BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 06:10 PM

"Homosexuals have had something pertaining to their rights removed from White House website"??? I have heard nothing about that.

But where were the hordes of protesters when the Democrat government was removing Jobs and the means of survival from the industrial belt of the US......patting themselves on the back because John could "marry" Bob?

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 06:04 PM

Too many "ifs" and "maybe's" to start a revolution over.
The election was legitimate...sure they can protest, but not burn cars, wreck houses and stone the police......and they should be sure what they are protesting about.
President Trump has only had a day in office, democracy says that he must be given a chance to put forward his policies.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 05:55 PM

people don't always express themselves well - I am guilty enough of that myself. What I think they mean is that all the information they have leads them to believe that to be the case. Or, if you like, they are thinking with the rules you might apply in a jury, rather than a scientific experiment. A lot of this information comes via the media, naturally, but not all of it. For example the decision to remove sections on civil rights and LGBT from the White House website were not taken by the media. People may differ on what the removal means, but if someone who is LGBT feels they will be treated less well under the new presidency you can see why they would think that. And the same applies to other sections of the community.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 05:26 PM

I take your point D, but these protester are not saying President Trump COULD be a racist, or homophobe ,or sexual molester, they are saying that he definitely IS these things and is not therefore a legitimate president of the USA.

They are not thinking clearly, or looking at the historical aspect.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 05:19 PM

Stu...I know this may come as a shock to you, but lots of men and ex presidents are fascinated by small cats. They do all sorts of things to them. Its just human nature at work, especially if the women are willing participants, in search of money or celebrity, which was the scenario president Trump was alluding to.

In any case is talking about it ten years ago in what was supposed to be a private conversation an impeachable offence?   Is it really so important?.......Or is it simply an excuse to salve a stinging rejection?

My first introduction was at age 16, by a nice young lady who insisted on showing me where the little furry creature lived. :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:56 PM

Good catch bobad
Pence will be Caesar's Brutus, but even Christy would take a stab if he had been appointed VP.


The Park Service and Park police had their twitter accounts suspended then late restored by order of ........? as revenge and security for 2 re tweets regarding the typical counting of attendees at an inauguration.

It was said the attendance results and the retweets were not sympathetic to Trump.

Some believe a safety issue emerged on Mt Rainer due to the twitter shut off but now transmits its info on Facebook.

What this is all about may be trolling or it may be punishment for telling the truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Stu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:07 PM

Er, Ake. He likes to grab pussy.

Many of us don't like the direction towa fs dictatorship and nazism Brexit and Trump are taking our societies. We're making our point after you've dismissed and belittled us. You cannot exclude us. Get over it.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 04:06 PM

Following on from Jim, there are really only two common ways dictators get into power. There is either a military coup, or they get elected. Either way they then start consolidating power. That is why the election is only the start of the democratic system: constant and ongoing criticism and examination is probably more important, if anything. So, no, "get over it" misses the point. We can see and accept the election and result of the vote. For all the caveats and doubts, we know the outcome. But that is not the end of of our role. Now, I am not claiming Trump is a dictator, but I am claiming election in itself does not stop people being dictators.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:57 PM

...o'er the Land of the Fleeeeeeeeeeea
and the Home of the Plaaaaaaaaaaaague

that's what I have to show for living in New Mexico for a while

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:53 PM

oh, say, does that Star Spangled Dinner yet wave....

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: DMcG
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:52 PM

Just because "he employs women and promotes them" it does not follow he does not discriminate. There are lots of other aspects you would need to look at. Do they feel less respected than their male colleagues? What are the age demographics? Are they in equivalent roles? Are they promoted to an equivalent extent to men, or is the promotion distribution distinctive in some way?   I am not saying I know the answers to these questions, but I raise them to explain why discrimination could still be present.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:32 PM

I listened to some of the marching women being interviewed, they were protesting a myth.
Not one had a coherent argument as to why the President was illegitimate......It was ideological nonsense, "he Discriminates against women"....apparently this is untrue, he employs thousands of women and promotes them in his organisations. "He discriminates against homosexuals", but not one interviewee could give one example.
"he is a racist who discriminates against Black people" again no proof of the allegations

It is all media fuelled hogswash.....the protests are about the rejection of an ideology, an ideology which is based on myth.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:01 PM

