BS: my mysterous dna

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,#
Date: 17 Dec 14 - 11:20 AM

I hope you never find out you were adopted.

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker
Date: 17 Dec 14 - 11:25 AM

All this hankering after noble and royal ancient bloodlines...

One of my ancestors ran a fish and chip shop.... that's plenty good enough for me !!!

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: mg
Date: 17 Dec 14 - 11:36 AM

Most of my ancestors would have been overjoyed to have run a fish shop.

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Dec 14 - 12:24 PM

fascinating as usual, Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 18 Dec 14 - 04:27 PM

Now I think through another line, and they all seem to connect, I get back to James lst Earl of Moray Stewart, son of James IV Stwart and Janet Janet Kennedy..Father of Elizabeth Stewart who was married to a Sotherton ancestor in Virginia. They are asking for DNA tests, I suppose to determine who gets the crown. But I will give them mine and they will have to decide.

I might do another song for our ancestors..could make it a series..it would be about the royalty..think about the songs that already exist about these people....

I also want to do one called Dixie because,despite the terrible things they did, they were still human and suffered for their crimes....and not all did terrible things of course.

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 18 Dec 14 - 04:53 PM

what is the significance of Somme, Picardie, France? Several of my ancestors died there, separated by huge distances of time. And they would have lived in Scotland or England.   If they had all died at once I could see a battle or something..and later of course there was (same place??)...but did people go there to die perhaps? To get a miracle like at Lourdes? Was there a health spa? Did they get special indulgences? I think it is women as well as men so not sure it would be anything like the Hospitalatierres??

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 18 Dec 14 - 06:38 PM

well the somme thing has probably been figured out. there are whole internet discussions devoted to it.   people think it has to do with a dropdown box that people use and that pops up...and of course people less scholarly than myself would just click and copy...

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 18 Dec 14 - 07:54 PM

oh no. this might affect my royal lineage

https://news.wsu.edu/2014/12/18/kings-dna-throws-a-curve-ball-wsu-scholars-weigh-in/#.VJN1v_8Dok

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Dec 14 - 08:09 PM

One of my ancestors ran a chippie. I know this because I was brought up on the cod, chips and mushy peas from that very chippie, and that ancestor is my mum, who's still alive and kicking. As a matter of fact, when I was a well under-age lad to be legally employed, I spud-bashed for my mum three nights a week for seven and a tanner (half a crown a night innit). Bloody cold in winter, it was. But we were 'appy. Possible Scandinavian connections, eh? Jaysus, man, you may be related to one of Abba! Oh joy!

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 19 Dec 14 - 08:05 AM

The news about the dodgy royal line isn't new. There was a television programme about it some years back - I can't remember the details but there was a queen in the Middle Ages who bore a son 11 months after the king had left, I think, to fight in a war. The programme makers worked out who would have been king if that child had been declared illegitimate, and followed his line to man in Australia, who was interviewed, but showed no interest in trying to claim his throne.

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 03:13 PM

I finally tied into gedmatch which you can do through ancestry. i did not know what I did took, but i got an email from an o'connor. that is one of the three top names i suspect on my irish side..the others being shea and sullivan..just from hints..no matches. also prob fitzgerald.
so anyway, i went there, don't know what i am doing, but finding all sorts of exact matches and lots of most likely matches. i was dumfounded when it went back to 1000...then 800...some norwegian king I think..then 300..i think it was king of the vandals. or selvidge the saxon. ancestry seems to only go back to 1600...this is astounding. everyone should try it but you will only get matches where people have odne trees and there should be way more irish trees than there are...and people takin the test.

lots and lots of stewarts and it is so confusing. just give me stirling castle or whatever one i deserve and be done with it.

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 05:27 PM

this is very interesting. some chart on gedmatch that i do not understand is telling me i am danish.

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: Thompson
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 06:25 PM

Must say I find the results a little fishy; if you have a sister it might be worth getting her to send hers off, using a different surname and address, and see what the same company comes up with for her. If the results are very different there'd be cause for a little scepticism.

If the results are not hinky, the French might also be partly Irish - remember that the Bordeaux region, for example, is riddled with us, as are parts of Belgium, Spain and the Canaries. One instance alone: after the Siege of Limerick the English rolled up 70 ships and ferried 20,000 Irishmen across to Europe where they spread out, most taking service in various armies, others settling in Bordeaux, which was already a familiar place to the Irish, and becoming wine makers, and more going south and also ending up with vineyards. There are a load of wines still produced by these families, eg Chateau Lynch Bages (look up "Wine Geese" for more), not to mention Hennessy brandy and the like.

No, Irish people are not getting DNA tested. We're too suspicious; we imagine that the results will be leaked to insurance companies and we'll end up not able to get work, health insurance, etc because we're regarded as "pre-ill" from some familial condition; we're also paranoid that government and police will go looking for DNA that has been privately obtained on the basis that since we have sought the record it's now in the public domain. Call us paranoid.

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 03 Mar 15 - 08:50 PM

Well, I was thinking more people of Irish ancestry in US, Canada etc. There seems to be great interest and people are always wanting to go back to Ireland to find out where their ancestors came from. There was a wall of silence I think because of the famine...there was also active resistance to listening to anything because of how horrible it all was. It reminds me of the Chinook Indians..the Chinook trade language remains and we all still speak a few words of it, but the Chinook traditional language they say was lost when a huge epidemic wiped them out...survivors were unable to speak their own language. Of course, neither could the Irish in America. I did not realize until recently my own grandparents grew up speaking Irish in a community in Iowa that was settled by Dingle Irish. And of course they probably knew some English, some Latin, maybe some Spanish..I was told while there that they could get Spanish citizenship at some point because of all the connections there.

Anyway, one DNA interpretation says I am more Dutch than Irish..I know I have French Irish ancestry and of course the Vikings made social calls...and I do have some Dutch heritage I know of...I thought I would be way more Cornish and way more Welsh..but other than a stray person here and there it is Scots or English/Norman..most trace back to France and probably from there many at least to Norway.

I have almost no Irish information at all. None. but on my mother's side I can trace back to the king of troy and oden and king of the vandals etc.

Subject: RE: BS: my mysterous dna
From: GUEST,Mg
Date: 06 Mar 15 - 02:44 AM

i got deep into the stewarts today on gedmatch..just wrap me in a tartan..more of the danish and norwegian kings and queens.

descended from lady godiva.

i mentioned on one of the forums my many new cousins from camaroon. unfortunately it is from slavery as i thought. someone pointed me to the exact area where some of it took place in north carolina. i am sure there is more from virginia and georgia.

i strongly encourage people to do this. you might get nothing, as on my father's side, or you might get lots and lots like on my mother's. i think she would be an exception because her ancestry is so well documented from all the royals..and also nonroyals, of which there are some..included reformed dutch and quakers who kept very good records..most people would not be so lucky.