BS: uk by-elections

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 08 Mar 17 - 06:37 AM

both statements appear to be fact

We are talking about quotes from religious texts here aren't we? The same sort of facts that declare that the world was created in 7 days, that Jesus rose from the dead and Muhammad received his instructions from the Angel Gabriel?

If anyone thinks that any of these works can be described as factual we do have somewhat of an impasse.

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Teribus
Date: 08 Mar 17 - 05:53 AM

"Paedophilia is not endorsed, but the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) took a child bride."

Now we are obviously talking about Islam here. As someone who purports to be an expert in that particular religion to a degree whereby you set yourself up as it's defender Jim can you point out anything in that quote that is factually incorrect. Two things are mentioned:

1 - Islam does endorse or condone paedophilia - which is true it doesn't.

2 - The Prophet took a child bride - The girls name was Aisha she was six years old when Muhammad asked for her hand in marriage and she was nine years old when that marriage was consummated according to Islamic text.

Care to explain Jim how, given that both statements appear to be fact, the passage quoted above can in any way at all be considered as:

".....a spiteful attack on a religion that is not your own and is using that attack to persecute the believers>" - Jim Carroll

It is of course nothing of the sort, it is merely a statement of fact. Fact that for some reason you are conditioned to ignore, fact that you are not prepared to accept irrespective of any evidence that can be brought to show the truth of the matter.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 08:08 PM

"Jim, you knowingly lie about me AGAIN!
How can I lie by quoting you?
"In that thread from 2011(!) I stated many times that religion was not an issue."
""Paedophilia is not endorsed, but the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) took a child bride.""
That was a spiteful attack on a religion that is not your own and is using that attack to persecute the believers - two birds with one petrol bomb
"You make the same old false, lying accusations and I just knock them down in the same old way."
Nope - I quote you - you call them lies
By accusing me of lying, are you actually saying you didn't write these things?
No answer is an admittance you did.
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 05:35 PM

I am clearly very bored with you, Keith. Very very very very bored indeed. I am so bored that the hole has gone right through. A two-foot length of three-by-two that has been attacked by a million-strong swarm of manic wood-boring beetles cannot be more bored than me. I am terribly, terribly bored. If it's any consolation, I'm just as bored by Teribus. I don't do favourites. I'm fair-minded like that, me. Hope this helps.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:26 PM

Just out of interest I believe a debate is a formal discussion with set rules about who says what and when. There are time limits and an independent panel or audience assess who made their points best and, therefore, won. That does not happen here.

A discussion is less formal and takes the form of people 'chatting'. Points are made, some are conceded, some compromise is arrived at and most people are happy with the outcome if not in full agreement. That does not happen here.

I am not at all sure that what goes on here can be classified as debate or discussion in any meaningful way so the best idea is for everyone to do their own thing unless the moderation team step in and take control. Which rarely happens.

Hope this helps

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 02:40 PM

I refer you to my post of 08.04am

If anyone queries anything you post you claim you are only repeating what other people have supposedly said.

That is not debate, it is not even discussion.

Not only are you pathetic but you are a decitful fraud.

And no, I won't give you examples they are too numerous to cite. I know your normal cop out it won't work with me.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 02:31 PM

Jim, you knowingly lie about me AGAIN!

In that thread from 2011(!) I stated many times that religion was not an issue.
You know that because we have been there before and you have had the quotes.

You make the same old false, lying accusations and I just knock them down in the same old way.

You go back six years and still find no lie from me.
I produced a list of yours, with quotes, from this thread!

Steve,
I try to debate with you and Jim, but you just resort to personal attack and abuse every time.

My case is that Labour is in serious trouble with its leadership, and has had serious problems with anti-Semitism and misogyny.

I have backed my views with numerous quotes from prominent, senior Labour people.
You just deny without any evidence, and resort to trying to smear me over years old posts.

