BS: Dwindling BS section

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Nov 14 - 05:03 AM

But nice bastard who puts otiose asterisks in and then spells the word out in full...

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Nov 14 - 05:03 AM

Look, I think what draws people to this section of the forum, are other members views on controversial news items, or social issues.
Mudcat BS, can be a terrific debating platform, it's full of intelligent and well educated people, and it used to be a place where discussions ran to thousands of posts on many different subjects.
If we confine ourselves to Fluffy bunny threads or jam making recipes, the section will surely die, for lack of intellectual stimulation.

The advent of "Team Musket" some time ago, signalled a new departure.
I think everyone was aware that more than one person was engaged in a campaign to close down discussion of subjects which THEY thought should not be up for debate.
When it started, I and others warned that it would undermine the forum, excellent contributors like Little Hawk were driven away, as they did not wish to engage with aggressive bullies.

Little Hawk was right, because the tactics of the group were allowed to continue, right up until a few months ago when one moderator in particular started to get a handle on what was happening.
The strange thing, is that these people see no contradiction between their avowed support for "universal equality"...and their frequent denigration of women, older members, and people whom they designate as being of lower intellect.

The behaviour of a section of the membership has been disgraceful in giving tacit support to this abusive trolling....mostly aimed at me but also to anyone who offered any support to my right to post views validated as far as possible by official figures.

I can handle the curses, the death wishes, the libellous claims about cruelty to animals, the snide references to my sexuality, and all the other tactics employed by "Team Musket", but many have not been raised in as tough a "school" and few now have the strength to air views which may run against the predominant view of the membership.


Follow this course, and you end up with Fluffy bunnies and jam making, for breakfast lunch and dinner, "Team Musket" will vanish, leaving an emasculated forum......job done!

Personal abuse is always wrong on this sort of forum....we are ALL intelligent people.
Multiple personas, used as a tactic to troll and silence debate should never be countenanced.....Ake.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Musket
Date: 02 Nov 14 - 05:01 AM

Fook me. Three personalities and Brendon still gets a bit wrong, that doesn't apply to any of us. No matter. Ian does post slightly more than his 33.3% and only he opens PMs. The bits about where we are coming from, our knowledge of some subjects etc is, as Steve says, not hiding. If an astrophysicist states something about dustbin collections and a dustbin man does, you need to give weighting to the source of the two comments. Of course, when someone prints confusing bullshit on a subject you happen to be a bit of an expert on, you then get called for bragging when you point out why you are in a position to be more definitive. (As opposed to being right. You have to live in Hertford in order to have the self assurance to be right every time.)

A bit like brass. People come on saying its everybody else's fault they are a failure, but anyone who has a bob or two is scorned. Interestingly, such nuggets come out as replies yet are seen as boasts. No matter. In the words of Ian Hislop when challenged about his lack of Twitter and Facebook, "You don't have people on the Internet, just mates and cunts."

Sorry to Mike for not posting for a while. It is a waste of good groundbait to leave the river bank after scattering it. Especially when the fish seem to be biting.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw nice iPad guy?
Date: 02 Nov 14 - 04:08 AM

I think I'm very nice too. But I can't be sure, so I'll settle for "nice b*ast*ard" for now. That should cover it.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Nov 14 - 12:44 AM

Ed T: "It makes much more sense than gfs' second last one."

Hey...One man's ceiling is another man's floor.
Sorry some of the self proclaimed smart guys can't seem to decipher it... your head may be shaped like a light bulb..but you ain't very bright!...either that, or you are playing stupid...BTW, no fair cheating!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 10:01 PM

I wouldn't be any nicer than I already am....

'nice' is my default personality...


In fact if I used my real name, I might just be a right miserable aggressive ****

You're much better off with punkfolkrocker, he's almost likeable...

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 07:08 PM

Cheers, Brendan!

As for that longer post of goofus's, it's nice to see him come off drugs for twenty minutes in order to post. Didn't help him much, but hey...

Now look at here, y'all. My sentiment is not that we should all be suddenly revealing our real names. That is not the world in which we currently exist on mudcat. I fully get that. I'm lusting after a rule-change whereby we all put our names in our profiles, not necessarily up front on the forum. Once that kicks in we'll all feel differently. And we'll all be nicer to each other. As nice as me now!

