BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 09:49 AM

I'd love to have recordings of the phone calls in the polls that gave Trump those numbers. Remember, Carson & Fiorina also are high in the polls, even though none of the 3 have ANY experience in politics. These polls are expressions of frustration among right-wingers who see the flaws and deceptions in the more 'experienced' candidates.

It will be interesting to see who actually gets real votes in the primaries.


Also remember that about 70% of Republicans are NOT in favor of Trump & his behavior.
Also remember that Barry Goldwater won only 6 states in 1964. Trump could beat that record.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Stu
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 09:33 AM

Not a laughing stock, but more terrifying that he's the frontrunner at any stage. Truth is, in the so-called 'civilised' western world we're all going backwards and as the US does everything bigger it's doing it via Trump and the GOP. We're not far behind in the UK and Europe, as we treat refugees like animals and batten down the hatches for the coming storm.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 09:10 AM

To a certain extent, yes, but there are few, if any, countries without their political nutters and
it doesn't seem as though this particular one could be electable.(I hope).

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 09:02 AM

Toss 'em all out and start fresh. Trump is a distraction from the real problems facing the US. So are the others, including Clinton. Sanders isn't so bad in that regard; at least he tries to address the issues, as, to a lesser extent, does Carson.

Trump is politics as (bad) theater.

But the election here if quite distant and there's many a slip twixt cup and lip.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,#
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 08:27 AM

And watch October 19, 2015 in Canada. The neocon bastard at the helm is going to be fired by the Canadian people.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 05:57 AM

No, Trump as a person is not the problem; Europe has its own share of strangely acting populists. Rather, the image of US politics in Europe is deep down in the cellar because of news like the Snowden revelations. We get the impression that presidents have immense personal power but are not "in charge". In the end, the USA may blow up the world and nobody be responsible.

The risk is much smaller in systems where leaders are more embedded in their parties and parliamentary factions. See the recent events in Australia.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: akenaton
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 04:56 AM

Ther are those in the UK Labour Party who think having a socialist as leader will make them a laughing stock.

It seems to me that Mr Trump is a handy whipping boy for the republicans, his remarks appal most people here, but the US public appear to treat them as they are presented .....as bad taste jokes.
Something like an American Rik Mayall.

Just to drift a little is it true that the Democrat candidate Mr Sanders supported all of America's involvement in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.?
If so why is he any different from Hillary the Hawk?
As Ali G used to say..."is it 'cos I is black"?

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 04:27 AM

With Trump to the right of you and Clinton to the left, you've shown once and for all that all the people can be right all of the time.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 03:51 AM

He's a fart (see what I did there?). But a very dangerous fart.
That's this non-American's view.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 03:44 AM

Methinks Trump is the laughing matter. But time will tell.

Who can trump him? Is there an ace in the pack?

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Kampervan
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 02:25 AM

In which case might it be fair to say that having Mr Trump as a candidate doesn't make the USA a laughing stock.

However, if he was to be elected then that might be different?

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Ebbie
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 02:17 AM

There are bottom-dwellers all over the world. We in the US just happen to currently have a bottom feeder.

That's my take on it.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Kampervan
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 02:05 AM

I'm someone who doesn't live in the USA and has only a minimal understanding of the political situation over there.

However, have seen some of the broadcasts featuring Mr Trump and his fellow candidates, I was tempted to ask exactly what it was about him that some voters are, apparently, drawn to.

Because from where I'm sitting, it's not obvious. Being a successful businessman and making a lot of money do not, in themselves. make a good politician.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 01:34 AM

Trumps to the 'right of me', Clintons to the 'left'.....shit! We're doomed!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 12:52 AM

I fear that he doesn't seem ridiculous to some because at least he's white.

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Sep 15 - 12:47 AM

There are some distressing issues festering in the US, and there are some Americans who have opinions that are truly frightening to me. Donald Trump seems to appeal to these people. Even though he might not be so right-wing as they are, there's something about Trump that appeals to the far right, even to White Nationalists. Maybe it's good to get that sort of thinking out in the open, so it can be refuted.

I heard an excellent interview on the NPR Fresh Air (click) program last week. Terri Gross was off duty last week, so Dave Davies did the interview of Evan Osnos. Osnos did an article in the New Yorker (click) Magazine titled "The Fearful and the Frustrated: Donald Trump's nationalist coalition takes shape—for now." Osnos says Trump's success has given right-wing extremists permission to express thinking that would have gotten them fired from their jobs in past years.

Maybe it's good that we know what these people are thinking, scary though it may be. I'm guessing that Trump's support is no more than twenty percent of the electorate - but he does seem to have the plurality among the Republican candidates. If Trump wins the nomination, I'm sure there's no way he can win the 2016 election.

...or so I hope.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock? (via Trump)
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 17 Sep 15 - 10:19 PM

I can only speak for myself, but I suspect the rest of the world would answer yes.

Subject: BS: Are we (USA) a laughingstock?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 Sep 15 - 09:51 PM

Does the rest of the world think that Trump being taken seriously is as ridiculous as I do?