You are clearly afraid or incapable of entering into serious discussion, but prove me wrong why don't you?

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 12:35 PM

That is a baseless assertion, Dave. Go and hide your head in the sand. It's what we members of the ostrichocracy must do. You lose, you spittle-flecked ranter you! And prove it. Prove what, I hear you ask. Don't ask me. Just prove something or other. Yeah.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 11:00 AM

No, Sorry, Steve. She never had her visa to visit Yorkshire renewed and with the political climate being what it is I suspect any such incursion would be dealt with using extreme prejudice. Not that there is any prejudice in Yorkshire culture of course. I was only quoting people that know better than me and you were telling lies about the weather. If it really was raining so hard how come you cannot come up with a single muddy footprint, eh? Eh? Eh? Just one. I win.

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 09:45 AM

Dangerous plants and weather, Dave? Ha! Bet you've never had to deal with an invasive stand of giant hogweed in the teeth of an approaching tornado!


No, neither have I, as it happens...


By the way, it's nearly ostrich breeding season. I don't suppose you seen Betty Swollox lately, have you, Dave...?

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 09:38 AM

Point missed again, Teribus! By abject politics I wasn't talking about the history of political parties' politics. I was talking about yours and Keef's! And Keith, you can't debate, won't debate, have never debated and will never debate. But you could apply to the Guinness Book of Records for typing the shortest possible sentence making the possible uses of "actually/actual!" I actually admired that in actual fact, no, I actually did!

Stopped peeing down again this end but all is mud. Have made a magisterial soup this morning, not for consumption until Thursday (the only thing to do with soups and casseroles). Am also set to make a curry for this evening using a Spice Tailor kit. I haven't mastered the art of curries from scratch, and the jars of Patak's, etc., are overcooked and too gloopy with a lot of sloppy onion and tommy purée, but the Spice Tailor ones are very good, if a bit pricey. A happy-ish medium.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 08:20 AM

"I did believe it. No lie."
Step two - how many times have you blamed somebody else for making it and refused to produce a quote?
"So, you have to go back SIX YEARS and even then you can't find a lie."
You have lied consistently over this for all that time - not a bad lying
I have linked and named the site consistently and will do again
Your point throughout was that Muslims were potentially dangerous in regard to sexual abuse
MUSLIM PREJUDICE thread, if anybody would like to check
A quote from your sick contribution there
"Paedophilia is not endorsed, but the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) took a child bride."
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 08:18 AM

Talking about flowers and the weather is safer.
Sad but true.

I wouldn't say safer. Plants and weather can be pretty dangerous as well. I would say it is a damned site pleasanter that engaging in so called debates on here that are nothing but trivial mental wranglings. There is nothing sad in trying to lift the tone of discussion. I have my rule now, thanks to GregF. Never enter a pissing contest with a skunk.

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 08:04 AM

If anyone on this site is afraid to enter into debate it must be you professor.

You put up "quotes" and then when queried about them you say "wasn't me Miss, some big boys said it, I never said that someone else said that Miss, wasn't me Miss"

Pathetic.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:52 AM

Jim,
"but again fail to produce a single quote of me doing it"
How many times have I put up your "Don I do believe .. Implant" quote

I did believe it. No lie.
All the deceit was with you, editing out all but a tiny bit of the short post, and ignoring the context of the posts that led to it.

So, you have to go back SIX YEARS and even then you can't find a lie.
It hardly shows me to be a prolific liar.
Not like you Jim.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:47 AM

Steve,
You and Keith with your abject politics? Who needs it

The fact remains that you can never actually argue against anything we actually say, with an actual quote.

I am sure that if you could, you would.

You are afraid to enter into debate.
Talking about flowers and the weather is safer.
Sad but true.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:45 AM

"but again fail to produce a single quote of me doing it"
How many times have I put up your "Don I do believe .. Implant" quote
How many times have you7 denied it How many times have you blamed somebody else and refused to quote them
How many times have you said you don't believe it - contradicting yourself
If yoiu didn't put it up, who did ?
You are an evil mess Keith
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:45 AM

Abject politics Shaw? What's the subject of the thread again?

