BS: Buzz Words

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Musket
Date: 09 Nov 14 - 02:55 AM

Your friend wallows in ignorance.

Surely its THTAIRTH

😇

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Mrrzy
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 09:59 PM

That wasn't me!

I have a friend that has a sign above his sink that says, THINK! Then he has one over the stairs, it says THTAIRS!

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,HiLo
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 09:54 AM

Hello Bert, thanks for the response. I assumed it was an attempt at French pronouniation, but dropping the h dosen't quite do it. I just wondered why the attempt at french rather than just saying it in English.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,#
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 09:47 AM

Eyetalian.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,#
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 09:26 AM

"Mrrzy, if warmth is a word then why isn't there a word coolth?"

Don't let Bert foolth you :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 09:11 AM

if warmth is a word then why isn't there a word coolth?

There is. Google for it.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 06:14 AM

1.   'erb is NOT the French pronunciation (which sounds more like 'airbe').

2.   If a puzzle wasn't puzzling, would it be a puzzle?

3.   'It reminds me of cop-speak--- "at this point in time the intoxicated individual exited his vehicle."'
I don't know about US cop-speak, but in the UK they would say 'at this point in time the intoxicated individual has exited his vehicle'. I don't know why they do this but it does irritate me.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,Bizibod
Date: 08 Nov 14 - 05:29 AM

I've always felt warmpth is warmer than warmth.Much more nest-like :)

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Bert
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 09:53 PM

Mrrzy, if warmth is a word then why isn't there a word coolth?

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Bert
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 09:51 PM

HiLo 'erb is just the French pronunciation. It is very common it the Southern States.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Bert
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 09:50 PM

...but I abhor the English "vedge"...

Michealr, The term comes from WWII, when cans (tins) of M & V, (meat and vedge) were an important part of wartime diet.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 08:55 PM

Why O why is the "ouster" the fact that someone got ousted, and not the person who did the ousting? Shouldn't it be an "ousting" if you've been ousted?

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 08:12 PM

"I"ran

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,Mrr
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 07:52 PM

Ya, you betcha, I've been to MinnesOta

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,DTM
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 07:17 PM

Canada, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw man of less words
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:46 PM

like

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:42 PM

Liberry

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Ed T
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:04 PM

Whatever

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw language militant
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:02 PM

Deteriate.
Pryminister.
Febry/Febyouerry.
Dawn tomorrow morning (a particular affliction of the BBC Spotlight weatherman).
6am in the morning.
Various different...
10 items or less.
(from a long time ago...) Sir Frawncis Chishhter
Superstar (esp. when intonated by that unspeakable professional tyke Michael Parkinson).
Any bloke called Ralph who does not insist that it's pronounced "Ralph".
Sekertry.

Christ, I feel better for that.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 01:36 PM

Thanks to Thatcher, "reform" meaning "fuck it up beyond repair and make sure that as many of my pals as possible get their snouts in the trough".

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Musket
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 01:08 PM

Huge difference between flexibility allowing "verbing" of nouns and a limited vocabulary meaning you have no other option. It's an import, this verbing everything and when you can't verbalise, stick a -wise on the end.

To be fair, I have made good beer money out of bullshit bingo games at public sector conferences and presentations. If it weren't for such terms, especially as mumbled in revered tones by management consultants, many of us would be bored as we couldn't play bullshit bingo any more.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Penny S.
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 12:56 PM

Gifting, gifted (not when used to describe people with gifts). What's wrong with gave, given and give? And why have so many people picked up on it, after whoever used it first?

Mind you, "The government gove the schools a great deal of hassle" might be a satisfactory alternative.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,DTM
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 12:17 PM

Confession Corner here:
Alas, I was guilty of 'verbing' recently when I texted my daughter to say that the grandkids were having fun bouncy-castling.

On reflection, I can now understand why folks want this type of hybriding 'verb'oten. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 03:18 AM

Ah -- I wondered who'd be the first to spot that, Pike...

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 03:17 AM

Don't see that verbing nouns is "a problem". On contrary, I have always thought it a very fine feature of our exceptionally flexible language. As have said before, an often-used trope by Will Shax. Others have copied it, so that the French now have the verb weekender (pron 'wee-con-day'), e.g; a double borrowing from us.

≈M≈

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Musket
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 03:15 AM

As I'm here and just been on an adjacent thread.

How the hell do you have a "puzzling puzzle?"

Only asking....

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Musket
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 02:19 AM

Strategize (strategise.). Wonderful that it was used in a post to moan about other buzz words.

Turning nouns in to verbs (verbing!!!) has always been a problem.

Although since I went on a course, I no longer have problems. They are resolution opportunities apparently.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 07 Nov 14 - 12:40 AM

It is what it is.