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Janie
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 05:37 PM

Well, the BS section may be getting shorter, but this thread sure isn't. One of Us Cannot Be Wrong

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,BrendanB
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 04:30 PM

I meant scatological, obviously. (Avoid reading theological studies over the weekend, it's bad for your controversy muscles.)

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 03:33 PM

GUEST, 01 Nov 14 - 12:06 PM

Took a look to see who you are. Good to see you and welcome back!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Ed T
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 03:31 PM

A good post Cthulhu.
It makes much more sense than gfs' second last one.
;)

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 03:23 PM

The resident Goofup keeps saying the same thing over and over. He could save time and effort if he just had a rubber stamp made.

He's a one trick pony. And that one is dumber than a loud, smelly fart at a formal banquet.

Cthulhu

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,BrendanB
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 03:22 PM

By the way, the B stands for Buckley. I do agree with SS. (Oh, that was unfortunate in a teutonic sort of way).

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,BrendanB
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 03:17 PM

Haven't been around for a while. What a hoot this thread has proved to be.   So Musket is a conglomeration is he? That explains his careers as a miner, an entrepreneur and senior NHS official - all at the same time. I just thought he was a self-obsessed monomaniac, now I assume they all are. (Purely as a matter of interest, which one of you has a mouth like the lining of a sewer? Just askin'.)
Now then, this is really difficult. I find that not only do I agree with Steve Shaw but I am impressed with the courteous and reasonable way in which his posts are couched. (I would have said that even if I wasn't going to Cornwall next Summer and hoping to find some sessions!)
To those who believe that BS is in its death throes, relax and calm down. There are a lot of people who contribute terrific posts to this section, .Bill D, olddude, gnu, Joe Offer,(me!) and others. Fundamentalist God botherers and guest from sanity aside, most posters seem to be opinionated but sane. Things grow, they change, they develop. If BS becomes too obnoxious, eschatological or offensive it will wither and die. At the moment it seems to be in rude (sometimes very rude) health.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Ed T
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 03:05 PM

A good one gfs. :)

Have you ever considered using your stellar talents for professional comedy?

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 02:55 PM

Ed, What part didn't you get??
maybe the fact you didn't 'get it' is because you're waxing political...and therefore being dumbed down!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 02:47 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Ed T
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 02:35 PM

LOL-What a ""splat" that last post was gfs.

Do you ever look back and read some if your classic, one of a kind, posts, and try and figure them out? Its kinda like abstract paintings, where the the so-called "artist" just throws paints randomly at a canvas.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 02:21 PM

That's right!....Get your identity figured out by your local cartoon!

Political hacks....aren't you tired of them yet???...I know!...try the 'War on Woman' hoax some more....or try to say that the reason people don't like Obama is because of his race(s)...God forbid if you say the reason you don't like him is because of his incompetence and general failed policies, whether it be domestic OR international!!

See, if you criticize him for anything, the REAL racists will accuse you of being unfair to him and racist....even though the ONLY reason they voted for him was because of his race(s).

Now who exactly are the racists????

If Akenaton expresses health concerns, in regards to homosexuality, he is automatically branded 'homophobic'....how childish is that???

If Keith posts about Israel, it could only mean one thing...he must be anti-Hamas!

The stupid and oft ridiculous claims that the 'so-called liberals' that somebody MUST be a victim, and that they are the only champions of the underdogs, is nothing but delusional myths!....

....and they aren't even honest enough to see it for what it really is, and wise up...(and why not?...everybody else sees the bull-crap. They target a group, trying to convince voters that if they don't agree with their fraudulent assessments, of victim-hood, then you are labelled a bigot or something else equally as stupid!

..Speaking of STUPID.....try looking in the direction of those who blindly blather forward, pointing fingers, calling names, and trying to demonize those who are using common sense....common sense...??..you know, that thing that political ideologues can't seem to get a grasp of!

GfS

P.S...and the 'Dwindling BS section' has suffered from the bozos who coral themselves together into one boring chanting chorus of old talking point puking, and mess up the forum!....and the people who they should have been listening to, complete with substantiating, factual links, have gotten tired of talking to the intellectual and moral equivalent, of eight year-olds....with dyslexia!!

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: olddude
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 01:57 PM

What a fucking pathetic excuse for a thread this is now you see why people leave. Is there anyone with common sense to close it. I guess not. Boy I miss spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Ed T
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 01:42 PM

Whoz you? Well, there is a test:


what's your real identity? 

