BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Helen
Date: 24 Jul 17 - 01:46 PM

DMcG, regarding the Jezebels, it's a long time since I read the book and I'm very cautiously watching the series so I haven't seen the episode with the Jezebels in it. I just watched the Nolite Bastardes Te Carborundorum episode so I'm not even half way through the series.

Sorry to still be off topic.

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 24 Jul 17 - 05:03 PM

From: Helen - PM
Date: 21 Jul 17 - 06:33 PM

. . . and just cast a gay, disabled, female Muslim. I can just see the Dr running from aliens in a motorised wheelchair.
If tis happens I would be looking forwards to the new Doctor's first meeting with Davros

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Helen
Date: 25 Jul 17 - 07:35 AM

Yay, Nigel! Way to go! LOL

Maybe Davros could regenerate into the gay disabled wheelchair person. If the Master can change to Missy, and the Dr can change to Ms Dr, why not Davros as well? And K9 could regenerate into a cat.

The possibilities are endless, creating endless new plot possibilities. Look out world, here's another 50 years worth of Dr Who.

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 25 Jul 17 - 12:17 PM

Here's one for the scriptwriters to consider;

The Doctor and Master perish locked in climactic combat..

oh i don't know.. maybe they wrestle and topple off a bridge over a high surging waterfall.. or something even less original...

Then regenerate together as conjoined twins...[any permutation of race, gender, sexuality, disability, open to possibility..]

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Helen
Date: 25 Jul 17 - 03:36 PM

Conjoined twins, punkfolkrocker? Now that would make for interesting plots.

"Entreat me not to leave thee, or to return from following after thee: for whither thou goest, I will go; and where thou lodgest, I will lodge: thy people shall be my people, and thy God my God: Where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried: the Lord do so to me, and more also, if ought but death part thee and me." Ruth, 1:16

But, now that you mention it, climate change and environmental issues have never been part of the Dr Who plots, as far as I remember.

Helen

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Rob Naylor
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 09:00 AM

PFR: Then regenerate together as conjoined twins...

They'd have to be careful in the storylines to make sure the correct one was driving, when moving the plot from, say, UK to France!

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Mrrzy
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 09:43 AM

Best comment on the sexism: That's Dr. Who, not Nurse Who! From Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 10:28 AM

This very moment, it's the episode with the Vashta Nerada space-piranha-izing library visitors.

The conjoined twins thing wouldn't work, biologically speaking, and doesn't really sound interesting, unless it's the punch line of a joke. I think one of the regenerations should be as a petulant skate-boarding teen. This would drive parents everywhere nuts, so maybe not.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 11:29 AM

Jeri.. be careful how seriously you take all this..

you are in great peril of becoming a Whovian... 😜

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Helen
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 04:38 PM

Re Rob Naylor's driving situation, they could re-work the Gene Wilder/Richard Pryor driving scene in See No Evil, Hear No Evil if one twin was deaf and one was blind.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: SqueezeMe
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 03:45 AM

I wonder whether Jodie Whittaker will speak in that lovely West Country accent she used in Broadchurch, or revert to her native Tyke?

Of course, it may not be a speaking part. Intergalactic signing, anyone?

Just musing....

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 07:47 AM

Nothing wrong with 'Tyke'. After all in the first episode of the relaunch (Eccleston & Piper):
Rose: If you are an alien how come you sound like you're from the North?
The Doctor: Lots of planets have a North.

Cheers
Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 08:00 AM

There are almost no positive male role models on UK TV just now.
Could we not have left this one and just created a few more new female leading roles if that is what has to be done?

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 11:38 AM

Keith - that's a point maybe worth considering...

As kids in the 1960s we had The Man from Uncle, then shortly after, also The Girl From Uncle...

Two highly lucrative tie in toy ranges for the likes of me and my sister..

But as I'm now an old bloke nearly, I haven't a clue what the popular Kid's TV role models are like these days...???

Super heroes seem fairly evenly spread by gender...

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 01:40 PM

Not just kids' TV.
There are almost no good male role models on TV at all.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 01:46 PM

Keith - Thing is though.. from a dramatic perspective..
anti heroes are far more interesting and realistic than knights in shining white armor..

