BS: A Trump Discovery

Subject: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 12:21 AM

Jake Tapper, the newsman, the other day stumbled over the Donald's name, pronouncing it 'Dronald Tump'.

That made me go look it up and now I know what that stuff on top of his head is: A 'tump' is a Clump of Vegetation.

You heard it here first.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 03:40 AM

it could have been Tronald Dump !

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 05:35 AM

Doonesbury on Trump

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Mr Red
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 06:02 AM

A tump is a small mount in the UK! A slag heap in the Midlands. - Appropriate?

As in the Welsh for ceilidh - Twmpath. In that case more like a burial mound with a footpath below. The musos on the elevated bit and the dancers on the flat.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Stu
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 06:59 AM

We have a burial mound near us called Sodger's Tump. They built a machine gun nest on the top in case the Germans invaded.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 12:56 PM

Here's another trump discovery - he's discovered Reaganomics, which were an absolute failure.

But that's no reason not to try again, apparently.

"■ Mr. Trump's tax cuts will be huge, with the corporate tax rate dropping to 15 percent from 35 percent. Mr. Mnuchin said:

    "This will be the largest tax change since Reagan. ... We're going to cut corporate taxes, which will bring huge amounts of jobs back to the United States. We're going to get to 15 percent, and we're going to bring a lot of cash back to the U.S."

Heil Trump!

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 01:39 PM

It took 8 to 12 years for the John Does of this country to discover that the Bush buffoon was a puppet for the neo con war machines and Wall Street corruption.

Trump can build a fervor with Loyalty to him, Patriotism to him and a cry for revenge that makes 9-11 puny. A call for expulsion will include citizens.

But will he?

Bannon would. The 3 billionaires in his cabinet would.

But kind sensible people like the Joes of America say nothing and honestly don't know. They need to see Trump Troopers knock down neighbor doors first.

People often disregard intuitives like myself. Instead they wait until the they are choked by the smoke of the wildfire before they run hide or fight.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 02:40 PM

One day Donald will deny his tweet that expulsion from the US will be a civil punishment. But he did tweet that banishment from the US for flag burning is a priority of his.

The 1001 lies and techniques of propaganda, uniting mutual hatreds and his overarching need for loyalty can and has been analyzed one by one.
This process passes for journalism. But instead of being reactive to all these fascist techniques I propose we weaken all of these propaganda techniques and lies by putting them under one heading we can refer to as trumpnosis. Say no to Trumpnosis.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 02:42 PM

E, stay gutsy

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Nov 16 - 08:01 PM

"This will be the largest tax change since Reagan. .."

Does he know that Reagan later had to *raise* taxes *twice* to fix it?

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Dec 16 - 09:40 AM

Reagan raised taxes 11 times, actually.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Dec 16 - 10:46 AM

Does he know that Reagan later had to *raise* taxes

He don't know shit. Period.

Heil Trump!

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Dec 16 - 01:58 PM

I'm a bit confused about this revocation of citizenship thing. I was born in the US. My parents and grandparents were born in the US. Further back than that, I have no idea where any of my ancestors came from. If I burn a flag and Trump revokes my citizenship, where's he going to send me back to? There's no other country that would be obligated to take me, and probably none that would even want me. Would I be doomed to spend the rest of my life stuck in an airport like Mehran Karimi Nasseri?

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 01 Dec 16 - 05:11 PM

Or possibly Charlie on the MTA.

Don't try to make sense out of any of the bullshit the Trumpists come up with. You'll just hurt your head.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Dec 16 - 09:06 PM

As evidenced by the Trump thank you tour rallies, facts do not matter, it is the All drama Trumpnosis that is in play.
In contrast with no drama Obama, Barak relied upon truth to carry the day. Trumpnotic performances have no connection with the idea of truth or even common sense.

