BS: no tv, does this make me eccentric

Subject: RE: BS: no tv, does this make me eccentric
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 01:53 PM

I may be a booby, Dick; but I feel that your assertion, not in OP but in the post preceding mine to which you were responding, that tv was

"passive ... about sit back and be entertained or not"

was overstated, far too sweeping, and delivered in a tone which, if not 'self-righteous', would do at a pinch until a self-righteous one came along.

All very well to copy-paste a whole day's programmes from one channel as if that made your entire argument unassailable. Would you like anyone [I can't be arsed, quite honestly] to print off a day's programmes from the History Channel, or the Languages Channel, or the Schools Channel, or the Discovery Channel? Or did you not know such channels existed. But, just for the sake of argument, let's look at something a bit more mainstream. What about

The BBC Television Shakespeare is a series of British television adaptations of the plays of William Shakespeare, created by Cedric Messina and produced by BBC Television. It was transmitted in the UK from 3 December 1978 to 27 April 1985 and spanned seven series.

Every one of the plays in the Shakespearean received a tv production featuring our most distinguished actors and directors.

Or let's just have a quick look at random at BBC1 for today and see what I can find --

>small>5.15 Songs of Praise. Aled Jones interviews the singer Paul Jones, who also performs

6.20 John Craven visits Jodrell Bank Observatory in Cheshire

9.00 Britain and the Sea: David Dimbleby sails along East Anglia's coast to explore how the sea inspired artists, transformed architecture and created a uniquely British beach culture

Three programmes of what I would unhesitatingly rubricate as undoubted intellectually and culturally highly worthwhile content; the last of them of a sort of visual actuality which would not be well-served by any other medium.

I am sure they all achieved respectable viewing figures -- all parts of series which they would not continue if not enough people watched them. What do you mean by dismissing the viewers of such programmes as a load of "passive" sheep who just "sit back to be entertained or not".

Sorry, Dick. Priggish; self-righteous; and all the rest. What 'mood' I may be in has no effect on my maintaining this as a statement of obvious objective fact. Mood & opinion don't come into it. It seems to me as unacceptable a formulation as some of the animadversions against your musical professionalism that you have recently objected to on various threads.

Anybody differ?

~Michael~

Subject: RE: BS: no tv, does this make me eccentric
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 02:34 PM

mr happy, iwas taking oneor two of the definitions of eccenrtic , out of the usual course, not conforming to common rules.
Michael, you interpreted my post as you thought fit, dependent upon your mood.nbow i consult todays programmes for bbc n ireland, that is what is available to me if i had a television.a veritiable feast of sport propoganda and religionand business and weather plus david dimbleby, plus soap
       06:00
       Breakfast 08/12/2013

       The latest news, sport, business and weather from the BBC's Breakfast team.
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       07:30
       Match of the Day 2013/2014, 07/12/2013

       Highlights including Man United v Newcastle, Chelsea v Stoke and West Brom v Norwich. (R)
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       09:00
       The Andrew Marr Show 08/12/2013

       Guests include Danny Alexander MP, Lord Kinnock, Vincent de Rivaz and Sting.

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       10:00
       Fern Britton Meets... Series 5, John Simpson

       2/4 Fern Britton talks to John Simpson about how his faith sustains him on the frontline.

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       11:00
       Sunday Politics Northern Ireland 08/12/2013

       Andrew Neil and Mark Carruthers with the latest political news, interviews and debate.
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    Afternoon
       12:15
       MOTD2 Extra 08/12/2013

       Mark Chapman and guests cast their eye over Sunday's two Premier League fixtures.

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       13:00
       BBC Weekend News 08/12/2013

       National and international news from the BBC.
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       13:15
       Bargain Hunt Series 23, South 1

       The teams are off to Marlborough in Wiltshire and Hungerford in Berkshire. (R)

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       14:15
       Homes Under the Hammer Series 16, Episode 18

       18/80 Martin and Lucy visit properties in North Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire and Kent. (R)

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       15:15
       Escape to the Country Series 9, Leicestershire

       11/25 Jules Hudson visits Leicestershire to find a house for three generations of a family. (R)

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       16:15
       Nigel Slater's 12 Tastes of Christmas 08/12/2013

       Nigel Slater shares the flavours that for him make Christmas a truly delicious season. (R)

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       17:15
       Songs of Praise Paul Jones

       Singer Paul Jones talks about how he went from militant atheist to devout Christian.

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       17:50
       BBC Weekend News 08/12/2013

       The latest national and international news stories from the BBC.
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    Evening
       18:10
       BBC Newsline 08/12/2013

       Local news worth watching from across Northern Ireland.
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       18:20
       Countryfile Cheshire

       The team are in Cheshire, where John Craven looks into the history of silk in the area.
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       19:20
       On now
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       Strictly Come Dancing Series 11, Week 11 Results

       Two couples compete for a place in the final five, and The Saturdays perform.

       Watch from start
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       20:00
       The Paradise Series 2, Episode 8

       8/8 Clémence returns to the Paradise and a moment of reckoning forces Moray to risk everything
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       21:00
       Britain and the Sea Pleasure and Escape

       4/4 David Dimbleby explores how the sea emerged as a source of pleasure.
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       22:00
       BBC Weekend News 08/12/2013

       Latest national and international news, with reports from BBC correspondents worldwide.
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       22:20
       BBC Newsline 08/12/2013

       Local news worth watching from across Northern Ireland.
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       22:30
       Match of the Day 2 2013/14, 08/12/2013

       Arsenal take on Everton at the Emirates, while Fulham face Aston Villa at Craven Cottage.
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       23:35
       The Good Shepherd

       Spy thriller charting the life of the man charged with heading CIA covert operations.
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    Late
       02:10
       Weatherview 09/12/2013

       Detailed weather forecast.
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       02:15
       Joins BBC News 09/12/2013

       BBC One joins the BBC's rolling news channel for a night of news.
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Subject: RE: BS: no tv, does this make me eccentric
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 02:38 PM

michael,mood and opinion do come in to it.
if you think the fare offered on main channels is educational, enjoy it, but do not expect me to do so

Subject: RE: BS: no tv, does this make me eccentric
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 02:45 PM

m the g m, I HAVE EXPLAINED WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO ME HERE IN IRELAND, IF I HAD A TELEVISION and what is available to me when i had paid my licence fee,SPORT PROPOGANDA WEATHER SOAPS DAVID DIMBLEBY ,COME DANCING,i am not impressed.
what is the relevance of talking about channels that are not available to me, I am explaining why I DO NOT WANT A TELEVISION., because what is on offer to me is CRAP

Subject: RE: BS: no tv, does this make me eccentric
From: GUEST,stirrupcup
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 03:33 PM

Is Dick Miles aware that he's broken at least a couple of Irish laws by publishing TV listings here?

It's 'propaganda', Dick.

Subject: RE: BS: no tv, does this make me eccentric
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 08 Dec 13 - 04:51 PM

sorry I admit it .. I have a monster flat screen surround sound and internet connected to it ... I bad

Subject: RE: BS: no tv, does this make me eccentric
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Dec 13 - 07:12 AM

I quite enjoy some TV programs without wanting to watch TV all the time. May be of interest to some to know that Free Sat is available in Eire and comes with a good list of channels that may or may not be of interest to others.

Cheers

DtG