BS: Strange Dreams

Subject: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 05 Jul 17 - 09:23 AM

I don't know why (I'm not on any medication and I don't drink!) but lately I've been having the most silly and bizarre dreams.

Last night, I was conducting a choir consisting of a row of crocodiles, standing upright with their tails embedded in the sand and their white bellies facing me. They were singing the Hallelujah Chorus quite beautifully.

Then I moved on to a situation where I was driving alone through the centre of Norwich and slowly realised I was sitting in the front passenger seat. I calmly decided it would be better if I was actually behind the wheel, and slid across.

I wonder if anyone else is going mad like me? Perhaps it's the season for weird dreams...

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Raggytash
Date: 05 Jul 17 - 09:31 AM

Do you pick mushrooms ?

:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Jul 17 - 10:59 AM

Bet it was quite a snappy performance of the Hallelujah Chorus.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 05 Jul 17 - 01:49 PM

Yes Steve. The audience was probably moved to crocodile tears.
My husband swears he never dreams. I sometimes wake up laughing my head off, and he merely tuts and turns over.
I think I have more fun asleep than in real life.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 05 Jul 17 - 02:07 PM

The Singing Postman sings a lovely song about his Horn-Rimmed Glasses. The last line says he even wears them in bed, as he likes to be able to see the people he might meet when in a dream!

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 07:30 AM

Your first dream should be animated with music.
The second scary dream I have had but I was in the backseat and could only steer.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 08:47 AM

Well, last night it was the Giant Jelly. Honestly, I was making a huge jelly for the Village Fete. I mean, about the size of a chest of drawers. Strawberry flavour, with pieces of fruit inside. All went well until I realised it wouldn't fit in our car, and I'd have to carry it down the road in my arms. It started to oscillate and wobble all over the place. Suddenly the line of swans with their cygnets appeared right in front of me. (These swans do actually exist, and walk down the village street every day) They tripped me up and the jelly slid off the gigantic plate with a loud splat, all over the swans. I woke up with the horror of it all, and lay there sweating. Husband peered at me, tutted and went back to sleep. He's only jealous since he never dreams.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 08:52 AM

I dreamed a dream the other night.

Something about lowlands...

I'll get my coat

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 09:17 AM

Cygnets in strawberry Jell-o! Yum! Perhaps some whipped cream or creme fraiche on top?

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 09:32 AM

The best interpreter of your dreams is you, but finding the daytime trigger might be complex.

1)crocodiles, ........... Hallelujah Chorus quite beautifully - are your singing days over? (a bit crock?) but you are happy to listen, even control the singers (see below!).

2) front passenger seat..... and slid across. - it could be you have been letting someone take control and decided to take hold of the situation. Something pretty inconsequential otherwise you would have reported fear.

About a year ago I was having uncomfortable dreams and perhaps I now can relate where they were coming from, after the situation resolved. It takes time sometimes to make the connection.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 09:34 AM

were the swans singing to you??





Cygnet your tune


I'll get my jelly mould.............

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 10:00 AM

Maybe it was a swan song?

Wait for me, I'm right behind you.

:D tG

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Stu
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 10:13 AM

I sketch mine or jot them down and I'm going to make a film of them. Bostin.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 12:06 PM

It would seem to be a common theme of 'not quite being in control of things'. The poor crocodiles couldn't escape due to their tails in the sand, I needed to get behind the wheel of the car, and the Giant Jelly was obviously out of control.

But I'm not really one for navel-gazing, I just find it quite funny. However I'd love to know why I'm dreaming like this lately. I haven't changed my diet at all.

My mother used to drive my father batty with her weird dreams. Being Irish, she always tried to find a portent. He merely shrugged and asked her to dream the winner of the Grand National!

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: leeneia
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 12:09 PM

The crocodile dream sounds like fun. Odd thing - I dreamed this morning that I was playing the Hallelujah Chorus in an orchestra, using a wooden flute. Maybe the Hallelujah Chorus is circling the globe in subsonic form.

Are you drinking any alcohol? A glass of wine with dinner, a martini before? A small amount of alcohol can really affect some people.

How about ambient noise? Are you hearing roofers or road workers (etc) whose noise in interpreted by your brain as something else?

