BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!

Subject: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:53 PM

In 1690 French and Indian troops set Schenectady afire and no compensation was ever paid!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 08:58 PM

Yeah, and y'all never did a damned thing to get even with those Indians.

And half a continent isn't enough compensation?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:06 PM

Just how old is Schenectady?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,ED T
Date: 07 Feb 14 - 09:35 PM

Was there a Canada way back then? (Or a US of A?
It may be up to the Queen to go after the French?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 07:23 AM

HIM HIM HIM!!!! Draw near and heed well Her Royal Majesty.


As I know this discussion will get around to the subject of compensation for ransacking and burning down The White House during The Skirmish of 1812, I invite your president, Barry is it, to tea at the Governer General's cottage in the colony of Canada. I shall instruct him to use the good china which we took from said House.

That is all.


Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas, Queen, Defender of the Faith, Duchess of Edinburgh, Countess of Merioneth, Baroness Greenwich, Duke of Lancaster, Lord of Mann, Duke of Normandy, Sovereign of the Most Honourable Order of the Garter, Sovereign of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, Sovereign of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Sovereign of the Most Illustrious Order of Saint Patrick, Sovereign of the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George, Sovereign of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Sovereign of the Distinguished Service Order, Sovereign of the Imperial Service Order, Sovereign of the Most Exalted Order of the Star of India, Sovereign of the Most Eminent Order of the Indian Empire, Sovereign of the Order of British India, Sovereign of the Indian Order of Merit, Sovereign of the Order of Burma, Sovereign of the Royal Order of Victoria and Albert, Sovereign of the Royal Family Order of King Edward VII, Sovereign of the Order of Merit, Sovereign of the Order of the Companions of Honour, Sovereign of the Royal Victorian Order, Sovereign of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem.

PS I hear Jay Leno is looking for gigs. Bring him along. I do so like a good yuk.    Hugs and kisses... Bee

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 07:47 AM

On refection, if is the French that should appoligise to the Dutch for the raid, the Dutch who should appoligise for pushing the Mohican off the land to establish Fort Orange. GE could be blamed for the towns current downslide.


John Van Laak should appoligise for the official song:

Our Schenectady 

What a warm and friendly place it is to be 

Nestled among plains and hills 

With a beautiful river that always gives us thrills 

And stores and shops with all that one might need or wish to see 

And legends and tales and lots of history 

Oh Schenectady 

Our Schenectady 

Let us now plan and help to make it grow 

If we will all do our best 

Then others can do the rest 

For places to study and learn in 

Places to work and earn in 

Places to live in happiness 

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 07:49 AM

The last post can be blamed on me:)

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: MMario
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 08:04 AM

Schenectady was under English rule at the time; The attack came out of New France to the North...

if only the snowmen guarding the gates had fought back! But all evidence shows their resistance melted in moments.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 09:37 AM

Though, I suspect there are different versions, below is my understanding of the events.

In 1689 France and England was at war. English colonists in New York heard the news first and convinced their Iroquois allies to attack the French. Most French colonies were unfortified. 1,500 Iroquois attacked Lachine near Montreal, which became known as the Lachine massacre. Of the 375 inhabitants, 24 were killed and 76 others were taken prisoner. Fifty-six of the 77 buildings were razed to the ground.

following the Lachine Massacre, France ordered a retaliatory attack on the Albany in the British colony of New York. This war, the first in the British and French colonies, would come to be known as King William's War.

In February 1690 France, began an invasion. One hundred and sixteen militiamen and 96 Indian allies reached the fort at Schenectady and massacred 60 settlers and burned most of the British colonial settlement.

This led to more back and forth military raids and conflicts, which resulted in (what is now Canada) becoming a British colony.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 09:40 AM

"In 1689 France and England were at war". 
Excuse my French :)

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:19 AM

One hundred and sixteen militiamen and 96 Indian allies reached the fort at Schenectady and massacred 60 settlers and burned most of the British colonial settlement.

Sounds like a medium sized hockey riot in a major Canadian city. the kind they have when the team wins.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:30 AM

Thusly, The Big Smoke is safe on Hockey Night in Canada.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:44 AM

Canada (with the help of the original peoples, taught the French to play hockey.
Unfortunately, the lure of cricket limited the success of Canada converting the British to the same sport. What a pity :)

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:49 AM

Near as know, one does not engage in cricket during a snowstorm. That just wouldn't be cricket, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:55 AM

Ever hear of indoor cricket, gnu? It extends the cricket season into snowy periods.



