Goodall & Greven

Subject: Goodall & Greven
From: Fortunato
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 09:56 AM

Shopping for guitars I have come across two new names for me: Goodall & Greven. Has anybody out there come owned or played them? What do you think? (Yes, I'lm still shopping!)

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 10:33 AM

Also Fort, there are just a ton of smaller companies that make excellent stuff too......Lakewood, Breedlove, etc. I think Mark Roffe got a Goodall just awhile back. Try entering Goodall in the filter and reset for 6 months.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 02:27 PM

Hi "Nato". Both Goodall and Greven are HIGHLY respected mainstream independent builders. They both have been advertising for years in Guitar Player, Frets, Sing Out etc. I've never played an instrument by either of them, but in the world of luthierie, they're both in the top ten.
Rick

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 02:50 PM

While we're on about guitars, anyone know anything about the one I've got?

It's an "Angelica" - made in Japan, it says inside - but presumably at a time before Japanese guitars had Japanese names. Bought it in a charity shop for £10, but it's lovely to play. Model number 2854, serial number 226, and I'm p[laying itin the picture in the bbc archive.

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: Fortunato
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 02:59 PM

Thanks Rick,

Who are the other top eight? Martin, Larivee, Collings, Breedlove, Bourgeois and then? I won't ask the order! Always interested in your opinion.

regards Fortunato

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: Easy Rider
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 03:05 PM

I played a Greven, in Portland, last Summer. It was to die for!

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: Fortunato
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 03:08 PM

Thanks Easy,

Would it be your "desert island guitar"?

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: catspaw49
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 05:14 PM

I don't know which ones Rick is referring to, but I can think of an easy ten smaller companies with superb instruments. In no order......Bourgeois, Breedlove, Goodall, Collings, Lakewood, Santa Cruz, LoPrinzi, Gallagher, Lowden, Everett, Zeidler(got a LOT of bucks?), Larrivee......and what about your friend Grit, Rick? Not too shabby!!! Plus the biggies with great top end stuff too.

Have fun Fort!!!! I keep thinking what a good time you're having with this.......If you have any money left over....send it to me. Can't wait to find out what you buy!

Spaw

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: Matt
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 10:11 PM

El Mcmeen plays a Goodall. He tells me that Tippin is making the bossest OM models right now. Although I play a Santa Cruz, owning three, I have always dreamt of a Lowden 032 cutaway in German spruce and IRW. That Bourgeois OM cutaway that I played last summer screamed "Buy me!" in no uncertain terms.

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: Midchuck
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 10:16 PM

On the flatpick list, someone noted having seen an auction add for the tools, equipment, etc. of the Bourgeois shop. It appears that they may have gone under. Someone else had tried to reach them by e-mail and got no response. Hope it's no more than a nasty rumor, but....

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 22 Nov 99 - 10:29 PM

Well Fort, after I started thinking about it..make that the top 25! We live in the greatest instrument building era of all time. Bar none! The quality of some of these instruments is mind-boggling. The luthiers themselves have a pecking order, that appears to be based on at least some factors that we mortals are not privy to. From a price standpoint it would appear that Laskin, Wechter, Manzer, Cumpiano and Dunn are all shipping mid-range hand built guitars in the 6-8 thousand range. HoooBoy!!
Rick

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 02:13 AM

...And now that you triggered that thought...If you want some nice light reading and just plain great stuff, read Cumpiano's book on guitar making.

Spaw

Subject: RE: Goodall & Greven
From: Fortunato
Date: 23 Nov 99 - 09:31 AM

Oh No! More Luthier's names still, you guys are scaring me!
Rick, Thanks. I don't forsee ever sinking 8 big ones in a guitar, but I might hold off a year and spend a little more if I get convinced my "desert island guitar" or "new friend" has got to be in an upper price range. My '54 J45 has got lots of musicality left, so I can afford to go slow. Spaw I'll let you know for sure. You're right I'm having a great time. But get too worked up, I'm moving slow!

Cheers and thanks, Fortunato