Obit: Vin Garbutt (1947-2017)

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (1947-2017)
From: JHW
Date: 16 Mar 21 - 03:46 PM

Lovely song and Vin's voice easy to imagine singing it again.

Subject: ADD: TROUBLES OF ERIN - Vin Garbutt
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Mar 21 - 06:11 PM

This song needs a home.

Thread #18819   Message #3319293
Posted By: Nick
08-Mar-12 - 06:45 AM
Thread Name: Peace in Ireland: A Song Challenge
Subject: RE: Peace in Ireland: A Song Challenge

Surprised that one of my favourite songs isn't here - Troubles of Erin by Vin Garbutt

I went to Ireland (north and south) for the first time last year and enjoyed singing it there

TROUBLES OF ERIN - Vin Garbutt

1. Oh, remember when civil rights marchers
were battered with clubs to the ground,
and the very first squaddie to lay down his body
and part with his soul for the crown

May the troubles of Erin be over
May the bubble of peace be preserved
May the white dove inspire the children of Ireland
Peace is the least they deserve

2 And remember that cold Bloody Sunday,
when troops opened fire on the crowd,
and the people of Derry again had to bury
their loved ones, and pay for the shroud.

3 And the tragedy of Enniskillen,
when a bomb broke the heart of the town,
and that elderly man, who held out his hand,
to the killer who cut his girl down.

4 And the boys in the bar room at Poyntz Pass,
good friends who could see no divide.
A cold heinous crime cut them down in their prime;
their blood was as one where they died.

5 Oh, the prisons are filled with their number,
the angry, the anguished, the shamed;
but the wire must come down in each county and town
for the ghosts of the past to be laid.

6 So let's pray for the day of forgiveness,
when the weeping and wailing will cease,
and may love reconcile all of Erin's green isle,
may the living and dead rest in peace.

https://myspace.com/vin.garbutt/music/song/the-troubles-of-erin-74787158-82518786

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,CJB - Folkweave
Date: 21 Jun 17 - 05:11 AM

Here's a session with Vin Garbutt hosted by Toni Arthur ...

Folkweave_1976_-_Disc_4_-_Vin_Garbutt

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,A wandering minstrel
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 04:21 PM

Haven't been here in an age but just read Vin,s obit in the Guardian. Very sad to hear of the passing of this fine singer and master whistler. I'm raising a glass and wishing him as he so often did his audience "All the best!"

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 03:56 PM

I am sorry to be so late coming to this thread. I cannot add to the compliments expressed above. Suffice it to say that he was a legend. I have added his name to the "In Memoriam" thread. Rest in peace Vin.

Peter

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: JHW
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 07:00 AM

Will buy a Grauniad.
RIP Vin was on R4 'Last Word' but didn't do him justice.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,addison10
Date: 20 Jun 17 - 06:51 AM

The Guardian obituary is in the print edition of the paper today, Tuesday.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Capo da Monty
Date: 19 Jun 17 - 09:12 AM

Could you confirm which channel /radio station please?
CdM

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,CJB - trib. prog.
Date: 19 Jun 17 - 07:24 AM

BBC trib. programme tonight

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08tglj9

Starts at 21:30

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Jun 17 - 08:29 AM

A lovely tune, for a lovely song - by a lovely man.

Here's a youtube of Vin singing a goodbye song, beautifully. We may or might never all meet here again.
And he tags a chorus on at the end from another song. Amazing man.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: JHW
Date: 18 Jun 17 - 04:38 AM

While the taking of communion was in progress the organist played the melody of Valley of Tees.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 18 Jun 17 - 03:35 AM

Vin was featured on the BBC radio4 program "Last word", about 21 minutes in, with Mike Harding providing the obit.