Most vivid dreams come as we are about to wake up. You have my sympathy over the dream that made you wake up sweating. I have those dreams once in a while, and they are no fun.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 12:56 PM

How funny leeneia that you too were involved in the Hallelujah Chorus. It must, as you say, be doing the rounds!

No, we don't drink alcohol at all. Years ago I used to have a glass of real ale, but not now. I do drink lots of milk, but then I always have.
And our village is as silent as the grave all night, until about 7am.
(I usually get up around 6am)
The only noise at this time of year from dawn onwards is the honking of ducks/geese etc flying overhead to and from the lakes and river which surround the village. I suppose they may be honking in Handel. And the wood pigeons cooing.

My husband doesn't snore, so it's not that either. It's all very odd.

My doc sister says everyone dreams, but some folk don't remember them.
I wonder what my husband is secretly up to in his? :)

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 02:41 PM

was there an element of envy - Or did I mean jelly see?



I'm going, I'm going..............

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 02:49 PM

Hahahahaaa! There's some really funny folk on Mudcat. I've been laughing my socks off, heh heh!

I hope I don't dream anything weird tonight. I don't want it to become a habit.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Raggytash
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 03:14 PM

Ah Senoufou ............. you have not responded to my suggestion of wild mushrooms ..............

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 03:23 PM

Hee hee Raggytash! You've guessed my little secret haven't you? I wander the woods and fields at night and pick those magic mushrooms, then eat the lot and dream away to my heart's content.
Must obtain some for Mr Senoufou. Perhaps he'd have some dreams himself!

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Raggytash
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 04:08 PM

Sweet dreams Senoufou, I hope you have many, many more years of them.

And your good man !

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 06 Jul 17 - 04:58 PM

How very kind Raggytash, Thank you!

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Jul 17 - 02:20 AM

I too have fantastical dreams and I love 'em. I get such a kick out of seeing what one's brain comes up with.

One thing has changed in my dreams in recent years. It used to be that when I floored the brake in a car I was driving, the vehicle would slow down but I could never get it to stop completely. These days I can stop.

Hmmmm. That one isn't too hard to figure out. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Jul 17 - 03:32 AM

The book that turned me on to the power of dreams was "Creative Dreaming" by Dr Patricia Garfield in the late 1970s - she earned her PhD on the subject. When I discussed this with my Aunt she said her husband used to lie in bed saying "Now what shall I dream about tonight - and requested subject". My comment was "was he a man contented with life" and she concurred. There is a connection there.

I started using them to be creative but most of the dreams I recorded (5 a night) didn't reveal anything useful. As it took 2 hours a day to write up my dreams from scribbled notes I gave up.

A few years later I realised I had predicted my divorce in them. It was not obvious to me at the time, and it didn't predict her antics! Such is the complexity of analysis.

Nowadays I ask my brain simpler things as I drop off to sleep. Like wanting to wake up at a certain time and to remind myself of a task next day. That works. Dreams that result are just as incomprehensible.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Jul 17 - 04:05 AM

Many of my dreams can be traced from some daft TV programme I've been watching. (Although not those I've described here)

I'd say I was very contented in my life, but of course I have concerns and worries as does everyone.

I've been thinking about the driving one. I'm a bit of a spoilt princess as I love to be driven around by my husband in his bigger, more comfortable car (and he's very happy to do this) But my sister points out I ought to get my own little Fiesta out of our garage more often and drive it, in order to keep my hand in.

The Giant Jelly one was perhaps a reaction to the fact that I can't do as much as I used to for our village. I'd be the one who'd make tons of food for various events, trifles, scones, sausage rolls, quiches, sponge cakes etc. And now the younger generation has stepped up, which is giving us oldies a nice rest. Maybe I feel rather guilty?

Wouldn't it be excellent if one could get into bed and 'order' one's dreams? ("I'd like a tropical travel one, followed by a liaison with Brian Cox please.")

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Jul 17 - 06:25 AM

Wouldn't it be excellent if one could get into bed and 'order' one's dreams?

The whole point is: it is your brain, your priorities, your exposure. If you want it, space will be made. But you still have to organise and order your life in the coming days so that is pretty high priority.