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 01:33 PM

no comment

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 01:10 PM

@ Steve·the·Officious ····························


Grr·ROARrr·Rrr!

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,achmelvich
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 01:01 PM

yes i remember the anti-nazi league, rock against racism and blair peach. i also remember 'the leveller' - a grainy but interesting left magazine at the time (not to be confused with an ex-poster on here) those days were the only time in my life when it has been trendy to be a lefty. i'm still a lefty but have never been trendy since. it's quite worrying to think how much time i now spend in the 70s and early 80s when music was good and society was fairer, people had decent houses and the politicians weren't all identical. i'm becoming a melancholic old bore - waiting for my grandkids to come along and ask 'and what did you do in the thatcher wars?' whatever i did then it has to be better than what we do now - waste time squabbling on the machine, signing sodding e-petitions and complaining about being let down by labour and the guardian

peace, love and revolution

pete barnes - if you insist and if it matters...

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:58 PM

A LONDON BUS in Austria......perhaps it got left behind from a " summer holiday".....

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Steve iPaddy fuddyduddery
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:42 PM

Mike biting is what amplified harmonica players accidentally do when they're slightly pissed.

The great thing I've noticed about the interwebbie thang is that there is no obligation to answer silly questions. I've also noticed that the more times you ask for an answer the less likely it is you'll get a sensible one. In other words, knock it off, Leo. You're a mane in the neck.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:27 PM

Once again ---


Ian -- What is 'Mike biting'?


ANSWER!!!!! ANSWER!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Musket
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:24 PM

My dear Goofus.

Don hasn't posted on this thread so why are you here?










One trick pony...

What's the weather like in Dumbfuckistan?

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:23 PM

Oh...and check this out....three days before the 'election' that will shift the balance of power away from the Democrats, and other 'so-called liberals'....and not one thread about it......

Interesting!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:21 PM

Musket, your posts are becoming more gnomic & incomprehensible than ever. Who are the 'he' referred to & the 'you' addressed in your last one? On what topic?

You really can be the world's most unconscionable boring·old·fart when you so resolutely set your mind to it.

To avoid misunderstandings: that was not intended as a compliment.

Either afford rational answers to direct & rational & perfectly comprehensible questions, please; or go away and play with yourself -- in any sense of that phrase you may care to comprehend.

≈M≈

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:14 PM

Oh no!!..Another politically based avoidance of giving a straight answer!!

Avoid an answer...change the question, attack the person asking, or raising the question, and then attack them (falsely) of being some sort of racist or bigot....old, old and tired and worn out, 'so-called liberal' tactic.

I think the referendum on the phony version of what is being passed as 'liberalism', in the upcoming elections, in the U.S., should tell you something about how sick and tired the public has gotten over the stupid political bullshit, the people have finally gotten to....and the narrow minded blockheads still don't 'get it'!

GfS

P.S. Stop scratching your head, pretending that you can't see why....

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:06 PM

Just read this from top to bottom and I can see why postings are down in this section take look at youselfs.
Been a member here many years especially, when good DIscussions took place rather than name calling like children. Many kept there identity secret but those who where not bothered went to gatherings sat in pubs talked about and played music and all where know by their mudcat i D . just because you put a real looking name up does not make you real!

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Musket
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:04 PM

I reckon he has posted the most self explanatory post ever.

I didn't necessarily want you to answer your own question but thanks anyway.

😂

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 12:00 PM

Mike baiting ?

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 11:52 AM

'most threads when they degenerate tend to drift into extensions of recipe threads or Mike biting.'

Ian -- What is 'Mike biting'? No mosquitoes round here at this time of year.

..,,.,

repeated from previous thread, as not answered yet.

I think I should be told...

≈Me≈

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Musket
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 11:18 AM

A hat trick is what I expect of a Sheffield Wednesday striker.

Allegedley..

Otherwise, very droll, troll.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 11:11 AM

Musket: "Funny that you didn't address the following trolls aspect Goofus. You missed out there...."

Well I was being polite....I wasn't going to single you out.

I guess he thought that if he accuses someone, that it hides the fact that he is what he accuses others of being!!

Old common political hat trick, eh, Ian?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,punkfailedspeller
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 10:15 AM

'politiced' ??? obviously meant to be 'politicized' - thought I 'd corrected that... oh well....

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 09:23 AM

Steve - Blair Peach ?, bloody hell,... that names's a memory jogger...

I can see I've got a fair bit of google reading and reminiscing to do this afternoon..