"President Trump has been democratically elected ......get over it."
I'll repeat this as often as it takes - so was Hitler
The fact that you refuse to respond to what he has said and what he stands for means you support him, leaning on a "democratic vote" nudged along with Russia's assistance mkes not one iota of difference to that fact
Trump is a phyco thug whose policies have already begun to divided America and threaten the rest of the world - that is what you are supporting - your refusal to respond makes that clear.
Trump has the makings of a fascist; you complained of my describing you thus, but that is what you appear to be supporting.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: bobad
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:10 PM

From Facebook:

Robert Reich
3 hrs ·

I had breakfast recently with a friend who's a former Republican member of Congress. Here's what he said:

Him: Trump is no Republican. He's just a big fat ego.

Me: Then why didn't you speak out against him during the campaign?

Him: You kidding? I was surrounded by Trump voters. I'd have been shot.

Me: So what now? What are your former Republican colleagues going to do?

Him (smirking): They'll play along for a while.

Me: A while?

Him: They'll get as much as they want – tax cuts galore, deregulation, military buildup, slash all those poverty programs, and then get to work on Social Security and Medicare – and blame him. And he's such a fool he'll want to take credit for everything.

Me: And then what?

Him (laughing): They like Pence.

Me: What do you mean?

Him: Pence is their guy. They all think Trump is out of his mind.

Me: So what?

Him: So the moment Trump does something really dumb – steps over the line – violates the law in a big stupid clumsy way … and you know he will ...

Me: They impeach him?

Him: You bet. They pull the trigger.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:05 PM

"America First'" translates as "Little America". So much for "Make America Great".

The girl singing "Star Spangled Banner" (which for some reason my keyboard came up with calling "The Star Spangled Dinner" till I corrected it) struggled hard, and didn't go for the terrible distortions they always seem to do at American sporting occasions but struggled hard with having to sing it in the badly selected key which is evidently officially required. But having the anthem rather strangled and somehow heartbroken was perhaps the right way to sing it for this tragic occasion,

God Help America.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 02:00 PM

THE WOMEN HAVE IT RIGHT

DEMOCRATICLY DECIDED, OVER A MILLION WOMEN
are demonstrating in Denver, D.C., Boston, NYC, Seattle, Sydney,Chicago, LA ...

UK?

I have said when women rise up great evil falls down.

Here in DC metro is full of buses and Shopping Malls 24 miles away are being used for shuttling women downtown.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 01:44 PM

Herr Trump wasn't democratically elected. His opponent got more of the popular vote. In fact, he was elevated by a process that was designed to stifle democratic elections, the same process that gave us one of our worst presidents 16 years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 12:08 PM

President Trump has been democratically elected ......get over it.

It is the only way the establishment could be broken. "The Establishment" consists of two corrupt Political Parties, a fawning lying media, Global corporations who leave redundant workers to rot...and worst of all a spoiled hate filled "liberal" elite who cannot stand the thought of their ideology being rejected all over the Western world.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 08:24 AM

Seven hundred anti-Trump demonstrations to take place across the world today, mainly organised by women.
The one in London, is already beginning to assemble in Grosvenor Square -
A reminder of what America now stands for in the eyes of its leader.
Jim Carroll

"I did try and fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look. I've gotta use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything... Grab them by the pussy.
You can do anything."
- The President of The United States of America

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Mr Red
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:28 AM

Gaaaaaaawd.
Couldn't switch over fast enough. Every channel (TV & Radio) that I normally go to there was a special. My choice was bumped or on another channel!
One thang's fer sure, Twitler refused to pay the bill.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:06 AM

Where are the Stauffenbergs of this world when you neeed them
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 07:01 AM

The Nightmare begins. We need to keep a close watch on this bastard and his flying monkeys.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:52 AM

""America First" over and over again, scared me"
Didn't watch it but is scared me too - "America uber alles" to a T.
Not proud to say that you were pipped at the post by half a year - the U.K. is well into "put Britain first" for that length of time and I suspect we'll hear th same thing from France shortly - echoes of the same marching song
"AMAZING PIECE of THEATRE"
Been done before Ake - nothing new under the sun.
It was aimed to inspire hate and fear and it obviously worked for one of our number
"Star Spangled Banner"
I'm sure "Deutschland über alles" and 'Horst-Wessel-Lied' had the seme effect back then.
What's happening to this planet scares the shit out of me
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:12 AM

Joe O, Trump didn't do the histrionics today but his words, and their message, were right up A.H.'s alley. Scary stuff.

