As noted above its easy to eliminate the negative by just not reading let alone engaging in the BS negative threads. In real life there are ideas, people and music that we engage with and other stuff that we don't. Thats how it goes. For better or worse, it takes all kinds to make a community!

Cheers,

Andrez

With apologies to Johnny Mercer :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Apr 16 - 06:06 PM

The post on this thread from Rapparee is priceless.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: The Sandman
Date: 05 Apr 16 - 06:17 PM

because of threads like this
Musical technique hints and tips

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: gnu
Date: 05 Apr 16 - 08:34 PM

From: keberoxu - PM
Date: 05 Apr 16 - 06:06 PM

The post on this thread from Rapparee is priceless.
*********************************************************

Can you fill us in on which one?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Apr 16 - 11:19 PM

Not only am I still here...though I'm not posting all that often...Chongo Chimp is still here! Yes, he's everywhere! He sees you when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake. He even knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake! It's a big job keeping track of all you people, and I think Chongo deserves to be far better paid for it, don't you? Send your dollars to Chongo Chimp, 22 Bogart Drive, Apt 5-A, Chicago, Illinois....and be generous! He needs campaign funds, and Cuban cigars aren't cheap!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Andrez
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 01:41 AM

Is Chongo Chip running a Presidential campaign or have I mistaken him for that Drongo Trump?

Cheers,

Andrez

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 02:12 AM

where else can I go? I'm not on facebook, & I've never seen a site like this one.

Interesting to see the names on this 3-year old thread.

where are ClaireM, Eldergirl, Eliza ...

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 02:52 AM

Eliza's still here, Sandra. Posting several timesrecently in BS.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 03:02 AM

Compulsive & Addictive ——

Bugger·it!

≈M≈

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 07:47 AM

Yooohooo!! I'm Eliza under a different name (waves to everyone)
I'm a member now.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Charmion
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 07:55 AM

Hi, Eliza! So glad to see you all signed up and everything.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 07:57 AM

Welcome -- so now you are a real Cat at last!

x❤x≈M≈x❤x

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 08:02 AM

Yes, Michael. My three Siamese cats are quite proud I'm a Cat too.

I couldn't keep my old name of Eliza, as it seems there's a folk singer here who has had that username for a long time.

Love all those pink hearts and kisses!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 08:14 AM

I told my cat Cleo, & she miaows a welcome also. She's a black·&·white 'tuxedo' cat, but hopes your Siameses not too grand to accept a loving greeting from her.

❤☺〠☺~M~☺〠❤

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 11:42 AM

Smoky, Minty and Murphy are waving their paws at Cleo and singing a Siamese folk song in chorus for her.
They're not 'too grand' at all. They're little sods and wee on things, scratch up the carpets and howl in the night for attention.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: keberoxu
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 12:13 PM

I meant the post in which Rapparee responds to a post from Joe Offer.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 12:41 PM

When I'm pottering about in the house on my own...

Typing the occasional post on mudcat has got to be a bit of a better option than talking to a budgie..
and a lot less mess to keep clean and maintain... 😜

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 01:07 PM

Hello Charmion! :)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Bugsy
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 09:29 PM

Because, I spend nearly all my Mudcat time in the Music section and Very little time Below the line.

I value my sanity.

Cheers

Bugsy

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 10:35 PM

Shane McBride (Blind DRunk in Blind River) wants it to be known that he is not still here because: "Becoz I can't flippin' post as a flippin' GUEST no more!"

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Amos
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 10:50 PM

We steadfast and honorable citizens of Catlandia wish to make it known that Shane's omission from these hallowed ranks is no loss to anyone, as he was a noisome figment of no substantive merit.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Apr 16 - 11:34 PM

This is a touching and interesting topic.

now for something completely different and true;

George Mason University has named a law school after Justice Scalia in order to receive a 30 million dollar endowment.

They named it , American Scalia School Of Law, aka ASSOL.
Formation of a renaming committee is being discussed.


