BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,

Subject: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 28 Jun 17 - 05:07 PM

Back from alaska, caught 48 salmon and one king limited out each day.. Holy fun.. Will share picture later

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 28 Jun 17 - 05:13 PM

Bears are really bad this year, eight people mauled and two killed. The fatal ones were black bears of all things. We were armed to the teeth back in nowhere bush

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: robomatic
Date: 28 Jun 17 - 05:15 PM

shooting them only makes them angry. Wear little bells.

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: gillymor
Date: 28 Jun 17 - 05:47 PM

How do you identify bear scat?

It has bells in it and smells like pepper spray.


It sounds like you had a big time, Dan.

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: meself
Date: 28 Jun 17 - 05:52 PM

I was just going to say - 'little bells' as in 'dinner bells'?

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 28 Jun 17 - 07:21 PM

Sometimes it has fishing hats and a pole in it also

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: leeneia
Date: 29 Jun 17 - 11:03 AM

Congratulations, Dan. What do you do with the salmon?

How was the scenery?

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 29 Jun 17 - 11:37 AM

Absolutely beautiful, I had bald eagles that I was feeding the fish cleaning to. My daughter and grand babies love salmon. I brought just four back.. Huge.. For my friend and my Mrs as I don't care for fish.. I will try to post some pictures today sometime. I sent gnu some photos on email

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Jun 17 - 09:27 PM

Bears are cuddly and cute and you should just pet the cubs because the mother won't care even if you feed the cubs.

And momma. Momma will want some of you as well.

Good fishing! Were you on the Kenai?

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 29 Jun 17 - 09:55 PM

Yup and Russian River and Seward

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 12:06 AM

If you want to offload any freshly frozen salmon, I'll pay the freight. . .

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 03:03 AM

Good for you, Dan! Sounds like you had a great time.

As for bears being particularly bad this year, I kind of doubt it. Circumstances were different in each case.

In Juneau black bears are ubiquitous most years; only the most persistent get shot or hauled off. I think we try not to have a repeat of the season we had some years back. That year 14 black bears lost their lives.

We have brown bears here too but I've never seen one downtown.

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 09:09 AM

A black bear had to be euthanized at Grand Teton National Park this week. It had become fearless of humans and even prowled around the cabins and poked its snout into an occupied tent (it was a "clean" camp).

Rangers hate having to do that.

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 01:28 PM

Ebbie, you live there so you know more than I. The last weekend one 16 year old kid was killed by eagle River and one newlywed girl was killed both by black bear outside of anchorage. Eight others mauled. I have fished near grizzly bears and never had issues as we both had plenty of fish to occupy our time.. My entire life I have ran across probably hundreds of black bear and always they ran when I yell at them except the time I crossed path with a cub and mom treed me for three hours.. I usually have a large handgun and shotgun with rifle slugs but neverhhad to use it.. The newlywed pepper sprayed the bear, it ran off. As they tried to leave it circled back and got her. Mauled her friend.. Sad for sure.. Wish she was armed. You do need both. Pepper Spray works but when you are out then what..

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 01:42 PM

Part of the problem was some fools scheduled a marathon with hundreds of people running through the heart of the eagle River area with our protection. The 16 year old kid was autistic running with his mom and dad when he was taken

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 01:43 PM

With out protection

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 01:51 PM

Ebbie, I will be heading back up fairly soon to your area moose hunting with my son in law to help teach him.- newbe- Maybe we can buy you dinner

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 03:27 PM

Did you talk to any fish and throw them back in?

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 03:46 PM

Lol usually do but my kids and family love to eat them so they are in their freezers

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: Senoufou
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 03:48 PM

I couldn't find any pleasure in shooting/killing moose, bears or salmon just for sport. Sorry.

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 04:06 PM

No everything is eaten, me I love moose best meat ever . I will bring home a bunch if I get one . All fish are eaten by my family except for me... Mine are in her freezer. I kill nothing for sport. Don't know where you get that idea. I brought home just a few pieces for my wife as she loves sockeye salmon. I don't eat fish

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 04:11 PM

Anyone that just trophy hunts is committing a crime . It's called want and waste. I am hunting moose as my kid wants to eat it as I do.. Besides I love to be out.. I am retired i now can play

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 04:14 PM

Our moose hunt ends when one of us gets one as it will supply all the meat you could need

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 04:26 PM

Only time I will ever keep a fish is if someone wants to eat it. And great lake salmon is not good. Wild alaska salmon, try buying a fish 37 bucks a felet. My kid and her family eat it all winter like most alaskans

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 05:22 PM

What are those Alaskan sockeye salmon fillets that I buy in Marks and Sparks? Are yours caught in rivers but mine in the ocean? I buy that sometimes and it's pretty good. I also buy Alaskan tinned which makes a very good butty but which is obviously a very different, er, kettle of fish. The best salmon by a country mile I ever tasted was a river fish that I'd helped to smuggle to to Murphy's Bar at Brandon in Ireland in a plain brown wrapper. I can safely admit to that crime now as it took place precisely forty years ago. I think.

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 05:40 PM

Ach, Eliza! I never meant to start any trouble!! Sorry, Olddude.
I said what I said in my previous post, and it appears I started this disagreement. I'm truly sorry.

Olddude has many a thread at Mudcat about fishing. I am guilty of teasing Olddude because in one thread he remarked that after catching one fish, he talked to it -- "oh, you're a fine fat fish" or words to that effect -- before throwing it back.

Goodness me. I ought to have kept my big mouth shut.
Apologies all around.

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 30 Jun 17 - 06:19 PM

As human beings are omnivores, and as every animal ever caught before agriculture came along was caught by hunting, hunting and fishing for food are honourable traditions. In fact, they're more virtuous than animal husbandry in that the animals caught are truly wild and free until the moment they're caught. We can try hard (more commonly, not hard enough), but we can't anywhere near match that in our agricultural systems or fish farms. I abhor hunting or fishing just for sport. Intellectually and emotionally, people who do that haven't developed beyond the toddler stage of mindlessly stamping on spiders and beetles in the garden or shooting at birds with a toy catapult. I do acknowledge that catching animals for food can be quite "sporting." I hope the line isn't too difficult to draw.

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 01 Jul 17 - 01:24 AM

You are absolutely correct steve. And a moose is like the best cow you ever had amazing. Last
one I got we had meat for a year. I gave the trophy head to a native as they make stew from it. Gave them the hide as they make waterproof clothes. Gave them 200 lbs of meat.. And still had meat for a year after. I have never taken anything from nature that wasn't used

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jul 17 - 10:55 AM

Thanks for the pics, Dan. Nice fish! Good luck on the moose hunt. Tight lines an' straight shootin', eh!

Next time, do it like a real man!

Subject: RE: BS: Alaska sockeye salmon,
From: olddude
Date: 01 Jul 17 - 11:42 AM

Lol perfect