Jackie Evancho was the 16 year old girl who sang the Star Spangled Banner. She didn't sing as well- especially in the first half of the song - as I've heard her sing before; I suspect she had a case of nerves.

I've heard her sing since she was 11 years old (on video) and she has always had a clear, pure voice.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: meself
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:06 AM

"I did it Vlad's way!"

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: meself
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 03:05 AM

Wasn't it fitting that Chump chose 'My Way' as the song for his and the wife's first dance - the most smarmy, smug, self-satisfied, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic set of lyrics ever set to schmaltz ... ?

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Joe Offer
Date: 21 Jan 17 - 01:14 AM

Well, I watched the swearing in and the inaugural speech. Hearing "America First" over and over again, scared me. With a slogan like that, you know that a lot of people age going to be excluded.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 07:07 PM

My best treasure of the coverage were the still photographs I took of all the dignitaries prior to coming down steps inside the Capitol.
They were all unaware of a hidden HD camera, so they all had honest and telling expressions before they came down the 40 steps to the outdoor balcony and put on their public phony faces. Priceless.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 06:30 PM

A SCOTT ? I bet your brogue is as brilliant as your assumptions are not. I love the sound second only to Jamaican.

We make and sell Scott tissue right here in America. Very Patriotic.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 05:30 PM

Amazing piece of theatre.
As you know I'm a Scot, but the singing of the "Star spangled banner" almost brought a tear to my eyes....how could anyone fail to be moved?
The female singer was magnificent.....no jazzin' up just pure sweet emotion.....who she?

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 05:09 PM

Fed friends went to the movies. We went to the botanical gardens but it was closed.

PS free marijuana at DuPont circle today.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 02:01 PM

This morning, I drove past a Trump inauguration party being held in the parking lot of a gun shop. I was wondering why the owner would sponsor such a party. Without the "Obama's gonna take away our guns!" nonsense driving idiots to his door, his business is probably going to drop through the floor.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 12:23 PM

"John Voight"
Of 'Mission Impossible' (1) fame!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 09:40 AM

Barak has actually said he would be happy to call an improved ACA Trump care.

No smiles on the Mall so far. Just wary grins at the most.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 09:17 AM

The ACA was a bad deal at the outset but President O' had the wisdom and foresight to know that in this case it was better than no deal. He got the ball rolling on something that may evolve into Universal Health Care which is something every civilized nation should have. He invited and has continued to invite it's opponents to join in in crafting it, as it is a massive work in progress, but the GOP had no interest in being involved in something that could be perceived as a political victory for Democrats and fought it all the way.

In spite of all the opposition from the right the ACA is at an all time high in popularity, has lowered healthcare costs and has provided more people with healthcare than ever before. Thanks to this wider ranging coverage and the ACA's emphasis on prevention (rather than those expensive, middle of the night visits to the emergency room that Republicans favor) far fewer people are losing their homes, life savings, and even their lives due to catastrophic illnesses.

A lot of GOP legislators are calling on Trump to sign off on the ACA's immediate repeal and claiming that they'll come up with their own plan eventually. Yeah, right. If Trump stays true to his word (not holding my breath on that) and replaces it with "something better" what we'll have is Obamacare under a different name that the GOP will crow about after the fact.

President Obama is such a gracious and thoughtful man that I'm sure he would gladly live with a name change as long as people got their health care.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Stu
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 09:07 AM

"When we elect Michelle Obama in 2020, that will be another matter...."

THIS.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 09:00 AM

For the Obama Inauguration my experience was remarkably similar to Joe's sentiment. The warmth of that freezing day was tropical.
The truth and hope of that day was beyond words.

Barak's Inauguration concert at the Lincoln Memorial was so poignant I felt it was the embodiment of achieving the MLK speech I attended when I was only twelve.

Look at who performed for Obama/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Are_One:_The_Obama_Inaugural_Celebration_at_the_Lincoln_Memorial


At the Trump Lincoln Memorial concert serial liar Trump could not restrain himself from lying when he said "Having an Inauguration concert at the Lincoln Memorial has never happened before".