Abject politics - Having to go cap in hand to the IMF was pretty abject, as was the "Winter of Discontent". Thatcher was far from being perfect but she was a damned sight better than her two predecessors. Directly due to action taken by her Government the country was in good shape when the Blair & Brown Duo took over and then we had - Afghanistan, Iraq, Pension raids and gold reserve sell offs until by 2010 they'd managed to completely screw the economy up again - that is f**kin' abject Shaw and you and your co-tossers cheered them on all the way.

By the bye, had Thatcher been around?

Thatcher EU in her own words

During Brexit she would have led the Leave campaign.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:36 AM

Jim, again you claim lying by me, but again fail to produce a single quote of me doing it, as I do with all your lies.

Why is it so difficult for you Jim?
(Rhetorical question. Everyone knows why you can't do it. Ha ha ha.)

Re Yougov.
"YouGov is an international Internet-based market research firm, headquartered in the UK, with operations in Europe, North America, the Middle East and Asia-Pacific. YouGov was founded in the UK in May 2000 by Stephan Shakespeare and Nadhim Zahawi. In April 2005, YouGov became a public company listed on the Alternative Investment Market of the London Stock Exchange."

It is used by governments and is probably the best known and most reliable polling group.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:30 AM

Grrr. Peeing down here AGAIN. You'll cop it later, Dave!

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:28 AM

Well boobs is even indulging in alt-truth apropos of that exceptionally fine bird, the ostrich now! They NEVER hide their heads in the sand (a 2000-year-old lie now being perpetuated by the cabal - typical! Of course, they think that if you wait long enough, a lie becomes the truth!), they are aggressive when attacked, they are the fastest two-legged animal on earth and they can kill with a single kick! Hey, pack members, we should cordially accept the accolade of being dubbed an ostrichocracy! I LOVE it!! ❤️

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 07:08 AM

It is decidedly spring like outside and even making Bradford look good :-) Daughters are now ensconced in their new digs in Haworth. A quick drive over the tops, through the odd little village of Goose Eye and down the humorously named Goose Eye Brow sees us in Haworth, one of the prettiest villages you could hope to see. And now with free parking :-) Visited the apothecaries shop where Bramwell Bronte used to buy his drugs last weekend. They wouldn't sell me any though. Looking forward to walking over there, not much more than 6 miles but some very steep bits, then visiting a pub or two before getting the steam train back to Keighley.

Cheers

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: bobad
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 06:36 AM

"Ostrichocracy", as coined by Al, is an apt descriptor of the pack.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 05:34 AM

That's a lot of fried eggs to eat at one sitting, Raggytash. Hope you took the fybogel at the same time...

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 05:26 AM

"YouGov"
Run by a right-wing conservative blogger and a millionaire right-wing Conservative company director who was found guilty of expense fiddles in Parliament
Can you not come up with anything better than the opinions of rightists who have a vested interest in LABOUR STAYING IN THE HANDS OF THE RIGHT
I admire Stephen Hawiking greatly, but I wouldn't vote for him
"Start with the nastiest and most blatant lie Jim."
I don't lie Keith -as you have proven over and over again by denyinbg something you have said
You said it - you have denied it and then gone on to defend your sick theory
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 05:25 AM

Actually my personal best for fried eggs was 550 in one hour.