I was invited to post on Mudcat by (name withheld upon threat of dismemberment) . I advocated advancing traditional instruments with new materials, technology and ideas in a TED talk kind of way on Maestronet.com. While everything old is new again, new stuff is attacked. Showing these instruments was considered spam so I have not showed them since.


On the internet I am 6 inches shorter, 65 pounds heavier, illiterate, abrupt, a bigot for the left and a fraud compared to real life where I listen lovingly and make people smile.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 12:13 AM

Shane's life is not about merit, Amos. Merit simply doesn't enter into the picture. As Shane has often said himself, when he and his buddies prostrated themselves before famous heavy metal stars on tour and chanted in unison: "We're not worthy! We're not worthy!"

Rather, Shane's life is about unrestricted, moronic, indulgent self-expression of a totally unproductive sort...and he's proud of it, eh? He is fulfilling "the dream".

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 02:37 AM

Yoohoo Sandra from Sydney and Little Hawk! (waves enthusiastically)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 02:46 AM

You're enjoying this, aren't you Eliza? 😄

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 03:19 AM

Yes, Backwoodsman, I confess I am! The thing is, one gets quite fond of the regular posters on here. They're total strangers, I know, and could be ghastly in real life, but as presented on Mudcat, most are really friendly, interesting and funny.

I do like your fat squashy little additions (are they called emoticons?) I've no idea how one adds those. (hangs head in shame at internet ignorance)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 07:56 AM

Strangely, I've found that some of the people who appear combative and aggressive on here, are actually very nice in The Real World! I know a few members in real life, and I like them all.

Those emoticons seem to be something specific to my iPad (which I mostly use for surfing t'interweb), they are part of the pop-up 'keyboard' on the iPad and, presumably, they're available on a Mac too - I can't find a way to do them on my Windows 10 PC! Maybe someone else will know?

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 08:25 AM

I'm on a small white laptop thing called (I think) a Chrome. My husband is much more knowledgeable than I, so I'll ask him about emoticons when he gets home from work.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 09:30 AM

Ok.. I'm using Chrome browser, and downloaded this extension "Emoji Input by EmojiStuff.com"

In chrome..

select "Settings" in top right corner.
Then "More Tools"
then "Extensions"
At bottom of page select "Get more Extensions"

In the search box paste"Emoji Input by EmojiStuff.com"

that should give you a choice of that extension and a couple of others...

I've only used Emoji Input by EmojiStuff.com.
It's not perfect and sometimes a bit erratic in use.

Can't vouch for the alternatives - if better or not...??? 😕

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Stu
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 09:45 AM

I always think that were I to meet most Catters for a pint we'd have a great time. Over the 17-odd years I've been here I have learnt to play the bouzouki, started the guitar (but not for Irish trad - no way hose!) and learnt lots from people with far more knowledge of our traditions than I'll ever have.

I enjoy the rough and tumble below the line, but I keep a close eye on the music as this is where the real learning happens. I'm not going anywhere after all this time; I'm not sure anywhere else would have me anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 09:48 AM

I've had Windows 10 for precisely four days. I bought a new laptop three years ago, thinking my old Vista one was at death's door. The new one had Windows 8 on it. It was so horrendous that the laptop has spent three years in its case. I plucked up the courage to get it out again the other day. To my amazement it fired up, and even the battery's fine. I had to first upgrade to 8.1, then to 10, all for free, and all's well except that I'm at the bottom of the learning curve. And guess what: the old Vista one's still going strong!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 11:32 AM

😃😍😉 Wooooooooo-Hoo!!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: MikeL2
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 11:47 AM

Hi

Like the others above I don't get off on the unpleasantness that happens all to often.

I come because thankfully there are a lot ( but sadly diminishing ) number of sensible creative people who both make me smile and provide interesting information on many topics.

As others do I just ignore the unpleasantness which a handful of members create.

Mudcat is both a haven and friendship circle for me and long may it be so. ( They know who they are......or maybe they don't ???

Cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 03:28 PM

Ah punkfolkrocker, my list has 'extensions' on it, but in a faint print. When you click on it nothing happens. I reckon that facility isn't available for my little laptop.