Indoor cricket 

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:56 AM

Quite right, old chap. Jolly unsporting.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 11:05 AM

winter cricket in Canada 

In case you are looking for a winter cricket experience in Canada. Such a hardy lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 09:15 PM

Well I'll be damned! Hahahaha.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 09:56 PM

"Thusly, The Big Smoke is safe on Hockey Night in Canada."

LOL indeed they are!

Safe from a Raptors riot as well!

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 10:02 PM

Winter Cricket! Ha! Crazy flippin Bluenosers!


The French, Hockey?
The French? The French French? From France?

I don't think so. They might play at playing hockey but no more than the English.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 14 - 11:17 PM

Ahhh, but Les Canuckuois blaze the fastest game.

Wait a minute... how did this turn into a hockey thread? Wasn't this about war and destruction? Oh, yeah, right... kinda the same deal.

Sorry. It's just that winter has my boo-boo froze shut tighter than a nun's

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: JennieG
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 01:27 AM

How does one pronounce the name of the aforementioned town? I can pronounce - indeed, have visited - Penetanguishine, but have never tried to say or visit Schenectady.

Upon looking it up (because I am a curious person who likes to improve my knowledge) I find the name is derived loosely from a Mohawk work meaning "near the pines" or "place beyond the pines". I know of a song called "In the pines", so does that mean this is actually a musical thread which should be above the line?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 07:16 AM

In the pines
In the pines
Where the sun
Never shines
And you shiver
When the cold wind blooooowwwws.

That one?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 06:56 PM

skǐ-NEK-tə-dē, in the style of notation I grew up with

skɨˈnɛktədi, in the modern (Wikipedia) style

~ Becky in Long Beach

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 09 Feb 14 - 08:17 PM

Sha-neck-ta-dee. Each syllable pronounced separately and slowly. Europeons talk so fast compared to First Nations peoples that meaning is sometimes lost. Modern dictionaries don't cut the grass when I talk with my Native or French or German or Irish friends.

Yes, that is a derogatory typo. It is lost on many. It may offend some and it may gather disgust from some... Sha-nahk-a-day.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: JennieG
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 12:53 AM

Thank you, Becky......that confirms what I had guessed.

Gnu, that's the one! The longest train I ever knew, was on that Georgia line......

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 06:02 AM

""I became a so-called science fiction writer when someone decreed that I was a science fiction writer. I did not want to be classified as one, so I wondered in what way I'd offended that I would not get credit for being a serious writer. I decided that it was because I wrote about technology, and most fine American writers know nothing about technology. I got classified as a science fiction writer simply because I wrote about Schenectady, New York. My first book, Player Piano, was about Schenectady. There are huge factories in Schenectady and nothing else. I and my associates were engineers, physicists, chemists, and mathematicians. And when I wrote about the General Electric Company and Schenectady, it seemed a fantasy of the future to critics who had never seen the place." "
― Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without a Country

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 06:04 AM

Oops, last post was from me:)

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 08:36 AM

JennieG... my fav version of In The Pines.

Second place.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: JennieG
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 04:15 PM

Thanks, Gnu - love it - even though they barely touch on "In the pines"!

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 04:17 PM

I thought it had to do with his main character in Slaughter House Five being teleported constantly back and forth between as cage in an alien zoo on another planet and a basement in Dresden.

Silly me. Though its been 30 years or more since I have read Vonnegut. Maybe it was a jail cell en Dresden. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 04:42 PM

JennieG... the Cleverleys are the most talented entertainers I have seen in a long time. Their YT playlist does not include all the vids available. I have over 50 in my Cleverleys folder.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 10:05 PM

Mom & Dad lived in Schenectady when they were first married -- Dad was an engineer at GE during the war (WWII, that is).

There was a fire in their apartment... Mom blamed the landlady. Suspected that her (Mom's) subscription to The Daily Worker might have been the excuse. Not Canada.

(Mom was not a card carrier, but believed in hearing from all sides.)

~ Becky in Long Beach

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Feb 14 - 10:33 PM

Did the Indians play that strange version of hockey where it's done on ice? Surely lacrosse was the big game among them, but played for keeps?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 12:31 AM

No, gnu, not "Sha-" - Sch as in the American schedule, not as in the English schedule.

