BS: michael noonan and jargon

Subject: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 07:32 AM

This irish politician seems intent on repeating this phrase like a mantra, it appears he made up the phrase himself, nobody appears to know what it means.
This fat cat seems intent on trying to impress the
electorate with spouting nonsense like this. CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN THIS PHRASE.

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 07:38 AM

Hi Dick, could you elaborate a bit. I don't think many people in either the UK or the USA will have heard of Michael Noonan as a politician or as a Finance Minister.

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 07:47 AM

As I understand it, he enjoys saying 'fiscal space' rather a lot. This term is used in economics circles and refers to a government's freedom to decide its own spending within the boundaries of its financial set-up. I take it to mean 'spending flexibility'.

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 08:09 AM

a recent column by a cross-word compiler & word lover in my local paper took on the jargonauts. The column was illustrated by a cartoon, unfortunately cropped at the waterline in the on-line edition. The original caption was Brian & the Jargonauts.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 12:25 PM

Michael Noonan is a Fine Gael minister who hopefully will be out in the next irish election., who is a poodle to his capitalist masters in Brussels.
this pillock has imposed all kind of hardships on the majority of the irish people.

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: GUEST,CupOfTea with no cookies
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 12:38 PM

That article was brilliant, Sandra!

I don't live a life where powerpoint presentations prevail, but I do love words, and neologisms are of particular interest, so acquaintance with um.. Neo-jargonisms? is amusing. There are some pop-culture bits of jargon that I never quite got the sense of, like "jumping the shark." (if yer not Jesus, walking on water, where do you get the traction to jump?)

I grew up with using a previous generation's jargon - the ones I think of as mine like "circular file" likely are inherited. I wonder if anyone studies the lifespan/usage of jargon the way the OED tracks words. Not a clue about Mr. Noonan's or his pet jargon.

Joanne in Cleveland

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 03:33 PM

I'm like you Joanne, I'm very interested in new words and the evolution of language. I try to keep abreast of the latest vocabulary of 'youff' culture, which seems to evolve very quickly. There are so many words for 'excellent' or 'pleasing' among teenagers. I'm old enough to remember 'fab' during the Beatles era. I now see online that 'sickening' is fairly current! I did enjoy Lee Nelson's 'Well-Good Show'. He manages to communicate in what I call London Black Speak, a mixture of Estuary English and Jamaican/African slang. I adore 'innit?'
and 'qualitee'.
I studied linguistics and phonetics at University, and can't get enough of these things. It has never irritated me, because since the beginning of time, language, accent, dialect and vocabulary have changed and evolved. Bizspeak is a field I find hilarious. Sandra-in-Sydney's article was indeed brilliant.

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 07:24 PM

David Astle's Puzzles, posts, news and general word-chat for his new fans.

He is a wordsmith, writer & a famous cryptic crossword compiler.
David Astle on Wikipedia

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 09:02 PM

What phrase?

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 01:07 AM

returning to the theme of this thread after an excursion around other bits of jargon ...

Subject: RE: BS: michael noonan and jargon
From: GUEST,Eliza - PM
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 07:47 AM

As I understand it, he enjoys saying 'fiscal space' rather a lot. This term is used in economics circles and refers to a government's freedom to decide its own spending within the boundaries of its financial set-up. I take it to mean 'spending flexibility'.