Robin

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 Jun 17 - 05:50 PM

Here are some pictures of the funeral

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 16 Jun 17 - 06:04 PM

A magnificent send off.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,henryp
Date: 14 Jun 17 - 05:46 AM

Independent Obit

Vin claimed to be very popular in Borneo, where he was apparently known as the Wild Man of Middlesbrough.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 13 Jun 17 - 12:50 PM

Obituary in the Guardian

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Mick Tems (lacking cookies)
Date: 13 Jun 17 - 09:42 AM

So sorry - it's 12pm, NOT 2pm.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Mick Tems (lacking cookies)
Date: 13 Jun 17 - 07:59 AM

I just heard the sad news and I am shattered. Vin was a beacon of brilliant artistry; throughout all these years, he fired my imagination and inspired me. I booked Vin at Llantrisant Folk Club on a number of occasions; the last time Olly and I saw him was at the Tredegar House Folk Festival Sunday afternoon concert last year, when he greeted us like old friends. He had a special view on the quality of life, and his philosophy rubbed off on everyone. Sincere condolences to Pat and his family, who have organised Vin's funeral in Middlesbrough Cathedral on Friday at 2pm - let's hope it's a full house for Vin's final gig...

Subject: Obit: Vin Garbutt - funeral and a poem
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Jun 17 - 08:30 PM

From the Middlesbourough Gazette Website

- Friends and admirers of folk music legend Vin Garbutt will be welcomed "with open arms" to his funeral.

Vin's family has announced his funeral will be at Middlesbrough Cathedral, Coulby Newham , on Friday at noon - and anyone whose life has been touched by Vin "either through his music, his friendship or his family" is invited.

And from Facebook "All of you who wish to pay your respects are welcome to join us at the cathedral on Friday. We would like to celebrate his life the way he lived it, with open arms.

"Following the service Vin will be laid to rest at Eston Cemetery , then a wake to celebrate his life.

The message for those attending the private wake is: "Bring your instruments and your voices!!"

And here is a poem about Vin written by a Friend, Keith Hancock - "The hardest obituary I have ever had to write"

Vin Garbutt - Colossus with a heart of gold

I've penned a few one-liners, I wrote a few good songs,
I've met a few good people and some that did me wrong
But once-a-while there comes a smile that holds you in its grasp,
That shakes you to your boots and forces you to ask

If you are lucky, once in life, you'll meet this kind of man
The type of guy that made me ask exactly who I am
I met that man so long ago, when we were young and daft
We laughed and laughed oh how we laughed, we laughed and laughed and laughed

Some beliefs were miles apart and yet we never fought
Just recognised our differences in answers that we sought
But values bound and stayed with us; will be forgotten never
Like family and love of life and songs we'll sing forever

That voice, those words, that cutting wit, the messages prevail
The fun, absurd, the joy of it, the devil in the detail
The stumblings and the mumblings, as big as any song,
Even tuning his guitar would pull the audience along

So generous of spirit, an open hearted guy
and when I met his family I instantly knew why
He shared his house his home his food, his everything, his kin
but before I stayed the night I had to put the windows in *

Farewell my friend I'm broken now, but heal I must, and will
Forget you, Vin I never could, and though your heart lies still
It beats within the ones you've touched, and they are not a few
But thousands all around the world; they're better because of you.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 09 Jun 17 - 04:12 PM

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: McGrath of Harlow - PM
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 07:12 AM

His introductions were amazing. He'd have us in paroxysms of laughter for minutes, and somehow it didn't really matter if half of us couldn't make out what he was talking about. And then he'd break our hearts with a song that cut to the quick.

You got that right, Kevin.

I still remember , with a chuckle, the last time we had Vin at the Edinburgh Folk Club.

We had an amazing young fiddle/guitar duo to kick off the night, and they were great ... sensational playing ... reels played at the speed of light .

So Vin comes on and says ..."Well I have a slight problem ...I was going to do all these tunes myself. "

The audience erupted ...

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Pat Cooksey.
Date: 09 Jun 17 - 03:35 PM

A friend since Redcar 1973, great talent in writing, singing, and superb live, many of my friends who are not musicians but knew Vin over the years are saddened at his passing, a true one off.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 09:13 PM

I loved Vin and I love Billy. This polarisation is bloody stupid.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,gozzer without his cookie
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 12:59 PM

I agree with Morris-ey, Vin should be judged, as I feel certain he would have judged himself, on what he achieved. His humour and his songs both made people think, but not in a "in your face" sort of way. Instead, you left his gigs comfortably pondering on subtle points he had made through his clever observations and the poigniancy of his songs. You left his gig feeling warm in his warmth, yet more aware of injustices within the world.
His personable style was a powerful way to get his messages over and I also feel that some of that has rubbed off on others from a newer generation, such as Sean Cooney of The Young 'Uns who often takes on similar subject matter.