Probably quite a good thing, as knowing me I'd be gaily scattering little squashy smiley faces all over the place like a silly teenager, not to mention OMG, LOL and ROFLMAO etc.

But thank you for your very kind instructions, it was nice of you to take the time!
:)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 03:29 PM

And backwoodsman, stop showing off!

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 04:05 PM

LOL! 😎

I went on my PC and googled 'Emoticons'. It came up with several sources, so I just picked one at random, downloaded and installed it, and Robert's your mother's brother!

Not clever, just lucky I guess! 🤗

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: gnu
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 04:40 PM

Thanks for that... keberoxu - PM Date: 06 Apr 16 - 12:13 PM

I am still here because I have made many friends over those 40,189 posts. The stories, the banter, the friendships that will last a lifetime. I came searching a recording of Garryowen as a Guest and I had answers galore in hours. One was so detailed I was smitten and I will never leave.

Over a decade and a half or so, I have experienced so much here. I learned of music, poetry and prose in a manner I would never have thought existed when I simply requested help with finding an Irish Trad song recording. I learned of the internUt itself, it's benefits and it's follies. I stepped way over the line a number of times dealing with trolls in my 'up in your Kent County Fuckin Face' manner and was treated with respect and compassion (read sympathy) by the Mudelves and Max. Over the years, they taught me to keep the Wildebeest calm... although, you know. >;-)

Mudchat helped me through some rough times after a surgery recovery in post-op went terribly wrong. Thanks guys... especially Rumanci... I will never forget how much you helped me in my recovery just by chatting with me after you finished those long late night work shifts.

I got some great stuff in the Mudcat Auction when I bid stupid amounts of money to make sure Max got his cut... I got a Bodhran for Dani once! That was very satisfying. The mandolin I got was fine and, when I had to give it up, I found a GREAT home for it. I got lot's of CDs and books too (autographed and I always asked for a "separate" CD or book to be sent and the auction to be kept going... that was back when I had cash before the operation that took my livelihood from me). I connected with so many people... Kendall! I watched his TV show years before and to become friends with him through Mudcat has been a joy! There are so many memories. Another that touches my heart is when I reached out after losing my ability to play and sing for a song that I wrote... LEJ went to bat and knocked it out of the park. It's a big hit here in NB.ca among those that oppose the practices used in our forests. Gee... I am starting to tear up.

I haven't the time to name all the names of the Mudcatters that have helped me grow as a person and continue to school me in matters beyond music... far beyond music.

Leave? Never.

Mudcat is commumity. This is Mudcat... Thanks LEJ.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 07 Apr 16 - 10:10 PM

I'm here because I'm not there. I tried to go there once, but when I got to there it became a different here, and what used to be here became a different there. So, I decided to give up and stay here. It's less confusing.

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: skarpi
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 04:53 AM

From the North Atlantic , I have watch the side ..for a long time , I med a lot of good people , that I can call my friends
learned many songs and story´s , traveled with amazing friends to many country´s and still playing and singing , like this weekend

I wish I could just do what I love to do most of all , sing and play music , but I live on a Banana Island in the North Atlantic , where the bananas run the Government and are ruin Iceland ...( Panama Paper s) ..so I was going to leave but it´s impossible to go ...don´t post as much I did but I always look once a day ...so love you all as always .... love and peace from the Banana Island ..Skarpi Iceland

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 06:30 AM

I went years ago. So I am told...

Skarpi! Good to see you :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!
From: Stim
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 12:47 PM

Little Hawk--I hope you will keep us posted on Shane. I know he will not register, because he does not register much of anything, except for mild surprise when one of his "unrestricted, moronic, indulgent self-expressions of a totally unproductive sort.." blows up in his face. His catch-phrase,"I didn't see that comin'" is familiar to emergency response teams throughout Southwestern Ontario.

Subject: RE: Used up old man
From: Joe_F
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 09:18 PM

Which is the real title of this thread -- the one in the list, or the one on the entries?

"Used up", my ****! I'm no bloody use at all.