The Trump thank you tour is not policy or issue driven except to say "I won! I am wonderfully right and the media is terribly wrong." The one thing Donald has never achieved is acceptance by the New York elite. His skin is thinnest regarding being snubbed by the elite. Remember this Achilles heel.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Dec 16 - 09:27 PM

I made a poster for the John Stewart Steven Colbert rally that said:

CUT OUT THE MIDDLEMAN
ELECT CORPORATIONS DIRECTLY
goldman sachs, Exxon...

Today Trump has announced that the CEO of Exxon is being considered for Secretary of State.
Along with the 3 former Goldman Sachs people Trump has already chosen, the nightmare has come true.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 02:11 AM

I am just about convinced that Trump is not really concerned that he knows so little, because he fully intends that Pence shall fill the role of the president. He has said as much, that his role will be to "make America great again', which I assume will be a full time job. As they say, '=watch this space.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 04:55 AM

Well you people had the chance to elect a real reformer, but allowed your corrupt Party to sabotage his campaign......and still you stick to your partisan side and whinge about the result.

It is really all your fault, you took your eyes off the ball you did not see that Mrs Clinton was unelectable...even against Mr Trump who campaigned without Party support.

You were taken in by "liberal" talking points like "the glass ceiling", when most folks are interested in providing for their families.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 05:48 AM

Trumpnosis
Trumpnotic

He is even changing the language!
So much more sinister than Bushisms.
They are so much more revealing the Reaganomics.

USA has long been accused of being long on bluster, short on substance. Something we mildly believed but but to have it thrust in our faces is .................

sorry words fail me.

(pulls pin and lobs grenade, ducks behind parapet)
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzumph........
Akhenaten tried to bring about a departure from traditional religion, yet in the end it would not be accepted.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 05:49 AM

Hillary Clinton got two million votes more than Trump. I hate to keep reminding you of that. After the brexiteers got two million votes more than the remainers, I didn't hear you howling that the Remain side had won.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 06:13 AM

FYI In America the phrase "YOU PEOPLE" is used as a substitute for nigger, kike, or worse. I thought Brits thought they were central to decorum and civilization.

Mr Red those are my new words. They stand for all the lies all the nonsense and all the propaganda that Trumpism engages.


Steve , didn't the stay Brexit vote outnumber leave by 2.5 million votes? Here the loser often wins. Its money that talks.

Th clarion call to war was made by Donald claiming his defense secretary pick mad dog Mattis is bolder than Patton.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 06:33 AM

More of my new words;

White Subpremicyst

Lockerupt

Muslim Bannonfan

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 06:36 AM

The other way round, Donuel. I was pointing to akenaton's illogical remark that Clinton was inelectable. She lost because of a ridiculous electoral college system, not because she was unelectable, as her popular vote superiority revealed. By his logic he should be hailing the victory of Remain.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 06:37 AM

Un, not in.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 07:10 AM

fatuouscism

fastcism

factcision

fascism lite

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 09:22 AM

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/12/01/the-hypocrisy-of-the-liberal-elite/#74f673ba33d4

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 09:33 AM

How about the lies and hypocrisy of the Trumpists, CowFart?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/opinion/seduced-and-betrayed-by-donald-trump.html

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 09:55 AM

How about the lies and hypocrisy of the DNC, or Hillary, Ratfucker?


Ask Bernie about that.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 10:03 AM

There there, CowFart, calm down. No need for you to call Hillary a ratfucker - that's something your boy Trump would say.

Ask Bernie about that.

Many have - he supported Hillary, which you seem to have forgotten/ignored/never knew.....

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 10:11 AM

Gregtrf,

YOU are the ratfucker around here.

I hope the Liberals who silently accept your racism and bigotry are ok with being tarred by the same brush.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 12:29 PM

Come on chaps I didn't want to promote aggression...... only debate.

To Steve, If Mrs Clinton had been a viable candidate with an inch of vision she would have won by a landslide.....I told you before the Election that Mr Sanders had the best chance of winning he had the vision that the young people were thirsting for.....but he sold out in the end and set back the cause another twenty years.....or forever! :0(

The answer is in our own hands, realise that we are involved in a class war Left and Right mean nothing, only unity can win the day...for everyone.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 12:32 PM

If Mr Sanders had won the election the elite would have turned on him even more viciously than the republicans did to Mr Trump.
KNOW YOUR ENEMIES!!