If you ask yourself as you drop off to sleep. And keep trying it. Then tell us how effective it gets. 😴

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Jul 17 - 06:37 AM

I'll keep you posted! Nothing to report from last night thank goodness.
I think I'll make a long list of 'dreams I'd like', a sort of menu. I always live in hope.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Jul 17 - 07:11 AM

In my experience - only ask one question (or two if important) and keep repeating in your mind until you drop off. Don't get too multi-detailed

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 07 Jul 17 - 07:20 AM

TED.com talks: on the brain which includes Jeff Iliff: One more reason to get a good night's sleep

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: keberoxu
Date: 01 Sep 18 - 05:40 PM

It reassures me to know that I'm not the only one...

Recurring dreams weigh heavy on my mind of late.

Repeatedly, and this over months drawing out into years,
my dreams show me getting physically weak, to the point
of disability. I try to get on my feet,
and although I can move my torso and arms,
I can't get my legs under me,
and I can't pull up my core abdominal muscles enough to
get above my legs, if you see what I mean.

Something seems to be trying to tell me something.
In real life, my muscular strength isn't what it once was,
but I can get my feet under me and stand up. Not like the dreams.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 Sep 18 - 06:11 PM

That's sad keberoxu. Not much fun having dreams like that.

Since last year, I haven't had any particularly memorable dreams, with the exception of what I call Spider Nightmares, which I often get in the Autumn.

It's the spider season here at the moment, and the blooming things are getting into the house and displaying themselves on the walls and ceilings.
Husband has no phobia, and gently puts them back outside.

But having screamed the house down, when I finally go to bed, I have the same dream that a mahoosive spider is sitting on my pillow right next to my face. I spring off our bed like a gazelle and scream the house down yet again.
Poor husband wakes up in terror, then realises it's his blooming idiot wife at it again.
He's so understanding. If the positions were reversed I'd throw a massive strop. But he kindly fetches me a drink of water, calms me down and we finally get some sleep.

Sigh. I still haven't dreamt the winning Lottery number.
Or had an...er...assignation with either Brian Cox or Sir David Attenborough.
Life is so unfair isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 02 Sep 18 - 02:50 AM

winning Lottery number

That will take 6 dreams anyway. Write them down as you wake up - and PM me with them. I will do the rest.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 02 Sep 18 - 03:17 AM

Hee hee Mr Red. Not on your Nellie. The win would be mine, all mine!

I was thinking about 'dreams I'd like', and the following occurred to me:-

1) I'd get home from the supermarket and the entire house would be decorated to our taste with no mess to clear up.
(We really need to get the ceilings re-painted and the walls re-papered, doors glossed and so on, but it's such an upheaval)

2) I'd be on a beach in the little tiny red bikini I used to have as a young lass. My figure would be as it was then (thin) and my extremely long thick hair would still be in place. The warm sun would be shining and I'd have a nice tan. Husband would be there too of course, and in this dream he'd be able to swim.

3) All spiders throughout the world would have little cartoon faces and smile engagingly. They'd also be able to speak/sing and would have a nice little chat with me before I got into bed.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Jos
Date: 02 Sep 18 - 06:40 AM

Keberoxu
"I try to get on my feet, and although I can move my torso and arms, I can't get my legs under me, and I can't pull up my core abdominal muscles enough to get above my legs"

That sounds as if your subconscious is remembering what it was like to be about six months old. I used to have similar dreams where I tried to run but my legs wouldn't keep up with my body and I staggered or fell over, as if I was about eighteen months old.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 02 Sep 18 - 01:42 PM

This was a lucid nightmare - I knew I was in it but could not break free, waken up - - -! Happened after surgery a few weeks ago:

a reminiscence I would prefer never to have had                       
          CU SITH ('koo shee')                                       
I am sitting in Bernice gazing through a small deep-set window in the old farmhouse; my collie sits close by my side, watching, waiting….
The reflections on the waters of Loch Eck are stunning, a perfect mirror of the woods and hillside above the opposite shore.
New vegetation displays many shades of fresh greens, bathed in the Spring sunshine.
Then somehow the scene changes, segues to become …. the Castle Gardens?
It is still a bright sunny day, vibrant colours of sky, water, grass, trees – even the rock formations and the remaining walls of the castle sparkle in the sunlight.
My dog is now focused on the swooping of the seagulls, taking exception to their dives and turns ….

