BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 04:56 PM

In the beginning was the Word. And the word was

Sorry, what did you say Charles?

The word was with God.

Charles, you cannot ask "who were God's parents". God did not have parents.

Charles!!! Do not EVER let me hear you say that word again! God was certainly not one of those.

Let us start again.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

I've no idea where these waters came from Charles; or how there were waters without an earth. Or what God meant by "void" when he wrote the Bible. Please stop asking these inane questions.

Charles!!! You can not ask how, if God is Eternal and Unchanging, he could have created anything. That is mere stupidity. God is Omnipotent, and can do anything, and can even be surprised and angry IF HE SO WISHES.

Charles, this is boring. Being Omnipotent, God can change if he wishes, in order to be angry, which he was not before, and if he so wishes remain Eternally Unchanging throughout. You are too young too understand these things; sadly you have taken much from your wicked Grandfather, Erasmus.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 05:03 PM

Two things.

Suck it and see is a few miles down the coast from Mablethorpe.

In the beginning was the word. And the word was aardvark.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Stu
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 05:18 PM

The word was 'whelk'.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 05:37 PM

I thought it was Suckit ON Sea near Mablethorpe.

Still, you know what thought did...

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Musket
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 05:40 PM

Too salty

On sea like

Allegedly

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 05:41 PM

Steve Shaw: "I have gay friends and Jewish friends and Christian friends and all manner of friends, and they are friends because we are of like mind in that we do not inject prejudice into our dealings."

From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 04:46 PM

Aye, "suck it and see".

What else can be said?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 05:43 PM

I first read that as 'on sea like Anglesey'!

Funny old thing, the gnomish brain.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Musket
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 05:47 PM

Whelk can't be the first word as it doesn't begin with A, let alone AA....

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 06:01 PM

Abalone?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 06:05 PM

Surely, the first word in the book can be anything the creationists tell is it is? Personally, I think the first line is

"In a hole in the ground there lived a Hobbit..."

Makes more sense than "In the beginning there was the word" anyway.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 06:41 PM

Hmm. I see that yesterday's leftover sadsack from a sanitorium has reared his ugly little head here. Never mind.

Knock knock!

Who's there?

Whale kipper whelk.

Whale kipper whelk who?



[sings:]
Whale kipper whelkome in the hillsides...

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 09:49 PM

>>He's a complete twit, quite possibly with altered consciousness, Musket. it's rare that any post of his makes any sense. As an honest broker who only ever posts anywhere under his real moniker, I do wonder whether Jack The Twat, Ake, Goofus, Mig Bick, Keef, pete and Joe are all the same person. Or, at least, that they're all Joe's uncles. << Said Mr Steve Shaw.

We all know who is not a sane person.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 06 Apr 14 - 11:12 PM

Steve Shaw: "I have gay friends and Jewish friends and Christian friends and all manner of friends, and they are friends because we are of like mind in that we do not inject prejudice into our dealings."

He's a complete twit, quite possibly with altered consciousness, Musket. it's rare that any post of his makes any sense. As an honest broker who only ever posts anywhere under his real moniker, I do wonder whether Jack The Twat, Ake, Goofus, Mig Bick, Keef, pete and Joe are all the same person. Or, at least, that they're all Joe's uncles. << Said Mr Steve Shaw.

Sounds 'friendly' to me!!

Hey Steve, you forgot atheists!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Stu
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 08:22 AM

"Whelk can't be the first word as it doesn't begin with A, let alone AA...."

Ah, but who said the first word had to start with A?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 01:22 PM

Isambard the Aardvark said so.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Musket
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:20 PM

On that transatlantic subject...

There is a story, possibly grown in the making that an American tourist was touring The Bodleian Library at Oxford, and impressed by the architecture, asked the porter if it was pre war.

It is pre America, came the reply.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 02:50 PM

The porter should have asked the yank whether he meant the 1917-18 war or the 1942-45 war. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 05:01 PM

...or 1776 or 1812?

GfS

P.S. or when Harold of Hasting fought William of Orange?? (William the Conqueror)

GfS

P.S. I guess we, at least, know who won that one!.....1066

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Apr 14 - 05:47 PM

*sigh* Anyone else else spot one of goofus's personality weaknesses? :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Musket
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 10:12 AM

A disorder isn't necessarily a weakness. It can be quite strong, hence an issue.

On that particular nugget, it is merely a nationalistic trait regarding irony.

Must admit, it was funny to read.....

Goofus!, here boy! Where's your rocks boy? Eh? Go fetch!

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 11:31 AM

A perfect pair! One has nothing to say, and the other doesn't hear.

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Musket
Date: 08 Apr 14 - 12:31 PM

Due to the shallowness of the subject, no doubt.

What's up? Have you broke those rocks I gave you?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: frogprince
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 11:43 AM

"I do wonder whether Jack The Twat, Ake, Goofus, Mig Bick, Keef, pete and Joe are all the same person. Or, at least, that they're all Joe's uncles."