Long time ago, about 1975.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 05:24 AM

Ahah, I see that our two favourite right-wing dogs are back in full flow gnawing at their well-gnawed, nay, thoroughly splintered bones! I see that Teribus, who's, always denied being a Thatcherite, is at it again defending her obnoxious anti-worker policies this time. She oversaw a huge hike in unemployment (having used that infamous poster showing a dole queue in order to get elected, a trick not lost on Farage) then, on ideological grounds, shut down British industry, devastated whole communities, dishonestly stuck hundreds of thousands of unemployed people on to incapacity benefit to make the unemployment figures look better and liberated the banks and City from regulation. Cor, that worked well didn't it! And had she been around today, Teribus, she'd have given you a damn good handbagging had you suggested to her that leaving the EU was a "good thing!" And, Teribus, I'll be bound if Jim doesn't enjoy cuisinary delights as much as the next person. He probably isn't referring to the output of a greasy guy in a ship's galley churning out reconstituted powdered egg/yellow peril! But there I go making baseless assumptions! I LOVE it! Still, same old same old, eh? You and Keith with your abject politics? Who needs it! Onward and upward, say I!

Raggytash, I spell it soffritto because most of me cookery is Italian when I'm straying away from Sunday roasts and bangers and mash. I think it's sofrito in Spanish and mirepoix in French. They're all variable feasts as far as I know, depending on the dish. I have a golden rule, that garlic never goes in there. Bacon only if the recipe calls for it. When I make tomato sauce it's the other way round. Nearly always garlic, never onions and I can rarely resist at least a touch of chilli.

Must give you my recipe for salmorejo some time. In the summer, mebbe!

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 05:16 AM

Ah so you fried eggs in the Navy did you Raggy - must have been fun for you - but it was one of life's great joys that I never experienced.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:53 AM

I'm not bad mouthing Labour Miss, it was some big boys, not me Miss.

You posted it professor therefore YOU are responsible.

I refer you to my post of the 6th

From: Raggytash - PM
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 12:17 PM

"Please miss it wasn't me, that big boy said it.
You ****ing posted it on this site therefore you are responsible for it.
Gods teeth is really is like listening to a spoilt brat!!"

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:50 AM

I worked in catering until the age of 25. As soon as I had passed the various City & Guilds a few years previously I realised it was a job for dead beats and no-hopers ........... I got out and went about improving my education, eventually studying at college in Oxford.

A bit better than frying eggs in the Navy.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:46 AM

Jim,

"If I have lied, quote one!"
Where to start Keith -

Start with the nastiest and most blatant lie Jim.
Or just any lie at random.
If you are not lying, instead of claiming just quote!

Huff Post today,

"Stephen Hawking Calls Jeremy Corbyn A 'Disaster' For Labour Party
'I think he should step down for the sake of the party.'"

International Business Times today,

"Labour under Corbyn: only 35% of party members only 35% of party members think he can win next election.
But polling from YouGov and Election Data shows Corbyn is still popular among Labour members."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/stephen-hawking-jeremy-corbyn_uk_58be6a75e4b09ab537d65856

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:39 AM

Should read "implant theory" of course
"Substantive enough for you?"
Of course not, but it obviously is for you rabid righters
If an accusation is made it should be examined, as was 'antisemitism'
None has been substantiated in either case - all that has is that Labour is divided into right and left factions and the former are throwing every dirty trick in the book at the latter - including accusations originating from a foreign power (didn't Trump get help from abroad too).
So far your little Klan gathering has refused to respond to the fact that a year ago this month the Tories were accused of Islamophobia - they have done sweet fuck all about those accusations, yet you stamp on a party that has taken all accusations seriously
Now which one is the honest, principled party.... let me see!!!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:35 AM

"It wasn't a term I used years ago when I took my C&G's in Catering." - Raggy

Does Jim know about you dabbling in "Catering" Raggy - If memory serves me correctly he has a bit of a downer on people involved in "Catering".

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:29 AM

Among Baroness Royall's recommendations:

""The Executive of the OULC, and other Labour Clubs, should examine the culture of their Club and take action to ensure that all those who wish to participate in meetings feel that there is a safe space in order to discuss and debate without discrimination."