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 12:47 PM

In my world "you people".....means   "you" people.

You know who you are, human beings who walk around with a huge balloon marked "ideology" tied to their shoulders with thin wire cord...occasionally the balloon lifts the people a few inches off the ground then dumps them down again, giving them a slightly comical appearance.......sad.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 06:08 PM

Come on chaps I didn't want to promote aggression......

Unlike your boy Trump, Ache?

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Anniecat
Date: 02 Dec 16 - 11:28 PM

The voting system in America is so weird that there are many ways to fix the votes (one of which is not counting them for instance). Bernie had far more votes than Clinton but not the money to match. He stood down as the democrat vote was so split and fiddled that they were sure to lose if they didn't show a united front. Sadly they lost anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Dec 16 - 06:55 AM

I've said it before and I'll say it again (it's what we do on Mudcat political threads😉): Bernie Sanders wouldn't have stood a cat in hell's chance against Trump's populism. Never in a million years in a country in which "commie," "left-wing" and "socialist" are dirty words. In hindsight, as Clinton lost, his campaign would have been far more civilised and might just have changed a few things in the long run. But there was no way he could have beaten Trump. Dream on.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 03 Dec 16 - 07:09 AM

""ideology" tied to their shoulders with thin wire cord"
Somewhat preferable to being devoid of humanity and compassion and an ideology" that divides the world by its race, gender and sexual orientation, persecuting thse who don't fit into yours.
You seem to sped a greater time running away from argument rather than responding to it wnd whingeing about being insulted while feeling free to insult who you please.
Consistency and honest exchange of ideas and opinions seem not to register too prominently on your Richter Scale.
If you dont' like being insulted - stop doing it to others
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Dec 16 - 09:09 AM

Getting back to Mr Trump, he's a highlander alright, he's got the eyes and the voice....there is also a big slice of the Viking in him, he would suit the horned helmet and the battleaxe......maybe you've got a chance there Ebbie!...:0)

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Dec 16 - 03:45 PM

Ake, You should not be surprised to discover yourself to be an irredeemable person. Folk music has been rejected by your soul along with all its lessons unlearned.

Insignificantly you will soon find out what you are worth in the days to come soldier. Your ideas originate and end with death.
You can't kill or cull your way out of our problems and annoyances.
You only think you can. When will you ever learn?

Nazis thought they could, American killers of the Indians thought they could and so do the me/them people like yourself. Believe me you are not alone. Here you are a symptom, a symbol.

In the meantime think about who taught you well about the surfaces of things but none of the depth.

Study the nature and origins of ideas.
Own or reject your ideas.
Only then can a man speak of ideology.

What you called debate is really hate.
What you called argument is a cross eyed snipers game.
The final battle is death all the same by accident or intent.
But a coward like you just complains others live.

Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year !
-- discover the spirit of ideas --


.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Dec 16 - 06:33 PM

Well Don, that little rant should have deflated the balloon somewhat, you should be back on solid ground shortly.

Nazi, irredeemable, coward, hate , death, a symptom, snipers.....you are so negative, have you given any thought to why this is so?
There is help available.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 Dec 16 - 07:52 PM

Reality is often negative, Ache. So it goes.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 09:59 AM

As a student of the Holocaust, my advice to you was in comparison polite, demure and finessed the finer points of cultural racism.

Perhaps you missed the cultural revolution, Bosnia, Rwanda and coming soon, South Sudan.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 04 Dec 16 - 06:09 PM

Well, looks like the Austrians are considerably smarter than the USAsians.

VIENNA — Austria's voters rejected a far-right candidate for president on Sunday, the climax of a bitter yearlong campaign that was widely watched across Europe as a measure of how high fringe parties could climb in mainstream politics.

The election, normally a sleepy, provincial contest for a largely ceremonial post, had Europeans on edge for its potential to send yet another jolt to political establishments in a year when far-right populist forces have advanced on both sides of the Atlantic.