Subject: RE: Used up old man
From: michaelr
Date: 08 Apr 16 - 11:18 PM

WTF is going on here? Has Mudcat been hacked? The "EU referendum" thread shows up completely blank. And this one has weirdly changed titles.

Subject: RE: Used up old man
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 03:53 AM

weird - I opened this thread wondering what it was about & saw the old title & posts from Senoufou who turns out to be our old friend Eliza.

dunno what's going on with the thread but so good to see you Senoufou who was once & still is eliza!

sandra

Subject: RE: Used up old man
From: Jack Campin
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 05:08 AM

I advocated advancing traditional instruments with new materials, technology and ideas in a TED talk kind of way on Maestronet.com. While everything old is new again, new stuff is attacked. Showing these instruments was considered spam so I have not showed them since.

Give us a link? Maestronet seems to be as old, big and complex as Mudcat (I'd never heard of it before) and there's no way I'll find your post with only that to go on.

Subject: RE: Used up old man
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 05:12 AM

I wonder which one of us the used up old man of the new thread title is referring to! And if he is still here? :-)

Subject: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 11:10 AM

Moderators, excuse me, but what the heck happened to the thread title? What was wrong with the original title?

Subject: RE: Used up old man
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 11:26 AM

Yeah... has a mudelf been drinking on duty.. or is there some tech problem that needs investigating

Subject: RE: Used up old man
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 11:43 AM

Beyond decoration I discovered there are some simple but powerful concepts one should obey for maximum benefits.

Sound plate: the flater the louder, plate tuning to 3 distinct notes is best.
the density of a sound plate is important (micro holes are better than solidity.) Low density vibrates best when balanced with a pliant varnish.. The back plate is to project sound back and not resonate. Ribs that grow thinner at the bottom of a fiddle or cello will project very well. Bottom + toward tail pin.

High frequency soundposts that go plink are key. As with the density of water sound travels farther. Having a star of david patterm in a higher density inside the sound pate distributes sound in a most efficient way. This can be achieved my leaving as little as2 tenths of a millimeter of material raised above the rest of the 2 plates. The center of the snowflake pattern should be approximately where the sound post will be. The addition of an ultra light low density sound post of a noisy poly foam material will enhance most fiddles when placed to the left of the end of the fingerboard between the top and bottom plates. (upper left quadrant toward the bottom right.(don't know why it works, it just does)

So those are some principles that seemed to work.
Some happened in due course in Cremona when wood was washed of its lichten by being transported downstream leaving empty holes where sap used to be.

In short, think of the instrument as a speaker and thin the contacts at the ribs and see the instrument like a reed that thins at the bottom.

A Strad or a Villiume is subtlety like a reed or a horn with a overall thicker top than the bottom overall. The ever so slight quality of this structure is all that is needed. Overdoing it, is no good.

Subject: RE: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 12:23 PM

Thank you, moderators! Much much better now.

Subject: RE: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 04:06 PM

Looks like two threads were combined. I'm trying to figure out why. The "BS: Why I'm not gone/still here!" thread was started in 2013. I thought the "Used Up Old Man" thread was started yesterday, but I can't see an original message for that thread. So, I dunno.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 05:13 PM

All used up

:D

Subject: RE: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 09 Apr 16 - 08:11 PM

thanks Joe, & thanks to Dave fr posting Utah's song which reminded me I really need to sort my CDs so I can find great stuff like Utah's music.

sandra

Subject: RE: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: Paul Burke
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 04:58 PM

This thread was started some years ago by the estimable Mr Happy. And I know that he was barred from Mudshit by an idiot "moderator" some weeks ago. Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone.. hey I quoted a reel foke song.

Subject: RE: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: gnu
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 07:25 PM

Mr. Happy was barred? Really? Why?

Subject: RE: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 10 Apr 16 - 07:58 PM

Mr Happy, barred? Some mistake, surely. If he's been barred then at least a dozen or more of us should have been barred before him. Elucidate, someone up there!

Subject: RE: Why I'm not gone/still here
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Apr 16 - 02:50 AM

He ain't been on since the 19th of March but that does not mean much. May be just having a break?