ANL / Rock against racism was a massive life changing catalyst
for some of us provincial small town A level students..
Right just afer me and band mates were already starting to get politiced through doing
Govt & Politics 'O' level courses..

Reminds me, might still be a near unbroken run of 1970s NMEs in me mums attic..
That's something for the social/cultural historians to drool over...

Names - the daft thing is parents gave me and sibling Biblical names
even though they were young post war idealistic lefties
and refused to get us christened on principle....???

My wanky/wonky sense of absurdist humour must be passed down in my genes....???

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Musket
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 09:15 AM

A pedant may spot a difference but the one on the right is familar. Obviously, no trams or trolley buses outside the museum road though.

Of course, and especially if M'Unlearned Friend Bridge is reading. My fascination with buses only extends to museum pieces. Not today's buses. Can't be doing with cohorting with the proletariate what?

🚎🚌🚍

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 07:50 AM

We have London buses driving past our house on open days.

Such as this one I assume, Musket?

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 06:41 AM

It was one of those with a big hole at the back with a pole for the bus conductor to swing on as he laughed at your miserable attempt to run along the street to catch the bugger up.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 06:37 AM

I don't want to know your bloody name, punkfolkrocker. All I'm doing is making suggestions for curbing the alleged bad manners and trolling. As it happens I was a bit of a leftie in the golden seventies meself (Blair Peach was a mate of mine in Teachers' Rank And File and the ANL -remember him?). I'm a bit more of a Prosecco and Tesco Simply Garnacha socialist these days but I still like to stick me bonce above the parapet every now and then - under my real name! Yeah, I know we don't all live in inner cities. We sometimes prattle on about the Big Principle of free speech. Nothing curbs free speech more than the fear of speaking out. Of standing up to be counted. That's when you know the terrorists have really got you.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Musket
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 06:36 AM

Mike. Try not to wee when writing letters to newspapers eh? Many letters are getting piss poor these days as it is.

Although one I read last week made me smile. The guy wrote that the internet was down for a couple of hours so he went downstairs to speak with his family. They seemed like nice people....

Steve. Was it a routemaster?

Cards on table. I live a few hundred yards from a trolleybus museum and yes, here oop North, We have London buses driving past our house on open days. (They have branched out into old diesel buses too.) I keep trying, unsuccessfully to retire and one thing I promise to do is be a volunteer there, playing with the oily bits.

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: DMcG
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 06:29 AM

Two weeks ago we came across a London bus in Salzburg Austria. That's the problem with mobile icons: they get to be more common elsewhere than the original (especially if you mean Routemasters)

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 06:23 AM

You say that, Musket, but one day, just before setting off from work, I was having a natter with another teacher. Probably about Ofsted or something. Anyway, he sez something like Ofsted finding us brilliant was about as likely as getting run over by a London bus in Bude. Twenty minutes later I was driving through Bude (you bloody know what I'm going to say, don't you...), and guess what was parked in the industrial estate...

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 05:24 AM

Steve: Can't wee where writing a letter to a paper making a perfectly valid point is acting like a twat. But I suppose to real twats like those 'Extreme' people the rest of us are twats at that.
.,,.,.

'most threads when they degenerate tend to drift into extensions of recipe threads or Mike biting.'

Ian -- What is 'Mike biting'? No mosquitoes round here at this time of year.

≈M≈

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Musket
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 03:30 AM

Funny that you didn't address the following trolls aspect Goofus. You missed out there....

👹

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 03:15 AM

Musket: "After all, the Jim v Keith roadshow hasn't entertained us for ages."

...as well as you???

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Dwindling BS section
From: Musket
Date: 01 Nov 14 - 02:15 AM

To be fair you would be rather unlucky to be knocked down by a London bus in Cornwall. Of course, as you stagger to your feet from the first one, another two in quick succession finish the job off.
😇

The only time I heard Dick Gaughan tell a joke was when he stated that if the English want their independence let them have it.

You know, looking around I'm not sure the BS section is dwindling after all. Plenty of threads that don't have silly or outrageous comments that need challenge. Granted, when some of us chip in, our following trolls do what they do best and follow us but most threads when they degenerate tend to drift into extensions of recipe threads or Mike biting.

It's only when pete brings Jesus to the party or the worm manages to slip in a bit of anal sex that threads get weird. After all, the Jim v Keith roadshow hasn't entertained us for ages.