It was widely viewed as a test of the anti-migrant and anti-Muslim forces that have ridden a populist path to power in Hungary, Poland and the UK and have gained strength in France and even in Germany and the United States since the election of Donald J. Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 03:24 AM

YouAchyBreakymyheart: ..there is also a big slice of the Viking in him, he would suit the horned helmet and the battleaxe......maybe you've got a chance there Ebbie!...:0)"

Not a chance- he is more your type: Gollum. :)

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 10:26 AM

You just couldn't make this stuff up. Of course, both Trump and his father employed segregation in their housing projects.

President Obama's civil-rights legacy looked on track, not long ago, to include a major push against America's deeply entrenched housing segregation. In 2015, his administration rolled out a rule requiring local communities to assess their own patterns of racial and income segregation and make genuine plans to address them.

The move followed years of debate and came as segregated cities like Baltimore and Chicago faced renewed bouts of racial unrest. The federal government, advocates hoped, was finally trying to repair a long-unkept promise of the 1968 Fair Housing Act.

Now that rule is likely to be undermined — and possibly erased — by a Department of Housing and Urban Development headed by Ben Carson.

Diane Yentel, the president of the National Low Income Housing Coalition, said Mr. Carson's interpretation of the rule as a social experiment "reveals a fundamental misunderstanding of obligations that have been around since 1968." The Fair Housing Act passed that year included two mandates: one banning discrimination in the housing market, and the other requiring local communities to "affirmatively further" the fair-housing goal of integration.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/23/upshot/how-ben-carson-at-housing-could-undo-a-desegregation-effort.html


And the there's this on the sort of folks who will be running the country:


Fake news, but real bullets.

A gunman entered a popular Washington pizza restaurant that had been the target of harassment after a fake news article said it was the base of a child abuse ring, firing his weapon before being arrested on Sunday and escalating fear in what is normally a quiet neighborhood.

The episode at Comet Ping Pong in northwest Washington severely escalated what had already been a tense period after false rumors began to spread that the restaurant was somehow tied to a child abuse ring run by Mrs. Clinton and her campaign chairman, John D. Podesta.

That might sound far-fetched, but it led to dozens of threats against its employees by email and on social media.

Even the son of retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, picked to be Mr. Trump's national security adviser, was still trafficking in the so-called Pizzagate conspiracy theory Sunday night.

Michael G Flynn🇺🇸 @mflynnJR
Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it'll remain a story. The left seems to forget #PodestaEmails and the many "coincidences" tied to it. 10:13 PM - 4 Dec 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/us/politics/donald-trump-transition.html

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: akenaton
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 10:35 AM

Well said Ebbs!! :0)

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: gillymor
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 02:12 PM

It just warms the cockles to see these creeps crawling out from under the woodwork. I thought maybe we were past this. All you Trump supporters need to take note of who you've crawled into bed with.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 02:21 PM

And then, there is the intellectual[sic] quality of Trump and The Trumpists:

There are disturbing signs about how a Trump administration will conduct itself, from the early diplomatic blunders that signal a worrisome break in the continuity of protocol, to his team nursing vendettas and continuing to dangle the threat of jail in front of his opponents.

To add insult to injury, Trump surrogate Scottie Nell Hughes uttered this jaw-dropping line last week on The Diane Rehm Show:

"One thing that has been interesting this entire campaign season to watch is that people that say facts are facts; they're not really facts. Everybody has a way, it's kind of like looking at ratings or looking at a glass of half-full water. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth or not true." She continued: "There's no such thing, unfortunately, anymore of facts."

Folks, Dimwit-ism is a disease easily spread and denigrators of the absolutism of truth are its vectors. This is why resistance isn't only principled, but essential and even existential.

God Damn AmeriKKKa

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: robomatic
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 08:14 PM

Way to add more heat than light, GREKKK.

Subject: RE: BS: A Trump Discovery
From: beardedbruce
Date: 05 Dec 16 - 09:56 PM

Decomposing shit ALWAYS adds heat.