JR in Schenectady, where I will be doing a concert two blocks from home with Debra Cowan on Feb 21, hosted by A Place For Folk.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Anglo
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 12:40 AM

(Oops I lost my cookie)

So come visit!

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 07:18 AM

ice hockey 
lacrosse

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 08:25 AM

Real hockey.

Starts just about the time the storm is supposed to start... says only a foot of fluffies for them. No matter as the ice should hold the quip... it's now -22C (9AM).

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 11:59 AM

Real pond hockey is not played by adults wearing pads. There are no real pond hockey tournaments. IMHO.

In real pond hockey all the skaters are Keon or Richard all the Goalies are Bower or Plante.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 12:04 PM

Have a great show John Roberts!

Please report back on how well the town has survived the incursion by the dread French Indian Canadians? Did they leave their cultural mark? Can you by Pemmican or poutine there? Do they have a Timmies?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,ED T
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 02:11 PM

Is that the real temp. In Monkeytown, gnu, or is it the one with the wind chill one factored in? Regardless,it may spell the time to cover up the plumbers crack when one shovels:)

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,gnu on laptop
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 07:48 PM

-22C... no need to check on the WC temp if you intend to stay inside, Ed.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Feb 14 - 08:18 PM

Or you have your balls on brass monkeys.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 05:23 AM

"It was so cold, he had to jump start the cat."

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 08:07 AM

"It was so cold last night that the hookers were charging ten bucks to blow on your hands"

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Feb 14 - 09:06 PM

Having been in Churchill, Manitoba for a week or so I can't comment on the cold. My words still hang frozen in the air up there.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 08:29 PM

How cold was it, Rap?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 09:54 PM

It was so cold there was a line up of polar bears buying kerosene heaters at Crapadian Tire.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 14 - 10:23 PM

It was so cold the hot air from Ottawa died before it got to Saskatoon.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 05:32 AM

Rap... that is serious cold!

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 05:48 AM

It was so cold, the folks in the senate had their hands in their own pockets.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 10:26 AM

Its so cold they changed the anthem to
"Oh F*** its cold
Its very f***ing cold
Merde! Merde!      Merde! Merde!
Merde! Merde! Merde! Merde! Merde! Merde! Merde!

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Rapparee
Date: 14 Feb 14 - 11:36 PM

Research has shown that Schenectady was burned because the French and Indians were cold. They invited the locals, but the locals decided to hide in the woods instead of warming themselves at the fires of their homes.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 07:51 AM

Well, shit happens when you invade and steal. It's all about attitude.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 09:16 AM

British and southern colony folks seemed to have been up to some northern
Flambéing of their own during the period. Possibly, with the aid of some "corn likker".

Did the french teach the indians to Flambé or was it verse visa? That is a good flamber question.








cirque de flambe 

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 09:27 AM

The US has been struck by great cities burning before - Chicago, Baltimore, Boston, DC all come to mind immediately - but now we must add Schenectady to that list. Burned by savages from the North, the town, like all other American cities that burned, arose phoenix-like from its own ashes to make the US the Great Nation it is today, an example for the world and for all humanity. Indeed, an example even for space aliens.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 11:10 AM

Ya mean from outer space er yer Parliament of Canatopia? There's a shitload of em, nicknamed 'Conservatives'. Why I will never know. Funny nickname for cruel heartless ruthless greedy maniacal toady pricks.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 11:58 AM

Parliament of Cantaloupia?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,Ed T
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 12:08 PM

Parliament of Cantaloupia in the meloncolony of corporate capitalism :)

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: GUEST,ed T
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 12:12 PM

Sorrry about all my meloney-baloney.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Feb 14 - 02:33 PM

Mulrooney Baloney?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 01:25 PM

Francois Thurot, Privateer and French naval officer who invaded Britain


Not forgotton 

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 01:28 PM

Oops, not forgotten:)

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 04:06 PM

Francois Thurot, born in Dijon, but could he cut the mustard?

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Feb 14 - 11:21 PM

Why would you cut mustard? It just kinda scoops out of the container.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 01:23 PM

Well what about the Austro Prussion Invasion???

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: gnu
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 01:33 PM

Austro Prussion Invasion? Sounds like a lot of bull.

Subject: RE: BS: Schenectady Burns! Blame Canada!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Feb 14 - 03:03 PM

raparee, Are you thinking of American "Cheeze"?