I'm fairly sure that Steve Shaw is being facetious with that. But am I the only person who "wonders whether" anyone who has a blanket reaction to that grouping of people which would lead him to say that just might be reacting more from attitude than from accurate perception?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 11:48 AM

In fairness, no matter what the provocation, it is a little harsh putting people in the same category as Akenaton.

Some things you just don't joke about.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 11:59 AM

This is discussing creationism?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 12:36 PM

SRS, these people have no real interest in discussing anything.

There are about three threads going on at present full of infantile nonsense. Now no one makes an abject fool of them selves for no reason, especially if they are reasonably literate.

I did warn the forum what the "gang" were up to some time ago....they are what we in the UK call "taking the piss",filling threads with inane chatter and gratuitous insults.

I think Janie described them as a "clique".....exactly so, small children often form "cliques" to exclude those they dislike or disagree with.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Greg F.
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 12:39 PM

Current discussion makes more sense than creationism, Sage. Perhaps folks are just tired of trying to debate a toddler.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 12:42 PM

Ake, if you have anything new to say on the topic, please speak up. If not, how are you better than the people you are criticizing?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 01:01 PM

Cappy Jack: "Ake, if you have anything new to say on the topic, please speak up. If not, how are you better than the people you are criticizing?"

The difference is that Ake has been accurate on certain matters...if that matters anymore. As I've said in the past, 'a political consensus does NOT make a fact, just a political consensus'...and if anybody isn't hip to politicians, and their 'honesty', in regards pushing their given political agendas, which is usually a cover story to hide the real motives(or just about anything), then they are just empty headed parrots wanting to appear as if they are on the 'inside' of the reasoning surrounding any given topic. When they run out of truth and common sense, they resort to infantile behavior of name calling and personally attacking the people who do have reliable source(s).

So to answer your question, Cappy, people who CARE and post truthful sources, to back up their claims of concern, generally ARE better people. When it comes down to it, who are you going to trust...somebody incoherently repeating 'talking points' or somebody to look beyond the 'talking points' usually false propaganda???
...and then when someone points out the truth, couple with common sense, some worthless airhead starts accusing them of 'hate' or 'bigotry', 'homophobia' or some other crap, which are hot buttons to rally the otherwise oblivious, mob of worthless airhead parrots.

...'We hold these truths to be self evident....'

Happy Politicking! ..(sorta like 'Trick of Treat')...

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Ed T
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 01:17 PM

""When they run out of truth and common sense, they resort to infantile behavior of name calling and personally attacking the people who do have reliable source(s).""....
""the otherwise oblivious, mob of worthless airhead parrots.""


Someone once told me that people often begin to resemble their pet. If you look closely....

Has anyone else noticed that people often begin to resemble those they argue with?

Well, maybe not look like them (as we don't have pictures to match the discussion)-but, possibly, over time, they begin to use a technique resembling the one they protest those opposing uses?

Just wondering?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 01:19 PM

Joe Offer (05 Apr 14) says of Akenaton that he "never expresses his thinking with a tone of hatefulness." He espresses his views calmly and rationally.
Moreover, his views are those of a vast number of people, and a majority of those of the older generations.
They will never respond to the likes of Musket, DtheG, Greg F and others who clamor with their insults and extreme negativity; these vituperative individuals have no conception of how to express their views rationally. Hopefully, they are juvenile; they have not reached a state of reason. What they are doing here remind me of the thugs who take advantage of a peaceful demonstration to smash windows, loot, and create havoc.

So, Akenaton, I do not agree with you (my parents would have), but your arguments are presented clearly and rationally.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Musket's gang
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 01:21 PM

We the gang do not wish to comment at this point as we are about to hold a gang conference on the subject of little people who consider themselves and their views so important that we had to form a gang in order to combat their supreme morality.

The gang will forward a press communique accordingly.

If anyone would like to join our gang, membership criteria is as follows;

Decent person who sees others as decent unless evidence seen to the contrary.

Member of a liberal plot.

Ability to see choice of lifestyle as normal not perverted.

Willing to cover up the real issues.

Someone you would enjoy a drink with.

Person who points and laughs at Christians.

Someone who sees others as equals.

Willing to leave a pub if the subject of our club walks in, wiping your feet on the way out.



zzzzz

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 01:28 PM

"never expresses his thinking with a tone of hatefulness."

Never is a dangerous word in such conversations. One exception destroys the statement.

"Person who points and laughs at Christians.

Someone who sees others as equals. "

The ability to hold two contradictory views at once and to ignore reasonable and well found accusations of hypocrisy?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Ed T
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 01:51 PM

Prejudices are what fools use for reason.

Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do.

No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.

The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere.

There are men who can think no deeper than a fact.

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.

Voiltaire quotes

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 01:53 PM

the likes of Musket, DtheG, Greg F and others who clamor with their insults and extreme negativity

Examples, please Q. Or are you just as guilty as others of stereotyping people without evidence? I, for one, have repeatedly told ake that I believe better education and research is the answer. He tells me that education does not work but believes that others can convince people to take tests without, presumably, educating them.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: gnu
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 02:03 PM

"No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible."