"The Executive of the OULC, and all Labour Clubs, should have a clear line of reporting for incidents of antisemitism and other forms of racism, discrimination and harassment. This should include the ability of individual students to report incidents directly to the Executive Director of Governance of the Labour Party."

Substantive enough for you?

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:29 AM

"If I have lied, quote one!"
Where to start Keith - from denying your "iml" teoy -blaming it on non existent experts to putting up out-of-context quotes.....
You are now incapable of distinguishing true from fiction
You haven't stopped "badmouthing" labour - from fictional claims of antisemitism and refusing to describe them
Blaming the Jews for a 'pact of silence'
Three or four threads ofr "badmouthing" to date
Tehe only truth you appear not to b ashamed of is that you voted Labour wehen it was headed by a war criminal
"None came from me"
You distorted what was happening and refused even to descuss what was actually being said
LABOUR HAS AT NO TIME SUGGESTED THAT THERE IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM OF ANTISEMITISM IN THE PARTY - THEY TREATED THE ACCUSATIONS SERIOUSLY - INVESTIGATED - NONE WAS FOUND - THEY POINTED OUT THAT ANTISEMITISM WAS NO MORE A PROBLEM THAN WITH ANY OTHER PARTY - END OF STORY
YOU CONTINUE TO CLAIM THAT LABOUR HAS ADMITTED THAT THERE IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM AFTER ALL THIS - AND YOU ARE NOT BADMOUTHING - GIVE IS A ***** BREAK
Finished feeding your trollism Keith - you are a disturbed, dishonest, obsessed individual.
Life really is too short and, as much as you would like it otherwise, it is not about you.
Back under your bridge
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 04:17 AM

You say you are not, but you clearly are afraid to discuss the current problems facing Labour.
Or else you have nothing to say, in which case no change there!

Jim,
Dio not call me a liar when you have lied throughout this and the Labour Party threads

If I have lied, quote one!
You always make claims about what I have said, but never supply the quotes because you are just lying.

Here are your recent lies about me again,

"I am not badmouthing Labour, "
Yes you are Keith

If that is not a lie, then find a quote!

the false accusations of Antisemitism and misogyny - it all came from you.

False or not, THEY ALL CAME FROM WITHIN LABOUR!
None came from me.
Again, if you are not lying, quote me!

As a right-winger, you have no interest in a putting right what has gone wrong in British politics

Untrue again! I am an ex-Labour voter.

Even your Mathew Turner quote (deliberately unlinked)

I said it was in today's Indie.
If that was not enough you could just google some text.
Nothing was "out of context. You lie again!

Here is the link which proves you a liar,
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-plp-left-wing-mandatory-reselection-a7613466.html

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 03:51 AM

I stand corrected Steve, I mis-remembered Sofrito which is I believe onion, garlic and tomato.

It wasn't a term I used years ago when I took my C&G's in Catering. The terminology we used was exclusively French. What you refer to as Soffritto was to me a Mirepoix

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 03:23 AM

"Well not really Carroll anti-Semitism is racism "
And specifying your evidence is a part of the British justice system, apart from in your 1984 world
Feckin' Klanners - who'd have 'em?
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Teribus
Date: 07 Mar 17 - 02:23 AM

1979 - "There were a fair number of strikes, not excessively so" - MGOH - the truth:

1: "22 January 1979 was the biggest individual day of strike action since the General Strike of 1926, and many workers stayed out indefinitely afterwards"

2: With the succession of strikes having been called and then won, many groups of workers began to take unofficial action – often without the consent or support of the union leaderships. Ambulance drivers began to take strike action in mid-January, and in parts of the country (London, West Midlands, Cardiff, Glasgow and the west of Scotland) their action included refusing to attend 999 emergency calls. In these areas, the Army was drafted in to provide a skeleton service. Ancillary hospital staff also went on strike. On 30 January, the Secretary of State for Social Services David Ennals announced that 1,100 of 2,300 NHS hospitals were only treating emergencies, that practically no ambulance service was operating normally, and that the ancillary health service workers were deciding which cases merited treatment. The media reported with scorn that cancer patients were being prevented from getting essential treatment.