But then - dramatic and horrific changes.
Thunderclouds lour, blocking out sky and hills.
The waters of the Firth boil fiercely, lashing the shore.
Colours fade to dark, dull greys and blacks, no longer reflecting light but absorbing it.                                    
Rocks and crags crack and split, opening chasms deep into the bowels of the earth.
There’s a hellish smell, worse than death – not like the body of some wee creature gradually decomposing, but putrid, foetid, an over- whelming stink that clarts my senses, envelops my being.
It seems ancient, from aeons past, rising from the depths where I can see a maelstrom of bones, skulls, the writhing agonised remains of tortured desperate centuries-old souls.
Worse – now there are baying hounds, but like nothing from this earth – drawn to the horror like some mass of huge revolting bluebottles.
Straining to look through the window into the mirk I see that they are – or were until recently – pet dogs, transforming as I watch into slevvering hell-hounds, irrevocably lost …. and now my own collie is gone from beside me! I see her out there, but cannot reach her, she no longer hears me - a Cu Sith being drawn, sucked into the pack heading for the horrible, stinking morass---

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO………………………………………….

I am distraught, the sense of loss overwhelms me; my guts are churning, heaving,
I want to vomit from the smell, the sights. Tears of desolation pour from my eyes, I am trapped in this nightmare, cannot escape………..

Then thank fuck I awaken, return to reality, relief – but am unable to slough off the horror of what dominated my drugged sleep.

MORPHEOUS – you can keep your dreams, I never want that experience again!

It is now six weeks on and I still cannot erase the memory of what those three small post op. pills, blindly accepted from the nursing staff, did to me - terror, horror, helplessness, wracking grief.
Most of all I cannot forgive what - I believed - you did to my faithful companion, my beloved dog!

                                                            
                        ____________________________

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Sep 18 - 01:59 PM

Sorry you required surgery in the first place, Gallus Moll,
and more than sorry about the medication-induced nightmare.
I recall previous posts that have mentioned your dear collie.

Jos, my sincere and startled thank-you's
for a context of which I am ignorant,
since I have never studied child development.
And this is something valid and useful!
Will check this out with my former counselor
-- who changed professions, so can't consult ongoing,
but we are still friends so we have the occasional e-mail exchange.
Thanks again!

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 02 Sep 18 - 03:03 PM

Goodness me Gallus Moll, what a truly horrible experience for you to go through! I can well imagine how the feelings have stayed with you weeks later. So sorry, as keberoxu says, that you had to have an operation, and suffered this reaction to the pain-relief.

Here in East Anglia we have Black Shuck, a hellhound that people have purported to have seen. It portends Death and tragedy etc. I believe the Welsh have something similar too. I reckon this must be a Celtic/Gaelic concept.

I sincerely wish you good health and a calmer mind once these fearful images fade from your memory.
Eliza

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Gallus Moll
Date: 02 Sep 18 - 06:11 PM

Thanks Keberoxu and Senoufou - if I had realised they were going to administer morphine I'd have told them 'no'! Pretty sure I told them at pre-med that I had had reactions to some medications eg dispirin, codeine -- I really don't like taking any medication if I can avoid it! (have you ever given a pill to a cat? well, that's me -- canny swallow them! also I make the mistake of reading all the literature in the box- - and get put right off)
My hip replacement op went well (said the surgeon) - but the recovery had some hiccups, apart from the morphine reaction -- now 4 months on and getting better but more slowly than others I know!
As for the Cu Sith dream -- in Gaelic legend if you hear it three times -- well, either you've had it or in some versions if you manage to get to a secure place before it / they get you, you might survive- - not sure if dreaming about them counts? No idea why I had that dream, hadn't been reading about anything like that, watching scary movies - -- Hope I never have the experience again!

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: frogprince
Date: 02 Sep 18 - 09:46 PM

I'm gonna recycle a post from a thread seven years ago:

I've had my share of totally weird ones, but two stand out from all the rest. One was just about 50 years ago, with a series of scenes connected by a plot line in which some kind of disease that caused cannibalism appeared and spread rapidly. A real fun dream. I'm not sure which scene was more delightful, the one where the congregation at a child's funeral gathered around the body and started devouring it, or the next-to last scene with a few of us barreling through city streets at night in a city bus, the streets full of the crazed, some of whom were tearing each other apart while others tried to upset the bus and clawed at the windows with bloody fingers. Finally woke up sweat-soaked and a little sick.