I'm just sayin'.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,#
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 08:57 PM

And I ain't too fond of the apostrophe in it's in my last post.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Mrrzy
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 08:49 PM

Strategic target is a redundancy, no? I mean it's hard to target something without strategy, and it's hard to have a strategy without having a target about which to strategize...

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,#
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 08:46 PM

Todally. I am not too fond of todally. Like todally not too fond of it.


It might be an interesting turn around to list newer words that we do like.

One that comes to mind is tasked. The verb has been around for near eight centuries, but I've only noticed it's use [They have been tasked with constructing a bridge over the creek.] in the past 25(?) years or so.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 08:32 PM

Repackaged objectives called "strategic" objectives

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,DTM
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 06:55 PM

I heard a new one today in the context of something to do with work being stalled. "The ball was on the slates"
Eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 05:55 PM

Entirely eludes=really F'n eludes.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 05:50 PM

Delighted to have afforded you some innocent amusement, Steve ---

but its nature entirely eludes me!

:-) ritebak 2U...

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw amused
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 05:46 PM

'Sea-change' may have adventitiously acquired a certain emotive resonance

I sincerely hope you don't talk bollocks like this either at home or at your local Monday Club meetings. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 05:33 PM

The euphemism I respond a bit adversely to in that context is "helping the police with their enquiries". As a child, when I read that someone was doing that, I used to think: Why, how nice of them. My impression is that that get-out isn't used by the press so much these days.

'Sea-change' may have adventitiously acquired a certain emotive resonance, but it originated from a misunderstanding of what Ariel in The Tempest was actually singing about.

≈M≈

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 03:45 PM

Locally, I often hear, the person of interest in the crime investigation is known to police.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 03:42 PM

Same thing, Jeri. News media use "alledgedly" for the same reason they use "suspect." To avoid potential law suits.

But the same potential for law suits holds for anyone who jumps to the conclusion that a particular person is guilty of a crime, says so, and that person is later found to be innocent.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Ed T
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 03:37 PM

I threw up in my mouth, bad language source discussion:

Bad lingo 

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw circumspect
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 03:35 PM

You do have to be slightly careful about pinning a crime on someone before they have been through the judicial process. Thus "alleged". You wouldn't really be wanting to compromise the prospect of a fair trial, allowing criminals to get off on technicalities.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 03:28 PM

It's "the subject allegedly committed the crime." What gets me is when someone just throws "allegedly" in hither, thither, and yon. "The bank was allegedly robbed"... no, it was effing robbed! The alleged jerk in the alleged ski mask allegedly did it.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Amos
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 02:58 PM

"Sea change" is a fine word with a very different sense to it than mere change.

My pet peever of the day is the use of "great" for anything from birdseed to coffee refills to mediocre performances of "Wagon Wheel" using a fifteen-dollar guitar that has not been tuned and a celluloid flatpick used only as a rhythm instrument. Greatness used to have a meaning in human affairs, but the soul of greatness is gone from our language.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 02:57 PM

No, I'm afraid YOU are missing the point.

In a criminal case, there can be several "suspects," and no matter how certain you may be, if you go around trumpeting that so-and-so, one of the suspects, did the deed and it turns out later that he or she is innocent, that person can sue your socks off for libel and slander.

This is why the police, even if they caught the perpetrator red-handed, refer to him or her as "the suspect" until a judge and jury hears all the evidence and they render a verdict.

"Innocent until proven guilty."

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 02:43 PM

I hate the word proactive.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: meself
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 02:05 PM

You missed the point. If you say the suspect committed the crime, then you are saying that the suspect committed the crime.

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 01:35 PM

Bill just beat me to it. "At this point in time" instead of "Now." I have a close relative who is given to this circumlocution.¬ OY!!

The reason that newscasters and reporters use the word "suspect" when it's pretty certain who the "perpetrator" is, is that should there be a case of mistaken identity or mis-identification and someone else did the foul deed, the "suspect"—mistakenly named by the reporter—could sue the reporter and/or his employer for libel. With "suspect," the reporter is off the hook. But naming him as the perpetrator when it hasn't yet been proven in court is risky.

A caution I recall from my days in broadcast news.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 12:47 PM

"at this point in time"
It reminds me of cop-speak--- "at this point in time the intoxicated individual exited his vehicle."
What's wrong with NOW?

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: Jeri
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 11:10 AM

"I threw up in my mouth a little bit"

eeeew. What is it they say? "Don't tell, show". (And then, go away.)

Subject: RE: BS: Buzz Words
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw cringeing
Date: 06 Nov 14 - 10:58 AM

That's the best of the lot, punkfolkrocker, so well done you! Aw, bless!