BS: A cure for deafness

Subject: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 03:44 PM

There are 15,000 hair cells per ear called progenitor cells. These cells send frequency specific signals to our brain. In the intestine we have a regenerative tissue that is the most regenerative. cell based therapy is complex but if we put the 2000 time magnified regenerative medicine in the cochlea we grow new hearing hair cells.
There is a
frequency clinic , a company is now up and running.
This year they will begin out patient treatment.

The research was done in women's and Brigham hospital in boston.

I was in the infancy of the cochlear implant engineering so I am very excited about this.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 03:58 PM

At least that's what I heard.
I haven't googled yet.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Ed T
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 04:37 PM

Better yet, positive side effect, stimulates head hair growth.

Hopefully, no negative side effects, like bushy eyebrows.
:)

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Jack Campin
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 05:03 PM

They're putting intestinal tissue in your ears?

Can we look forward to the invention of ears that fart?

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 06:07 PM

I've had to give up playing in our pub sessions because of high-frequency hearing loss. The sessions were my whole focus when it came to playing the harmonica. In my heart of hearts I know that there's no going back. I still play well enough but I'm losing a good few tunes. I could play with the ladies instead, as one non-PC orthopaedic consultant once advised me, but I've got a bad back too!

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 06:44 PM

After half an hour my back always hurt.

The concentrated regenerative factor found in the intestine is injected at a focal point in the cochlea. The cornea and gums are the next most regenerative tissues.

I have enough hairs in my ears already but I could use the out patient treatment for my left ear due to a repetitive percussive George Baily injury.

When you hear a pure frequency suddenly sound loud and slowly fade, that is a hearing hair cell dying (until now) forever.

The entire science of regeneration is fascinating. On TV I saw a man regrow a finger from the last knuckle with a bio matrix scaffolding being applied over time. Then there are stem cells...

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 06:54 PM

here is a link but I first heard it on Science Friday npr today.

http://www.hearingreview.com/2015/06/researcher-develops-new-method-of-cell-regeneration-in-inner-ear/

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 07:22 PM

I wish there was a way to regenerate the damage suffered by my copper beech tree -- 'wind fractures' are twisting round the trunk, heading down to the roots, deep scars in the bark -- and sadly after 150 years it is no longer safe.
It is the most beautiful copper beech in this area and has been part of my life since I came here in 1969. I am devastated at the impending loss -- don't think they'll even allow one more cycle of leaf growth then Autumn nuts -- - so sad, it will just be a memory.
Poor tree.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 07:29 PM

As I need to use two hearing aids I feel free to joke about the affliction
Did you know that Beethoven was so deaf, he thought he was a painter?
As a youth, I was told about the Liverpool hearing aid - you hang a wire over your ear and everybody shouts.
Tasteless, I know, but it helps you cope with a difficult situation - especially if your main interest is music
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 07:56 PM

Gallus, I hope your tree is not like Grandfather's clock.

I only wear one hearing aid but without it I hear what I am thinking instead of what was said, with hilarious results.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 07:57 PM

This is good news - wonder what the deaf community thinks, though. In the US they tend to be anti-hearing stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 08:27 PM

I know of the "purists" you speak of. To each their own but they should NEVER decide for a child.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 08:45 PM

I also have to wear two hearing aids. I find it both amazing and slightly distressing that people who know I'm hard of hearing will adjust appropriately for about half a minute then revert to type, cutting me out of the conversation. I'm thinking of wearing a big badge that says SPEAK UP!

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 09:06 PM

If you have taken 12 aspirin a day over time your hearing will be damaged.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 09:25 PM

The last aspirin I took was about thirty years ago or more.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Amos
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 10:07 PM

Would be nice if this could also regenerate lost lung and brain cells. New lease on life!!