Trump concert featured a country band 3doors down, a drummer, a fife and drum group, piano guys , John Voight and the Marine corp band.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 08:26 AM

Watching the reports coming in on Irish television, everybody seems to be talking about damage limitation
Great way to greet a new dawn.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: gillymor
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 06:45 AM

The event's organizers and Trump seem to be working at cross purposes. They're hoping for clear skies today while he's hoping for golden showers.

I would happily vote for Michelle. I thought her speech at the Democratic National Convention was the best one that came out of the 2016 campaign.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 20 Jan 17 - 03:41 AM

"When we elect Michelle Obama in 2020, that will be another matter...."
As much as I shy away from dynasties, (remembering the Bush Family's attempts to establish one) what a beautiful thing to look forward to.
I doubt if Trump will ever surprises us other than to show further depths of his evil - if that were possible.
An openly dishonest businessman, a misogynist, a racist, sexual depravities which put Clinton/Lewisnski in the same class as 'Sound of Music', the Russian Government as backers, a record of involvement with the Russian Mafia and of having employed at least one killer in his businesses.....
What has happened to your country - pity Al Capone isn't still around!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 09:33 PM

One good thing about living back here is that we don't have inaugurations for the Prime Minister. They just stand in the middle of the street, and give a short, generally totally insincere, speech.

Coronations are a hoot, but they don't come along too often.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 08:42 PM

I wish to announce that this year, I am refusing to perform at the Twump Inauguration.

When we elect Michelle Obama in 2020, that will be another matter....

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 07:52 PM

Not me, I am sure I have somethingbbetterto do , like emptying the litter box

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 07:26 PM

Trump will not surprise you in that he will do things you didn't expect. It's what mavericks do.

Farcebook thinks Michael Flatley will perform at the inaugural ball

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 04:17 PM

Andrew Jackson.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 04:03 PM

Very fair summation Joe.......stand bye for the brickbats.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 03:44 PM

I did my best to watch every moment of both Obama inaugurations - often with tears in my eyes. And I watched every Obama farewell event I could find in the last few weeks, with the same emotion. He's been a good President.
I've been spending a lot of time this week in the service waiting room of my car dealer - payback for my 15,000 mile tour of America. I switched the waiting room television off FoxNews as soon as I thought I could get away with it, and I've been watching the cabinet confirmation hearings. The discussions are interesting, and the nominees and the senators on both sides are all making very reasonable points - none seem to be the mindless evildoers that they're sometimes made out to be.
The discussion on Obamacare was particularly interesting yesterday. The Republicans seem to want a healthcare system that will fulfill all the best dreams of the Democrats. Obamacare tried too hard to satisfy the insurance companies and the Republicans. Now the Republicans are under pressure to come up with something that actually works, and perhaps now they can afford to ignore the political considerations. Maybe, just maybe, they can do their job and develop something that serves the people.
So, I'll wait and see.

There has been some controversy about the Girl Scouts participating in the inaugural parade, something they've done every inauguration for a century. The Girl Scouts generally support the more progressive causes, so there was hope they might boycott the inauguration. The Boy Scouts have been annoyingly conservative, which is one of the reasons why I left them after 30 years. But both scout organizations have participated in all inaugurations since their early years, so would it be right for them to single Trump out for boycott?

So, I dunno. Can't think I'll ever be happy having Trump as President, but I'm hoping maybe he'll surprise me.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: akenaton
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 03:42 PM

"Ebbie, if you challenge Ake to a duel, I'll second ya."

You must be joking!! they don't call her "the battleaxe " for nothing AND she keeps a stiletto in the woodshed :0)

and who the **** is Andy Jackson? The irony is lost on me.

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 01:42 PM

You certainly do pick your
HEROES Ake
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: Inauguration--To Watch or Not to Watch??
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 19 Jan 17 - 01:36 PM

Ann Coulter is a right wing Conservative misogynist and a homophobe
Just what America - and the world - needs
Jim Carroll
Quote
"If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women.
It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. I mean, you do see it's the party of women and 'We'll pay for health care and tuition and day care—and here, what else can we give you, soccer moms?'"