Oh I like THAT! I shall use it.. fer sure, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Musket
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 03:02 PM

Q reckons Akenaton's views are presented clearly and rationally.

Hate and bigotry will never evolve to decency whilst shallow fools appease hate as a valid viewpoint.

We have courts to deal with some valid viewpoints and wars to deal with some others.

So I shouldn't name call Hitler because he put his agenda forward clearly and rationally? He had a solution that included rounding up gay men. He thought them perverted too. He blamed them for problems shared across populations for that matter.

Godwin. (Just in case some smarmy twat wants to say it as well)

Before anyone says it isn't proportionate to compare the worm with the fuehrer, I wasn't. Hitler had the ability to form his own views and charm people who came across him.




Jack. Look at your last post and give me an essay on your understanding of irony? There's a good chap.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 03:08 PM

May I promote a schism faction that stipulates that many things are NOT choices but are genetic and therefore the more to be tolerated and protected?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 04:16 PM

Richard Bridge is correct. I have also stated that the difference is genetic and appears in 10-12% of the population. Toleration and equality should be afforded to them.

Vituperous shouting and condemnation of widely held views will never correct the problem.

Hate seems to be a characteristic of the 'musketeers.' They have no interest in rational argument.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: akenaton
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 04:58 PM

I'm sorry Q, but what is it you actually disagree with me about?

I hope you don't think I am "homophobic", or am printing lies about MSM infection rates, or perhaps its about the definition of marriage, or perversion?

I notice Joe, another poster whom I respect, voices the same disagreement with my views, without being specific as to exactly what he disagrees about?

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 05:42 PM

I cannot speak for the others but I suspect that we all disagree with you on the same thing.

You say that gay people are perverts. Not true.

You say that gat people are only interested in sex. Not true.

You say that gay marriage is not a real marriage. Not true.

How about that to be going on with? Care to deny saying or believing any of those things?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 05:46 PM

My Essay on irony,

Musket uses irony very well. It is always clear when he is being ironic. He is clever and leaves no room for doubt.



Bridge, a further measure of admiration.

Subject: : Shh.. Don't let them hear you?????????? naw
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 05:56 PM

I say let them hear you!

Let's hear all YOUR Creationist songs

I just so happen to have several song titles handy ;

Fossils are Fakes

Darwin the Harlequin

The Immaculate Big Bang

In Defiance of Science

The No Good Jesus Hatin Evolution Godless Blues

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 06:07 PM

In six short days He made it all
He worked 6 days them had a ball
Making up the evidence
To make Ken Ham get off the fence

You must believe every word is true
But just the words he tells you to
He will show you Heaven's Gate
But only if you please donate!

Creation, Creation! done in six short days
Creation, Creation! Lying bout it pays!

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Ed T
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 06:48 PM

"Cherish those who seek the truth but beware of those who find it." 
― Voltaire

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 06:52 PM

I hope you don't think I am "homophobic"

Nah. We don't think you're "homophobic". We think you're homophobic. In fact, we don't think it, we know it. Like you don't think gay "marriage" is gay marriage. Perhaps you should disable the speech marks key on your keyboard.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 08:28 PM

Akenaton- Certainly I don't accuse you of homophobia. You do not seem to accept current broadening of the meaning of the marriage contract.

This thread seems to have been started to attack you; it has the reek of the thugs in Clockwork Orange.

Another thread best forgotten and closed.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Apr 14 - 09:14 PM

"We think you're homophobic"

I like the way Steve Shaw says we. So full of hope. So full of optimism. That one day he would possibly be able to speak for anyone but himself.

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 02:31 AM

Although the thread has wormed its way into homosexuality again, and without going too far off track, homosexuality is not genetic, but behavioral. I've gone into depth with this on other threads...and NO ONE has produced ANY study to prove the genetics of it...it was suspected, at one time, so they (researchers)looked for it...came up dry, except one gene with three markers that is susceptible to the influence of hormones during pregnancy...and that influence has to do with the mother's emotional and nervous state during pregnancy.
So Richard, and Q, and Cappy brush up on your homework.
Before I get slammed for contradicting another popular notion of politics, just think about it, or do your homework...I've been round and round with this....and I could refer you to the threads where it has been covered extensively....complete with accusations from an airhead, to create a bias, because he had NOTHING!..(except his insistence)!
Sorry to pop your bubbles of righteous equality for all, based on genetics....it ain't happening...
THAT BEING SAID...the discussion IS about the transmission of HIV/AIDS...not the psychological make up of homosexuals...

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Shh.. Don't let them hear you..
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 10 Apr 14 - 02:36 AM

Oooops....I thought I was on the 'Transmission' thread, because this one, too, had wandered into homosexuality....what is it with those folk singers and their obsession with this topic....especially when they really know so little about it??

GfS