The other dream was a short scene, way at the other end of the spectrum, approx 30 years ago. I was along the shore of a little creek at night, watching countless fireflies. That much was an absolutely realistic replay of a beautiful actual experience a few years before. Then a large, shimmering "soap" bubble appeared, floated down close to me, and popped. As it burst, quite naturally with a little moist sprinkle, a voice said "We love you".

Never had a really bad nightmare again.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: BobL
Date: 03 Sep 18 - 03:30 AM

I have a theory that this world and everything in it, including ourselves, are merely simulated entities in a vast Virtual Reality system. Now as any computer user knows, all data has to be backed up regularly to forestall possible disasters. This happens while we sleep - and is in fact the fundamental reason why we must sleep - and we experience it as dreams.

Furthermore, on our (virtual) deaths, the backed-up data from selected people will be downloaded into new Real World bodies, and the rest destroyed. Hence the beliefs in heaven and hell found throughout our world.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 03 Sep 18 - 03:59 AM

In that case BobL I reckon I need a re-programming, or maybe re-booting.
And my memory section needs attention too.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Jos
Date: 03 Sep 18 - 04:08 AM

Have any of you experienced mutual dreaming - having the same dream as the someone sleeping nearby?
When I was married it happened several times. I would wake up thinking about a powerful dream I had just had, only to have more or less the same dream recounted to me by the person lying next to me.
My mother refused to believe me until it happened to her when her sister was staying at her house.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 03 Sep 18 - 12:53 PM

I've never heard of that Jos. Most interesting.
My mother used to have the weirdest dreams, but my father swore, like my husband, that he never ever dreamt.

However, after I'd left home to go to Uni, I had a dream about my young sister, who was eleven at the time and still lived at home.
The dream was about a man with a vicious-looking black dog, lurking behind a hedge in the fields near our house. My sister and her friend Pauline were walking nearby and I had the most awful premonition of evil and danger, though nothing precise.

My father wrote me a letter a few days later and told me a chap had been arrested as he'd exposed himself to my sister and her friend in a field. He'd had a big black dog with him!

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Jos
Date: 03 Sep 18 - 01:50 PM

That's creepy, but at least it would have been possible to warn them.

The only time one of my dreams came true was in about 1968 when I dreamed I had a square halfpenny. Next day in my change I got a halfpenny with the edges damaged so that it looked roughly square. Not a particularly useful warning dream, that one, but I still remember it.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Sep 18 - 05:54 PM

In hospital, in bed, in pajamas. Dinnertime. I drank a bottle of laxative. Got on the commode next to the bed, which had no plumbing but was lined with a plastic bag. Explosive diarrhea, filling the bag, spattering some around the floor. I tied off the bag & took it to an adjoining room. Looked for a mop, but then the alarm light went on.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Sep 18 - 11:13 AM

So I'm dreaming I am giving my Russian Wolf Hound an appendectomy.
Every thing is going as well as expected when I discover I have run out of sutures. Mint flavored dental floss saves the day just when the anesthesia wears off. Hijinks ensue

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Mr Red
Date: 04 Sep 18 - 03:16 PM

if I had realised they were going to administer morphine

from what I read and hear, morphine mucks about with perceived time and even chronological sequence. No wonder you have had strange dreams.

when I dreamed I had a square halfpenny
not even enough, even in 1968, for a square meal........

I have run out of sutures. Mint flavored dental floss saves the day
sutures it is?

OK, I'll get my medi-gown.....

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Sep 18 - 01:15 PM

I dream I am in a clown car. Not only is it a tiny car, it has a tiny seat. It must have a hopped up engine because it races over rough terrain. And the driver's seat must be a booster, because it lifts me through the roof and I'm like forty feet up but I'm still controlling this little car way down there and I feel like I'm flyin'!

Where's the 'down' button?

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 07 Sep 18 - 01:29 PM

That sounds like a lot of fun robomatic!

I haven't dreamed anything much lately. Husband says I haven't been laughing in my sleep, so obviously not having any fun in my dreams.

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Sep 18 - 09:23 PM

There is such a thing as fun without laughing, but it's usually engaged in when awake!

Subject: RE: BS: Strange Dreams
From: Senoufou
Date: 08 Sep 18 - 04:21 AM

That seems to ring a faint bell robo. Somewhere in the dim past perhaps...? :)