BS: Emails from me to groups

Subject: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: gnu
Date: 24 Sep 16 - 07:07 PM

Rogers Yahoo email decided they will no longer support my IE browser and I must use a browser of their choosing (not even M$ e or whatever it's called today) or use their "basic" email. This means I cannot forward emails to any group email lists unless I change my browser. I refuse to accept this. What this means is that I have not forwarded emails as usual. I am saddened by the obvious corporate money deal but there it is. If you haven't been getting group forwards from me, this is the reason. And you won't get any in the near future.

Not that any of you care, of course. >;-)

BTW... M$ decided to do updates on my PC last week (WIN10). Took almost an hour when I booted up the next morning. Since then, my PC locks up for about a minute every ten minutes. Anybody else?

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Jack Campin
Date: 24 Sep 16 - 07:21 PM

Why don't you use a real email client instead of a browser?

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: gnu
Date: 24 Sep 16 - 08:39 PM

"email client"? What is that?

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Jack Campin
Date: 24 Sep 16 - 08:55 PM

http://bestwindows10apps.com/best-email-clients-windows-10/

I am using a very old client on a very old operating system that isn't Windows, but the issues are much the same.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Rapparee
Date: 24 Sep 16 - 10:37 PM

Firefox as a browser, Thunderbird as an email client. Both free, both by Mozilla. Lots of add-ons, like Ad Blocker Pro, which are also free.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 24 Sep 16 - 10:43 PM

I use them & Ad Block is fantastic!

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: DaveRo
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 03:04 AM

My wife uses Mozilla Thunderbird on Win 10. She runs several email accounts with it.

Only download it from Mozilla - there are fake download sites with built-in malware:
http://mozilla.org/thunderbird

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 11:49 AM

Seriously, gnu, switch over the Thunderbird. It's like a nicer form of Outlook. It is an email client, that is all it does. I keep an address book there, lots of other information, and it filters easily if you're looking for something in the mail subject or the body of a message.

You give it the information for downloading, for sending (the POP info) and you're set. I have about six different email accounts, for different user groups and for general use, set up through my Thunderbird client.

Another one, but I haven't looked at it for years (and it was more fussy to use) is Pegasus Mail.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: leeneia
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 02:51 PM

That looks like nice info about Thunderbird, but still, what do ya'll mean by "client"?

To me, a client is a person, a kind of customer, such as the client of a law firm. When you speak of a client on a computer, you make no sense.

It's not good when a person (such as gnu or me) asks a question, and the the answer is as confusing as the problem.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: DaveRo
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 04:24 PM

'Client' is computer jargon: Client_(Computing)

An email client stores and processes email on your own computer, whereas browser-based email (webmail) is all stored remotely and can only be accessed when online.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 05:26 PM

I make sense to anyone who uses computers much.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: gnu
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 08:03 PM

Well, fact is, Rogers Yahoo email is remote. I can access email details without any of them ever getting anywhere near my PC. At least, I could until Rogers Yahoo said they don't support IE any more. I figure that is because M$ want me to use their new browser and Rogers Yahoo made a deal with Firefox. So be it. I still don't see why I should have to "upgrade". But, I am a simple peon and technologically declined.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Jack Campin
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 08:26 PM

It's very unlikely that your email HAS to be remote. There are only a few email protocols and client programs can usually cope with all of them. Gmail was designed to work in a browser but I almost always use it with a client program that gets the mail onto my home computer.

Why would anybody in their right mind want to use Yahoo anyway?

eat shit, 500 milion flies can't be wrong

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 09:04 PM

my folk club list is on yahoo & I've had so much trouble logging in a few years back that I no longer try.

I have a Thunderbird Template with 60+ new members as bcc addresses & send it out each month To the yahoo group. It will only take seconds to add the 4 addresses from our recent concert.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Sep 16 - 09:07 PM

One problem with Yahoo if you use it as an individual, they won't let you download into the computer unless you pay an annual fee. At least that was the case years ago when I had to decide whether to stick with Yahoo or switch to Google. Yahoo lost a lot of eyeballs on their ads (and a lot of value through lost revenue) by not opening up access more. When a company uses the Yahoo format to manage their email, then I think you can download it. But last time I checked, if you stop getting service from that company, all of your Yahoo email through the IP vanishes. And that sucks, big time.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Sep 16 - 02:53 AM

I also have a yahoo address for another yahoo group (couldn't use the club address for that!) but visit it irregularly & always find more spam than group emails as it is not a heavily used group.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: DaveRo
Date: 26 Sep 16 - 03:29 AM

There is a risk of confusion here in that there is a thing called 'Yahoo Groups' which has been around for ages and provides for sharing photos, a calendar, a forum etc. for a subscribed group of users. Then there is sending an email to a list of adresses which any email client or webmail should be able to do.

Yahoo has an agreement with Mozilla in the US whereby it is the default search engine - this helps fund Mozilla which is non-profit. (You can still set another search engine as default.)

I'm pretty sure that Yahoo no longer supporting a version of IE for webmail is nothing to do with that agreement - though they may promote Firefox - but because IE does not support whatever newer HTML or script features it needs. Basically, MS only support IE11 and Edge.

Subject: RE: BS: Emails from me to groups
From: DaveRo
Date: 26 Sep 16 - 03:57 AM

and Mr Google tells me that Yahoo mail works with IE11 in Win 10 if you disable 'compatibility mode'.