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 06:40 PM

I think there are probably a fair few good male role models in various TV series. I have not studied kids ones in depth but watching some of the stuff my grandsons have on when they visit I can see good in a lot of it. As to adult ones, well, do we really need role models at our age?

DtG

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: JennyO
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 07:25 PM

I have friends here in the UK who are very much against the idea of a woman as the Doctor, simply because she is a woman - but not because they are sexist. They actually aren't, but they say it will change the energy too much. I don't think I agree with them there.

We won't get to see Jodie Whittaker do her stuff until the Christmas Special, but I am open to any possibilities. Remembering that every time the Doctor regenerates, it brings a new energy, and I was often disappointed thinking we'd lose whichever one I was used to, and then surprised to find how quickly I got used to the new Doctor, often loving him even more than the last one.

Not so long ago I was very sceptical when I saw that Peter Capaldi was to be the next Doctor, having only been familiar with him as a very nasty Cardinal Richelieu in The Musketeers. On the very first of his episodes, I was so impressed that I instantly accepted him - he WAS the Doctor. He totally owned the role. It's called Good Acting. So if Miss Whittaker is as good an actor as I suspect she is, I would not be at all surprised to find I accept her very quickly as the new Doctor, and the new energy she brings.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Jeri
Date: 27 Jul 17 - 09:12 PM

Pfr, too late. I've been a Whovian since I started watching in 1979, although it's occasionally been hard to find it on American TV. There were some versions of the Doctor that I mostly missed, but every one of them between Baker and Eccleston was "meh".

My major concern about a female Doctor is whether they can make her eccentric enough. Writers, IMO, have problems with respectfully whacky female characters. I can't think of any, not that they don't exist, but I'm not familiar with them. They can be serious and smart, or goofy and dumb. I WANT them to prove me wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 28 Jul 17 - 04:10 AM

Kids need good role models.
All TV detectives are now female.
There are almost no males in primary schools now and few in secondary schools.
Boys have fallen behind girls in education in all subjects and in university entrance.
Suicide is the main cause of death in young men.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Jul 17 - 04:24 AM

My major concern about a female Doctor is whether they can make her eccentric enough. Writers, IMO, have problems with respectfully whacky female characters. I can't think of any, not that they don't exist, but I'm not familiar with them. They can be serious and smart, or goofy and dumb. I WANT them to prove me wrong.
The exception may be Abby in NCIS

Cheers
Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Jul 17 - 04:55 AM

Problem with my last post. But if you click on the "Cheers Nigel" it will take you to the intended page on Abby from NCIS. A suitable Wacky but Intelligent character.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Jul 17 - 10:13 AM

Good point, Nigel. Abby's a great character. (Fixed your link) She actually is a bit Whoish.

Subject: RE: BS: We have a Lady Doctor! [Dr. Who]
From: Helen
Date: 28 Jul 17 - 05:43 PM

Hey Jeri,

Have you ever seen Tamsin Greig in the Brit comedy called Black Books ?

"My major concern about a female Doctor is whether they can make her eccentric enough. Writers, IMO, have problems with respectfully whacky female characters. I can't think of any, not that they don't exist, but I'm not familiar with them. They can be serious and smart, or goofy and dumb. I WANT them to prove me wrong."

When the rumour was going around that a woman doctor was about to be spawned, I immediately thought of Tamsin Greig in that role in Black Books.

Keith A of Hertford, I'd add over-weening confidence in poor driving skills as another cause of young male deaths, or is that just the hoon culture in Oz? Do young males drive better in other countries?

Nigel, I agree about Abby. I'd place her equal with my choice of Tamsin Greig.

My absolute favourite pick for Ms Dr Who would be my favourite Oz comic actress and writer, Magda Szubanski

She started out as an actress and writer for a lot of scathingly funny review shows on Oz TV, and then went on to film roles in e.g. Babe, and the Dogwoman series (very funny, and a lot of similarities to Dr Who behaviour), and then more recently as Sharon in the original Oz Kath & Kim TV show. She can also do a mean Scottish accent because her mother is Scottish (see her character called
Wee Mary McGregor ), so she could give Peter Capaldi a run for his money on that.

Helen