BS: Some sound engineers need a kick in the

Subject: RE: BS: Some sound engineers need a kick in the
From: MikeL2
Date: 03 Dec 15 - 11:05 AM

Hi Richard

<" Maybe, as well as firearms, association football should be banned.">

Rather a drastic suggestion. Why not maybe try to get them to lower the sound levels??.

Strangely enough for me I don't have any problems with the sound at football nor rugby.

For me the worst examples of excess sounds are many of the soundtracks on TV films and dramas. I know that sound tracks can create more atmosphere but surely the music shouldn't play during the actual dialogue ?? For me many programmes are ruined by excessive use of background music.

cheers

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Some sound engineers need a kick in the
From: Rumncoke
Date: 03 Dec 15 - 04:12 PM

I always take ear defenders to any 'miked' event where I don't have control of the sound levels, with different filters for different frequencies in my pocket.

It is probably why I have the hearing I do, at my age.

Subject: RE: BS: Some sound engineers need a kick in the
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 04 Dec 15 - 11:36 AM

What people SHOULD keep in mind, is that a GOOD engineer, is an equal partner, just as the musicians are, and should be considered and paid as an equal to any of the band members. ..That being said, you can't expect an engineer to 'fix' a bad delivery of the music...though some can do wonders!
As far as, you can't understand the words', that has a LOT to do with the vocalists!!..and here is the rule, etched in stone: "The human voice is the only instrument on the planet that pronounces words, so for God's sake PRONOUNCE THE WORDS, and don't HIDE behind 'style'"...Hold only the vowels, and bite off the consonants!
I have insisted through the years, that musicians I play with should learn SOUND(engineering)...because when it's all said and done, WE ALL are working with SOUND!!...no matter how much 'pride' you take in your particular instrument, the bottom line is THE SOUND..and it is up to the individual player to deliver a CLEAN performance with expression...you can't blame a sound engineers to turn crap into a stellar performance...but as the expression goes, "A bad mechanic always blames his tools!"

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Some sound engineers need a kick in the
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 05 Dec 15 - 11:40 AM

I think that there are two elements to making lyrics clear. First, the singer has to enunciate. Second, if the sound is cranked up so loud that it hits walls and bounces back into the incoming sound, the effect will be muddy.

Wait - there's a third element. People with one dialect have to make an effort to ensure that people speaking another dialect understand them. I'm not going to say how to do this because it's complicated. I remember getting a postcard from two Midwestern friends abroad, and it said, "Can't understand the Scots at all." There is no reason for that.

Subject: RE: BS: Some sound engineers need a kick in the
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 05 Dec 15 - 10:27 PM

Leeneia, Good point... However a GOOD sound man , should be more interested in clarity, NOT overloading the room with unnecessary volume.
If you're a player, who performs, I'd be REALLY picky of your sound engineers!
I am.

GfS