RIP Vin. We will remember you with the same warmth and remember what you were saying.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 12:54 PM

Re Jones and Carthy...just use your ears!
And, I am angry that Connolly is a household name while Vin's passing hardly gets a mention in the mainstream media,

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Morris-ey
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 11:37 AM

Carthy and Jones "methodically created their singing style".

What evidence of that do you have?

I would not like this thread to be diverted from Vin. I do not, and I am sure that Vin did not, judge himself against the success of others.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 10:18 AM

Really! Both known for observational humour. Both perform folk music,
It's just that Vin was so much more talented but Parkinson didn't "discover" him.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 09:20 AM

Not sure how appropriate it is to compare Vin and Billy that way.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 08 Jun 17 - 05:25 AM

Vin was in my top ten favourite artists across all the music genres.
What a guy!
And, I believe he was one of the great singers.
He sounded totally natural unlike, for example, Martin Carthy and Nic Jones who seem to have methodically created their singing style.

Vic could have been a big star. He had everything to make him an iconic performer ( think Billy Connolly, but much more talented).
Indeed, to those who loved him, and his music, he is/was an amazing talent.
God, I'll miss him.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GMGough
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 03:58 PM

with reference to the post by Frug, Vin played on "Richard Digance
& Friends" on 13 Nov 1982, 8th Feb 1981, a Sunday in November 1981,
4th Feb 1980, 6th July 1980, and it is the July 1980 show that he
shared with Martin Simpson.

Lovely performances indeed. There may have been other broadcasts
at Capital Radio of course.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 10:04 AM

A sad loss indeed. I haven't seen Vin since the early 80s but well remember the night we asked him to present the proceeds of a charity raffle to a lady from the local Riding for the Disabled group. "How much have you made?" He asked. I think it was around £150. "Make it up to £200 and knock it off my fee" he said.

When he turned up on stage, he had pinched an ice bucket from the bar and proceeded to pass it round the audience harangueing them with the words "We don't want coins, just notes!" We more than doubled the donation just because of Vin.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Hrothgar
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 08:48 AM

Had him in concert here in Brisbane in 1982. Magnificent concert, and a pleasure to meet such a lovely man.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: billybob
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 08:10 AM

Lost count of the times I have seen Vin, from the 1970's at Farningham Couch House Club in Kent, Headcorn where he came as a guest artist many times, later at Kitty's club in Thorpe le Soken, The Walton on Naze Festival and last year at the Electric Palace in Harwich. Vin was always the perfect guest for a club or festival organiser,a wonderful performer, a brilliant weaver of stories, he could introduce a song with side splitting stories and then reduce you to tears with a heart breaking song.Then after a performance was happy to share stories well into the wee hours.There is no one like him, the world is a sadder place today but we should rejoice that we have wonderful memories and recordings to treasure. Sending all my love to Pat and her family xxxx
Wendy

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 08:05 AM

Here's a song of his that fits, not one of the best known. From a performance at Harrogate Social Club back in 1996 that someone recorded and put in YouTube. I hope that lots of slips of his less known songs will turn up now. There must be many people who recorded him on the sly.

One thing with Vin is that he put as much into singing in a little club room with a handful of people as he did in a big auditorreum.

Who needs a Nobel prize?

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: melodeonboy
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 07:22 AM

An exceptional performer and a lovely man.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 07:12 AM

Sad news. It's coming for all of us, but I'd hoped he'd be with us for many years yet, and I'd hoped I'd get to hear him and meet him a few more times, and that he'd still be here after I've gone.

No one else has a voice like that, or the way with words or with an audience. And I can't think of anyone with the courage to challenge the assumptions of his audience as honestly and directly. And he paid a big price for that with his career.

His introductions were amazing. He'd have us in paroxysms of laughter for minutes, and somehow it didn't really matter if half of us couldn't make out what he was talking about. And then he'd break our hearts with a song that cut to the quick.

I'm off to listen again to him. I see Spotify has a good set of albums, so I don't need to hunt down the ones I've lent.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 06:52 AM

Vin looked fragile when I saw him at Helmsley Arts Centre earlier this year but he was still absolutely amazing. I suppose many people like myself thought the operation would be successful and that we would have many more years enjoying his music—such sad news and a huge loss.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 06:22 AM

RIP Vin....not seen him live for years, but a couple of performances he did in Leicester when I was at uni there have remained with me always as being amongst the most entertaining live gigs I've ever attended.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 05:40 AM

RIP VG. Your memory will live on in many minds and hearts.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Johnny J
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 04:49 AM

Sad news.