Sorry Kevin, what services did you say were better?

3: In total in 1979, 29,474,000 working days were lost in industrial disputes, compared with 9,306,000 in 1978.

Hyped up Kevin?

As for Thatcher? - By 1983 changes made to trade union laws (most notably the regulation that unions had to hold a ballot among members before calling strikes) resulted in the number of strikes in the UK falling to their lowest level for 30 years. The General Election called in 1983 the Tories won by a landslide - wonder why Kevin, if things had been so peachy under Labour before?

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 09:02 PM

And if Callaghan had only gone to the country in the autumn of 1978.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 08:44 PM

the country was going to hell in high gear

While that might be how Teribus remembers 1979, it's not how I do. They were pretty good times, on the whole. There were a fair number of strikes, not excessively so, and the deficit that was hyped up as terrible was a fraction of what we live with today. And public services were vastly better.

Margaret Thatcher getting elected - well that could fairly be described as the country going to hell in a handcart. Or in a handbag.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 08:07 PM

I gave up up-chucking decades ago, Dave. I hope you're not supping Yorkshire beer...

Carrots and celery go into loads of things in our house, chilli, cottage pie, all ragus, you name it. I like 'em as a veg, cut into batons and steamed with chopped sweetheart cabbage, then lashed with either butter or gravy. The trimmings and tough stalks go into the stock pot. I always scoff the celery heart with the inner stalks myself. Mrs Steve lets me. And for reasons I can't understand, I'm the only person in my family who lusts after the parson's nose, by far the best morsel on any roast chicken. It's the pope's nose on a turkey.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 07:48 PM

The royal we, of course! And we are fixing it! Every time you come out with your pompous, arrogant nonsense and Keith comes out with his dismal anti-Labour crusade we reserve the right to either ignore you or ridicule you! Just like you do with us! Then we talk flowers, cookery, weather or scenery! This place needs to lighten up, and you and Keith and bobad, all four of you, 😂 need to GET LIVES! It's for your own good! High blood pressure at your age? Tut tut tut!

And I cannot be a pack member alongside a man who makes soffritto sans carrots! He'll be telling me next to use onions and garlic in the same dish! Arrrgh! Probably a closet Man U supporter!!

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Teribus
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 07:29 PM

As to the "pack" thing chaps - any of you prepared to explain this:

Subject: RE: What Good Is Mudcat?
From: Steve Shaw - PM
Date: 04 Mar 17 - 06:40 PM

Who needs mods! We will fix it, Raggytash! See Labour thread!

Who's the "WE"??

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Teribus
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 07:25 PM

Jim Carroll - 06 Mar 17 - 02:15 PM

"Have we finished with the Antisemitism Teribus?"

Well not really Carroll anti-Semitism is racism according to Labour's NEC, Baroness Royall and newly created Baroness Chakrabarti.

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 07:13 PM

Whenever you throw up there is carrots in it whether you have eaten them or not.

According to Mrs Harding's kid that is...

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 06:47 PM

Ye gods, carrots in soffritto are a sine qua non! 🥕🥕🥕🥕🥕❗️❗️❗️

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Raggytash
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 06:40 PM

Carrots! Soffrito?

No no no

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 06:28 PM

Damned fine marmalade you make there, Raggytash. Mrs Steve made a new batch a few weeks ago. We are in soup season this end. I have some very good ham stock and will be making a large batch of Italian-style soup made with grains and pulses, starting with a soffritto of carrots, onions, celery and pancetta. I might go berserk and chuck in a chilli, or maybe a bit of 'njuda paste...

Subject: RE: BS: uk by-elections
From: Raggytash
Date: 06 Mar 17 - 06:03 PM

Raised some more funds for the Rescue Boat today with my Marmalade!

All good stuff.