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: leeneia
Date: 24 Feb 17 - 11:06 PM

Thanks for the info, Donuel. I would like to regain lost hearing, and just as much, I would like to lose the ringing in my head that comes after the hearing loss.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: EBarnacle
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 12:28 AM

I have been living with severe tinnitus since 1980. I also have major loss in my right ear and some in the left ear. I would be thrilled to hear well again.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 03:52 AM

"The last aspirin I took was about thirty years ago or more."
An aspirin (held between the knees) is the most efficient form of contraception for a woman
Not a lot of people know that!
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 04:42 AM

A lady getting on in years went into hospital to be delivered of her eighth child.
The doctor said to her, "You really need to take your health and age into account Mrs Jones, you are getting far too old to have children".
She replied, "I know doctor, but it's all down to my poor hearing".
"How do you mean?", he asked.
"Well, when we go to bed at night my husband has the habit of saying, ""shall we go to sleep, or what?"" - I always reply, ""what?""
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 06:58 AM

Seriously
Deafness runs through my father's side of my family - in my lifetime, my father and several uncles and my grandfather.
My grandfather dies when I was in my late teens and I was fascinated to watch my father cope with conversations with him, not by raising his voice, but by hardening the tone by slightly tightening the throat.
It's a technique I have found useful down the years
Jim Carroll

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Thompson
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 10:19 AM

Yeah, my parents had a neighbour, a lovely guy but he spoke with that kind of hardness that would cut through you. My mother told me it was because his mother had been quite deaf - the whole family spoke like that.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 04:24 PM

Tinnitus

You can mentally turn it down and forget it'
This phenomenon is just as real for people who dwell upon it and magnify the noise.
I know drugs exist to help but I have no experience with them.
So turn it down or off
however it can return when reminded of it. NPR did a story on it and blasted the frequencies associated with the ringing, it all came back and took a good month to get rid of it. Now just reading about it has made it return.

Picture a volume knob that takes about a hundred turns to diminish the ringing until manageable. Repeat as needed.

Explosions can be a common cause but so can concert speakers.
Avoid 100 decibels and do not overcompensate with other volume knobs
Take headphones to the movies - do not pug them in, they are for protection only.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 04:38 PM

Some aspirin is a protection against colon cancer. 8% less incidence with aspirin isn't much but it is significant.

Rather than have elective surgery to tighten Eyelids I would go for ear shots in a heart beat.   To Turn Off the radio all I have to do is roll onto my left side but I would rather have equal hearing.

Now I need to find out about insurance coverage.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 25 Feb 17 - 05:00 PM

I've had severe tinnitus for thirty years. I've conquered it. Not got rid of it. It's on the back burner. I have one life and I'm not letting tinnitus wreck it. I don't need alternative noises or my radio on all night. I won't go to tinnitus support groups. If I think enough about it, I have it badly. That's the psychological bit. The practical bit, not for everybody, is that hearing aids that replace high frequency loss will reduce tinnitus. If you've lost high frequencies, your brain attempts to replace them with tinnitus noises. Hearing aids make that process redundant and your tinnitus is greatly muted. In 2012 I was sent to an audiologist after I'd complained that my tinnitus was drowning out my hearing. No such thing. I had hearing loss, which I hadn't realised at all, and I walked out of that consultation wearing hearing aids. I've never looked back, though replacing hearing with hearing aids can never be as good as having beautiful natural hearing. But if you have tinnitus you should definitely see an audiologist. My hearing aids are free and are near-invisible.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 06:00 AM

Interesting reading in this thread and it makes me wonder.

So when I have a pure tone sound suddenly in one ear it is a hair cell dying off. That happens to me once every couple of years.

Ringing in the "head" rather than the ears - is that actual tinnitus or does tinnitus feel like it is coming from the ears, or is that something else? I've had very high frequency sound, pink noise, in my head all my life, gets louder when I am ill.

I did have my hearing tested a few years ago and was found to have a "notch" in my hearing range, probably caused by being too close to a cymbal regularly at gigs.

Do some people or even most people have actual silence when there is no noise around?

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 07:03 AM

Mine is a loud, constant high-pitched noise in my head, mostly right-sided but not completely so. 24/7/365. My hearing aids reduce the intensity (unscientific remark coming up) by about two-thirds. The effect seems to last for a while when I take them out.

Subject: RE: BS: A cure for deafness
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Feb 17 - 10:20 AM

I locate the sense of noise from the ears. I can make it seem inter cranial but that is something I choose not to do. Suggestion may guide nearly all brain abilities. Relief is relief.

William Shatner is also concerned by tinnitus.