One of the nicest guys you could meet in the business. He even bought me a pint once. ;-)

His banter between songs was legendary but there was always a very serious side to his performance too. Great, well crafted songs, even the more controversial ones. Sadly, we'll not see his likes again but he'll never be forgotten.

Condolences to Pat, family, and all his many friends.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,David Nuttall, Wakefield
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 04:44 AM

I was greatly saddened to hear of Vin's passing and I offer my sincere condolences to his family and so many friends. He was a wonderful singer , whistle player and story - teller with a great sense of fun, sincerity , warmth and humour. He was a very special man who was so very kind and talented and he will be missed by so many.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Jun 17 - 03:16 AM

I was privileged to see him a number of times including the (in)famous concert at Fylde when a bunch of people staged a walk out in protest at some of his songs. My most enduring memories have always been his passion about everything he did and his humour. How he could switch from the tragic to the hilarious was, as some have said, a wonderful thing.

Last time I saw him was about 3 years ago I think at the Village Hall in Lothersdale village, a tiny place close to us. I can't remember half of it but I know I went home with my eyes stinging with tears of both types. Played the album I bought there last night and it evoked the same reaction.

DtG

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 08:33 PM

I remember him playing with a heavy cold (he milked it to death with a fake bout of coming-the-old-soldier). He warned the people in the front row that he was going to be playing the greens....

Another time he broke a guitar string. He entrusted the repair to our mate Ian, who he'd known for years. In the meantime he played the whistle and bantered. When he got the guitar back from Ian he gazed down at it ruefully, saying "Tsk. Typical Ian. He's put the thickest string in the middle..."

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 07:45 PM

Yes, sad news indeed! I saw him live several times over the years, but the performance that really sticks in my memory is when he played at Selkirk for the last ever "Both Sides the Tweed Festival" (ca 2005 0r 2006?) He was then only recently out of hospital after various medical calamities, and a near-death experience, but his description of events had me convulsing with laughter. RIP Vin!

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 07:30 PM

He was a great friend of the Tree Inn folk club in Stratton, Bude, and we were fortunate to see him there a number of times and generally roll on the floor laughing every time. His anti-abortion song (I only ever remember the one) didn't sit that well with his rollicking humour and amazing ability to hold the audience in the palm of his hand, but, well, he wanted to sing it, he sang it and he swiftly moved on. That'll do me. His whistle-playing was imbued with just as much humour as his banter, but was idiosyncratically-brilliant, a classic case of art concealing art. He was grand!

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,Frug
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 06:03 PM

Sadly missed Vin. You were indeed a caution. Met with you numerous times on your trips through the midlands. An outrageous dinner in London at a turkish restaurant with a few others after an appearance on capitol radio ..... was Martin Simpson there too? You were a funny and talented man and whilst we could disagree on a number of things you were always a fabulous human being.

Frank

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 06:02 PM

RIP, a sad day.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 05:50 PM

Although I had seen Vin many times and admired him, my fondest recollection of him was at a funeral off a mutual friend when he was in the pew behind me and singing with passion I shed many tears then as I have today listening to his life's work.
RIP Vin a great man

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 04:52 PM

...and unforgvable from a teacher of English to get "too" confused with "to": I blame the BenRiach 20-year-old single malt.

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: Helen
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 04:50 PM

I also only ever had the pleasure of hearing Vin live one time - at a pub in Newcastle NSW Australia in about 1980.

It was an unforgettable experience. I can still now, in my mind's eye and ear, put myself back into that dark little pub room, with the small spotlight on Vin standing at one end of the room and the whole roomful of people going from tears of sadness, tears of joy and uncontrollable tears of laughter as he progressed through his repertoire. And his tin whistle playing was a joy to hear.

What a performer, what a great human being!

My condolences to his family and friends,

Helen

Subject: RE: Obit: Vin Garbutt (20 Nov 1947 – 6 Jun 2017)
From: GUEST,weerover
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 04:49 PM

Wonderful singer and tin whistle player that I only know from many recordings. Soon there'll be nobody left that I can be bothered listening too. RIP old son.